[WikiEN-l] Turn off AfD

Fri Dec 9 18:06:23 UTC 2005

Replacing AfD means instead of a decision being located in a central spot
where it is open and accountable, you will have decisions being made by one
or two people. You will then end up with hellacious disputes at Undeletion
and accusations of Admins acting in bad faith.

While there may be grounds for expanding the Criteria for Speedy deletion,
there are always going to be cases where more careful consideration is
required.

Regards

Keith Old

User:Capitalistroadster

On 12/10/05, Anthony DiPierro <wikilegal at inbox.org> wrote:

On 12/9/05, geni <geniice at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 12/9/05, Snowspinner <Snowspinner at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Is this another one of those things we're asserting by blanket
> > > default without evidence?
> > >
> > > -Phil
> >
> > Never is going too far but it should very much be an option of last
> > resort. There are a number of reasons why it is a bad idea:
> >
> > 1.Shortage of admin manpower. Remeber those stats that came out last
> > month? We have maybe 200 admins reasonably active in an admin capacity
> >
> If everyone wants something deleted, an admin is going to delete it
> anyway.  Not putting the article through AfD first *reduces* the
> manpower required by everyone, and doesn't affect the manpower
> required by admins.
>
> > 2. Adminship is meant to be no big deal. I would prefer it if people
> > stoped trying to make it so
> >
> Adding a new criterion for speedy deletion doesn't make adminship a big
> deal.
>
> > 3.The constantly riseing standards at WP:RFA are not going to be
> > helped by increaseing admin responcibilities/powers.
> >
> Again, I don't understand this.  The new criteria for deletion should
> still be cut and dry.
>
> > 4.It appears that we may be getting more wheel wars. Increaseing the
> > number of subjective descissions will not help that.
> > --
> > geni
>
> Yes, you've confused what I've said.  I think we should add more
> *objective* criteria to the speedy deletion candidates, not
> *subjective* ones.  Turning off AfD for a while would cause that to
> happen.
>
> Anthony
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