On Nov 29, 2007 4:04 PM, Anthony <wikimail(a)inbox.org> wrote:
On Nov 29, 2007 3:55 PM, jayjg <jayjg99(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 29, 2007 3:51 PM, Anthony
<wikimail(a)inbox.org> wrote:
On Nov 29, 2007 3:45 PM, jayjg
<jayjg99(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On Nov 29, 2007 3:17 PM, Relata Refero
<refero.relata(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On Nov 29, 2007 4:14 PM, jayjg <jayjg99(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> > And this after it has been stated unequivocally that no such thing
> > happened. Alec has also been front and center in making other
> > outrageous claims and demands; for example, he seems to believe that
> > if a Wikipedia administrator mentions anything about Wikipedia in a
> > private e-mail, then it is his right to see it (see diff provided
> > above).
>
> Not 'anything about Wikipedia'. If an adminstrator saw that laughable
> evidence and believed it was grounds for a block, Alec would want to
> know why. So would a lot of people.
You don't seem to be reading what Alec actually said. He said "Yeah,
if someone's an administrator discussing Wikipedia business, the 100%
_are_ the business of Arbcom and the community."
"Wikipedia business" <> "anything about Wikipedia"
What, in your mind, would the difference be?
Wikipedia business is the business of Wikipedia. In the context of
"an administrator discussing Wikipedia business", it'd be a discussion
of who to block, or what pages to protect, or something like that.
"Anything about Wikipedia" would include that and anything else
related to Wikipedia. If I email my friend and say "Wikipedia is the
greatest site ever", that'd be "about Wikipedia", but it wouldn't
be
"Wikipedia business".
What about if an admin e-mailed another Wikipedian and said "Account X
is new but looks suspiciously familiar with Wikipedia process"; would
the Wikipedia community have a *right* to see that e-mail? How about
if a Wikipedia admin e-mailed another Wikipedian and said "Look at
page X, it looks like some POV-warriors have really gone to work on
it". That's also public property?
Mind you, your own post facto re-interpretation of Alec's demands are
kind of moot, considering he was insisting he needed to see the "full
content of the emails" sent to both lists. That, in fact, was the
context in which he insisted that every single e-mail was "Wikipedia
business".