>> Peter Blaise wrote: ... I'm trying to compile a
>> "see this on a MediaWiki screen, edit it ... HERE"
>> ... listing for MediaWiki administration.
>> Can anyone link me to a list that
>> addresses these on-screen MediaWiki
>> words and their synonyms, and shows
>> where to edit/control their appearance ...
> Jan wrote: I'm not exactly clear on what
> you want. Perhaps you're looking for
> [[Special:Allmessages]]?
Thanks for your question and suggestion, Jan.
Wow, there's 145 pages of unintelligible documentation at
http://yourwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Allmessages&ot=html and
http://yourwiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Allmessages&ot=php - no
wonder it's hard to find quick answers for MediaWiki inquires.
By the way, that series of pages is also a good example of the
misaligned jargon syndrome within MediaWiki community:
Go to [[Special:Allmessages]] and find a screen that says not
"Special:Allmessages" but instead says "System messages"
... so someone would find it by searching for ... which term?
Anyway, there are some synonyms in it which help resolve some
ambiguities, but no directions to where to control the on-screen
MediaWiki parts (not the contents of user contributed articles, but the
on-screen parts of MediaWiki itself).
What I want is to know how to find what controls anything on a MediaWiki
screen.
Say a user asks me to change the logo - where do I find the control for
that?
Say the next user wants me to change the wording of the tabs across the
top - where's the control for that?
And so on, for everything we can see in a default MediaWiki
installation.
Example: I open the manual for my camera and the first thing it does is
tell me the "names of the parts". Then when they say, "open the battery
door," I can look at their map and see what they are talking about. And
they don't sometimes refer to it as the "power source compartment". No,
it's always the "battery door". When they say, "look at the top panel
lcd," I then know they call it the "top panel lcd" when I contact anyone
for help. It's never the "horizontal display". No, it's always the
"top panel lcd" wherever it's referred to.
MediaWiki, however, has no such master "names of parts" page that I can
find, making it hard to find the control for any MediaWiki screen
element I'm staring right at! And when we do have something on screen
with an apparent name, it seems to be controlled by something under
another name, such as, "discussion" is really "talk" and:
on-screen "navigation"
... = MediaWiki:Sidebar
... = http://{your wiki's URL}/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar
And so on. That's why I asked for help finding the names of the
MediaWiki parts, such as:
- on-screen "search"
... = (synonym?)
... = place for a wiki admin to edit/control it
- on-screen "toolbox" =
... = (synonym?)
... = place for a wiki admin to edit/control it
Because I want to CONTROL those on-screen MediaWiki elements, and I
can't find what that are called. As, as exampled above, the name on
screen is not used in any support documentation I can search at
MediaWiki.org. So, c'mon folks, if you know or can find it, please
share links at MediaWiki.org or create it and then share links! Thanks!
--
>> Peter B. wrote: ... and so on for ALL
>> editable page elements in a MediaWiki
>> installation.
> Michael wrote: Install a utility like
> Firebug for Firefox and enable it.
> That will allow you to see every
> element on the screen and see what
> bit of CSS it uses. Useful if you want
> to change the skin in any way. It will
> also allow you to see any other
> HTML/CSS/Script stuff you can
> search for in the various php files
> that make up Mediawiki.
Great, Mike!
... now if I can only get permission to install Firefox ...!!!
However, some MediaWiki page elements are controlled directly by typing
mediawiki:xxxxx
or
speciak:xxxxxxxx
and son on, for some entries into the
"search _____
[go] [search]"
area (whatever that area is called), yet some on-screen MediaWiki
elements require finding, creating or changing lines in
xxxsetting.php
and now you suggest looking for
xxxx.cs
files as they may be the source
... dang, Mike, spread the target w-i-d-e so it's impossible for me to
hit, why dontchya?
:-(
I'll see if I can install Firefox on a USB drive ...
- Peter Blaise
...fighting the good fight, trying to make MediaWiki taste good for the
users around me...
Is there any control over "discussion/talk" page scope?
That is, when you click on a sub-section of a page to edit it, there's a
"discussion" tab in view, but the tab is for the whole page, not just
the editable section you initially clicked on.
Are "discussion/talk" tabs only for the entire "article" page? So ...
we need to split the sections off to their own pages if we want them to
have their own discussions?
Any links to MediaWiki.org that address this?
--
Where is the [save page] [show preview] [show changes] reference call in
the program controls - and what is it called? People would like to see
it above and below the edit box, like Yahoo Mail uses, so they have a
chance of seeing [save...] in immediate view while they're editing
regardless of scrolling the section length, but at least when the page
is scrolled to the top.
Any links to MediaWiki.org that address this?
--
As always, please help find or create links to MediaWiki.org with
answers - thanks.
- Peter Blaise
... still at it ...
PS - Yes, I've searched, but if the answers are on MediaWiki.org, they
are not using the exact words as they appear on screen, so how would be
find them?
We'd like to give our users an offline readable version of the site that
doesn't require installation of the MW engine--basically, just a
collection of HTML files and accompanying images/downloadable files. Is
there a script or other way to do this?
Many thanks,
Ken McDonald
I have added two more wikis to my site (Italian and Spanish) and through
AuthDrupal am handling login with the Drupal community site.
I have just noticed that for the two new wikis I see a question mark after
the username?
e.g Paul? Tom? Patrick? etc
Does this have some special meaning?
This is NOT occurring on the first wiki even though the _user record looks
to be identical for each.
Thanks
Paul
Hello Mailinglist,
I'm new to this list and I already searched the net and this archive for a
solution. There is a problem in our template which should create the proper
link with three different writing versions:
{{#ifexist: {{{2}}} (Episode) | [[{{{2}}} (Episode)]]| {{#ifexist: {{{2}}}
(ENT) | [[{{{2}}} (ENT)]] | {{#ifexist: {{{2}}} | [[{{{2}}}]] | {{{2}}} }}
}} }}
It tests first if there is an article "So-and-so (Episode)" or "So-and-so
(ENT)" to finally links on "So-and-so". In most cases there will be only one
writing, if there are episodes with the same name in different series they
have an extension "Babel (ENT)" and "Babel (DS9)" and have a Disambiguation
page "Babel". In this case the template above shall link on "Babel (ENT)".
The bis problem is, that our MediaWiki 1.10alpha created a Wanted Pages list
with dead link by this template. This occurred when updating to 1.10. What
is wrong? The template or our MediaWiki version?
Some links for more information:
* http://memory-alpha.org/de/wiki/Spezial:Verweisliste/Kir%27Shara_%28ENT%29
* http://memory-alpha.org/de/wiki/Vorlage:ENT (heavily edited for testing)
* http://memory-alpha.org/de/wiki/Vorlage:TNG (original ever since)
Thanks for any tip or help in advance!
Florian
Hi fellow MediaWikians,
I'm trying to compile a:
"see this on a MediaWiki screen, edit it ... HERE"
... listing for MediaWiki administration. Can anyone link me to a list
that addresses these on-screen MediaWiki words and their synonyms, and
shows where to edit/control their appearance ... or, failing any
existing published documentation, perhaps we each could take what we
know on put it on mediawiki.org and then share a link here in response
to this post? Thanks!
- on-screen "navigation"
... = MediaWiki:Sidebar
... = http://{your wiki's URL}/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Sidebar
- on-screen "search"
... = (synonym?)
... = place to edit/control it
- on-screen "toolbox" =
... = (synonym?)
... = place to edit/control it
... and so on for ALL editable page elements in a MediaWiki
installation.
Thanks!
- Peter Blaise
... still at it, still fighting for a real server, but in development
nonetheless, sharing an intranet MediaWiki from my workstation!
Howdy
I recently updated form 1.6.8 to 1.8.4. A few things did not seem to
survive the "move"
* Image tag does not work - I cannot get *[[image:tst.png]]* to work
* I can no longer upload ExCel file - complains about corrupted file
* This template no longer work - the image does not display
[[media:{{{1}}}|{{{2}}} (PDF)]] <span
class="plainlinks">[{{SERVER}}{{localurl:image:{{{1}}}}}
https://information.ncs.mcgill.ca/ourdocs/images/d/da/Info_circle.png]</span>
The rest of the site appears to be fine - the image for the spell
checker no longer appears, but I suspect it is related to the image
problem - though
the path for images in correct and has not changed. I figure it is a
variable setting, but darned if I know which one.
Thanks for the help.
r
> From: "Monahon, Peter B." <Peter.Monahon(a)USPTO.GOV>
>
> I'm trying to compile a:
>
> "see this on a MediaWiki screen, edit it ... HERE"
>
> ... listing for MediaWiki administration. Can anyone link me to a
> list
> that addresses these on-screen MediaWiki words and their synonyms, and
> shows where to edit/control their appearance ...
I'm not exactly clear on what you want. Perhaps you're looking for
[[Special:Allmessages]]?
:::: Rest satisfied with doing well, and leave others to talk of you
as they please. -- Pythagoras ::::
:::: Jan Steinman <http://www.VeggieVanGogh.com> ::::
We are moving into templates and so using the 'inuse' template that was
suggested to me last week ..
I exported and imported
I saved/uploaded image
After a little fitzing (technical term for not sure what's happening :)
when preview/view Template:inuse it looks really nice.
Now I put it in a page and before the image I get
{| class="messagebox plainlinks" id="inuse" style="border: 1px solid
#5A8261; background-color: #CCFFCC;" |-
| style="width: 70px" |
Then the image and then the text
Ideas on why it would look different when viewing the template direct
than it does when you {{inuse}}
Thanks
DSig
David Tod Sigafoos | SANMAR Corporation
PICK Guy
206-770-5585
davesigafoos(a)sanmar.com
> >>> the file links. They are only working on IE, but not in Firefox.
> >> Pages served through HTTP should not point to files in local users
> >> computer, it is a security issue. It is not a MediaWiki
> configuration
> >> problem, it is a Firefox restriction, and it is right in doing so.
> >
> > You are right and I have to admit file links should not exit at all.
> > Anyway, that's for an Intranet need where we want to get
> CIFS security.
> >
> > If I have to look on the Firefox side, is there any tips around ?
> > I already check out smb.exe and user.js tweak, is there something
> > simple around ?
>
> There are tips around! This page explains how to enable links to local
> files: http://kb.mozillazine.org/Links_to_local_pages_don't_work
Thanks but like i said before, something else then smb.exe or user.js.
BTW, user.js doesn't work here...
Anyway, thanks. I already know it's not a Mediawiki syntax issue.
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