--- Adam Raizen <araizen(a)newmail.net> wrote:
Steve Vertigum wrote:
The statistics already exist; I don't have the
means
to do my own poll.
Huh?
Now it's just a question of whether to add them
to
Wikipedia, and if so,
in what form and with what explanation.
Add what -- the new statistics that "already exist"
but you cant find, or the backup ones from a
controversial POV source?
So far,
you're the only one to
object,
No Im not. I came into this thread after a couple
people raised questions.
and not on any specific reason to distrust
the statistics, but
just on a general distrust of Israel. For the nth
time, this will be
explained in detail in an article linked to from the
bot's articles.
This isnt good enough--you cant simply add statistics
from Hamas and stipulate these with a buried link to
an article which explains that "these stats may not be
NPOV"
Ah. Such
effortless effort should be noted for its
notability.
What exactly are you objecting to?
The use of a bot to add Israeli government statistics,
which we proved a few letters ago was not NPOV, and
also was an apartheid state, which among decent
thoughful people tends to raise a flag or two.
I'm not avoiding the issue. I've posted
explanations
of the demographic
categories in a couple of different messages, and
I'll expand upon that
in the article which will be linked to from all the
bot-generated
articles. If you can't find the explanations, I'll
collect them and
repost them. If you have any specific objections,
I'd like to hear them.
If you have any specific questions that I haven't
answered, ask away.
Im not the kind of guy to get sidetracked with
specifics-- I am the kind to state some obvious
things--that NPOV would be violated if we added
POV-based data en masse.
Add it by hand if you want-- let each stand up to
scrutiny.
As I understand it, in Israel-- even the names of
towns and cities is a often a question of POV.
Of course, it will be a very simple matter to have a
bot go around and
correct/update these articles, if needed (much
simpler than creating the
articles in the first place).
I love how you say "we can take care of it easy and
simple"--just sign on the line--- You sound like a
politician, young man.
"We're" not pinching
our collective nose
at anything. I think that you need a better
objection than just a
general dislike for Israel.
Its not a "general dislike" --(dont start that
pottytalk with me--or at least use LD's <rant> tags)--
its an nose for the smell of POV disguised as a field
of "statistics", boosted en mass, up the rear end of
the WP. The WP does'nt necessarily object to this
course of entry, provided the proper prophylactic
measures have been secured. (We dont want to catch any
POV in other words) You could might as well name it
the POV-BOT, since were all friends here.
WikiLove be upon you and your progeny,
~S~
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