In a message dated 2/15/2009 7:36:36 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,
scream(a)datascreamer.com writes:
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WJhonson(a)aol.com wrote:
Indefinite blocks (until the editor bows to random
authority) for
"incivility" are overboard.
Esp. in light of the fact that the vast majority of admins take no time
to
determine the cause of the incivility.
Many cases of "incivility" are in-my-mind completely justified.
Indefinite blocks do nothing but inflame the situation.
Will Johnson
In a message dated 2/15/2009 11:50:24 A.M. Pacific Standard Time,
scream(a)datascreamer.com writes:
No, I don't think so. Short 3RR
blocks for incivility would be punitive
since the logic would be "For incivility you get a 24H block as
punishment". I would posit that a warning to the editor would suffice,
then based on the asshattedness of the editor, a preventative block.
Unblock as soon as they assert that they will not repeat the offense.
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Jon
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Jon my response was to the idea that a person would be blocked until they
agreed that "they will not repeat the offense".
If it's a situation was a person was provoked and I'm sure all of us who've
been around a while have situations where people are provoked, then they may
feel like Wikipedia is just a mob gang out to "get" them. I really don't
like the idea of creating more long-term vandals over minor offenses.
In the case where a person is a problematic, repeat offender, has been
warned several times by uninvolved admins, than a block "until you stop being so
offensive" might be in order.
In the case where a person is mostly productive *until that fateful day*
where they decide to add a comma to the "Palestinian rights" article (or
whatever) and get drawn into a heated battle where they are provoked to the point of
exploding, I wouldn't advocate a project position like this. In conflict
situations almost anything can be taken as "incivil" and creating a policy like
this would only be used to beat up on opponents. In my view.
Will Johnson
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