Any newbie who has created an article which doesnt
quite fit may face VFD, which is (IIRC an old
comparison) like going to a restaurant only to be
introduced to the trash cans.
But I've since come to understand that just like
everybody needs an asshole, every Wikipedia needs a
VFD. The problem is when Montezuma's kicks in, and the
wholesome nutrition is flushed out with the dross and
detritus. WP needs some kind of anti-Montezuma's type
remedy --which just has to work and doesnt have to be
of a particular brand (or color). ATS, its great to
see people expressing their distaste for the subject,
and support the notion that WP needs a new "exit
strategy" --or at least a better working one.
But it's worrisome that the grand mailing list ppl are
rather incapable, disorganized, and without leadership
to do anything about it --such that Ed's rage against
the machine seems to be something symbolic of a
greater frustration rel. process failures to enforce
consensus, and how consensus is too weak to change
systemic trends. On the one hand its validating: WP,
even if it is more wiki than encyclopedia, isnt bad.
On the other hand, its frustrating because things,
ideally, could be so much more ideal.
-SV
Ray (Eclect) wrote: "that Ed's horoic effort" - Was
this a clever mix of horror and heroic?
--- Alex Regh <Alex.Here(a)gmx.net> wrote:
Hi!
On Mon, 01 Aug 2005 19:03:00 -0400, Daniel P. B.
Smith wrote:
I suspect that very FEW newbies stumble across it.
Even if they do, I suspect that they are more likely
to stumble over the page
of a single article, not the fast mess VfD as such
is. And on single pages,
VfD doesn't necessarily look that bad.
Those newbies that start digging themselfs into
policy pages and formal ways
of resolving problems are probably the kind of
people who have seens lots of
crap before they ever came to WP.
So I do suspect that the impact of VfD on Newbies is
quite limited.
Alex
--
If you don't go over the top,
you can't see what's on the other side.
--- Jim Steinman ---
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www.alexsite.de
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