Angela wrote:
So, if there are any objections to moving the
finished Wikijunior
texts to
Wikijunior.org and keeping the editing processes on
Wikibooks.org, please raise those, either here, or at the Wikibooks
Staff lounge (<http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Wikibooks:Staff_lounge>).
Angela.
I think both are a poor place to request comments from Wikijunior
authors, but I don't know of many better places to make such a request
either. More generally, the Wikijunior talk page on both Meta and
Wikibooks are slightly better places to request information, as is the
talk pages for each major project (especially Wikijunior Solar System)
that do seem to get quite a bit more attention lately, especially from
current Wikijunior participants that don't seem to be regular
participants at the general Wikibooks Staff Lounge. This mailing list
is mainly old-timers and a few poor souls who have wandered in aimlessly
by mistake. Still, it does get a little bit of attention and a small
amount of bandwidth, which is why I still read and respond to comments
on this list.
A week or two of notification is also clearly not enough time to get
community input from the Wikijunior participants, in part due to the
nature of the way things get accomplished on Wikibooks. You need to be
quite a bit more patient on Wikibooks than comparible proposals on
Wikipedia, for instance.
On the whole, I don't think we are anywhere close to having any content
"moved" to a
Wikijunior.org website at the moment. There is an
organized effort to try and get the Wikijunior Solar System brought up
to some higher standards, and there are a couple of sections that are
perhaps "ready" for a public display on a seperate website. The rest of
the Wikijunior pages are not nearly ready for anything like that, unless
you are ready to make it a full editable wiki domain instead as a full
Wikimedia sister project. I don't think that is the purpose of what you
are proposing either.
In this proposal, I also don't see any discussion over the mechanics of
how content is going to be nominated to get moved over, who is going to
maintain the new website, and how the navigation of the content on that
website is going to be done. These are not trivial requests or points
either, and from this alone I think the proposal is incomplete. Having
admins from Wikibooks be in charge of this new Wikijunior site might be
useful, but I'm not convinced that is a good idea either. The current
navigation and layout of Wikijunior is designed to encourage
participation and editing, as well as provides tools and resources for
people who are adding content. Certainly that needs a major overhaul if
we move to a seperate website.
I also don't like the proposal that this turns into "Wikipedia-Junior"
where all of the articles from the seperate Wikijunior projects are
merged together into a general encyclopedia format. That is not the way
they were written, and I would personally perfer the "Wikiproject"
portal format instead at the very least, with sub-page naming
conventions. This is yet another issue that needs to be debated and
thought out in detail before this wikijunior site goes "live."
In short, this is not a proposal that has had anywhere near general
community input and some major details need to be filled in before this
proposal is accepted.
Hi
If so, may I asked why this request was written some time ago on the
board agenda ?
Anthere