[WikiEN-l] Re: HOWTOs/Recipes/Instructions and other imperative content

Tue Feb 24 01:21:04 UTC 2004

Perhap I am misunderstood. I think all the deletions of recipes and how-to's
is too strict and decreases rather than increases the encyclopedia's utility
to casual users and readers.

Fred

> From: Anthere <anthere8 at yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: anthere8 at yahoo.com, English Wikipedia <wikien-l at Wikipedia.org>
> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 01:23:24 +0100
> To: wikien-l at wikipedia.org
> Subject: [WikiEN-l] Re: HOWTOs/Recipes/Instructions and other imperative
> content
> 
> I understand that.
> Sorry if I am not relaxed, but I can't get it.
> I might be more relaxed if the french cooking recipees were not moved
> out of this encyclopedia, some with no links left to the recipee itself,
> not to mention cases where the article is just plain deleted.
> Some of these recipees have encyclopedic value, they are typical
> examples of a certain way of life, they are typical examples of cooking
> techniques. Just a dozen of recipees do not impair the quality of highly
> cultural articles, at least no more than the thousand of tiny american
> city articles. We have room. It is not because another project is about
> cooking that cooking should just disappear from Wikipedia. Plus it
> breaks international links, for other wikipedias consider recipees have
> value. Plus it is unnice for all the contributors (often newbies) who
> wrote the recipee, and who do not find articles any more.
> How do these few dozens recipees bother any one ? When they are famous
> dishes, they should not be deleted. That is bad. This is destroying
> information. We *have* room. And some believe this is valuable information.
> 
> And the solution is not to go claim consensus and update policies when
> someone try to discuss the matter.
> 
> Thinking about it, a bit of promotion :-)
> 
> This page is directly linked from our front page. It should be enriched,
> but well, you will get the idea I think
> 
> http://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recettes_du_mois
> 
> Isnot that neat ?
> 
> Ant
> 
> Fred Bauder a écrit:
>> This always seemed wrong to me. I'd like to see a whole lot more relaxed
>> attitude.
>> 
>> Fred
>> 
>> 
>>> From: Anthere <anthere8 at yahoo.com>
>>> Reply-To: anthere8 at yahoo.com, English Wikipedia <wikien-l at Wikipedia.org>
>>> Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 00:39:54 +0100
>>> To: wikien-l at wikipedia.org
>>> Subject: [WikiEN-l] Re: HOWTOs/Recipes/Instructions and other imperative
>>> content
>>> 
>>> That seems like a very convoluted set of sentences; But, whatever the
>>> wording, many people expressed that they did not agree with such a
>>> policy. So, please, do not add it to what wikipedia is not, in order to
>>> ban recipes thereafter. There is no consensus on this, and several
>>> people expressed the feeling some recipees are perfectly okay to wikipedia.
>>> 
>>> Typically, rules that are set with no consensus are rules that I do not
>>> respect :-)
>>> 
>>> David Friedland a écrit:
>>> 
>>>> The following seems to be the general idea that people have about how-to
>>>> type content on Wikipedia. i.e. that it belongs on wikibooks, not
>>>> wikipedia. I couldn't find anywhere where this was written out as
>>>> policy, so this is my proposed addition to [[What Wikipedia is not]]:
>>>> 
>>>> Under what Wikipedia articles are not:
>>>> * Instructions. Wikipedia seeks to be informative, not instructional.
>>>> Therefore, things like how-tos, recipes, and other types of information
>>>> that provide instruction on something are not appropriate on Wikipedia.
>>>> They are appropriate, however, on Wikibooks, and articles that contain
>>>> only instructional material should be moved to the appropriate area on
>>>> Wikibooks. It is possible that information about instructions are
>>>> appropriate on Wikipedia, but it should be presented in the indicative
>>>> mood, and not the imperative mood that so distinctively marks
>>>> instructional material.
>>>> 
>>>> I know the wording is a little weak, but it's my first attempt.
>>>> 
>>>> Since the WikiEN-l is for discussing policy, I thought I'd bring it up
>>>> here.
>>>> 
>>>> - David
>>> 
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