Platonides <Platonides@...> writes: ok, the link is http://www.italien.ch/de/wiki/Sizilien (it's in german) Template is http://www.italien.ch/de/wiki/Vorlage:Ort (Ort means a location) I think to use sicily/informationm, sicily/weather, sicily/theater is the better way. andy

It looks like a namespace. Links may either be of the form [[Some Page]] (where Main namespace is implied) or [[Namespace:Some Page]]. Namespaces often have special meanings - like Category, Image and Media - which cause them to behave differently during page render. -- Jim R. Wilson (jimbojw) On 10/3/07, Nelson A Li &lt;nli(a)csc.com&gt; wrote: > > Nelson > > Computer Sciences Corporation > Registered Office: 2100 East Grand Avenue, El Segundo California 90245, USA > Registered in USA No: C-489-59 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please > delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in > delivery. > NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to > any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement > or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such > purpose. > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > "David Gerard" > &lt;dgerard(a)gmail.co > m> To > Sent by: "MediaWiki announcements and site > mediawiki-l-bounc admin list" > es(a)lists.wikimedi &lt;mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; > a.org cc > > Subject > 09/28/2007 02:42 Re: [Mediawiki-l] > PM rome:information/weather or > rome/information/weather ? > > Please respond to > MediaWiki > announcements and > site admin list > <mediawiki-l@list > s.wikimedia.org> > > > > > > > On 28/09/2007, Arena Andrea &lt;andrea(a)arena.cd&gt; wrote: > > > i'm not sure wich system to use for every city in Italy. > > It's better to use rome:information/weather or rome/information/ > > weather ? > > > [[Rome:Information/weather]] looks like a namespace. If you can only > have a few namespaces (16?) in Mediawiki, they could run out very > quickly. Not everything with a colon has to be a namespace, but users > may think it is one. > > I prefer having everything in the top layer in a MediaWiki > installation, and grouping things using categories. But some > reasonably sizable installations use subpages (e.g. > [[Rome/Information/Weather]]) in a productive way, e.g. Citizendium. > (CZ is only small compared to en:wp - it's 20,000 pages.) > > > - d. > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l > > > > _______________________________________________ > MediaWiki-l mailing list > MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org > http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l >

Sorry, my mistake. I found the link. Thanks. -----Oprindelig meddelelse----- Fra: mediawiki-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] På vegne af Alexis Moinet Sendt: 1. oktober 2007 12:14 Til: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Emne: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Some articles can be patroled, others can't Henrik Rasmussen wrote : if I click on "last", I have the [mark as patrolled edit] link (except for the N ! whose "last" is not clickable) NB1 : a "&rcid=##" appears in the url NB2 : you're using "enhanced Special:Recentchanges", could you try normal Recentchanges just to see if you have the problem there too (you must click on "diff" link to see the [mark as patrolled edit] link) ? _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

Very good analysis. Since I am new, I will take this opportunity to ask a bit further. Will it be a good idea to create a Category:City? Could it be useful? Nelson Computer Sciences Corporation Registered Office: 2100 East Grand Avenue, El Segundo California 90245, USA Registered in USA No: C-489-59 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Thomas Dalton" <thomas.dalton@gm ail.com> To Sent by: "MediaWiki announcements and site mediawiki-l-bounc admin list" es(a)lists.wikimedi &lt;mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; a.org cc Subject 10/03/2007 04:57 Re: [Mediawiki-l] PM rome:information/weather or rome/information/weather ? Please respond to MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l@list s.wikimedia.org> On 28/09/2007, Arena Andrea &lt;andrea(a)arena.cd&gt; wrote: A namespace for each city doesn't seem to make much sense to me. Subpages would be better. I don't think "information" is required, though, just have Rome/Weather. Someone suggested categories - I wouldn't use categories if every page will only have one category. Categories are great if pages fall into lots of groups, but they aren't really designed for a simple tree structure. _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

Actually Arena Andrea originated the discussion. I was just following the discussion and taking the opportunity to learn something because I have not get the hang of the Category usage yet. Btw, Is subpage the same as section of a page? Nelson Computer Sciences Corporation Registered Office: 2100 East Grand Avenue, El Segundo California 90245, USA Registered in USA No: C-489-59 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Thomas Dalton" <thomas.dalton@gm ail.com> To Sent by: "MediaWiki announcements and site mediawiki-l-bounc admin list" es(a)lists.wikimedi &lt;mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; a.org cc Subject 10/03/2007 05:07 Re: [Mediawiki-l] PM rome:information/weather or rome/information/weather ? Please respond to MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l@list s.wikimedia.org> On 03/10/2007, Nelson A Li &lt;nli(a)csc.com&gt; wrote: a It would provide you with a list of all the cities you have articles on - that could be useful. I'm not sure what you're wiki is actually about - if it's only cities, then there isn't much point. Special:Allpages would give you the same list. _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

I don't want to flood all mediawiki experts' mailboxes, but I am curious to ask what is the advantage of creating subpages? Nelson Computer Sciences Corporation Registered Office: 2100 East Grand Avenue, El Segundo California 90245, USA Registered in USA No: C-489-59 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Thomas Dalton" <thomas.dalton@gm ail.com> To Sent by: "MediaWiki announcements and site mediawiki-l-bounc admin list" es(a)lists.wikimedi &lt;mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; a.org cc Subject 10/03/2007 05:27 Re: [Mediawiki-l] PM rome:information/weather or rome/information/weather ? Please respond to MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l@list s.wikimedia.org> No, completely different. A section of a page is whatever comes after a heading. A subpage is a page with a title of the form "PARENTPAGE/SUBPAGE". In most respects, it's a page like any other. _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

On 03/10/2007, Thomas Dalton &lt;thomas.dalton(a)gmail.com&gt; wrote: Breadcrumbs are a built-in feature of the software and are shown when the page being viewed is a subpage in a namespace with subpages enabled. Rob Church

This is the true meaning of using breadcrumbs, isn't it? Yes. I've always thought that "breadcrumbs" should have been called YAH or "You Are Here". Mark W.

We use subpages to further define a topic. By using the Subpage extention we get a listing of all subpages belonging to a page and the system automatically put a back link on the subpage to the parent page. An example might be your country/city setup. With the country being a page and a subpage for each city. DSig David Tod Sigafoos | SANMAR Corporation PICK Guy 206-770-5585 davesigafoos(a)sanmar.com -----Original Message----- From: mediawiki-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Nelson A Li Sent: Wednesday, October 03, 2007 14:36 To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list Cc: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list; mediawiki-l-bounces(a)lists.wikimedia.org Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] rome:information/weatheror rome/information/weather ? I don't want to flood all mediawiki experts' mailboxes, but I am curious to ask what is the advantage of creating subpages? Nelson Computer Sciences Corporation Registered Office: 2100 East Grand Avenue, El Segundo California 90245, USA Registered in USA No: C-489-59 ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------- This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---------------------------------------------------------------- "Thomas Dalton" <thomas.dalton@gm ail.com> To Sent by: "MediaWiki announcements and site mediawiki-l-bounc admin list" es(a)lists.wikimedi &lt;mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; a.org cc Subject 10/03/2007 05:27 Re: [Mediawiki-l] PM rome:information/weather or rome/information/weather ? Please respond to MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l@list s.wikimedia.org> No, completely different. A section of a page is whatever comes after a heading. A subpage is a page with a title of the form "PARENTPAGE/SUBPAGE". In most respects, it's a page like any other. _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

Thank you for the useful detailed information. From all of the responses can I conclude that subpage is a structural way to manage pages through Namespace mechanism? Nelson Computer Sciences Corporation Registered Office: 2100 East Grand Avenue, El Segundo California 90245, USA Registered in USA No: C-489-59 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- This is a PRIVATE message. If you are not the intended recipient, please delete without copying and kindly advise us by e-mail of the mistake in delivery. NOTE: Regardless of content, this e-mail shall not operate to bind CSC to any order or other contract unless pursuant to explicit written agreement or government initiative expressly permitting the use of e-mail for such purpose. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- "Brianna Laugher" <brianna.laugher@ gmail.com> To Sent by: "MediaWiki announcements and site mediawiki-l-bounc admin list" es(a)lists.wikimedi &lt;mediawiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org&gt; a.org cc Subject 10/03/2007 10:51 Re: [Mediawiki-l] PM rome:information/weather or rome/information/weather ? Please respond to MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l@list s.wikimedia.org> On 04/10/2007, Nelson A Li &lt;nli(a)csc.com&gt; wrote: to The main advantage is conceptual, for understanding the structure or relationship between the different pages. Special:Prefixindex is also useful for subpages structures. Note that by default, no namespaces support subpages. You have to turn it on in LocalSettings.php. See http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Manual:%24wgNamespacesWithSubpages#Enabling_f… AFAIK there are two differences between subpages being enabled or not. The first difference is if subpages are enabled, you will get an automatic backlink to the parent page. The second difference is that relative linking works. So if you have [[Rome]], [[Rome/Information]] and [[Rome/Information/Weather]], on [[Rome/Information]] you can have links like [[..|the main page]] (links to [[Rome]], I think) [[/Weather]] (links to [[Rome/Information/Weather]]) [[../Information2]] (links to [[Rome/Information2]]) If it's not enabled, you've just created a page that happens to have a slash in the title. Like "AC/DC" - if subpages are enabled, "DC" is a subpage of "AC". If they're not enabled, it's just a string that happens to have a slash. To see subpages used extensively I recommend checking out Wikibooks. http://en.wikibooks.org/ regards, Brianna -- They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment: http://modernthings.org/ _______________________________________________ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org http://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l