Hey Thad,
an 'activity' or 'activities' property would seem a bit broad to be
me, and hard to properly define. Compared to the 'things to do'
results on the search engines you mention, this would be very hard to
replicate with a regular property on Wikidata. What is the criteria
for a 'popular thing to do'? Number of yearly visitors? How many
tourist guides include the attraction? And does this include
restaurants as well? Parks? Something like 'boating' is very different
from 'The Louvre'. I think this will be very much up for debate and
Wikidata is not a proper platform for those discussions.
Fortunately we already have two other solutions that i think are a
much better fit for the problems mentioned. You can already do a
SPARQL query to find all attractions for a certain place, and even
sort by criteria like number of visitors or sitelinks. And for more
exhaustive lists Wikivoyage is a great project, and that can also
connect to Wikidata (see
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Wikivoyage/Resources#Properties_for_…)
Kind regards,
-- Hay
On Fri, Dec 31, 2021 at 11:06 PM Thad Guidry <thadguidry(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi Community!
>
> We are currently in discussions about possibly introducing a new property that might
simply be called "activity" or "activities" to hold the value of a
popular "things to do" that you typically see in search results when looking
around tourist attractions, parks, etc.
>
> The risk is that of large lands, administrative territories, or country being abused,
but this could be mitigated by disallowing that new property on those broader kinds of
instances where it doesn't make sense. I.E. a proposed property would likely be much
more specific to things that typically do have activities as advertised or managed by
governments through various amenities or resources, such as "boating" because
the government maintains a "boat ramp" for public use, etc. And would not allow
something like Switzerland
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q39 = "activity":
"snow skiing" as an example.
>
> "activity" has a corollary with "amenity" which is different.
"swimming" an activity is not "swimming pool" an amenity.
>
> The discussion over this new property is likely to directly overlap with
OpenStreetMap and their properties and tags (some of which are enumerated), where they
have Tag:amenity=swimming pool (new tag is leisure:swimming pool) as an example. Some
activities are a sport, and others are not a sport.
>
> In
Schema.org, we already have
https://schema.org/TouristAttraction but there's
no property already made to hold "hasActivities" for example. (but we could in
the future if deemed useful) @Dan Brickley ?
>
> Also, a new property like "activity" or "has activities" would
align quite well to many search services such as Google, Bing, Yandex having similar
lookup services such as
https://www.google.com/search?q=activities+near+me as well as
Government services such as
https://www.recreation.gov like
https://www.recreation.gov/search?q=boating and several other European and international
lookup services.
>
> The initial discussion is here if you want to see some of the provenance and work
I've been doing:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata_talk:WikiProject_Protected_areas#Nat…
>
> Whew, too long, ok... Thoughts?
>
> Thad
>
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