[WikiEN-l] Re: Merry Christmas from Daniel Brandt (David Gerard)

Sat Dec 31 18:22:44 UTC 2005

Hey -- I agree completely on its utility! I love the site myself! But let's
not pretend that there aren't some major copyright questions with mirroring
the content of the entire internet and making it available to everyone who
wants it.

FF

On 12/30/05, MacGyverMagic/Mgm <macgyvermagic at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Some sites get taken down because people fail to pay their fees or
> simply because they break. In such cases it's good to have a
> independant place be a back up.
>
> Mgm
>
> On 12/30/05, Fastfission <fastfission at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Technically they are, of course, doing just that (and even worse at
> times --
> > one can often use the Wayback Machine to get free access to articles
> which
> > were posted by magazines and newspapers free for a limited amount of
> time
> > and then turned into paying-archival links). They even have a little bit
> > about it on their FAQ page saying they'll happily remove things which
> people
> > consider IP violations. Personally I think they are just fortunate that
> most
> > people don't know about them and it takes some rooting around to get
> content
> > out of them.
> >
> > Don't get me wrong -- I think it's a wonderful service and an amazing
> tool.
> > But let's not claim that there isn't a major copyright issue with
> keeping
> > full-site archives of other people's content with the happy intent of
> making
> > it available even if the site itself has been taken down or turned into
> a
> > pay-for-content site. If its capabilities became well-known (and perhaps
> if
> > its servers weren't perpetually down!) they'd be served up DMCA takedown
> > requests every day, I reckon.
> >
> > FF
> >
> > On 12/29/05, Anthony DiPierro <wikilegal at inbox.org> wrote:
> > >
> > > > David Gerard <fun at thingy.apana.org.au>:
> > > > The takedown provisions of the DMCA are a matter of
> > > > great concern, but
> > > > a
> > > > DMCA notice when someone is pretty damned clearly
> > > > *ripping off your
> > > > stuff* is IMO quite morally sound.
> > > >
> > > Better send a DMCA notice to Internet Archive too, as they're "clearly
> > > *ripping off your stuff*" at
> > >
> > >
> http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://chuma.cas.usf.edu/~rfernand/index2.html
> > >
> > > Anthony
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