I never streamed, but using an good recorder like the Zoom ones (100-150€)
one gets very good quality for mp3 to be uploaded. I also use a 40€ audio
recorder for qualitative interviews which also does a good job if within
1-2m to the speaker.
Jan
2018-01-22 20:25 GMT+00:00 Aaron Halfaker <aaron.halfaker(a)gmail.com>om>:
+1 to Leila's note about recording sessions.
It's not cheap, but it
doesn't need to be so expensive. Who is forcing us to use a professional
service (and profession pricing) to record the sessions?
If we can get around such requirements, I'd be interested in donating my
time. We come from a culture of volunteers. We have cell phones, and
bluetooth microphones are cheap. I'd be willing to record/stream sessions
with my cell phone if the conference organizers can provide me a tripod,
power, and maybe a mifi so that a stream can get around the inevitably
terrible conference WiFi. We stream talks regularly at the Wikimedia
Foundation. From a software perspective, this is easy using Google
Hangouts and Youtube. Hardware (audio setup) and network is the most
difficult. But it doesn't need to be great. It just needs to be usable.
Regarding the limited number of views, I imagine that whatever we do, there
will be a powerlaw -- with very few videos getting most of the views. So
looking at the average view count is not a great metric of the success. I
think it would be great if we could instead set a goal of having at least
one video go viral-ish from each iteration of the conference. This would
involve doing some outreach and making space public discussions where
preferential attachment might take place. E.g. you could do this by
tweeting the link to every talk and encouraging tweeters to @reply the
originating tweet with questions and thoughts. That way, you'd take
advantage of the social network of attendees.
-Aaron
On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 3:29 PM, <fn(a)imm.dtu.dk> wrote:
A few extra notes:
On Wikidata we have P4419 for VideoLectures. There are only 47 linked at
the moment.
SELECT ?item ?itemLabel ?url WHERE {
?item wdt:P4419 ?videolectures .
BIND(URI(CONCAT('http://videolectures.net/'et/', ?videolectures)) AS ?url)
SERVICE wikibase:label { bd:serviceParam wikibase:language
"[AUTO_LANGUAGE],en". }
}
https://query.wikidata.org/#SELECT%20%3Fitem%20%3FitemLabel%
20%3Furl%20WHERE%20%7B%0A%20%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP4419%20%
3Fvideolectures%20.%0A%20%20BIND%28URI%28CONCAT%28%
27http%3A%2F%2Fvideolectures.net%2F%27%2C%20%
3Fvideolectures%29%29%20AS%20%3Furl%29%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wik
ibase%3Alabel%20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguag
e%20%22%5BAUTO_LANGUAGE%5D%2Cen%22.%20%7D%0A%7D
For KDD 2010 at
http://videolectures.net/kdd2010_washington/ the three
invited talks have 1500 views (I do not know what a VideoLectures "view"
is, whether it is a complete view or just starting the video).
An opportunity with videos on Commons is to describe them on Wikidata so
that they can be queried with the Wikidata Query Service and become more
discoverable. We have recently started to add handling of events to
Scholia
https://tools.wmflabs.org/scholia/. It would be
interesting to include
videos to the Scholia pages describing scientific meetings.
Encouraging conference speakers to upload screencast could be another
possibility.
I wonder if there is any statistics on Wikimedia Commons video views?
As a P.S.: I find it interesting that videos can be reused out of
context,
e.g., Wikinews videos on Korean matters were
reused on the
page on Robert Kelly:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/
Robert_Kelly_(political_analyst)
Finn Årup Nielsen
http://people.compute.dtu.dk/faan/
On 01/18/2018 08:45 PM, Leila Zia wrote:
> Hi Nicolas,
>
> While I appreciate the desire and commitment to be open by default and
> I am big supporter of Aaron's reminders to all of us for staying open
> as much as we can, I'd like to put some different perspective here, as
> the topic of video-recording for academic conferences has been
> relatively hot in the past few years. :)
>
> I do believe that the organizers of academic conferences (and I
> emphasize on the academic component, I do have very different
> perspectives for a conference such as Wikimania or an event like
> WikiCite) should consider cost tradeoffs very carefully when choosing
> to record the sessions at all or not. For context, I'm the general
> co-chair for The Web Conference 2019 (a.k.a., WWW2019) and we actively
> discuss this topic in the context of that conference. Some things to
> consider:
>
> * The cost of recording (almost) all sessions, depending on where you
> organize the conference can be really high. For example, for a
> conference in San Francisco, unless the conference is organized on a
> federal land (which is not the case for TWC2019), we cannot have
> volunteers recording the sessions. Professional crew will have to do
> it, and one will have to look at the costs carefully. We will be
> talking certainly about more than $150K.
>
> * KDD has been doing recording of many of its sessions in the past
> couple of years. The view counts of these videos are not very high. I
> understand that view counts is not the only measure of success for a
> video, but I also would argue that if the cost is very high, and
> resources are constrained, someone should look into the value the
> recording will bring for the global community of researchers.
>
> * In the limited subset of conferences I attend or I'm in network of,
> year in and year out, Networking is chosen as the top reason for
> coming to the conference. Many choose to attend a few talks and spend
> the rest of the time just talking to people. :) Just today a colleague
> reminded me of this: people who attend these conferences have already
> decided what is the most valuable item for them in this conference.
> Why should we take the second or third most favorite part of the
> conference and record it for others? Why don't we focus on the top
> commodity and make it available to those who can't attend? This is
> something to keep in mind.
>
> * Someone should seriously look into this, but there is argument to be
> made that if the money spent on recording is very large compared to
> the size of the budget for the conference, channeling that to student
> scholarships and providing an opportunity to students who normally
> would not make it to these conferences to experience the networking
> side of the conference (which is rated very high usually in surveys)
> can be a better choice. I'm not talking about providing scholarships
> to the students who would make it anyway, but thinking carefully about
> those who would never make it on their own unless we would proactively
> reach out to them and help them make the journey happen.
>
> Good luck with organizing OpenSym. I have even a bigger respect now
> that I'm at this side of a big conference for people like you and your
> colleagues who stand up, many times as volunteers, and make these
> conferences happen. :)
>
> Best,
> Leila
>
> --
> Leila Zia
> Senior Research Scientist
> Wikimedia Foundation
>
>
> On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 12:33 AM, Nicolas Jullien
> <Nicolas.Jullien(a)telecom-bretagne.eu> wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> our plan is that they will, we are committed to that, but also that the
>> papers are accessible before the presentation.
>> Olivier and Georg, in cc, are already working on that aspect.
>>
>> My philosophy is that the goal of the presentations (and of being in
>> Paris)
>> must be to interact better, to build on the research presented, in a
>> world
>> to have time to co-construct the next steps.
>>
>> But, of course, if you guys reading cannot be in Paris with us (August
>> 22-24), we will make our best to provide you with the tools to be
>> connected
>> with the conference
>>
>> Nicolas
>>
>> Le 17/01/2018 à 21:59, Aaron Halfaker a écrit :
>>
>>>
>>> Hi Nicolas!
>>>
>>> Thanks for sending the CFP. Any chance that the talks will be
>>> live-streamed this year? :)
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 17, 2018 at 10:57 AM, Nicolas Jullien
>>> <Nicolas.Jullien(a)telecom-bretagne.eu
>>> <mailto:Nicolas.Jullien@telecom-bretagne.eu>> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> Dear all,
>>>
>>> it's my pleasure to inform you that the call for paper for
OpenSym
>>> 2018 is available.
>>> Conference Website and call for papers:
http://opensym.org
>>>
>>> Papers are due by March 15, 23h59 (any time on Earth).
>>> Submission:
https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=opensym2018
>>> <https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=opensym2018>
>>> (accepted rate in 2017: 45%)
>>>
>>> Topics: The conference provides peer-reviewed research tracks on
>>> subjects related to open collaboration including:
>>> - Open Collaboration Research, esp. Wikis and Social Media
>>> - Free/Libre and Open Source Software (FLOSS)
>>> - Open Data, Open Access, and Open Science
>>> - Open Education
>>> - IT-Driven Open Innovation
>>> - Open Policy/Open Government/Open Law
>>> - Wikipedia and Wikimedia Research
>>>
>>>
>>> Looking forward to seeing your paper's presentation in Paris
>>>
>>> Nicolas Jullien, general chair of OpenSym 2018
>>>
>>> About the Conference
>>> --------------------
>>>
>>> OpenSym is the only conference that brings together the different
>>> strands of open collaboration research and practice, seeking to
>>> create synergies and inspire new collaborations between people
from
>>> computer science, information
science, social science,
humanities,
>>> and everyone interested in
understanding open collaboration and
how
>>> it is changing our society.
>>> This year’s conference will be held in Paris, France on August
>>> 22-24, 2018. A Doctoral Symposium will take place on August 21,
>>> 2018.
>>> OpenSym is held in-cooperation with ACM SIGWEB and ACM SIGSOFT
and
>>> the conference proceedings will
be archived in the ACM digital
>>> library like all prior editions.
>>>
>>>
>>> Submission Information and Instructions
>>> ---------------------------------------
>>> Topics: The conference provides peer-reviewed research tracks on
>>> subjects related to open collaboration including:
>>> - Open Collaboration Research, esp. Wikis and Social Media
>>> - Free/Libre and Open Source Software (FLOSS)
>>> - Open Data, Open Access, and Open Science
>>> - Open Education
>>> - IT-Driven Open Innovation
>>> - Open Policy/Open Government/Open Law
>>> - Wikipedia and Wikimedia Research
>>> Paper Presentation: OpenSym 2018 will be organized as a one track
>>> conference in order to emphasize the interdisciplinary character
of
>>> this conference and to encourage
discussion.
>>> Submission Deadline: The research paper submission deadline is
>>> March
>>> 15th 2018. Submitted papers should present integrative reviews or
>>> original reports of substantive new work: theoretical, empirical,
>>> and/or in the design, development and/or deployment of novel
>>> concepts, systems, and mechanisms. Research papers will be
reviewed
>>> to meet rigorous academic
standards of publication. Papers will
be
>>> reviewed for relevance,
conceptual quality, innovation and
clarity
>>> of presentation.
>>> All the submissions are done via the EasyChair platform, here:
>>>
https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=opensym2018
>>> <https://easychair.org/conferences/?conf=opensym2018>
>>> Paper Length: There is no minimum or maximum length for submitted
>>> papers. Rather, reviewers will be instructed to weigh the
>>> contribution of a paper relative to its length. Papers should
>>> report
>>> research thoroughly but succinctly: brevity is a virtue. A
typical
>>> length of a “long research
paper” is 10 pages (formerly the
maximum
>>> length limit and the limit on
OpenSym tracks), but may be shorter
>>> if
>>> the contribution can be described and supported in fewer
>>> pages—shorter, more focused papers (called “short research
papers”
>>> previously) are encouraged and
will be reviewed like any other
>>> paper. While we will review papers longer than 10 pages, the
>>> contribution must warrant the extra length. Reviewers will be
>>> instructed to reject papers whose length is incommensurate with
the
>>> size of their contribution.
Papers should be formatted in ACM
>>> SIGCHI
>>> paper format. Reviewing is not double-blind so manuscripts do not
>>> need to be anonymized.
>>> Posters: As in previous years, OpenSym will also be hosting a
>>> poster
>>> session at the conference. To propose a poster, authors should
>>> submit an extended abstract (not more than 4 pages) describing
the
>>> content of the poster which will
be published in a non-archival
>>> companion proceedings to the conference. Posters should use the
ACM
>>> SIGCHI templates for extended
abstracts. An example of a poster
>>> abstract can be found here. Reviewing is not double-blind so
>>> abstracts do not need to be anonymized.
>>> Paper Proceedings: OpenSym is held in-cooperation with ACM SIGWEB
>>> and ACM SIGSOFT and the conference proceedings will be archived
in
>>> the ACM digital library like all
prior editions. OpenSym seeks to
>>> accommodate the needs of the different research disciplines it
>>> draws
>>> on including disciplines with archival conference proceedings and
>>> disciplines where authors usually present at conferences and
>>> publish
>>> later. Authors, whose submitted papers have been accepted for
>>> presentation at the conference have a choice of:
>>> having their paper become part of the official proceedings,
>>> archived
>>> in the ACM Digital Library,
>>> having their paper published in the conference website only, with
>>> no
>>> transfer of copyright from the authors,
>>> having no publication record at all but only the presentation at
>>> the
>>> conference.
>>> Response from authors: For the second time at OpenSym, authors
will
>>> be given the opportunity to
write a response to their reviews
>>> before
>>> final decisions are made. This should be treated as an
opportunity
>>> to correct any mistakes or
misconceptions in the reviews as well
as
>>> to propose minor changes that
the authors can make during the two
>>> weeks between notification and the camera-ready deadline.
>>> Important Dates
>>> Submission deadline: March 15, 2018
>>> Reviews sent to authors: May 11, 2018
>>> Response to reviews from authors due: May 20, 2018
>>> Final decision notification: June 15, 2018
>>> Camera-ready papers due: June 22, 2018
>>> Papers available online: July 13, 2018
>>> Conference Organization
>>> The general chairs of the conference are Nicolas Jullien and
>>> Olivier
>>> Berger, IMT, France. Feel free to contact us with any questions
you
> might have at info(a)opensym.org
<mailto:info@opensym.org>.
>
>
>
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