Re: [WikiEN-l] Save a BLP

The first one I found was h Miranda July, which is not an unsourced BLP, and was not tagged as such. . Though tagged as needing additional references, it is rather well referenced as our articles go, and there is no question about notability. What it is, is a BLP that badly needs updating. The second one was Sandi Patty, a Grammy winner, which is also not an unsourced BLP, but one tagged as needing additional refs, and refs from 3rd party sources. It does in fact have at least two good 3rd party sources, though they happen to be listed as external links. The third one was Hilda Tchoboian, also tagged as needing additional references. unlike the first two, it seems to be somewhat politically controversial. It seems to have sources, but the more likely problem would appear to be borderline notability. The fourth one was Jonathan Holloway : Theatre Director and Playwright : 1955 – It was tagged as needing additional refs, but it has fairly good one. The apparent "problem" is inline citations, which many of us do not regard as a problem if the material is not controversial, as is the case here The 5th is Barnaby Joyce, an Australian senator, marked asneeding additional citations. It seems very well sourced to me, including inline citations, except for a section on personal life, probably dervived for an interview or his website, and not at all controversial. The 6h is Prentiss Taylor, which is not even a BLP. It has two good sources,though one is listed as an external reference. The article needs expansion from the sources already included. the 7th is Matraca Berg. The sources seem to support the article rather well. The 8th is Enzo Bianc. There is a real problem, but it is not sources: only the first paragraph of the long entry on this major politician from the Italian WP was used. The 9th is David Harvey (footballer). though there is no reason to doubt the material ,it is sourced only to a page of statistics. Some other source was no doubt used, but does need to be listed. I'd wonder a little about copyvio. the 10th is Jagiri Lal Sareen, an Indian politician, edited with apparent COI. It has no references, & contains a mixture of undoubted facts and a little unsourced POV opinion. Unlike the others, it was added only recently. It should have been followed up more energetically. There are many problems. Not all are of equal priority. If these ten are representative, there are many fewer really important one of this sort than people are sometimes saying. It is very easy to tag as needing additional references, whether or not it is actually the case. It is also very easy to tag and never follow up. It would also be almost as easy sometimes to add references, though this is rarely done. David Goodman, Ph.D, M.L.S. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG On Sun, Jan 24, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Magnus Manske <magnusmanske(a)googlemail.com> wrote: