springs to
mind.
A million followers on Youtube, arguably one of the factors in making
Minecraft as popular as it is today, deleted time after time.
Michel Vuijlsteke
On 9 October 2011 01:11, WereSpielChequers <werespielchequers(a)gmail.com>wrote;wrote:
One good place to look would be talkpages deleted
per G8, especially
where
the article was deleted per A7.
Better still if you could get an extract of deleted talkpage edits by
editors with less than 100 edits.
Or if you don't have access to deleted edits, an extract of Wikipedia
space
edits in subpages of Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion by editors with
fewer
than 100 edits would find shed loads.
In my experience the most common argument against our notability concept
is
along the lines of "but he exists!". Which is more a failure to grasp the
concept of notability as opposed to having an alternative concept of it.
More meaningful ones are along the lines of Wikipedia not embracing the
Internet - our lack of regard for people with high youtube followings
does
seem perverse to some; And ones where notability is as yet uncertain such
as
new signings to major teams who haven't yet played for the team.
WereSpielChequers
On 8 October 2011 09:24, David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com> wrote:
2011/10/7 Johan Jönsson
<brevlistor(a)gmail.com>om>:
> do you remember any particular discussions about articles (on the
talk
> page, or AfD if enough newcomers found their
way there) on English
> Wikipedia where you could see that new editors/outsiders didn't agree
> with the concept of notability, or how notability is interpreted
among
> (most) Wikipedians? I know that I've
seen them, I just can't seem
> where to find them.
+1
These need collecting.
Deleting newcomers' hard work is one of our big PR problems. Even if,
after contemplation, we decide we were actually right to do so.
When someone wanders into the sausage factory and the very first thing
that happens is that they fall head-first into the meat grinder ...
this is an *unfortunate* circumstance.
- d.
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