[WikiEN-l] Original research

Wed Dec 1 06:02:30 UTC 2004

Original research is banned.
Ec may disagree with that policy, and he's welcome to propose a change
to that, but that's how the policy stands at present

-- ambi

On Tue, 30 Nov 2004 20:30:07 +0000, R E Broadley
<20041111 at stardate.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Ray
> 
> Thanks for your reply. I've recently heard that one of the things that
> Wikipedia is not is that it is not a place for "original research". I
> accepted this once I heard it, but your last sentence now has me
> wondering if the opinion on this is split.
> 
> Can we add content that is unproven by the wider scientific community
> with a boilerplate, or is it barred altogether?
> 
> Cheers,
> Ed
> 
> Ray Saintonge wrote:
> 
> > If we accept only the opinion of experts we end up putting ourselves
> > into an elitist box, and that strikes me as very un-wiki.  Ultimately,
> > the facts should speak for themselves without regard to who is
> > expressing them.
> >
> > Proponents of mainstream "science" ofte go to great effort to
> > discredit ideas which appear contrary to their own, and in doing so
> > can manage to make themselves look even more foolish than the people
> > whom they are confronting..  It is not necessary to pepper an article
> > through with  "they believe . . " or "the discredited idea that . .
> > .", etc.  The first burden of proof in a scientific concept rests with
> > the proponents.  If they fail to carry that burden then there is
> > nothing there for the opponents to disprove.  For many of these
> > articles a simple piece of boilerplate, perhaps as the second
> > paragraph, should be enough to satisfy NPOV.  It could read, "The
> > subject of this article is considered unproven by the wider scientific
> > community.  Users relying on the information in this article do so at
> > their own risk."
> >
> > Keeping things simple can save a lot of flames.
> > Ec
> 
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