On Wed, Dec 28, 2016, 16:45 mathieu stumpf guntz <
psychoslave(a)culture-libre.org> wrote:
Thank you Yuri. Is there some rational
explanation behind this
limits? I
understand the limit over performance concern, and 2Mb seems already
very large for intented glossaries. But 400 chars might be problematic
for some definition I guess, especially since translations can lead to
varying lenght needs.
Le 25/12/2016 à 17:03, Yuri Astrakhan a écrit :
Hi Mathieu, yes, I think you can totally build up
this glossary in a
dataset. Just remember that each string can be no longer then 400
chars,
and total size under 2mb.
On Sun, Dec 25, 2016, 10:45 mathieu stumpf guntz <
psychoslave(a)culture-libre.org> wrote:
> Hi Yuri,
>
> Seems very interesting. Am I wrong thinking this could helpto create
> multi-lingual glossary as drafted in
>
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T150263#2860014 ?
>
>
> Le 22/12/2016 à 20:30, Yuri Astrakhan a écrit :
>> Gift season! We have launched structured data on Commons, available
from
>> all wikis.
>>
>> TLDR; One data store. Use everywhere. Upload table data to Commons,
with
>> localization, and use it to create wiki
tables, lists, or use
>> directly
in
>> graphs. Works for GeoJSON maps too. Must
be licensed as CC0. Try
>> this
>> per-state GDP map demo, and select multiple years. More demos at the
> bottom.
>> US Map state highlight
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Graph:US_Map_state_highlight>
>>
>>
>> Data can now be stored as *.tab and *.map pages in the data
>> namespace
on
>> Commons. That data may contain
localization, so a table cell
>> could be
in
>> multiple languages. And that data is
accessible from any wikis,
>> by Lua
>> scripts, Graphs, and Maps.
>>
>> Lua lets you generate wiki tables from the data by filtering,
converting,
>> mixing, and formatting the raw data. Lua
also lets you generate
>> lists.
Or
>> any wiki markup.
>>
>> Graphs can use both .tab and .map directly to visualize the data and
let
>> users interact with it. The GDP demo
above uses a map from
>> Commons, and
>> colors each segment with the data based on a data table.
>>
>> Kartographer (<maplink>/<mapframe>) can use the .map data as an
>> extra
> layer
>> on top of the base map. This way we can show endangered species'
habitat.
>> == Demo ==
>> * Raw data example
>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Data:Weather/New_York_City.tab>
>> * Interactive Weather data
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Graph:Weather_monthly_history>
>>
>> * Same data in Weather template
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Yurik/WeatherDemo>
>> * Interactive GDP map
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Graph:US_Map_state_highlight>
>>
>> * Endangered Jemez Mountains salamander - habitat
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jemez_Mountains_salamander#/maplink/0>
>>
>> * Population history
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Graph:Population_history>
>> * Line chart <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:Graph:Lines>
>>
>> == Getting started ==
>> * Try creating a page at data:Sandbox/<user>.tab on Commons. Don't
forget
>> the .tab extension, or it won't
work.
>> * Try using some data with the Line chart graph template
>> A thorough guide is needed, help is welcome!
>>
>> == Documentation links ==
>> * Tabular help <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Tabular_Data>
>> * Map help <https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Map_Data>
>> If you find a bug, create Phabricator ticket with #tabular-data
>> tag, or
>> comment on the documentation talk pages.
>>
>> == FAQ ==
>> * Relation to Wikidata: Wikidata is about "facts" (small pieces of
>> information). Structured data is about "blobs" - large amounts of
>> data
> like
>> the historical weather or the outline of the state of New York.
>>
>> == TODOs ==
>> * Add a nice "table editor" - editing JSON by hand is cruel. T134618
>> * "What links here" should track data usage across wikis. Will allow
>> quicker auto-refresh of the pages too. T153966
>> * Support data redirects. T153598
>> * Mega epic: Support external data feeds.
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