[WikiEN-l] 18 sockpuppet attacks in two hours on my talkpage by Skyring

Tom Cadden thomcadden at yahoo.ie
Wed Oct 19 01:18:48 UTC 2005


I hate to bring this up again (yawn) but Wikipedians
may need to read the latest rant placed on my talk
page by Skyring. Apart from diluded fantasies
(apparently I'm creating sockpuppet accounts - a
bizarre allegation from someone who created 18
sockpuppets to attack my talk page with in 2 hours
(yes two hours!) A really big thanks BTW to all those
who kept reverting reverting reverting. It was
appreciated. 

He did state that, notwithstanding his ban, he is
continuing to edit Wikipedia at will, and "You've
spent several months expressing this hope that I will
leave Wikipedia and quit pointing out your errors, and
I wonder when the message will finally sink in that
it's not going to happen." 

Wikipedia clearly needs to work out some sort of
strategy for dealing with stalkers like Skyring (who
BTW is so off the wall he actually accused another
Wikipedian of physically stalking his house!!!) At
this stage he appears to be more than just a buffoon
making a fool of himself but a potential threat to
people on Wikipedia. 

Anyway - here is what he wrote. At the bottom is just
three hours of the bombardment my page is under from
that idiot. (Apologies for the length of this msg BTW
but you need to see what is going on.) 

Thom

----

+	Again, I'm glad to see you've returned to editing
here overtly. Your research is good and your edits are
generally a credit to Wikipedia, though perhaps the
less said about stuff like
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Presidential_Inauguration_%28Ireland%29&diff=15130915&oldid=15129495
this] the better!
 	+	
 	+	We need to talk about your recent behaviour. It's
not just the blast of vile hatred directed at me, it's
your behaviour as an admin that really bothers me. As
an admin you shouldn't use your powers to take part in
personal disputes, or to win edit wars. That's just
plain wrong.
 	+	
 	+	In your
[http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikien-l/2003-May/003335.html
acceptance of sysop nomination] you talk of "highest
standards of accuracy, inpartiality and correctness",
"an absolute determination NOT in any way to
personally abuse the responsibilities", and that these
are responsibilities you "would take very seriously".
 	+	
 	+	You published my personal details here on 1
September, restored them twice over when others
deleted them, locked your page in an attempt to stop
them being removed again, and when another admin
unlocked the page and removed them, you then attempted
to justify your actions
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=22301040
here]. Regardless of how you feel about me, this sort
of behaviour is never justified.
 	+	
 	+	You then logged out, created
[[User:AULDBITCH_LOVES_YOU|this sockpuppet account]],
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Mackensen&diff=prev&oldid=22363941
vandalised] another user's page, logged out again and
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:AULDBITCH_LOVES_YOU&action=history
commented] on the sockpuppet's page, claiming that I
had driven you off Wikipedia and was now attacking
another user. Then, in case nobody noticed, you
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents&diff=prev&oldid=22370295
made the same allegations] on [[WP:ANI]]. In fact,
there was no evidence at all to link me with your
actions, as an examination of your accusations
reveals.
 	+	
 	+	How do I know it was you? I can't check the IP
addresses of the sockpuppet(s) you created. But if we
look at the
[http://www.dnsstuff.com/tools/whois.ch?ip=83.71.15.181+
Dublin-based] anon's
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:Contributions&target=83.71.15.181
edits], we can find a clear link with you through
those edits of [[Talk:Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall]],
looking at the
[http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Talk:Camilla%2C_Duchess_of_Cornwall&action=history
edits made within a few minutes of another] on 23
August.
 	+	
 	+	For confirmation, I asked David Gerard, who has
access to the IPs. David looked up the IP address and
uncovered your shenanigans. Perhaps he would like to
publish his findings.
 	+	
 	+	But before we get to that stage, I'd like to ask
you to make a clean breast of it, and explain exactly
how you think you can continue to be an admin after
this sort of atrocious behaviour. Your actions are far
worse than anything I've done.
 	+	
 	+	It is clear to me, and to anyone who has followed
your career, that although you value sysop power very
highly, you put the responsibilities associated with
it at a lower priority than your own vanity.
 	+	
 	+	For that reason, although I ask for an apology to
me for all the injustices you have committed, I don't
expect to receive one. Instead I expect to see more of
your peculiar circular reasoning in the edit summaries
as you repeatedly revert this message, and when you
are finally moved to make some self-serving comment,
it will be to express the vain hope that I will give
up. You've spent several months expressing this hope
that I will leave Wikipedia and quit pointing out your
errors, and I wonder when the message will finally
sink in that it's not going to happen.
 	+	
 	+	I enjoy contributing far too much to leave the
project and apart from the usual sort of minor
spelling corrections I do to amuse myself, I've made
substantial contributions under other accounts, as I
am quite sure that David Gerard would tell you, if he
wasn't quite so discreet about revealing personal
information.
 	+	
 	+	So I'm not going to leave, and I don't expect you
to. We can make life difficult for each other, or we
can find a solution, but we aren't going to make any
progress without a bit of honesty on your part.

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# (cur) (last) 01:49, 19 October 2005 203.51.25.117
(More eyes! Anyone want to answer for Jim?)
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(We need to talk, Jim. you can't keep hiding from the
truth.)
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(While you're awake, Jim, could you take a moment to
have a word about your behaviour?)
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# (cur) (last) 00:48, 19 October 2005 143.238.245.133
(I know perfectly well what I'm doing, thanks.)
# (cur) (last) 00:47, 19 October 2005 Kiand (rv/edits
by banned user Skyring, who doesn't seem to realise
that 3RR doesn't apply when a user is banned, as their
edits are to be reverted)
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(Your persistent mindless reversion is impressive, but
aren't you getting a little close to 3RR?)
# (cur) (last) 00:42, 19 October 2005 Kiand (rv/edits
by banned user Skyring)
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(NPA, please!)
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edits by rd232)
# (cur) (last) 00:34, 19 October 2005 Kiand (rv/edits
by banned user Skyring, who obviously doesn't know the
meaning of the word 'banned', or how much of a fecking
8 year old he's acting)
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Omar)
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