[WikiEN-l] Re: Lir, Brion, Ed and Jeronim :-)

Tue Jun 29 09:48:25 UTC 2004

Anthere wrote:
> Lir is currently asking for clarification for her ban from the english 
> wikipedia, on the wikipedia-l. I do not think this is a topic for 
> wikipedia-l.
> However, after I mentionned that to her, she answered she was banned 
> from english wikipedia, from wikien-l and from irc, so wikipedia-l was 
> the last place she could discuss her ban.
>  
> I am sorry to ask this, but I would prefer that Lir presents her defense 
> on the english wikipedia mailing list, since it is an english wikipedia 
> issue. I do not think all languages have to be involved in local issues 
> discussion. I do not think Lir ban is a wikipedia wide topic of 
> discussion :-)
>  
> Now, it has been going on for such a long time that I do not know what 
> is the current status of Lir, with regards to her being allowed to edit.
> Did the AC pronounced her banned ? For which duration ?
> Is she really banned from the english mailing list ? Why was she ? Is it 
> permanent ? Who decide who is banned from a list ?
> Is she really banned from irc as well ? Why ? Is it permanent ?

The following email addresses are banned from wikien-l:

lilianmatos at concite.sadistics.com
dreday1207 at mail15.com
jewel_tay771 at netzero.com
plautus at shaw.ca

Lir's a[name omitted for privacy reasons] at msn address doesn't seem to be subscribed to either 
wikien-l or wikipedia-l, nor is it banned, so I can only assume the 
posts were queued for moderation. If he's having trouble subscribing, he 
can email me and I'll subscribe him using the administrative interface.

The current ban list for #wikipedia is:

creak!*@*
Editing*!*@*

A username ban on IRC is not a serious barrier to entry, just a hint 
that the person in question is not wanted. I imagine Lir is referring to 
the Editing* ban, which is odd since he denies being that person.

> I would have liked to go and see whether she was blocked or not on the 
> english mailing list.
> However, I do not have any admin access to the mailing lists any more 
> since Fire reorganised everything. Not even to the lists I administrated 
> myself for a while :-)

Have you asked Fire for access?

> As far as I know, only 3 people have admin access now, brion, ed poor 
> and jeronim.
> So, brion, ed and jeronim, could one of you please check if Lir has 
> access or not ?

Now, you know how much I dislike seeing my name not mentioned, so I just 
had to reply to this :) I'm pretty sure Fire sent the new administrator 
password to all the people with shell access. Anyone with root access 
could administer the lists by just changing the password temporarily.

> If Lir does not have access, who is willing to discuss with Lir offline ?

Lir is a liar. The technical evidence strongly suggests he's the same 
person as "Editing Saddam Hussein".

-- Tim Starling