[WikiEN-l] Wikiquette "committee"

Thu Oct 2 23:05:56 UTC 2003

I think that Erik's suggestions here have great merit, and I'd like to
open the floor to a discussion.  Obviously, he's given a fair amount
of detail, and I may not want to adopt all of the detail that he's
suggested, but I think in broad outline we're going to have to move to
something like this.

--Jimbo

Erik Moeller wrote:

> Jimmy-
> > It seems likely that he's angry enough to never come back anyway, in
> > which case we can all just talk about how to best avoid this sort of
> > thing in the future.
> 
> Ban faster? :-)
> 
> Seriously, I don't see how you can avoid dealing with problematic persons,  
> and I don't see how the persons attacked by RK should have acted any  
> differently, and I still think that a temporary ban was the best action in  
> this case. There are some people who believe that I am somehow working on  
> a grand strategy to usurp power on Wikipedia, which is kind of funny,  
> because the first thing I would do it if I had it is democratize  
> everything ;-).
> 
> We should avoid developing too much of a behavioral double standard. RK  
> was tolerated because he contributed good material. But how much good  
> material has not been contributed because of his well documented  
> behavioral problems? In my opinion, we need to set clearer rules on  
> Wikiquette and be serious about enforcing them, with a well-defined  
> protocol of warning, temporary banning, permanent banning etc. Maybe there  
> could be a 5-10 member Wikiquette "committee" where violations could be  
> reported and decisions would be made by voting. By making it proprietary  
> (totally unwiki, but so is reporting directly to you) we can avoid having  
> the lists and talk pages cluttered up with these complaints and can make  
> sure that users will not have to fear repercussions for reporting  
> Wikiquette violations.
> 
> Implementation wise, this could be a mailing list with non-member posting  
> rights (perhaps with a web-based submission interface to avoid spam --  
> this could actually be done inside Wikipedia by creating a fake user with  
> that email address and using the "Email this user" feature, how about  
> [[User:Mediator]]?). Right now, it's really difficult for users to deal  
> with insults and personal attacks. I would love to be able to say in 5-10  
> years that the discussion climate on Wikipedia is the best anywhere on the  
> Internet.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Erik
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