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De: greenspun-illustrations-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org <greenspun-illustrations-request(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Asunto: greenspun-illustrations Digest, Vol 2, Issue 1
Para: greenspun-illustrations(a)lists.wikimedia.org
Fecha: lunes, 9 junio, 2008 10:06
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Today's Topics:
1. Hello World III (or IV) (Pierre delaby)
2. Apology for delay (Brianna Laugher)
3. Re: Apology for delay (Oswaldo G. C.)
4. Update: payment method, test demo (Brianna Laugher)
5. Re: Update: payment method, test demo (David Gerard)
6. Auto Responder (akinolatidoye(a)petfarm-ng.com)
7. thank you for good news! (Oswaldo G. C.)
8. Question JIRA Update: payment method, test demo (Jaime Huerta)
9. Re: Update: payment method, test demo (Erik Moeller)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 27 Dec 2007 19:39:52 +0100
From: Pierre delaby <moi.pierred(a)wanadoo.fr>
Subject: [greenspun-illustrations] Hello World III (or IV)
To: Discussion of the Philip Greenspun illustration project
<greenspun-illustrations(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <4773F178.1040802(a)wanadoo.fr>
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Hello everybody..
I'm Delaby Pierre, aka Walk?.
Firts sorry for my english, I'm french. I understand English thanks to
Google translate...
Second, happy christmas ! ( and other...)
Now my presentation.. I'm a young french, who intended to study art, and
wikigraphiste for nearly a year. With the help of other wikigraphists ,
I learned to master Inkscape, and I think I have reached a correct level.
My opinion in (for ?) the project : I agree whit Korrigan for all the
point, and I think the internationalisation of picture is critical..
Just a question : what about the time of the realisation of the request
? 15 days, it's short, no ? And If a take a request, but I have not
finished in time, other participant can also make the request. But if I
finished before any of them (
Say 3 days after), can i propose my work, or am I disqualified ?
So, it's all for time...
Yours,
Walk?
Here the text in french, say better.
Bonjour tout le monde !
Je suis Delaby Pierre, aka Walk?
Escusez moi d'abord de mal parler anglais, je suis fran?ais.. Je
comprend tout de m?me l'anglais, mais en partie grace ? Google translate
Ensuite, joyeux noel ? tous, et compagnie...
Maintenant la pr?sentation. Je suis un jeune fran?ais, qui se destine ?
des ?tudes d'art, et wikigraphiste depuis bient?t un an. J'ai appris ?
maitriser Inkscape gr?ce ? l'aide des autres wikigraphistes, et je pense
avoir un niveau correct.
Mon opinion sur le projet : je suis d'accord avec Korrigan pour tout, et
j'insiste sur l'importance de l'internationalisation des images.
Juste un point que j'aimerais ?claircir : le temps pour la r?alisation
d'une commande. 15 jours c'est pas un peu court ? Et si je prend en
charge une commande et que je n'ai pas fini ? temps, d'autre peuvent
aussi la prendre. Mais si trois jours apr?s j'ai fini, je peut soumettre
mon travail, ou je suis discalifi? ?
C'est tout pour le moment...
Amicalement,
Walk?
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 13:18:06 +1100
From: "Brianna Laugher" <brianna.laugher(a)gmail.com>
Subject: [greenspun-illustrations] Apology for delay
To: greenspun-illustrations(a)lists.wikimedia.org
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Hello everyone,
Just a short note to apologise for the delay in getting Round 1
started. The fault is mine as I have not had enough time to commit to
PGIP. (January has been a good lesson to me in over-committing to too
many projects...)
So I just wanted to write and reassure people that things will still
happen, and I will be providing a lot more input and activity into the
mailing list and the meta pages
(<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/PGIP>)
cheers,
Brianna
user:pfctdayelise
PGIP coordinator
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 22:56:14 +0000 (GMT)
From: "Oswaldo G. C." <oswaldo2025(a)yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [greenspun-illustrations] Apology for delay
To: Discussion of the Philip Greenspun illustration project
<greenspun-illustrations(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <455393.73590.qm(a)web60323.mail.yahoo.com>
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Present!
I'm here waiting good news.
Oswaldo
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Hi all,
I am happy to have two things to announce.
1/
The payment method has been finalised. In short, it will be via
Paypal. This means if you participate, you should have a Paypal
account.
<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Philip_Greenspun_illustration_project/Paymen…>
2/
The image requests will be organised through JIRA, the issue-tracking
system on the toolserver. There is project called 'PGIP' where they
will appear.
<https://jira.toolserver.org/browse/PGIP>
You will need to create an account on JIRA, to be able to pick up
requests to work on.
Using JIRA lets us easily arrange new (unfulfilled) requests,
filled-but-not-completed requests, requests awaiting review, reviewed
requests awaiting payment, and finally completed requests.
There are some "issues" there now ("Illustrations") which all have
names like "test 5", "test 6". I encourage folks to
a) create an account on JIRA
b) play around with the test issues - e.g. by assigning one to
yourself, add comments etc.
JIRA should be fairly multilingual, please let me know if you have
trouble setting your language preference.
What's next: finalising the request list, and then we hop to it!
cheers,
Brianna
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Hello everyone,
Just a short note to apologise for the delay in getting Round 1
started. The fault is mine as I have not had enough time to commit to
PGIP. (January has been a good lesson to me in over-committing to too
many projects...)
So I just wanted to write and reassure people that things will still
happen, and I will be providing a lot more input and activity into the
mailing list and the meta pages
(<http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/PGIP>)
cheers,
Brianna
user:pfctdayelise
PGIP coordinator
--
They've just been waiting in a mountain for the right moment:
http://modernthings.org/
Hello Brianna,
Here is some feedback regarding the Greenspun project, as seen by graphists
from fr.wikipedia (which I will call fr.graphists in this email). I C/C this
email to the Greenspun mailing-list, I guess other people could be
interested.
Regarding the way illustrations would be done :
* The images should have a very high quality: they should be reviewed both
by good graphists and by people who know the topic. Images should be
assessed both regarding their accuracy, their use of colours, their possible
internationalisation, etc. : fr.graphists said that payment should be done
after quality has been acknowledged.
High quality means using good sources: these sources should be sought
beforehand and approved by people involved (zoologists for animal diagrams,
for instance). This is a key point for making good diagrams. The source(s)
should be quoted/acknowledged on the image description page.
* For each illustration, there should be a version with numbered labels and
a blank version, on top of versions with English or other localised labels.
The numbered version allows easy reuse on small Wikipedias (without
graphists), the blank version allows interactive diagrams using ImageMap for
instance.
* Each illustration should be translated in as many languages as possible.
This part can be done by volunteers, but the image has to be advertised to
them.
* Free software should be used if possible. By free software, they mean of
course Inkscape. There are several reasons: first, it is free :-) so in the
same spirit as Wikimedia projects; this software can be used by anyone
without the need to buy a license; it produces better SVG code than OOo or
Illustrator if you don't have the good plugin. Fr.graphists said that this
may be a problem with professional graphists, who tend to use more
professional tools.
* Maybe it goes without saying, but all illustrations should be in SVG
format. PNG is much harder to translate / adapt. ANother good reason to use
Inkscape.
* The selection process may be private (ie not open to anyone) as
competition for money should be avoided. When images are produced, they
should be made available to everybody for review, criticism, and inspiration
!
* Some fr.graphists were anxious about a possible "en.wikipedia-centrism",
meaning that some illustrations would be useful to the en.wikipedia project
but maybe not to others. This can work the other way around too (Wikipedia
vs. Wikibooks, etc.). This also means that they should be easy to translate
(maybe problematic when jargon or technical language is used). Maybe
illustrations for "core topics" should have higher priority as well...
Finally, they also said that it would have much more impact to teach
graphists to use their tools (Inkscape / GIMP / etc.), to create tutorials,
etc. than to pay for a few hundred pictures. This would be much more in the
spirit of Wikimedia projects. People could be paid to teach new graphists,
to write well-illustrated tutorials, etc., which should also potentially
generate less frustration between paid and volunteer graphists.
Another way of avoiding this "frustration" is to make sure the diagrams
produced in the Greenspun project have a really high quality.
The graphists had some general suggestions for the project (which may or may
not fit into the objectives) :
* create commonly accepted standards or recommandations for maps and
diagrams. The French Graphic Lab already uses cartographic standards
extensively (see [1])
* help User:Sting to finish his cartographic tutorials, and translate them
(see [2])
* Make work together a macro-photographer and a graphist, to produce good
quality diagrams of insects and this sort of stuff (see [3] for instance)
* Get programmers to create a cartographic software for Wikipedia, including
standards, etc.
* Help the development of Inkscape, and the SVG rendering software in
MediaWiki (patterns, masks, some issues with arrows, support for animated
SVG...)
That's it, I think. You may read the full comments on [4].
Cheers,
Rémi Kaupp
User:Korrigan
[1] http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aide:Cartographie#Conventions
[2]
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Sting/Brouillon/Carte_topographiqu…
other pages from
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utilisateur:Sting/Brouillon
[3] http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Image:Sch%C3%A9ma_abeille-tag.svg
[4]
http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Discussion_Wikip%C3%A9dia:Atelier_graphique/Im…
