[Wikipedia-l] Re: Recipe

Sat Jan 22 19:45:18 UTC 2005

What I like about your observations is that they serve only your own
side of the debate.

Mark

On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 09:03:06 +0100, Gerard Meijssen
<gerard.meijssen at gmail.com> wrote:
> Paweł 'Ausir' Dembowski wrote:
> 
> >MS> Sorry, playing the ignorant American for a bit there. But this just
> >MS> illustrates how woefully undercovered cooking topics are, along with
> >MS> almost all other traditionally "domestic" subjects, which is partly why
> >MS> we're having this whole debate over recipes for the nth time now. If we
> >MS> had decent encyclopedia articles about these things, which is almost
> >MS> never the case, then it would be less of an issue. I think a lot of the
> >MS> visceral objection to recipes is based on the fact that they frequently
> >MS> overwhelm the remaining content of the article, especially if the
> >MS> instructions are given in significant detail.
> >MS> --Michael Snow
> >
> >Well, I wouldn't have anything against recipes in Wikipedia - except
> >that we have Wikibooks now, which is far more suited for that kind of
> >information.
> >
> I am amazed about the amount of words that has been used on this
> subject. To me a few things stand out.
> 
> *There are inclusionists and deletionists.
> * Many arguments about why we should NOT have arguments do not cut it as
> we have plenty of room. Hard disks are cheap nowadays.
> *The importance of food is culturally indicated, therefore people who do
> not get "it", are not likely to get "it", this makes the discussion
> pointless.
> *Spain has an excellent modus vivendi and I would really urge people to
> adopt it so that we can move on. In essence no recipies on their own,
> only in combination with a whole article.
> *The idea that there is a consensus for deleting recipies has been
> proven a fallacy, the only arguments to the contrary I can think of are
> formalistic.Wiki is not much on formality.
> 
> The suggestion of using wikibooks has some merits except that we do not
> have our interproject links yet. Without these we will get the old
> quarrel of no outside references again. My personal opinion is that you
> want at least one recipy that is typical for the dish. Variations can
> then be in wikibooks.
> 
> Thanks,
>     GerardM
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