[Wikipedia-l] One Chinese Wikipedia

Thu Sep 9 15:09:03 UTC 2004

As a temporary measure, we are shutting it down right now.  Switching
it to read-only, moving it to closed-zh-tw subdomain so people can
salvage their work if it's important.

Looking at it, I see exactly 1 user in the past 7 days.  So we are not
stomping on a group of people trying to do something.

If it continues to exist, it would attract an audience even if it is
not a good idea.

We can leave the issue open for the zh community to decide.  I
personally advice for unity.  Similar to "One China, Two Systems", I
propose "One zh, two character sets."

--Jimbo

Andrew Lih wrote:

> I'm not sure why zh-tw was created recently. I can count at least
> three times before where we've requested it not be established so that
> ZH would work towards a traditional-simplified solution.
> 
> -Andrew (User:Fuzheado)
> 
> 
> On Thu, 9 Sep 2004 03:17:09 -0700, Jimmy (Jimbo) Wales <jwales at wikia.com> wrote:
> > I personally support the notion of One Chinese Wikipedia.  I think it
> > makes the most sense from a language point of view, and additionally,
> > I think it makes the most sense from the point of view of having a top
> > quality NPOV resource.
> > 
> > --Jimbo
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Lorenzarius wrote:
> > 
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > Chinese Wikipedia (zh.wikipedia.org) was started in October 2002. At
> > > that time, almost all texts were in simplified Chinese, because the
> > > first Chinese wikipedians are mainly from mainland China. (Being a
> > > traditional Chinese user since birth, I was "scared away" when I first
> > > went to zh: and saw that the whole site is in simp. Chinese.) But at
> > > that time, most of the zh wikipedians agree that there should only be
> > > one Chinese Wikipedia, but not two, because simp. and traditional
> > > Chinese is one language actually, the difference being that some
> > > characters are written in a different way and that wikipedians from
> > > different part of the world have different names/terms for the same
> > > object. (Just like a British would write "The centre of a sulphur atom
> > > on a railway ." while an American would write "The center of a sulfur
> > > atom on a railroad.") Most of the zh wikipedians can read both form of
> > > characters, though we write in our respective native form. That's why
> > > we want to have ONE zh: only.
> > >
> > > We have been discussing on how to deal with this trad/simp problem
> > > since the beginning. The consensus is that pages would be converted
> > > between simp. and trad. according to the need of the reader/editor by
> > > some automatic script or software. Though the development of such a
> > > software has not started until recently (due to a lack of technical
> > > assistance).
> > >
> > > I am writing this mail because I see that zh-tw.wikipedia.org has been
> > > set up. Being a long-time contributor to zh:, I feel quite frustrated
> > > because it seems that all the discussion we have on how to solve this
> > > problem are in vain.
> > >
> > > Therefore I request that zh-tw.wikipedia.org and zh-cn.wikipedia.org
> > > be redirected to zh.wikipedia.org.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > > Lorenzarius
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