[WikiEN-l] It is a sign.

Wed Apr 27 11:13:38 UTC 2005

Seems the list is run by " ultrablue at gmail.com, dgerard at gmail.com, 
andrew.lih at gmail.com, fennec at gmail.com, ed.poor at att.net" WHo have 
no problem manipulating the user base.

Interestingly I haven't seen any sign of there explanation of for hat matter 
anything else. Seems a but antisoial to me.

Check Violet Rigas mod to the "Grand National", for her own reasons she 
has decide it is in Liverpool. WHen actually due to little things like 
boroughs etc it is actualy in Sefton.

You can check 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incid
entArchive1#3RR_at_the_troubled_Clitoris_article

"

Her is a typical rant fro
John Bradley (john at ontobus.co.uk) [050423 00:50]:

> I think it is everyone who cares about Wikipedia as an encyclopedia
> rather than a social club stepped forward and be counted.

Personal attacks toward other editors are not tolerated because they drive
other volunteers away from editing. This is bad for Wikipedia. 

Really. I pretty much don't care how much of an expert a given editor is -
if they're acting like an arsehole and making editing an unpleasant
experience for others, we don't need them. There are PLENTY of really
quite high-grade experts editing Wikipedia who don't in fact act like
arseholes.

(This does, however, require a more than usual tolerance for and patience
with stupid fellow volunteers amongst the experts in question, and
occasional annoying having to prove things from first principles on talk
pages when the well-meaning idjit doesn't get it. This is quite a bit less
than ideal, and we need ways to deal with it, but it still isn't an excuse
for personal attacks.)

Note that Irate, the user in question, has not shown even this level of
justification for his streams of personal attacks.

- d.
"
.

As for my address. I thnk you should stop worrying less.

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> John Bradley wrote:
> 
> >Perhaps you can explain why I am required to act in this way but not the 
> >likes of Violet Riga, Matt Crypto or lots of other people.
> >
> >  
> >
> They are too. Do you have examples of when they have done this?
> 
> >My annoyance started when Violet Riga got me blocked on a totally 
> >spurious request and has both not been punished and has nor apologized. 
> >It is referenced earlier on, in the thread.
> >
> >  
> >
> Which one?
> 
> >I am quiet happy to have all my stuff up there provided other peoples is 
> >subject to the same conditions, but that does not seem to be the case.
> >
> >  
> >
> I'd like to see some of these violations.
> 
> >For instance I am chastised for not replying to people were as David 
> >Gerrard and most of the members of the arbcomm feel that they do not 
> >have to reply.
> >
> >  
> >
> Sorry, can't answer that without a reference.
> 
> >Or for instance why Pcpcpc would use a sock puppet to perform edits of 
> >extremely dubious quality and then not explain why he acted the way he 
> >did.
> >
> >  
> >
> Unfortunately tracking sockpuppets is quite difficult. Can you provide a 
> diff?
> 
> >As for spam, the address is on several WWW sites as a contact so it is 
> >virtually impossible to make it worse and Spamihilator seems up to the job. 
> >I've also had this email for about 15 years now, which also means it is well 
> >known.
> >
> >  
> >
> My concern about your address is about your *residential* address.
> 
> >You'll find I have used a spell checker but there is no guarantee that word 
> >correctly spelt is the right word.
> >
> >  
> >
> Spell checkers are notoriously innaccurate. They also can't check grammar.
> 
> -- 
> Alphax
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