[WikiEN-l] Fwd: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: binding desysop procedure on English Wikipedia

Hi Aron, Thanks for sharing your thoughts. However, I think that the more appropriate mailing list for this is WikiEN-l. I'm forwarding this thread there. Regarding your second point, I think that many admins are not selfish people and are often willing to criticize other admins, so I am not concerned that admins are participating in this discussion. I would be concerned if I felt that admins as a group are power hungry and are more interested in defending each other than in working for the best interests of the encyclopedia, but that is not my impression. I think that many admins are highly skilled, generous with their time, and willing to volunteer for thankless and sometimes personally risky activities. Those admins that cause problems are, sooner or later, usually in trouble with the Arbitration Committee. That is not to say that I'm opposed to a new desysop procedure, but I believe that most English Wikipedia admins are competent and act in good faith. Pine ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Pine ) ---------- Forwarded message --------- From: Aron Manning &lt;aronmanning5(a)gmail.com&gt; Date: Sat, Oct 19, 2019 at 10:06 AM Subject: [Wikimedia-l] RfC: binding desysop procedure on English Wikipedia To: Wikimedia Mailing List &lt;wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Requests_for_comment/2019_community… So far about 60% of the commenters are administrators, which role comes with an inherent and unavoidable conflict-of-interest. Although the discussion is quite neutral, administrators are a minor part of the community, thus hopefully editors will join the discussion as well, and share their views and suggestions on the topic. Aron _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: Wikimedia-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:wikimedia-l-request@lists.wikimedia.org?subject=unsubscribe>