[WikiEN-l] SPOV threatens NPOV

Thu Dec 15 10:31:03 UTC 2005

Chris Jenkinson wrote:

> Ray Saintonge wrote:
>
>> Chris Jenkinson wrote:
>>
>>> Ray Saintonge wrote:
>>>
>>>> Your statement that "the other ideas are normally all wrong" is a 
>>>> POV.  If your criticism depends on a POV then it too is a POV.  A 
>>>> scientific experiment that shows something to be wrong is not the 
>>>> same as one that fails to show it right.  To say that something 
>>>> which is not science is necessarily pseudoscience is a textbook 
>>>> application of the fallacy of [[False dilemma]].
>>>
>>> I never made such an assertion (that all non-science is 
>>> pseudoscience). I said that pseudoscience is often wrong. So could 
>>> you give me an example of a pseudoscience which is actually 'right'? 
>>
>> Your request is illogical.  It asks for something right  when it is 
>> wrong by definition.  If I see something as "right" I would not call 
>> it pseudoscience.
>
> Exactly - so how is it POV to demonstrate in an article why a 
> pseudoscience is wrong? 

Because you had to characterize it as pseudoscience in the first place.

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