[WikiEN-l] NPOV trainwreck

Mon Dec 5 22:37:59 UTC 2005

Jack, in my experience when editors involved in a case doesn't see it going 
the way they want, they almost inevitably claim that one or more of the 
arbitrators is biased against them, based on some long-standing (but 
undocumented) hatred for them.  It's not quite as common for them to claim 
there is a vast community consensus supporting their viewpoint - I give you 
credit for having the chutzpah to do the latter.

Regards,

Jay.

>From: Sam Spade <samspade.thomasjefferson at googlemail.com>
>
>I am making a very specific accusation: Due to a long history of
>conflict with myself, JAYJG has no ability to be neutral in this case.
>His lack of recusal is far more striking than that of Fred Bauder.
>Both of them, along w other obvious concerns (Kelly Martin) makes this
>case a very bad precedent regarding recusals.
>
>Sam Spade
>
>On 12/5/05, JAY JG <jayjg at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > No, Fred, he's making a much broader accusation; in fact a series of 
>broad
> > accusations unsupported by any evidence.
> >
> > Jay.
> >
> > >From: Fred Bauder <fredbaud at ctelco.net>
> > >
> > >He is referring to my disclosure that I may have briefly encountered  
>Chip
> > >Berlet when I was in the National Lawyers Guild. I did not  recuse on 
>that
> > >basis as there was very little if any actual  connection between us. I
> > >don't think membership or even active  participation in the National
> > >Lawyers Guild  forms a basis for  recusal as there are a number of 
>reasons
> > >why people join the National  Lawyers Guild and participate in it. 
>Other
> > >than involvement in legal  work there is absolutely no test for 
>membership.
> > >Successful  participation is another story. I soon found out that since 
>I
> > >did not  support the Gang of Four I was considered chopped liver.
> > >
> > >Fred
> > >
> > >On Dec 5, 2005, at 10:57 AM, JAY JG wrote:
> > >
> > >>Please don't try to re-direct the questions, Jack, and please don't  
>try
> > >>to make them about me.  You made insinuations about the  Arbitration
> > >>Committee, please clarify.  I'll repeat the questions:
> > >>
> > >>1. Do you think that the Committee is trying to "purge right wingers"?
> > >>2. Do you imagine that there are no "right wingers" on the  Committee
> > >>itself?
> > >>3. Why would you insinuate that Cberlet is any more the "friend and
> > >>colleague" of members of the Arbitration Committee than are any of  
>the
> > >>other parties to the case?
> > >>
> > >>Jay.
> > >
> >
> >
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