[WikiEN-l] My complaint about being blocked. Now you can compare...

Fri Dec 16 20:46:33 UTC 2005

hello, quick amendments:

"It made no contributions elsewhere, even to the Talk: page of the article 
in question"
    This has been well explained in the following of my message, it is a 
fine wiki-ethical usage all along. This is a truncation you're reading, rely 
on full version instead. (posted here 40 minutes before Jay's, your time)

"and certainly appeared to be a revert sockpuppet"
    It wasn't, and didn't appear as such then, as I explained in my message.
 Please don't  resort to "it's our experience that..." kind of argument; 
we're not meant to guess. The number of possible logical cases of behavours 
identical to mine while not being a internet sockpuppet is so high that in 
25000 years time one still wouldn't have digested it. That you are 'not used 
to forsee' such or such is of no importance, concerning the veracity of 
being a such said sockpuppet. It may change a bit for the explanation of 
Jay's behaviour yes, reacting to some 'well known pattern', well known by a 
particuliar 'Wikipedia' staff and time etc., but changes stricly nothing on 
whether it is actual sockpupetting, created solely for the... etc.

"Moreover, the subject of this article (Israel Shamir) has been consistently 
vandalizing it"
    Not at all. See talk, see history; Shamir just intervened some three or 
five times if memory serves, weeks or months ago, civil and compliant at 
that. In fact we have one, possibly multiple, swift reverts from Jayjg 
and/or this Denis Diderot fame-seeker (shame-finder) without one word of an 
explanation, I repeat, without one word of explanation.

"He also appealed for friends of his to come and revert the article for him 
on a Yahoo group called Shamir readers:"
    It makes no mention of reverts.

"Even if this editor is not a sockpuppet, I'm quite skeptical that this 
userid was created with Wikipedia's goals and policies in mind. > Jay."
    Black magic again.

I'm not wild-eyed by this all comrades, and Jay is not the devil incarnate. 
But I'm hurt and there should not be such a quasi-fetichist way for a 
wiki-reaction.
So I'm waiting for good outcome, so I'm patient.
l'Omnivore Sobriquet

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "JAY JG" <jayjg at hotmail.com>
To: <wikien-l at Wikipedia.org>
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 7:22 PM
Subject: RE: [WikiEN-l] My complaint about being blocked.

>
>
>>From: "l'Omnivore Sobriquet" <omnivore.sobriquet at wanadoo.fr>
>>My complaint about being blocked.
>>
>>Friday, 16 December 05
>>
>>                 Messieurs,
>>
>>I would like to register here my full disagreement about being blocked 
>>from Wikipedia. This is unfair, and as I appreciate it, unjustified.
>>
>>My IP address is 83.205.136.21.
>>
>>My user name is "L'Omnivore Sobriquet", and on Wednesday 14th of Dec I got 
>>blocked at 22:03 (Wiki time), with the message :
>>
>>  "Your user name or IP address has been blocked by Jayjg.
>>The reason given is:
>>revert sockpuppet"
>>
>>Moderator Jayjg replied to my call for justifications with the single line 
>>:
>>
>>  "You appear to be a userid created solely for the purpose of reverting 
>> articles; that is what your edits consist of.
>>
>>Jay. "
>
> The userid made exactly two edits, both of them reverts of the same page, 
> Israel Shamir.  It made no contributions elsewhere, even to the Talk: page 
> of the article in question, and certainly appeared to be a revert 
> sockpuppet.  Moreover, the subject of this article (Israel Shamir) has 
> been consistently vandalizing it, in ways with which we have become all 
> too familiar.  He also appealed for friends of his to come and revert the 
> article for him on a Yahoo group called Shamir readers:
>
> From: Israel Shamir <ishamir at ...>
> Date: Sat Nov 26, 2005 12:12 pm
> Subject: Wiki ish314
>
> Dear friend, if you have time, you may help to fight a small internet war 
> over Wikipedia, a popular website with many links. Obviously it is as 
> dominated by philosemites as any other media, and they consistently 
> demonise me in the entry: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel_Shamir When 
> I, or some friends correct their most blatant lies, they change it back in 
> no time at all. Afterwards, they refer to their own lies as if it is an 
> objective source. Everybody can add, remove and edit any entry in the 
> Wiki. I call those who has available time to make an effort and to 
> re-conquer the site from philosemites. Shamir
>
> Even if this editor is not a sockpuppet, I'm quite skeptical that this 
> userid was created with Wikipedia's goals and policies in mind.
>
> Jay.
>
>
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