[WikiEN-l] Recent goings-on

Wed Jun 1 20:05:04 UTC 2005

Hey, thats me! Your talking about ME! Oh wait, thats not a good thing...

Jack (Sam Spade)

On 6/1/05, BJörn Lindqvist <bjourne at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >There are a number of administrators who are failing in that
> > >responsibility, and they are present on this list.
> >
> > Name them.  Take them to ArbCom.
> 
> Total Bullshit. That has been done many times by new users who was
> harassed my some overly aggressive admins. Ofcourse they never suceed
> because the rules are complex and setup to protect the administrators.
> 
> First you have to "file a complaint" which means you have to gather
> evidence and then submit that for public review to get the ArbCom to
> accept it. Then you need to get someone else to sign your complaint
> within 24 hours or else your complaint is automatically rejected and
> 20 seconds later some admin will come around and delete it so that all
> traces of whatever it was is gone. The person seconding your complaint
> obviously cannot be a user someone can suspect being a sockpuppet or a
> troll or "a known troublemaker". And most important, the other user
> must also be involved in the dispute between you and the admin in
> question.
> 
> And then, if you succeed with all that, your complaint is accepted for
> further review in the ArbCom! Woho! Then all that is left is for you
> to fight in the Wikipedia version of a trial against someone who knows
> all the rules, while you are a newbie and has lots of powerful friends
> while you only have enemies.
> 
> But what if you, like a hero in Hollywood, manages to beat the
> unbeatable, win the unwinnable and actually get the ArbCom to issue
> some kind of verdict AGAINST the admin in question? Well, then you'll
> forever be known as a troublemaker/troll and the admin will be quickly
> forgiven by his or her peers because "he/she is a good guy" and only
> made a mistake/got played by the trolls.
> 
> --
> mvh Björn
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