[WikiEN-l] ???, indefinite block in order?

Mon Oct 17 17:48:44 UTC 2005

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> On 10/16/05, Mattwolf Binder wrote: 
> > I am not involved, and 172 supporting my RfB has nothing to do with it. In 
> > fact if you check the arbcom pages you'll see I opposed 172. But after 
> > seeing all this crap he puts up with I think that I'll end up supporting. 
> > Silverback has been attacking 172, trolling, being a level 19 revert 
> > warrior, and is all around raising the stress for everyone involved. In fact 
> > he'll probably end up in front of the arbcom, and I'm tempted to 
> > indefinitely block just to save them work. He's turning into another Tern, a 
> > user who I block for a short period of time, whines on the mailing list, 
> > doesn't seem to let up anything, and will probably end up blocked 
> > indefinitely. I'm also really tired of the political hatred and right wing 
> > POV pushing by Silverback. Would anyone object to indefinitely blocking him? 
> > 
> > --Redwolf24 
> 
> I don't think that Silverback's conduct yet reaches the level at which 
> we should be talking about a life ban. I haven't looked at the full 
> history yet, but I doubt that the ArbCom would ban him for a year (the 
> longest time ArbCom is permitted to ban a user) based on what I have 
> seen; a shorter ban of perhaps a week, a personal attack parole, and 
> perhaps some other remedies are more likely to be imposed. Perhaps we 
> should just skip the circus and ban him straightaway, but I think 
> doing so circumvents a process that we hope, perhaps naively, will 
> remediate the conduct of problem users without requiring a permanent 
> ban. 
> 
> If you want to keep this off ArbCom's docket, try actually talk to him 
> to find out what his grouse is, and then address whatever that might 
> be. This might be futile, but I would think that you, as acting chair 
> of MedCom, would be more willing to talk an issue through than lay 
> down the hard and heavy on the guy. 

I am more than willing to consider mediation.  I already
made offers for settling the dispute that haven't been
responded to on the RfC page.

172 has never tried to settle the dispute, although
that dispute is no longer active.  I made him
an offer for the future on the RfC page.

With csloat, I made an offer of a 1RR  limit for
each of us on the Saddam and al Qaeda page.

With Bishonen, we already reached a agreement as
he states, he asked me to stop and I did.

With El_C, he accepted my apology months ago.

Note, that the RfC page is supposed to be deleted
at this time, but I am still willing to resolve the 
dispute.  172 and I got along fine for months,
although on opposite sides of editing issues.
I have not received any counter offers for
settling the disputes.

        -- Silverback