There is no GFDL issue relative to [[WP:OURS]] that is a seperate issue
having to do with a sser page that Resid Gulerdem was editing on via anon
IPs despite his blocked status. [[WP:OURS]] was proposed here on the mailing
list by Resid Gulerdem, shortly afterwards Raphael Wegmann posted Resid
Gulerdem's policy proposal entitled Wikipedia:OURS [[WP:OURS]]. Raphael did
mention adding some text to it but the fact remains that the policy was
created by Resid Gulerdem so in creating the policy proposal on Wikipedia,
Raphael created a page on Resid Gulerdem's behalf (he acted as his proxy).
The question of what Raphael Wegmann would have to do to make the policy
proposal truly his own is a bit esoteric. But naming it the same thing as
what Resid Gulerdem named it and it having primarily text in it that Resid
Gulerdem himself added is essentially a proxy maneuver on Wegmann's part.
Any other questions?
-Scott Stevenson
On 6/6/06, George Herbert <george.herbert(a)gmail.com> wrote:
On 6/6/06, Scott Stevenson <wikinetscott(a)gmail.com> wrote:
George Willaim Herbert,
While I understand your concerns about "thougthcrime" the only precedent
that might exist here is that a page created by a banned user through
proxy
was deleted. Pages created by banned users can be speedy deleted under
[[WP:CSD#General_criteria]] general criteria #5. Discussion about a
proposal
isn't verboten (and in fact on one of the the original threads started
by
Resid Gulerdem there is indeed a very lively
ongoing discussion).
Hope that helps you to better understand this.
I understand the policy, but the effect is apparently to limit that
discussion to Wikien-L and not on WP itself.
Is that the (big picture) right thing to do?
Would Raphael paraphrasing the whole WP:OURS page instead of just cutting
and pasting it get around the current GFDL issue, or is the very existence
of a WP:OURS page forbidden forever now since Resid got himself banned,
requiring a retitle as well? If Raphael retitled and paraphrased/rewrote
from scratch the proposal, would that still be banned in your
interpretation?
Again, this commentary is NOT any kind of support for WP:OURS. I'm just
uncomfortable with how the proposal's being treated at the moment.
--
-george william herbert
gherbert(a)retro.com / george.herbert(a)gmail.com
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