[WikiEN-l] Request for the unblocking of PatCheng

Sun Jun 18 12:42:53 UTC 2006

Who should I apologise to, if they've "formed a reasonable opinion that
you're not worth your time"? If you want me to apologise to those I
attacked, I already did.

On 6/17/06, Steve Bennett <stevagewp at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 6/17/06, Richard Fan <richardfanx at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Did you actually bother to read WP:Sock puppetry? Nowhere is blocked
> users
> > > mentioned, nor is using it to get the attention of an admin. It does
> however
>
> Well, apart from this sentence: "Users who are banned from editing or
> temporarily subject to a legitimate block may not use sock puppets to
> circumvent this. Evading a ban in this manner causes the timer on the
> ban to restart, and may further lengthen the ban."
>
> That difficult-to-find paragraph was under "Circumventing policy"
> which was under "Prohibited uses of sock puppets". Section 1.3 if you
> still can't find it.
>
> > > mention use sockpuppets to engage in edits wars is clearly a violation
> of
> > > the rule, which does include TJive.
>
> Let's not worry about TJive ok? Trying to get someone else banned is
> unlikely to help your case.
>
> > > No, it showed a severe double standard in Blnguyen's policies towards
> > > users with the same political opinion versus the ones who doesn't.
> Does this
> > > admin even follow WP policies regarding blocking?
>
> Double standards are actually ok. Admins get in trouble when they
> block for the wrong reason, but failing to block at all is not a
> problem - another admin could always do that.
>
> > I've been blocked 24 hours for this already, thus I cannot be punished
> > twice for the same offence.
>
> For exactly the same instance of the same offence? I'd agree that you
> *shouldn't* be punished twice for the same offence, but there's
> nothing that says you *can't*. It's all up to admin discretion.
>
> > > Why? Admins such as Blnguyen and Tony Sidaway refuse even to talk to
> me,
> > > and openly sided with TJive, that somehow this vandal's "evidence" is
> all
> > > that needed to block me. Kunguadam already unblocked me, and Blnguyen
> simply
> > > reblocked me to engage a wheel war.
>
> If they refuse to talk to you, it's probably because they've formed a
> reasonable opinion that you're not worth your time. Wonder how that
> happened. Well, there are still some more avenues, but most of them
> involve admitting you were wrong, accepting that the admins were
> right, and promising to do better in the future. Or, there's always
> myspace.com.
>
> Steve
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