Commons *has* a community, though a small and vulnerable one, and
regretfully declining community over the last years. Currently some twenty
people contribute 100 edits or more a month, and some four hundred people
contribute 5 edits or more a month, which is comparable to a "small"
language Wikipedia. I thank Pieter Kuiper fully for admitting Commons isn't
without it's own problems. I thank Ting Cheng, a community elected board
member of the Wikimedia Foundation, for his lengthy elaboration recognizing
an issue. I thank Dror for standing up. This Spring the WMF has initiated a
year long strategy formation process asking input from all sides and parties
involved around a series of questions concerning participation, reach and
quality. (Strict) compliance with license(s) is considered a [[[quality]]
issue by more than one regular contributor to Commons. Several image
gathering projects do have several goals, most notably informing the public
about free repositories of (for example) images which I will dub [[reach]]
and hooking newcomers to become contributors of content, which I will dub
[[participation]]. Initially dubbed [[governance of Commmons]] I would like
to invite all participants in this discussion, and all participants in the
[[massive upload conflict]]s to participate this year, just started, and
ending summer 2010, in the overall Wikimedia Foundation strategy formation
process. Help us all finding answers to all of "What should we do" and "How
should we do" questions. In my belief all active participants to Commons
should be give the time to reflect on the current issue, and give their
opinion, if they want to, which can take a longer time than the wikibreak of
Dror. Maybe it might be possible to generate a rough guideline in a year
time about [[I started a project to have the public take images and upload
them ultimately to Commons. How and when should I inform the community at
commons about my project and under which conditions won't the community at
Commons block all uploads from my project]]. After all, the Commons is a
very special project. It has many more sysops than active contributors. And,
as far as I know, a sysop is just a technical function, with the ability
(some buttons) and not the authority to push them without 'community
consent'. Governance at he commons and discussing about sysops might blur
this a little bit. That might presuppose sysops having an organizational
role or function they wouldn't have. And one last thing: Commons, like all
projects, are independent of the WMF, the Board of the WMF can't impose
anything on the project. So Ting showed a lot of courage by stepping into
this discussion, and I thank him for that, again.
Dedalus
As you may know I have been working on firefogg integration with
mediaWiki. As you may also know the mwEmbed library is being designed to
support embedding of these interfaces in arbitrary external contexts. I
wanted to quickly highlight a useful stand alone usage example of the
library:
http://www.firefogg.org/make/advanced.html
This "Make Ogg" link will be something you can send to a person so they
can encode source footage to a local ogg video file with the latest and
greatest ogg encoders (presently the thusnelda theora encoder & vorbis
audio). Updates to thusnelda and other free codecs will be pushed out
via firefogg updates.
For commons / wikimedia usage we will directly integrate firefogg (using
that same codebase) You can see an example of how that works on the
'new-upload' branch here:
http://sandbox.kaltura.com/testwiki/index.php/Special:Upload ...
hopefully we will start putting some of this on testing.wikipedia.org
~soonish ?~
The new-upload branch feature set is quite extensive including the
script-loader, jquery javascript refactoring, the new upload-api, new
mv_embed video player, add media wizard etc. Any feedback and specific
bug reports people can do will be super helpful in gearing up for
merging this 'new-upload' branch.
For an overview see:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Media_Projects_Overview
peace,
--michael
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>> Is there any sort of plan to import these in bulk to Commons? Seems
>> like the ideal thing for a bot to do...
>>
>> Mike
>>
>> On 20 Jun 2009, at 16:22, Erik Moeller wrote:
>>
>>> See: http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/node/5444
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>> Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2009 22:33:06 +0100
>> From: David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com>
>> Subject: [Commons-l] Fwd: [WikiEN-l] The edit heard round the world
>> To: Wikimedia Foundation Mailing List
>> <foundation-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>, Wikimedia Commons Discussion List
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>> Anyone able to help with this?
>>
>> (Durova's been doing a lot of restoration work on Commons. There has
>> also been discussion on wikien-l about crediting restorers - there's
>> frequently no copyright obligation to credit restorers, but doing so
>> is (a) polite (b) more accurate sourcing (c) encourages more good
>> restorations on Commons. Ideas for workable restorer crediting
>> welcomed.)
>>
>>
>> - d.
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Durova <nadezhda.durova(a)gmail.com>
>> Date: 2009/6/27
>> Subject: [WikiEN-l] The edit heard round the world
>> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> Have been working on coaxing the return of a talented editor by the name
>> of
>> Shoemaker's Holiday--who is by far WMF's most skilled volunteer at
>> restoring
>> historic etchings. ?Turns out he's been working on an important project:
>> perhaps someone can help obtain source material.
>>
>> The subject is Paul Revere's engraving of the Boston Massacre:
>>
>> http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/ppmsca.19159
>> http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/ppmsca.01657
>>
>> As you can see, both of the Library of Congress copies are missing
>> sections
>> of data due to damage. ?If we can obtain a high resolution scan from a
>> third
>> copy of this etching, it will become possible to assemble a composite of
>> the
>> complete engraving.
>>
>> (For Wikimedians who aren't US-Based, the Boston Massacre was a key event
>> that preceded the American Revolution. ?Paul Revere's famous depiction
>> helped spread dissatisfaction with colonial rule).
>>
>> What we're looking for are editors who to interface with historic
>> societies
>> or libraries that own an original copy of the engraving. ?Particularly
>> within Boston or Massachusetts, although copies probably exist across
>> various locations in the eastern United States. ?We're looking to obtain
>> an
>> uncompressed scan of the document on the order of 25MB-100MB. ?Source
>> credit
>> will be provided to the institution, of course, and the final work might
>> be
>> selected to run on Wikipedia's main page.
>>
>> Please contact me if you can assist or provide contacts.
>>
>> -Durova
>>
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> Message: 2
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> From: Al Tally <majorly.wiki(a)googlemail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Commons-l Digest, Vol 49, Issue 34
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>> <NO ACTUAL MESSAGE>
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> Could someone please remove this person from the list? Thanks,
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> Alex
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To whoever runs this list: Please remove this user
(jclick(a)suddenlink.net). He doesn't seem to be able to do this himself.
Or doesn't this list have an admin anymore?
Maarten
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> Is there any sort of plan to import these in bulk to Commons? Seems
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>
> Mike
>
> On 20 Jun 2009, at 16:22, Erik Moeller wrote:
>
>> See: http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/node/5444
>>
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> Subject: [Commons-l] Fwd: [WikiEN-l] The edit heard round the world
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> Anyone able to help with this?
>
> (Durova's been doing a lot of restoration work on Commons. There has
> also been discussion on wikien-l about crediting restorers - there's
> frequently no copyright obligation to credit restorers, but doing so
> is (a) polite (b) more accurate sourcing (c) encourages more good
> restorations on Commons. Ideas for workable restorer crediting
> welcomed.)
>
>
> - d.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Durova <nadezhda.durova(a)gmail.com>
> Date: 2009/6/27
> Subject: [WikiEN-l] The edit heard round the world
> To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
> Have been working on coaxing the return of a talented editor by the name
> of
> Shoemaker's Holiday--who is by far WMF's most skilled volunteer at
> restoring
> historic etchings. ?Turns out he's been working on an important project:
> perhaps someone can help obtain source material.
>
> The subject is Paul Revere's engraving of the Boston Massacre:
>
> http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/ppmsca.19159
> http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/ppmsca.01657
>
> As you can see, both of the Library of Congress copies are missing
> sections
> of data due to damage. ?If we can obtain a high resolution scan from a
> third
> copy of this etching, it will become possible to assemble a composite of
> the
> complete engraving.
>
> (For Wikimedians who aren't US-Based, the Boston Massacre was a key event
> that preceded the American Revolution. ?Paul Revere's famous depiction
> helped spread dissatisfaction with colonial rule).
>
> What we're looking for are editors who to interface with historic
> societies
> or libraries that own an original copy of the engraving. ?Particularly
> within Boston or Massachusetts, although copies probably exist across
> various locations in the eastern United States. ?We're looking to obtain
> an
> uncompressed scan of the document on the order of 25MB-100MB. ?Source
> credit
> will be provided to the institution, of course, and the final work might
> be
> selected to run on Wikipedia's main page.
>
> Please contact me if you can assist or provide contacts.
>
> -Durova
>
> --
> http://durova.blogspot.com/
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Anyone able to help with this?
(Durova's been doing a lot of restoration work on Commons. There has
also been discussion on wikien-l about crediting restorers - there's
frequently no copyright obligation to credit restorers, but doing so
is (a) polite (b) more accurate sourcing (c) encourages more good
restorations on Commons. Ideas for workable restorer crediting
welcomed.)
- d.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Durova <nadezhda.durova(a)gmail.com>
Date: 2009/6/27
Subject: [WikiEN-l] The edit heard round the world
To: English Wikipedia <wikien-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
Hi all,
Have been working on coaxing the return of a talented editor by the name of
Shoemaker's Holiday--who is by far WMF's most skilled volunteer at restoring
historic etchings. Turns out he's been working on an important project:
perhaps someone can help obtain source material.
The subject is Paul Revere's engraving of the Boston Massacre:
http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/ppmsca.19159http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/ppmsca.01657
As you can see, both of the Library of Congress copies are missing sections
of data due to damage. If we can obtain a high resolution scan from a third
copy of this etching, it will become possible to assemble a composite of the
complete engraving.
(For Wikimedians who aren't US-Based, the Boston Massacre was a key event
that preceded the American Revolution. Paul Revere's famous depiction
helped spread dissatisfaction with colonial rule).
What we're looking for are editors who to interface with historic societies
or libraries that own an original copy of the engraving. Particularly
within Boston or Massachusetts, although copies probably exist across
various locations in the eastern United States. We're looking to obtain an
uncompressed scan of the document on the order of 25MB-100MB. Source credit
will be provided to the institution, of course, and the final work might be
selected to run on Wikipedia's main page.
Please contact me if you can assist or provide contacts.
-Durova
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I'm presently discussing into it.source an idea to use categories in a new
way, with an "ontology-like" approach that allows a much more effective use
of +incategory (category intersection) and multi-axial categorization. As a
pathologist, I'd like to test this approach in [[Category:Pathology]] and
[[Category:Histopathology]] fields, merging them. Nothing will be changed,
but creation of a limited number of new "keyword-like" categories, with some
simple tranclusion trick inside their code, and use of them into image
pages, nor there's any need of any extension or special code.
My question is: have I to discuss here a little more this project, or is it
better to implement boldly a limited example of my idea, to discuss it on
with a running example?
--
Alex
Take me off your mailing list Jim Click
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> From: David Gerard <dgerard(a)gmail.com>
> Subject: [Commons-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Code updated
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> A note on how to bug the devs about bugs :-)
>
>
> - d.
>
>
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> Date: 2009/6/17
> Subject: Re: [Wikitech-l] Code updated
> To: Wikimedia developers <wikitech-l(a)lists.wikimedia.org>
>
>
> On 6/15/09 7:30 AM, Tim Starling wrote:
>> Wikimedia's copy of MediaWiki has been updated to r51904 (r51864 for
>> extensions). There were lots of fun bugs, the most exciting of which
>> are now fixed.
>
> Awesome, thanks Tim!
>
>> Developers, please check the bug tracker for bugs reported against
>> code that you maintain, or bugs that you can otherwise fix. Users,
>> please report any bugs you notice there, after doing a search for
>> duplicates, even if you also report them in other places such as IRC
>> or [[WP:VPT]].
>>
>> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/
>>
>> Please do not discourage users from reporting "known issues", point
>> them to the bug report so that they can give us a priority hint in a
>> comment. It's hard to prioritise bug fixes when we don't know how many
>> people are affected or how severe the issue is.
>
> *nod* We're all trying to make sure we use the bug tracker more
> effectively and keep up with both new and old issues. Don't be afraid to
> bug people, but always bug them _with_ the bug tracker so we can keep a
> "paper trail" of what's at issue and how it affects you!
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> Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 11:20:04 +0200
> From: Maarten Dammers <maarten(a)mdammers.nl>
> Subject: Re: [Commons-l] Fwd: [Wikitech-l] Code updated
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> David Gerard schreef:
>> A note on how to bug the devs about bugs :-)
>>
> And these 2 bugs should be voted on by every active Commons user:
>
> Global deleted image review for Commons admins:
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14801
>
> Enable image renaming on WMF wikis:
> https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=15842
>
> Maarten
>
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