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[mailto:glam-bounces@lists.wikimedia.org] Per conto di Ed Summers
Inviato: giovedì 24 gennaio 2013 12.04
A: Wikimedia & GLAM collaboration [Public]
Oggetto: Re: [GLAM] Wiki GLAM Toolset project
So if you are able to use the Commons API to upload materials from the
GlamWiki Toolset to the Commons it could be written using any Web framework
correct? I guess I'm just wondering if you are constraining yourself a
little bit too much by limiting the development to being done as a MediaWiki
plugin. If you develop your project as a Mediawiki plugin, I imagine that
the more you tailor it to GLAM institutions, the less likely it will be
deployed on the commons, since that environment isn't just about GLAMs. But
maybe I am being overly pessimistic?
Does the Wikimedia Labs environment prescribe or strongly encourage you to
use Mediawiki as a framework? Are they unwilling to deploy Web applications
that are deployed using different technologies, e.g.
Rails, Django, etc. Or do some people involved in the GlamWiki Toolset
project have a lot of experience developing with MediaWiki, so that is their
preference?
I guess I was thinking a stand alone application that talked to the commons
via the API would be easier to tailor to the GLAM community, without
worrying about the politics of getting it deployed. But perhaps you need to
do things that aren't possible via the API?
Sorry for all the questions, I work as a software developer at the Library
of Congress in the United States, and I definitely see the need for what you
are trying to do. In particular the statistics gathering functionality that
I saw outlined at [1] would of great use.
//Ed
[1]
http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:GLAMToolset_project#Goal_2:_Report
_on_requirements_for_usage_and_re-usage_statistics_for_GLAM_content
On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:47 AM, Maarten Zeinstra <mz(a)kl.nl> wrote:
Hi Ed,
This is as of yet unsure.
We are now developing on Wikimedia labs and use the architecture of an
extension.
This extension will either keep on running on WIkimediaLabs and
use Commons' API to upload materials or run as an extension on Wikimedia
Commons. Our team is aiming for the latter. However this is something that
the sysadmins of Commons need to approve. This also a reason why we are
looking for more eyes on the project. To ensure the quality of our code and
avoid any possible security risks.
Does this answer your question?
Cheers,
Maarten
On Jan 24, 2013, at 11:24 , Ed Summers <ehs(a)pobox.com> wrote:
> Sorry, by "Wikimedia instance" I of course meant "Mediawiki
instance"
> :-)
>
> //Ed
>
> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 5:23 AM, Ed Summers <ehs(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>> I guess I'm confused about the expected deployment of the GLAM
>> Toolset. Is the idea that the plugins you develop will be deployed
>> on the commons? Or will the GLAM Toolset be deployed in a separate
>> Wikimedia instance, and then (somehow) the data will be migrated
>> from it to the commons? Or something else entirely?
>>
>> //Ed
>>
>> On Thu, Jan 24, 2013 at 4:09 AM, Maarten Zeinstra <mz(a)kl.nl> wrote:
>>> Hi Ed,
>>>
>>> The short answer is no.
>>>
>>> Mass uploading files from cultural institutions has always been a
>>> tailor made process. Most of it thanks to the work of Maarten Dammers/
Multichill.
>>> We are now seeing that more and more
cultural institution want to
>>> add parts of their collection online which makes this original process
not manageable.
>>> This is mainly because there are different
standards used within
>>> WIkimedia Commons and within the cultural institution. This project
>>> tries to solve that project by giving an interface for these
>>> institution to upload data and map their internal standard to the
standard that Wikimedia Commons uses.
> Also it gives these institutions the option to do
it without much
> assistance from a Wikipedian, which speeds things up in the long run.
>
> Does this answer your question?
>
> Cheers,
>
> Maarten Zeinstra
> Project member of the Wiki GLAM Toolset project
>
> On Jan 24, 2013, at 3:42 , Ed Summers <ehs(a)pobox.com> wrote:
>
> Is it not possible to upload metadata via the API?
>
> On Wednesday, January 23, 2013, Maarten Dammers wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ed,
>>
>> Op 23-1-2013 11:14, Ed Summers schreef:
>>>
>>> Thanks for the update. I was wondering why you need to develop
>>> this new functionality as a mediawiki extension. Is there not
>>> enough functionality in the commons Web API [1]? Or is the plan
>>> to create plugins that will be deployed on commons.wikimedia.org?
>>
>> It's not about uploading large amounts of images (that's easy),
>> but it's about uploading it with metadata properly sorted out.
>> For this handling of metadata the extension will be the interface.
>> Please take a look at the sprint demo's at
>>
https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:GLAMwiki_toolset_projec
>> t to get an idea.
>>
>> Hope that that answers your question,
>>
>> Maarten
>>
>>>
>>> //Ed
>>>
>>> [1]
http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/api.php
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 7:50 AM, Geer Oskam <Geer.Oskam(a)kb.nl> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> As you might have heard Wikimedia Nederland, Wikimedia UK,
>>>> Wikimedia France and Europeana are collaborating to provide a
>>>> set of tools to get material from GLAM institutions onto
>>>> Wikimedia Commons. The Wiki GLAM Toolset has to be created in a
>>>> way that re-use can easily be tracked, and that Commons
>>>> materials can easily be integrated back into the collection of
>>>> the original GLAM. You can find more about our the Wiki GLAM
>>>> Toolset on our project page.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Currently we are looking for developers who can help us in this
>>>> process, if you are interested please let us know. You can find
>>>> more specific information about our needs on our discussion
>>>> page.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Thank you!
>>>>
>>>> Geer Oskam
>>>>
www.europeana.eu
>>>>
>>>> Phone: +31 (0)70 31 40 972
>>>> Email: geer.oskam(a)kb.nl
>>>> Skype: GeerOskam
>>>>
>>>> Over 20 million cultural records for re-use via Europeana API:
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>>>>
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