Zero <megamanzero521(a)Yahoo.com> wrote: Zero wrote:
how are we as editors to know this..? As I do recall
in a previous
encounter concerning a lad I went to school with, he and I posessed
very different views on what a "spoiler" was.
As neutral editors, we also have a differing capacity on content is a
plot twist or what is considered the climax. It is only reasonable to
conclude this is what happens. This template simply smacks of what
intrepretation is left to the editor.
>But all sorts of interpretation is left to editors
-- what facts
>to present, how best to present them, in which order, etc.
>I'm sorry you don't like the spoiler
templates. But the simple
>fact is that most people *do*. We had a poll on this a little
>while back and the results were something like 7:1 in favor of
>keeping them. Many, many editors expressed the very strong
>opinion that spoiler warnings are "obviously" a good thing.
>I say this not to suggest that you're wrong for
having a contrary
>opinion (which is of course your and everyone's right) but to
>make the point that to most people it's reasonably obvious where
>a spoiler template ought to go, and what sorts of thing
>constitute spoilers worthy of protection.
>(Now, to be sure, I don't know if the people in
that poll were
>voting as editors or as readers. On the one hand we don't have
>any way of polling our readers per se, but on the other hand,
>since we're the free encyclopedia that anyone can edit, *every*
>reader is an editor, and vice versa.)
>Since there's a small but vocal minority which
is very strongly
>opposed to the spoiler tags, clearly what we need is some custom
>CSS magic which will turn them off for readers who think they're
>ugly or unprofessional-looking or who otherwise don't want to see
>them.
Poll..? I assume that's in reference to the template on its nomination to TFD
somewhat a time back. No, that's not liking it, its many new editors fooled into
thinking this has a purpose at the time of their arrival on the encyclopedia. A quick
check depicted many of these editors had not participated in wikipedia discussion, had
not amassed close of the thousand editting mark and had not a clue of what they were
talking about.
One editor noted "Are you crazy...? This template has been along for awhile
!" Chuck, the deletion nominator queried him on how that had any relevance to its
usefulness. Curiously, none of the editors in keep (even the experienced ones) could
rebute him and answer how the template assisted the encyclopedia, its value or even how
the template achieved its "goal" from the outset.
As I recall making a comment earlier on the wikipeida talkpage, none of the defensive
editors could answer ethier. "I'm sorry, but most people like them". I
don't paticularly concern myself too much in the practice of the matter on an
emotional level, but I am very inclined to question the relevance. As of my most recent
e-mail, I asked how the template assisted the encyclopedia or its goals or if there were
any edvidence of its informative capacity. The questions still haven't been
answered. -Zero
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