On 28 October 2011 18:52, Marc Riddell <michaeldavid86(a)comcast.net> wrote:
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 4:10 PM, Marc Riddell
<michaeldavid86(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> I agree with you completely, Phil. ArbCom, as it presently is, is a
> disaster. And is a major obstacle to achieving a healthy, collaborative
and
> fair creative community. My questions are:
Who has the power to change
that?
> How would the process that could evaluate
ArbCom, and bring about
change,
> get started? I would be interested in
helping.
on 10/28/11 12:40 PM, Carcharoth at carcharothwp(a)googlemail.com wrote:
ArbCom has far less influence than people give it credit for. What you
are looking for is leadership, and that has to come from the community
(or a body elected for that purpose by the community), not a dispute
resolution body (which is what ArbCom is, or at least what it started
out as). What is needed is a body other than ArbCom to provide
leadership. That is what Wikipedia is lacking. There have been
attempts (by both ArbCom and the community) to institute such a body,
but the "community" tends to resist radical change, which is of course
part of the problem (though it is also a safety feature against too
radical changes).
The upcoming ArbCom elections might be a good time to air some of
these matters, but only if done in a well-thought out manner, by
someone with the time and motivation to see through a process that may
take months or years to come to a conclusion.
Carcharoth
I agree with you completely, Carcharoth, that "What is needed is a body
other than ArbCom to provide leadership". It is this lack of a formal,
structured full-oversight body this is the fatal flaw in the entire
Wikipedia Project. But to try and establish this body via ArbCom doesn't
register with me. I believe such a new concept such as this will require a
formal resolution, or whatever mechanism such additions or alterations to
the structure of the Project require.
Marc
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