On the contrary, the [[Socialist International]], which speaks for
mainstream socialism, does oppose racism.
Fred
On Apr 14, 2006, at 1:49 PM, Sam Spade wrote:
Trying to add
a view that National Socialism was, er, the only real socialism
ever implemented seemed rather foolish, and out of place there.
The article needs more references, but I can see it is hard to
do this in the overview (havent yet had time to read all the
subarticles).
Justinc
Thats a pretty uninsightful interpretation of what was going on.
Editors have been trying to insert that claim that socialism opposes
racism:
"Socialism rejects the [[racist]] theories and [[totalitarianism]] of
the Nazis, while Nazism rejected the policies of [[internationalism]],
[[egalitarianism]], [[class struggle]], and common ownership of the
[[means of production]] pursued by many socialists.<ref>[[Leon
Trotsky|Trotsky]], Leon.
''[http://www.marxists.org/archive/trotsky/works/1930-ger/330610.htm
What is National Socialism?]'' June 10 1933</ref>"
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?
title=Socialism&diff=46506992&oldid=46506617
That is a highly misleading "citation" there. Trotsky doesn't define
Socialism any more than Hitler, Mao or Marx does. They all are persons
who claimed to be socialists, with wildly divergent views. There is no
consensus amongst socialists on these issues, and it is false to claim
their is one.
SS
On 4/14/06, Justin Cormack <justin(a)specialbusservice.com> wrote:
On 13 Apr 2006, at 23:25, Fred Bauder wrote:
Yes, and when I got to looking at it, some of it
was still the old
National Socialism is socialism stuff.
Yes that seemed to be the main issue when I looked.
I looked over the Socialism article and it didnt seem too bad,
especially as it is an overview article that mainly is referencing
other articles, always a hard thing to write well. Trying to add
a view that National Socialism was, er, the only real socialism
ever implemented seemed rather foolish, and out of place there.
The article needs more references, but I can see it is hard to
do this in the overview (havent yet had time to read all the
subarticles).
Justinc
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