Hoi,
There is no explicit link between the data and the lexicographic data. As
a consequence it will not be easy to make use of the existing labels for
automated translation servies. This has been an explicit architectural
decision..
For me it will be interesting to learn how these links will be realised
and how existing differences will be reconciled and how this will impact
services like translation services.
Thanks,
GerardM
On 18 June 2018 at 08:52, Info WorldUniversity <info@
worlduniversityandschool.org> wrote:
HI Irene, Wikibabel, Gerd, and Wikidatans,
How does Wikidata's new lexicographical project work with regard to
Swahili (since it is a Wikipedia / Wikidata language) and Google Translate
/ GNMT re your "Our approach leverages Google Translate
<https://cloud.google.com/translate/docs/> to make English Wikipedia
articles accessible to underserved communities" (re:
https://medium.com/@oirzak/wikibabel-equalizing-information-
access-on-a-budget-4038f750e90e)?
Will a Wikibabel team you help create add Swahili lexemes to the
lexicographical project -
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/
Wikidata:Lexicographical_data - and then Google GNMT - which is
end-to-end translation software ...
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/
-jwgtcgkgG2o/WDSBrwu9jeI/AAAAAAAABbM/2Eobq-N9_nYeAdeH-sB_
NZGbhyoSWgReACLcB/s1600/image01.gif (
https://ai.googleblog.com/201
6/11/zero-shot-translation-with-googles.html) - use this new Swahili
lexicographical data by processing this through its algorithms?
(WUaS seeks to facilitate machine translation in all 7097 living
languages, and by growing out of Google GNMT; WUaS donated itself for
co-development to Wikidata in 2015).
Cheers,
Scott
On Sun, Jun 17, 2018 at 10:28 PM, Gerard Meijssen <
gerard.meijssen(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Hoi,
I am giving a lot of attention to content that deals with Africa. At
that I also target the Swahili wikipedia [1] (I have not filled in all the
red links yet). At this moment I am adding information in Wikidata about
Tanzanian wards based on sw.wikipedia categories and templates.
Many of the African language Wikipedias are struggling. By making the
lists as complete as possible based on categories and lists, the
information becomes more useful and better, it can be and is used in the
same manner on multiple Wikipedias. At this moment zu yo en sw Wikipedia.
As the information is made available using Listeria lists, the information
gets updated as and when new information becomes available.
Another notion of mine is that it will help with individual info boxes
eg for politicians, or indeed Tanzanian wards .. :)
NB I am a big fan of providing information using machine translation.
However, PLEASE consider the lessons learned from the Cebuano Wikipedia and
make the texts available in a cached way; not in the final form as saved
text.
Thanks,
GerardM
PS when there is something where we can collaborate, please let me know.
[1]
https://sw.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mtumiaji:GerardM
On 18 June 2018 at 01:12, Olya Irzak <oirzak(a)gmail.com> wrote:
Dear Wikidata community,
We're working on a project called Wikibabel to machine-translate parts
of Wikipedia into underserved languages, starting with Swahili.
In hopes that some of our ideas can be helpful to machine translation
projects, we wrote a blogpost about how we prioritized which pages to
translate, and what categories need a human in the loop:
https://medium.com/@oirzak/wikibabel-equalizing-information-
access-on-a-budget-4038f750e90e
Rumor has it that the Wikidata community has thought deeply about
information access. We'd love your feedback on our work. Please let us know
about past / ongoing machine translation related projects so we can learn
from & collaborate with them.
Best regards,
Olya & the Wikibabel crew
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