[WikiEN-l] Conflict arising - what to do?

Sun Jun 26 02:05:28 UTC 2005

Ask any questions you like and i will answer them. I trust your judgement
after you receive my answers to anything you ask.

HK

  ----- Original Message -----
  From: "Jack Lynch"
  To: "MacGyverMagic/Mgm" , "English Wikipedia"
  Subject: Re: [WikiEN-l] Conflict arising - what to do?
  Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2005 02:56:10 +0200

  >
  > I think we need better answers. I am familar w cases like this, and
  > where they end up. How about its a large POV lobby instead of a
  single
  > user, and they are trying to POV an ancient and contentious topic,
  > chasing off any and all NPOV users who come along?
  >
  > Jack (Sam Spade)
  >
  > On 6/23/05, MacGyverMagic/Mgm wrote:
  > > If all attempts at discussion fail, you can always try dispute
  resolution.
  > >
  > > --Mgm
  > >
  > > On 6/23/05, Fred Bauder wrote:
  > > > For a start, on the talk page you might try to identify who the
  some
  > > > people are and where they say these things. If the sources for
  both
  > > > views can be identified, they can then be attributed. If the
  real
  > > > source is one of the Wikipedia editors that is more
  troublesome.
  > > >
  > > > Fred
  > > >
  > > > On Jun 22, 2005, at 8:07 PM, Habj wrote:
  > > >
  > > > > Let's say that:
  > > > >
  > > > > There is an article about a relatively controversial subject
  that, for
  > > > > some reason, has not yet been through any massive edit wars.
  Maybe the
  > > > > subject is fairly new, the word in itself is pretty new so no
  one has
  > > > > actually written much about it- until now.
  > > > >
  > > > > There are two people editing this article. You get involved a
  bit, and
  > > > > try to create what you feel is a neutral version. This makes
  one side
  > > > > immediatelly assume you belong to the Enemy. This person
  creates a
  > > > > version that says "some people say this, some people say
  that" but it
  > > > > is badly written, the reasoning is strange, it is hard to
  understand
  > > > > what he really means. Both sides are getting loud and
  argumentative,
  > > > > more concerned with being right than with what is logical and
  not. The
  > > > > subject is probably emotional to them. Maybe one side is
  louder than
  > > > > the other; maybe not.
  > > > >
  > > > > You feel that hey - this isn't going to lead anywhere.
  > > > >
  > > > > What do you do? Do you just leave the article and let them
  fight? But
  > > > > then, what happens if all the "good forces" just leave
  whenever
  > > > > problem arises? Should you ask someone to try and talk to
  these
  > > > > people? Is there a standard way of handling things like this,
  or is
  > > > > the only thing to do to stay away and wait until things are
  so bad
  > > > > that the article gets locked?
  > > > >
  > > > > /Habj
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