That only works Thomas when editors have full awareness. That is,
other editors have to know what is happening *over here* to *this
other* editor. And they just don't. None of us have a full awareness
of the project. So acting harshly to one editor is not going to
address the behaviour of someone else because that someone else does
not see those actions. Nor do they see the reasoning behind them.
Even people who live in-project get mainly only a superficial view of a
lot of situations. I really don't see a civility problem today any
larger than one we had three years ago. Maybe there is some kind of
metric which exists like "number of civility templates slapped up" or
something, but I don't know it.
You don't stop terrorism by executing terrorists. We are always going
to have editors calling each other idiots. We already have an way to
deal with that in-project. We have templates and time-outs and so on.
I'm not seeing why there is a call for anything stronger than what we
already do.
Will
-----Original Message-----
From: larsen.thomas.h <larsen.thomas.h(a)gmail.com>
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Sent: Thu, 12 Feb 2009 3:48 pm
Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] How to raise the tone of the wiki
You're wrong. "Uncivil" is a vague term
and someone might just be
having a
bad day or two (or three). No need to react harshly.
Nobody should be
editing Wikipedia if they are having such a "bad day"
that they are unable to retain their composure and remain polite and
friendly. Harsher reactions to incivility would lead to people
thinking twice before posting inflammatory comments—surely, a good
thing. Some people might not like politeness and friendliness, of
course, and might leave the community, but that is also surely a good
thing.
—Thomas Larsen
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