[WikiEN-l] Strange and unfair RfC/user process

actionforum at comcast.net actionforum at comcast.net
Sun Oct 16 21:03:34 UTC 2005


Here are the relevant texts from the Wikipedia:Vandalism page.

[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Vandalism].  
''"Vandalism is any addition, deletion, or change to content 
made in a deliberate attempt to compromise the integrity 
of the encyclopedia "'' and ''"Changing people's comments 
Editing signed comments by another user to substantially 
change their meaning (e.g. turning someone's vote around),
 except when removing a personal attack (which is 
somewhat controversial in and of itself)"''

I think the first one, the integrity one is key.  But the
statement of dispute is signed by more than one certifier,
so in a sense you are modifying someone elses comment.
Integrity requires that the certification mean something.

                   -- Silverback

-------------- Original message -------------- 

> actionforum at comcast.net wrote: 
> 
> >He is modifing statements that have been certified by 
> >4 people, and he is basing his new accusations on my 
> >responses to items which no longer exist in the certified 
> >statement, this is completely bad faith vandalism. Two 
> >of the others have given him permission on the talk page. 
> > 
> >There is no way a procedure such as this can be fair. 
> >I am entitled to revert vandalism, that damages wikipedia's 
> >integrity, as this certified statement changing process does. 
> >He can provide is changes in different response sections 
> >if he wants. But I shouldn't have to respond to a moving 
> >target, only to have my responses orphaned by subsequent 
> >changes. 
> > 
> >If anything good can come out of this, hopefully it is reform 
> >of the system. 
> > -- Silverback 
> > 
> > 
> As has been said before I do not belive that it is vandalism. If it's 
> their own comments then they have every right to edit them. That being 
> said it is defiinately questionable to modify your comments after the 
> fact to change their meanings in response to another user's comments. 
> 
> -Jtkiefer 
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