[WikiEN-l] NPOV trainwreck

Mon Dec 5 21:43:29 UTC 2005

I tell you guys what I'd like, and what I'd be perfectly happy w.

How about we put this case on hold until after the "elections", or
whatever. That will give Nobs a chance to ruin or redeem himself (so
you can ban him for a month or a year/lifetime as appropriate). It
will also force Cberlet to interact on a civil basis ''before'' the
case is over. And it will give an end to any complaints of
impropriety. It strikes me as an "everybody wins" situation.

Sam Spade

On 12/5/05, Sam Spade <samspade.thomasjefferson at googlemail.com> wrote:
> I am making a very specific accusation: Due to a long history of
> conflict with myself, JAYJG has no ability to be neutral in this case.
> His lack of recusal is far more striking than that of Fred Bauder.
> Both of them, along w other obvious concerns (Kelly Martin) makes this
> case a very bad precedent regarding recusals.
>
> Sam Spade
>
> On 12/5/05, JAY JG <jayjg at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > No, Fred, he's making a much broader accusation; in fact a series of broad
> > accusations unsupported by any evidence.
> >
> > Jay.
> >
> > >From: Fred Bauder <fredbaud at ctelco.net>
> > >
> > >He is referring to my disclosure that I may have briefly encountered  Chip
> > >Berlet when I was in the National Lawyers Guild. I did not  recuse on that
> > >basis as there was very little if any actual  connection between us. I
> > >don't think membership or even active  participation in the National
> > >Lawyers Guild  forms a basis for  recusal as there are a number of reasons
> > >why people join the National  Lawyers Guild and participate in it. Other
> > >than involvement in legal  work there is absolutely no test for membership.
> > >Successful  participation is another story. I soon found out that since I
> > >did not  support the Gang of Four I was considered chopped liver.
> > >
> > >Fred
> > >
> > >On Dec 5, 2005, at 10:57 AM, JAY JG wrote:
> > >
> > >>Please don't try to re-direct the questions, Jack, and please don't  try
> > >>to make them about me.  You made insinuations about the  Arbitration
> > >>Committee, please clarify.  I'll repeat the questions:
> > >>
> > >>1. Do you think that the Committee is trying to "purge right wingers"?
> > >>2. Do you imagine that there are no "right wingers" on the  Committee
> > >>itself?
> > >>3. Why would you insinuate that Cberlet is any more the "friend and
> > >>colleague" of members of the Arbitration Committee than are any of  the
> > >>other parties to the case?
> > >>
> > >>Jay.
> > >
> >
> >
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