[WikiEN-l] Response to Jack Lynch

Thu Jun 3 14:57:56 UTC 2004

 --- On Thu 06/03, Abe Sokolov < abesokolov at hotmail.com > wrote:
From: Abe Sokolov [mailto: abesokolov at hotmail.com]
To: wikien-l at Wikipedia.org
Date: Thu, 03 Jun 2004 11:26:38 +0000
Subject: [WikiEN-l] Response to Jack Lynch 

Re: "I don't feel 172 is reliable in regards to contentious issues" Why? Are you able to offer any evidence from my user history that I have insisted on the contribution of material that is inaccurate? If so, I'd appreciate it if you brought it to my attention, as I emphatically oppose the addition of dubious content on Wikipedia. That's what I do. How would you like it if I made that claim about you on the mailing list? To take this on the mailing list with no basis for making this claim, in a context that knowingly will diminish a user's credibility among a wide readership to me is the most debasing form of attack there is. These kinds of statements might be superficially "civil" in tone, but they're the remarks that truly do the most to spread mistrust and animosity among Wikipedia users. When I make off the cuff remarks on talk pages, they're brushed off and dismissed, as they should be. But the remarks that truly impugn a user's credibility and integrity aren't. But perhaps that was your point.

I have found you unreliable in some areas of politics or history because of your demeanor, not because of some specific factual inaccuracy.<br> Yours is a matter of POV, rudeness, and haughtiness, not one of fraud, falsification, or incompetance.<br>  I understand that you feel that your expertise invalidates concerns of POV, or asigns you a superior intellectual status, but I assure you that you are mistaken.<br>  That being said I have slowly noticed the general quality of your edits, and that gives me some reason to strive to see past your partisan persona.<br>  The spiteful and uncompromising condescension which I encountered the first time we disagreed was not my first impression of you actually.<br> You made a fine impression, complimentary and pleasant when first we spoke, as I was seconding a self-nomination you placed as a brilliant prose candidate.<br> Jack<br><br>

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