From: Phil Sandifer <sandifer(a)sbcglobal.net>
Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: Notice to an Admin
Date: Mon, 30 May 2005 13:04:53 -0400
So your assertion is that there's a large nexus of users with identical
editing patterns all clustered in the same geographical area, on the same
ISP, and they all happen to be getting each other's IPs when their cable
modems disconnect?
Because I think it's the ice weasels, personally.
-Snowspinner
On May 30, 2005, at 12:54 PM, Cranston Snord wrote:
I sent a response to this to the en-l mailing list
yesterday, but it has
not appeared. I am attempting to send it again.
If I do not see it this time, I will assume that one of you has taken the
step of removing me from the list for rightfully bringing my complaints.
This would be expected from the power-mad admins who seem to be in
control.
On to David Gerard's laughable assertions:
As for same pages of interest, no, we don't, as my edits will attest:
second, even if we did, Wikipedia has policy regarding that, which I have
already pointed out.
As for the IP, David Gerard insists that Roadrunner keeps users on the
same IP "for months": actually, my record time for keeping an IP has been
two weeks. Your IP only stays static if your cable modem stays online,
and thanks to large-scale construction in my area, we are regularly hit
with brownouts and blackouts, not to mention cable service downtimes.
If a "Cranston Snerd" has edited Wikipedia, I'd like to see a reference.
Since I only edit with one account (named Enviroknot), that is obviously
a fake account set up by someone who is reading this list and attempting
to discredit me.
I also want Mel Etitis, his puppet Yuber, and whichever else of you have
been defacing my user page to stop it. I have already warned Etitis and
Yuber repeatedly.
-Enviroknot
From: David Gerard
<fun(a)thingy.apana.org.au>
Reply-To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)Wikipedia.org>
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Re: Notice to an Admin
Date: Sun, 29 May 2005 22:19:27 +1000
David Gerard (fun(a)thingy.apana.org.au) [050529 22:16]:
ElKabong matches with KaintheScion firstly on
writing style and pages
of
interest, and secondly they both edited
[[Talk:George W. Bush]] in
the same
hour from the same IP. (I sent a list of the
edits and their times to
him
and he emailed back saying I must have made that
up.) KaintheScion
and
Enviroknot have the same pages of interest and
edit from the same IP,
starting as the IP and then as Enviroknot the moment I blocked Kain
as a
sockpuppet of ElKabong (who I unblocked - the
problem is abusing a
sockpuppet to pretend to be two people, not running a second account
per
se). Which is a DSL theoretically on DHCP, but I
know Roadrunner
often
keeps people on the same IP for ages. Certainly
this one.
Oh - and as well as Enviroknot's home IP matching Kain's, "Cranston
Snerd"
has edited (and signed "Cranston Snerd") from the same two IPs favoured
by
ElKabong. Thus completing the circle.
- d.
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