I agree. Regardless of whether people complain about WP:OFFICE, if Danny
applies WP:OFFICE, people will complain, but they will not reverse his
actions. Not applying WP:OFFICE means that people won't know whether they
can reverse his actions or not.
If Danny doesn't want to use WP:OFFICE anymore, he (or Jimbo) should just
delete the policy and find another way to deal with it. If, however, he
wants a readily-available and very visible way of telling people "you
reverse this action, you will get desysoped and banned for endangering the
Foundation", I don't see a better wa than applying WP:OFFICE. People may
complain, but they know the consequences of reverting him.
On 4/19/06, John Tex <johntexster(a)gmail.com> wrote:
In response to Johntex:
> Finally, I love the message for our attorney
which explains the
importance
of having
an office policy, but does absolutely nothing to provide any
rational for why we
should then FAIL TO FOLLW our office policy. I
guess
> maybe that sort of speech fools some of the
people some of the time.
TonySidaway said:
This is uncalled for.
Tony, I have to disagree. The attorney works for the foundation, not the
other way around. Critiquing whether or not he speaks to the question at
hand is perfectly fair. All he did was say, we need "WP:Office". Fine.
Let's follow WP:Office, but that means all of us.
TonySidaway said:
I'm sitting here and, over the months,
watching people head towards
Danny's office actions like moths to a flame. No wonder he doesn't
want to advertise them, particularly the more sensitive ones.
That is no justification. Doing things on the sly is the way to attract
INCREASING criticism. I'm a perfect example, I've never had any complaint
about any WP:OFFICE action untill this.
TonySidaway said:
This latest kerfuffle is a good sign that the
process we have set up just
isn't enough. The rules are not an end in themselves.
I agree here in principle that results are more important than
process. But
the results here are all bad: A good admin got desysopped unfairly,
massively additional attention was drawn to this than if the rules had
been
followed, WP:OFFICE takes it on the chin, etc. Therefore, saying the ends
justified the means is no good argument in this case.
-Johntex
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