From mharris at visionbankcard.net  Thu Dec  1 00:17:35 2005
From: mharris at visionbankcard.net (Harris, Mike)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:17:35 -0700
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Importing a wiki
Message-ID: <2158C5EC5B6D9A47A23F60620F1ABEE71C5CF6@ex1.visiongrp.local>

I am trying to port my wiki on a new computer.  To do this I simply
dumped by database and then recreated it on my new database on the new
computer.  I then tried to simply run the install script from a fresh
wiki installation.  I get the following error:

 

A database error has occurred
Query: INSERT INTO `old`
(old_namespace,old_title,old_text,old_comment,old_user,old_user_text,old
_timestamp,inverse_timestamp) SELECT
cur_namespace,cur_title,cur_text,cur_comment,cur_user,cur_user_text,cur_
timestamp,99999999999999-cur_timestamp FROM `cur` WHERE
cur_namespace='8' AND cur_title='1movedto2'
Function: Article::quickEdit
Error: 1146 Table 'wikidb.old' doesn't exist (localhost)

 

The entire installation script appears as follows:

 

...linkscc table already exists.
...hitcounter table already exists.
...querycache table already exists.
...objectcache table already exists.
...categorylinks table already exists.
...logging table already exists.
...user_rights table already exists.
...have ipb_id field in ipblocks table.
...have ipb_expiry field in ipblocks table.
...have rc_type field in recentchanges table.
...have rc_ip field in recentchanges table.
...have rc_id field in recentchanges table.
...have rc_patrolled field in recentchanges table.
...have user_real_name field in user table.
...have user_token field in user table.
...have ur_user field in user_rights table.
...have log_params field in logging table.
...have ss_total_pages field in site_stats table.
...already have interwiki table
...indexes seem up to 20031107 standards
...linkscc is up to date, or does not exist. Good.
Converting links table to ID-ID...
Schema already converted
...image primary key already set.
Logging table has correct title encoding.
...cur_id covering index already exists.
Initialising "MediaWiki" namespace...
A database error has occurred
Query: INSERT INTO `old`
(old_namespace,old_title,old_text,old_comment,old_user,old_user_text,old
_timestamp,inverse_timestamp) SELECT
cur_namespace,cur_title,cur_text,cur_comment,cur_user,cur_user_text,cur_
timestamp,99999999999999-cur_timestamp FROM `cur` WHERE
cur_namespace='8' AND cur_title='1movedto2'
Function: Article::quickEdit
Error: 1146 Table 'wikidb.old' doesn't exist (localhost)
 
Backtrace:
GlobalFunctions.php line 524 calls wfBacktrace()
Database.php line 383 calls wfDebugDieBacktrace()
Database.php line 333 calls Database::reportQueryError()
Database.php line 1203 calls Database::query()
Article.php line 2134 calls Database::insertSelect()
InitialiseMessages.inc line 192 calls Article::quickEdit()
InitialiseMessages.inc line 78 calls initialiseMessagesReal()
updaters.inc line 218 calls initialiseMessages()
index.php line 539 calls do_all_updates()

 

 

Can anyone help me out or suggest a better way of porting my wiki over?

 

Thanks,

Mike



From judi_chen at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  1 01:05:21 2005
From: judi_chen at yahoo.com (judi chen)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:05:21 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Need help can someone help THANKS
Message-ID: <20051201010521.58221.qmail@web52312.mail.yahoo.com>


Hi, ALL
I was asking this question for about a week.  Can
someone help?

I am running mediawiki 1.5.2 on Fedora core 4.

I try to have TeX implemented.  I read the 'Enable
TeX' on meta and the README file in the math
directory.

I have all the external programs installed and tested.
The command line texve seems working well.

For example, by executing the following command in the
math directory
./texvc /var/www/wiki/images/tmp
/var/www/wiki/images/math/ "\lim_{n \to \infty}x_n"
iso-8859-1

I got the desired PNG in the
/var/www/wiki/images/math/

So the directory permssion is OK.

But when I tried <math>\sqrt{1-e^2}</math> on
mediawiki

I got the following error msg,

Failed to parse (unknown error): \sqrt{1-e^2} 


Can someone help me and share some light

thanks
jc



		
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From brion at pobox.com  Thu Dec  1 01:07:34 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 17:07:34 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Importing a wiki
In-Reply-To: <2158C5EC5B6D9A47A23F60620F1ABEE71C5CF6@ex1.visiongrp.local>
References: <2158C5EC5B6D9A47A23F60620F1ABEE71C5CF6@ex1.visiongrp.local>
Message-ID: <438E4CD6.90807@pobox.com>

Harris, Mike wrote:
> I am trying to port my wiki on a new computer.  To do this I simply
> dumped by database and then recreated it on my new database on the new
> computer.  I then tried to simply run the install script from a fresh
> wiki installation.  I get the following error:
[snip]
> Error: 1146 Table 'wikidb.old' doesn't exist (localhost)

1.5 has no 'old' table. Did you import a 1.5 database with 1.4 source code?

You can set a prefix on all tables. Did you import a database with prefixes, and
fail to configure that prefix in the installer?

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 01:20:50 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 01:20:50 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] adding a 'CSV' field to MediaZilla
In-Reply-To: <00bd01c5f5ef$00776260$561cfea9@gangleri>
References: <00bd01c5f5ef$00776260$561cfea9@gangleri>
Message-ID: <e92136380511301720s14af96cai@mail.gmail.com>

Shock horror! CVS contains a command called update! Shock horror! CVS
clients can tell you what's changed between your workspace and the
repository!

What happens if more than one file was changed, as is often the case?


Rob Church

On 30/11/05, gangleri <gangleri at wikimagic.com> wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> It seems that the section *Queryable Fields* in
> http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/config.cgi shows the defnition of the fields
> in MediaZilla.
>
> What about adding a field
>   { name: 'related_cvs_link',
>     description: 'CVS' }
>
> This field should contain the link to the relevant file at
> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/
> and should help newbees to go directly
> a) to the relevant file that needs to be changed
> or if the bug report was fixed
> b) to the file that *was* changed; if more similar files have been changed
> then an example url should be included
>
> Why this request?
> a) I was able to idendify some of such files but I was not able to identify
> for exmple the file where the change for
> http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3810#c9 and
> http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3810#c10 have been made.
> b) Having the CVS link at the top would make life easier then searching for
> such links inside the comments.
>
> Thanks for your support in advance!
>
> best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 01:21:21 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 01:21:21 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] mediawiki 1.5: so difficult?
In-Reply-To: <9f02ca4c0511300844g3f5166aeo@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e92136380511280735w6a14e67ax@mail.gmail.com>
	<k3Ijfgxa.1133193591.4536380.luis@cyber.law.harvard.edu>
	<9f02ca4c0511280830m3c5f9eaw@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0511281716h11ba1913u54629fd65bd9cd1e@mail.gmail.com>
	<fd24e2650511291236p7d6fa33bxbcea2abf499f0f2a@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0511291254reb6a1d0m@mail.gmail.com>
	<fd24e2650511291953k779f340fmcdfca4d63c152f4d@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0511300820u691e4037p@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380511300827u665276a2l@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0511300844g3f5166aeo@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380511301721r7fd669d7x@mail.gmail.com>

Not a biggie, however...


Rob Church

On 30/11/05, Rowan Collins <rowan.collins at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 30/11/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > ...bear in mind to tweak the code for Special:Wantedpages first,
> > otherwise it'll miss out some which aren't linked to more than once.
>
> Ah, I didn't realise that. Thought there might be a catch. :(
>
> --
> Rowan Collins BSc
> [IMSoP]
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 01:25:29 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 01:25:29 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Problem uploading images
In-Reply-To: <438E0DAC.7060704@web.de>
References: <43899CAC.8010400@web.de> <438E0DAC.7060704@web.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380511301725x16bbb4a8h@mail.gmail.com>

Is the uploads (/wiki/images) directory writable by the web server user?


Rob Church

On 30/11/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> I just found out that the error message is called in
> includes/SpecialUpload.php
>
> $success = move_uploaded_file( $tempName, $this->mSavedFile );
> if( ! $success ) {
>    $wgOut->fileCopyError( $tempName, $this->mSavedFile );
>    return false;
> }
>
> the string in $tempName changes at each upload.
>
> What can I do?
> Any idea?
>
> Can it have something to do with save mode?
>
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> Martin Baumann schrieb:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am logged on as sysop of my wiki.
> > The directories images and subdirectories archive, temp and thumb
> > exist and all have 777 mode.
> >
> > I try to upload an image and the following error is shown:
> >
> > Internal Error: Could not copy file "/tmp/phpjf0ODv" to
> > "/<mywebspace>/wiki/images/test.png".
> >
> > No other information or comment. I have no idea what could cause this
> > problem. The site is hosted by
> > a computing center of a university. Probably they made some options on
> > their servers that lead to this
> > error?
> >
> > Anyone any idea to find out what goes wrong?
> >
> > Thanks, Martin
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 01:32:17 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 01:32:17 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Modifying search results page
In-Reply-To: <27e1e1140511291547l34ac929fldd099e3c9c1cdec4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <27e1e1140511241754r7744cc51t1f399556eb830e8c@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380511250451i446c7e8fm@mail.gmail.com>
	<27e1e1140511250531j10455802xf68090552b92da4e@mail.gmail.com>
	<27e1e1140511251601w299c6465ra54ac207e2cf1f3@mail.gmail.com>
	<27e1e1140511291547l34ac929fldd099e3c9c1cdec4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380511301732w945ace3x@mail.gmail.com>

Parsing? Hmm, sounds like that *might* be something the parser
does...see the global $wgOut output page object knocking about, which
contains a few of those functions. Also refer to Parser.php...


Rob Church

On 29/11/05, Alex Edelman <alexoedelman at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey, all.
>
> I'm looking to change the way my search results appear. Currently,
> they include, as per default, the link to the article, and below that
> a snippet of text from it. My problem is that this text contains
> iteral wikicode ([[]], '''', etc.). How can I change the results page
> so that these marks are removed?
>
>  Having stared and stared at searchengine.php and its related files,
> I've found the classes, extended classes, and their functions way over
> my head. Is there some specific function that parses wikitext? And
> which function's return do I have to parse thus?
>
> --
> Sincerely,
> Alex Edelman
> "Alpaca"
> http://www.thekolwiki.net/
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From gangleri at wikimagic.com  Thu Dec  1 02:22:00 2005
From: gangleri at wikimagic.com (gangleri)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 03:22:00 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] is this a bug? behaviour of oldid has changed
Message-ID: <017e01c5f61e$0e5e4cc0$561cfea9@gangleri>

Hallo!

Some days before you could use ?oldid=nnnn / &oldid=nnnn with an *arbitrary* 
title.

This has changed (today?).

There are scenarios where this is quite strange.

I created http://test.leuksman.com/view/Refer_by_oldid
as http://test.leuksman.com/index.php?title=Refer_by_oldid&oldid=9974
I moved the page to http://test.leuksman.com/view/Refer_by_oldid_moved
as http://test.leuksman.com/index.php?title=Refer_by_oldid_moved&oldid=9975
I deleted http://test.leuksman.com/view/Refer_by_oldid

What happens:
see
a) http://test.leuksman.com/index.php?title=Refer_by_oldid&oldid=9974
b) http://test.leuksman.com/index.php?title=oldid=9974
c) http://test.leuksman.com/index.php?title=Refer_by_oldid_moved&oldid=9974

Another scenario:
Namespaces get changed and the titles do not match any more.

This was irrelevant in the past. Not it is *not*.

Should we open a bug?

regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
irc://irc.freenode.net/mediawiki
irc://irc.freenode.net/wiktionary
ICQ: 317732084 



From yokima at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 04:24:08 2005
From: yokima at gmail.com (Yongho Kim)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:24:08 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] imitating commons on private mediawiki installations
In-Reply-To: <438D591B.8010409@pobox.com>
References: <3a07b379050511092240795cfa@mail.gmail.com>
	<42826E22.1030604@pobox.com>
	<3a07b37905051114085d14872a@mail.gmail.com>
	<3a07b3790511292309i5db306cfm9ad28868d086f93b@mail.gmail.com>
	<438D591B.8010409@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <3a07b3790511302024p1d67a5a8m591ce0a5ebd570b7@mail.gmail.com>

Hmm, I feel like I would need to enter more information to
LocalSettings.phpfor this to work.

As I understand it, Wikimedia Commons is a MediaWiki installation that
*could* have text information but instead was dedicated to media files. And
the other languages, english, german, etc.. will "look up" Wikimedia Commons
when an Image: request does not show any local file. Right? So I'm assuming
the configuration given by Brion Vibber

$wgSharedUploadPath = 'http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons';
$wgSharedUploadDirectory = '/mnt/upload3/wikipedia/commons';
$wgHashedSharedUploadDirectory = true;
$wgSharedUploadDBname = 'commonswiki';

is a LocalSettings.php insert for every single language wikipedia
installation, except for Commons itself, right?

If this is the case, why is given language MediaWiki X (let's say the
english installation) not provided with the MySQL user and password for the
UploadDBname "commonswiki"? Shouldn't there be entries for
$wgSharedUploadDBuser and $wgeSharedUploadDBpassword ?

For instance, our MediaWiki installs at mpkb.net are structured as follows:

MySQL
english wiki (/en) DB mpkbnet_wiki, prefix en_ (en_archive, en_brokenlinks,
etc..)
spanish wiki (/es) DB mpkbnet_wiki, prefix es_ (es_archive, es_brokenlinks)
user for mpkbnet_wiki = mpkbnet_mpkbnet

Then I try to set up the spanish wiki as subordinated to the english wiki,
and so all images in spanish will be coming from the ones already uploaded
at the english one. So I tried to set up the english one as a Commons.

I inserted the following at the spanish wiki LocalSettings.php

$wgSharedUploadPath = 'http://mpkb.net/wikien/images';
$wgSharedUploadDirectory = '/home/mpkbnet/public_html/wikien/images';
$wgHashedSharedUploadDirectory = true;
$wgSharedUploadDBname = 'mpkbnet_wiki';

( /wikien is the real directory and /en is a rewrite mask)

and obviously it doesn't work, but.. how can this be done? Should I separate
the english and spanish wiki into different databases?

english wiki DB mpkbnet_wikien, prefix wp_
spanish wiki DB mpkbnet_wikies, prefix wp_

like this?

But still, I can't see how one wiki would be able to access DB information
for the other "commons" wiki.

Help.

Yongho

On 11/29/05, Brion Vibber <brion at pobox.com> wrote:
>
> Yongho Kim wrote:
> > I am still unable to set the commons wiki properly. Could someone paste
> here
> > a working LocalSettings.php wgSharedUpload configuration? Or could I see
> > wikipedia's configuration? That would make it a lot easier to
> retroengineer
> > it and adapt to my site's setup.
>
> First you need to set the URL prefix to where the common uploaded files
> will
> appear on the web:
>
> $wgSharedUploadPath = 'http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons';
>
> You also need a local filesystem directory, so files can be checked for
> existence and thumbnails generated:
>
> $wgSharedUploadDirectory = '/mnt/upload3/wikipedia/commons';
>
> On by default, using the subdirectories to split up the file set:
>
> $wgHashedSharedUploadDirectory = true;
>
> To load image data for shared images, you'll also need to specify the
> database
> name (all your wikis will need to use the same prefix, in separate
> databases on
> the same server, or I'm not sure this works):
>
> $wgSharedUploadDBname = 'commonswiki';
>
> I'm not sure if this made it into 1.5 or not, but you can optionally have
> it
> fetch the description page contents to show when you go to 'Image:Foo.jpg'.
> This
> might require additional configuration (appropriate interwiki table etc):
>
> $wgFetchCommonsDescriptions = true;
>
>
> Unfortunately I'm not sure any of the above is any clearer than the
> examples in
> the earlier message you quoted, but that's our settings...
>
> -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
>
>
>


From brion at pobox.com  Thu Dec  1 04:56:10 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 20:56:10 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] imitating commons on private mediawiki installations
In-Reply-To: <3a07b3790511302024p1d67a5a8m591ce0a5ebd570b7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3a07b379050511092240795cfa@mail.gmail.com>	<42826E22.1030604@pobox.com>	<3a07b37905051114085d14872a@mail.gmail.com>	<3a07b3790511292309i5db306cfm9ad28868d086f93b@mail.gmail.com>	<438D591B.8010409@pobox.com>
	<3a07b3790511302024p1d67a5a8m591ce0a5ebd570b7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <438E826A.3070301@pobox.com>

Yongho Kim wrote:
[snip]
> If this is the case, why is given language MediaWiki X (let's say the
> english installation) not provided with the MySQL user and password for the
> UploadDBname "commonswiki"?

It's accessed on the same database connection, so your DB user needs permissions
on the shared database as well.

> For instance, our MediaWiki installs at mpkb.net are structured as follows:
> 
> MySQL
> english wiki (/en) DB mpkbnet_wiki, prefix en_ (en_archive, en_brokenlinks,
> etc..)
> spanish wiki (/es) DB mpkbnet_wiki, prefix es_ (es_archive, es_brokenlinks)
> user for mpkbnet_wiki = mpkbnet_mpkbnet

If you're using prefixes, you may also need to set $wgSharedUploadDBprefix.
(You did look in DefaultSettings.php for all the available settings, right?)
I've never tested it with prefixes, so can't guarantee it'll work properly.

> But still, I can't see how one wiki would be able to access DB information
> for the other "commons" wiki.

You can access as many databases on the server as you like, as long as the user
has permissions for them.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From kg4ydw at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 06:35:56 2005
From: kg4ydw at gmail.com (Steven Dick)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 01:35:56 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] mediawiki 1.5: so difficult?
In-Reply-To: <e92136380511301721r7fd669d7x@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e92136380511280735w6a14e67ax@mail.gmail.com>
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	<deb2337a0511281716h11ba1913u54629fd65bd9cd1e@mail.gmail.com>
	<fd24e2650511291236p7d6fa33bxbcea2abf499f0f2a@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0511291254reb6a1d0m@mail.gmail.com>
	<fd24e2650511291953k779f340fmcdfca4d63c152f4d@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0511300820u691e4037p@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380511300827u665276a2l@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0511300844g3f5166aeo@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380511301721r7fd669d7x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fd24e2650511302235n7eb53b63t2191bf1006b554f8@mail.gmail.com>

Here's a starting list if pages that need site appropriate content, most in
MediaWiki namespace of course.  I apologize in advance for any typos, since
I"m not using cut and paste on this.  I don't pretend this list is complete,
just a start.  Some of these are already well documented in the MediaWiki
documentation.

sidebar (and items linked from it such as...)
mainpage
Community portal
Current events

Protected page
Protected page guidelines
Image use policy
Copyrights
Searching (from Searchresulttext)
nogomatch (I replaced the default with a version of what is on wikipedia)


From mailsgetlost at web.de  Thu Dec  1 06:47:53 2005
From: mailsgetlost at web.de (Martin Baumann)
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 07:47:53 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Problem uploading images
In-Reply-To: <e92136380511301725x16bbb4a8h@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43899CAC.8010400@web.de> <438E0DAC.7060704@web.de>
	<e92136380511301725x16bbb4a8h@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <438E9C99.4020802@web.de>

I think so. I changed mod to 777.
But how can I test if web server user actually can write files to it?

Martin


Rob Church schrieb:

>Is the uploads (/wiki/images) directory writable by the web server user?
>
>
>Rob Church
>
>On 30/11/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
>  
>
>>I just found out that the error message is called in
>>includes/SpecialUpload.php
>>
>>$success = move_uploaded_file( $tempName, $this->mSavedFile );
>>if( ! $success ) {
>>   $wgOut->fileCopyError( $tempName, $this->mSavedFile );
>>   return false;
>>}
>>
>>the string in $tempName changes at each upload.
>>
>>What can I do?
>>Any idea?
>>
>>Can it have something to do with save mode?
>>
>>
>>Martin
>>
>>
>>
>>Martin Baumann schrieb:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>I am logged on as sysop of my wiki.
>>>The directories images and subdirectories archive, temp and thumb
>>>exist and all have 777 mode.
>>>
>>>I try to upload an image and the following error is shown:
>>>
>>>Internal Error: Could not copy file "/tmp/phpjf0ODv" to
>>>"/<mywebspace>/wiki/images/test.png".
>>>
>>>No other information or comment. I have no idea what could cause this
>>>problem. The site is hosted by
>>>a computing center of a university. Probably they made some options on
>>>their servers that lead to this
>>>error?
>>>
>>>Anyone any idea to find out what goes wrong?
>>>
>>>Thanks, Martin
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>MediaWiki-l mailing list
>>>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>MediaWiki-l mailing list
>>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>
>>    
>>
>_______________________________________________
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>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
>  
>


From kg4ydw at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 06:48:03 2005
From: kg4ydw at gmail.com (Steven Dick)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 01:48:03 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] mediawiki 1.5: so difficult?
In-Reply-To: <9f02ca4c0511300820u691e4037p@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e92136380511280735w6a14e67ax@mail.gmail.com>
	<k3Ijfgxa.1133193591.4536380.luis@cyber.law.harvard.edu>
	<9f02ca4c0511280830m3c5f9eaw@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0511281716h11ba1913u54629fd65bd9cd1e@mail.gmail.com>
	<fd24e2650511291236p7d6fa33bxbcea2abf499f0f2a@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0511291254reb6a1d0m@mail.gmail.com>
	<fd24e2650511291953k779f340fmcdfca4d63c152f4d@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0511300820u691e4037p@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fd24e2650511302248x5cee6fb4l3d0afb3edc1f7257@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/30/05, Rowan Collins <rowan.collins at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> OK, no need for accusations


Sorry to snap at you, and thanks for correcting the errors, pedanticly or
not.
That's what I get for writing to maling lists when I really should be
sleeping. :)

Part of your confusion is that I meant both things, probably because I'm
confused about what I want.  It's been a while since I set up the wiki,
so weak memory on this stuff does not help.

I *thought* you were talking about pages which were literally *part
> of* the interface;


I'm not sure that this isn't the case.  As another poster pointed out,
there are pages that need to be site appropriate.   I think I've listed most
of them in my posting to the list, but I'm sure I missed a few.

The key here is prioritizing what needs changing -- things that are critical
to a site's layout and purpose, vs. all messages in the system.

But most of the pages that bother me I think are linked to from the system
messages, which is why they got missed.


From T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de  Thu Dec  1 07:42:26 2005
From: T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de (Vasiliadis, Thomas)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 08:42:26 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Are there any restrictions for a MediaWiki running on
	MS IIS?
Message-ID: <D44B7B2E5EDC0C44A023008CF062E4000F8297@server.worms.schlemmerblock.de>

Hi there,

Im running an MediaWiki 1.5.1 with PHP 5.0.5 (isapi) and MySQL 5.0.15-nt on an MS IIS (InternetInformationServer).
I have some troubles with it:
If I try to use a "Umlaut" (german special character like ?,?,?) in the articel name, the articel will be saved if I hit the save button, but Wiki doesn't react anymore.
If i try to load such an article, it is the same. 
In the Database on the server are funny characters instat of the Umlaute I have used.
If I take a lock with phpMyAdmin from my PC the characters seems pretty OK.
The tabels are all utf8-gerneral_ci and the database itself latin1_swedish_ci (don't ask me why swedish).
The type of the tables are mostly "InnoDB". Searchindex is "MyISAM" an hitcounter is "MEMORY" (with a unknown amount of datasets inside).

Ive tryed to update the whole wiki to 1.5.2, since then i am unable to delete an articel (which worked fine before). Downgrading to 1.5.1 makes no change to this.

Have anybody any suggestions?

TV


From gordon.joly at pobox.com  Thu Dec  1 09:35:47 2005
From: gordon.joly at pobox.com (Gordon Joly)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 09:35:47 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Google Analytics in a Mediawiki wiki?
Message-ID: <p06230901bfb473d0a6cd@[192.168.116.8]>



I have tried to incorporate Google Analytics in some wikis (Mediawiki 
1.5.2) without success. Any ideas how to do this?

http://www.google.com/analytics/

A small script segment has to appear in all the pages that you want 
Google Analytics to monitor.

-- 
Gordo (aka LoopZilla)
gordon.joly at pobox.com
http://pobox.com/~gordo/
http://www.loopzilla.org/


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 09:56:31 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 09:56:31 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Problem uploading images
In-Reply-To: <438E9C99.4020802@web.de>
References: <43899CAC.8010400@web.de> <438E0DAC.7060704@web.de>
	<e92136380511301725x16bbb4a8h@mail.gmail.com>
	<438E9C99.4020802@web.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512010156m39bf03fdq@mail.gmail.com>

If you set CHMOD 777 on the images directory, then it ought to be
writable, and you shouldn't have to test it; however, to do so, write
a small script and see. Something like the following would be
adequate:

<?php
$stuff = 'This is some text';
echo('Attempting to write...');
if(file_put_contents('file', $stuff) > 0) {
  echo('done!<br />');
} else {
  echo('failed!<br />');
}
?>

Pop this in a .php file, place it in the images dir. and call it. It
ought to return a success message and produce a file containing some
dummy text.

To the original problem; find out if safe mode is on, etc. and whether
or not file uploading itself is permitted within the PHP
configuration.


Rob Church

On 01/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> I think so. I changed mod to 777.
> But how can I test if web server user actually can write files to it?
>
> Martin
>
>
> Rob Church schrieb:
>
> >Is the uploads (/wiki/images) directory writable by the web server user?
> >
> >
> >Rob Church
> >
> >On 30/11/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I just found out that the error message is called in
> >>includes/SpecialUpload.php
> >>
> >>$success = move_uploaded_file( $tempName, $this->mSavedFile );
> >>if( ! $success ) {
> >>   $wgOut->fileCopyError( $tempName, $this->mSavedFile );
> >>   return false;
> >>}
> >>
> >>the string in $tempName changes at each upload.
> >>
> >>What can I do?
> >>Any idea?
> >>
> >>Can it have something to do with save mode?
> >>
> >>
> >>Martin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Martin Baumann schrieb:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>I am logged on as sysop of my wiki.
> >>>The directories images and subdirectories archive, temp and thumb
> >>>exist and all have 777 mode.
> >>>
> >>>I try to upload an image and the following error is shown:
> >>>
> >>>Internal Error: Could not copy file "/tmp/phpjf0ODv" to
> >>>"/<mywebspace>/wiki/images/test.png".
> >>>
> >>>No other information or comment. I have no idea what could cause this
> >>>problem. The site is hosted by
> >>>a computing center of a university. Probably they made some options on
> >>>their servers that lead to this
> >>>error?
> >>>
> >>>Anyone any idea to find out what goes wrong?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks, Martin
> >>>_______________________________________________
> >>>MediaWiki-l mailing list
> >>>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> >>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>_______________________________________________
> >>MediaWiki-l mailing list
> >>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> >>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >_______________________________________________
> >MediaWiki-l mailing list
> >MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> >http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 10:03:20 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 10:03:20 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Google Analytics in a Mediawiki wiki?
In-Reply-To: <p06230901bfb473d0a6cd@192.168.116.8>
References: <p06230901bfb473d0a6cd@192.168.116.8>
Message-ID: <e92136380512010203l147dfdc2k@mail.gmail.com>

Have you looked at the skin files? Perhaps customise the SkinTemplate class?


Rob Church

On 01/12/05, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly at pobox.com> wrote:
>
>
> I have tried to incorporate Google Analytics in some wikis (Mediawiki
> 1.5.2) without success. Any ideas how to do this?
>
> http://www.google.com/analytics/
>
> A small script segment has to appear in all the pages that you want
> Google Analytics to monitor.
>
> --
> Gordo (aka LoopZilla)
> gordon.joly at pobox.com
> http://pobox.com/~gordo/
> http://www.loopzilla.org/
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 10:06:52 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 10:06:52 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Are there any restrictions for a MediaWiki running
	on MS IIS?
In-Reply-To: <D44B7B2E5EDC0C44A023008CF062E4000F8297@server.worms.schlemmerblock.de>
References: <D44B7B2E5EDC0C44A023008CF062E4000F8297@server.worms.schlemmerblock.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512010206v586fad13l@mail.gmail.com>

When you say, "wiki doesn't react any more", can you elaborate on
that, since it could mean a number of things. What happens to make you
say that?

The characters look peculiar due to character set issues, I would
image, but they should be stored without any problems. When you
upgraded, did you follow the instructions in the upgrade document?

On the subject of upgrades; can you be specific about what problems
occur under which version of MediaWiki? Also, have you *ever* had this
wiki running - i.e. did these issues start after upgrading to 1.5.1,
or have you always had this issue?


Rob Church

On 01/12/05, Vasiliadis, Thomas <T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Im running an MediaWiki 1.5.1 with PHP 5.0.5 (isapi) and MySQL 5.0.15-nt on an MS IIS (InternetInformationServer).
> I have some troubles with it:
> If I try to use a "Umlaut" (german special character like ?,?,?) in the articel name, the articel will be saved if I hit the save button, but Wiki doesn't react anymore.
> If i try to load such an article, it is the same.
> In the Database on the server are funny characters instat of the Umlaute I have used.
> If I take a lock with phpMyAdmin from my PC the characters seems pretty OK.
> The tabels are all utf8-gerneral_ci and the database itself latin1_swedish_ci (don't ask me why swedish).
> The type of the tables are mostly "InnoDB". Searchindex is "MyISAM" an hitcounter is "MEMORY" (with a unknown amount of datasets inside).
>
> Ive tryed to update the whole wiki to 1.5.2, since then i am unable to delete an articel (which worked fine before). Downgrading to 1.5.1 makes no change to this.
>
> Have anybody any suggestions?
>
> TV
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 10:13:51 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 10:13:51 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] is this a bug? behaviour of oldid has changed
In-Reply-To: <017e01c5f61e$0e5e4cc0$561cfea9@gangleri>
References: <017e01c5f61e$0e5e4cc0$561cfea9@gangleri>
Message-ID: <e92136380512010213x398aa13en@mail.gmail.com>

"Some days before you could use ?oldid=nnnn / &oldid=nnnn with an *arbitrary*
title."

What the hell does this mean?


Rob Church

On 01/12/05, gangleri <gangleri at wikimagic.com> wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> Some days before you could use ?oldid=nnnn / &oldid=nnnn with an *arbitrary*
> title.
>
> This has changed (today?).
>
> There are scenarios where this is quite strange.
>
> I created http://test.leuksman.com/view/Refer_by_oldid
> as http://test.leuksman.com/index.php?title=Refer_by_oldid&oldid=9974
> I moved the page to http://test.leuksman.com/view/Refer_by_oldid_moved
> as http://test.leuksman.com/index.php?title=Refer_by_oldid_moved&oldid=9975
> I deleted http://test.leuksman.com/view/Refer_by_oldid
>
> What happens:
> see
> a) http://test.leuksman.com/index.php?title=Refer_by_oldid&oldid=9974
> b) http://test.leuksman.com/index.php?title=oldid=9974
> c) http://test.leuksman.com/index.php?title=Refer_by_oldid_moved&oldid=9974
>
> Another scenario:
> Namespaces get changed and the titles do not match any more.
>
> This was irrelevant in the past. Not it is *not*.
>
> Should we open a bug?
>
> regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
> irc://irc.freenode.net/mediawiki
> irc://irc.freenode.net/wiktionary
> ICQ: 317732084
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From wiseleyb at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 15:16:57 2005
From: wiseleyb at gmail.com (ben wiseley)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 07:16:57 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Google Analytics in a Mediawiki wiki?
In-Reply-To: <p06230901bfb473d0a6cd@192.168.116.8>
References: <p06230901bfb473d0a6cd@192.168.116.8>
Message-ID: <fc90a7570512010716u2e7b50b8la0f2c2d2fc5c58d5@mail.gmail.com>

I got it to work on http://mudabone.com/wiki by putting their code in
skins/monobook.php

Note:  Analytics takes a while to "work".  I think it told me I had an error
the first few days but then it started working.  They sent out an email
talking about this a few days ago, so it's a known bug.

-ben


On 12/1/05, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly at pobox.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> I have tried to incorporate Google Analytics in some wikis (Mediawiki
> 1.5.2) without success. Any ideas how to do this?
>
> http://www.google.com/analytics/
>
> A small script segment has to appear in all the pages that you want
> Google Analytics to monitor.
>
> --
> Gordo (aka LoopZilla)
> gordon.joly at pobox.com
> http://pobox.com/~gordo/
> http://www.loopzilla.org/
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From rgravois at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  1 17:28:01 2005
From: rgravois at yahoo.com (Richard Gravois)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 09:28:01 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] re-install from scratch
Message-ID: <20051201172801.74288.qmail@web80602.mail.yahoo.com>

I have some damages on my install:
logo and icons do not show
upload fails...

maybe a few other things.

I want to re-install it.

I renamed the wiki as wiki_old and moved a new copy of
mediawiki_1.5xx to public_html and renamed it wiki,
but access is forbidden?
Should I kill the mysql database also?

How intertwined is wiki in my site?

Thanks in advance




From mediawiki-1 at wikiplant.org  Thu Dec  1 19:46:00 2005
From: mediawiki-1 at wikiplant.org (WikiPlant)
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 20:46:00 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] upload directory changed
Message-ID: <438F52F8.9030409@wikiplant.org>

I have a problem: i changed in LocalSettings.php the upload 
directories... and now there are coming warnings, e.g.:
__________________________________________________________________________________
Warning: 
imagecreatefromjpeg(http://upload.wikiplant.org/de/b/b2/Helianthus_annuus_(1).jpg): 
failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found in 
/www/htdocs/w005dd98/wiki/includes/Image.php on line 1071

Warning: imagecopyresampled(): supplied argument is not a valid Image 
resource in /www/htdocs/w005dd98/wiki/includes/Image.php on line 1079

Warning: imagejpeg(): Unable to open 
'http://upload.wikiplant.org/de/thumb/b/b2/Helianthus_annuus_(1).jpg/450px-Helianthus_annuus_(1).jpg' 
for writing in /www/htdocs/w005dd98/wiki/includes/Image.php on line 1099

Warning: imagedestroy(): supplied argument is not a valid Image resource 
in /www/htdocs/w005dd98/wiki/includes/Image.php on line 1082
___________________________________________________________________________________
please help me :(

second question: what have I exactly to change for making shared uploads 
from several wikis possible? (i know, something with the 
deafultsettings, but what?!)

thanks for your help and greez from germany - florian*
*


From gtg808u at mail.gatech.edu  Thu Dec  1 20:29:56 2005
From: gtg808u at mail.gatech.edu (Amruta Lonkar)
Date: Thu,  1 Dec 2005 15:29:56 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Appending content to article end 
Message-ID: <1133468996.438f5d4412522@webmail.mail.gatech.edu>

I wanted to know how i can add content that obtain from the DB to every
article in the wiki at the end of the article if i am using the
ParserAfterstrip hook event to get the DB content.

Thanks



From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 20:54:08 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 20:54:08 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] upload directory changed
In-Reply-To: <438F52F8.9030409@wikiplant.org>
References: <438F52F8.9030409@wikiplant.org>
Message-ID: <e92136380512011254rf60f715s@mail.gmail.com>

Well, with respect to the images; you changed the directory names in
LocalSettings.php all right, but I'll wager you didn't rename the
directories. Your images are still where they were, but MediaWiki is
now looking somewhere else; it's obviously not finding them and
throwing up those errors.

As for the second part...read
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Configuration_settings for
information on DefaultSettings.php. Remember you don't change that
file; you copy the relevant directives to LocalSettings.php and change
them there.


Rob Church

On 01/12/05, WikiPlant <mediawiki-1 at wikiplant.org> wrote:
> I have a problem: i changed in LocalSettings.php the upload
> directories... and now there are coming warnings, e.g.:
> __________________________________________________________________________________
> Warning:
> imagecreatefromjpeg(http://upload.wikiplant.org/de/b/b2/Helianthus_annuus_(1).jpg):
> failed to open stream: HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found in
> /www/htdocs/w005dd98/wiki/includes/Image.php on line 1071
>
> Warning: imagecopyresampled(): supplied argument is not a valid Image
> resource in /www/htdocs/w005dd98/wiki/includes/Image.php on line 1079
>
> Warning: imagejpeg(): Unable to open
> 'http://upload.wikiplant.org/de/thumb/b/b2/Helianthus_annuus_(1).jpg/450px-Helianthus_annuus_(1).jpg'
> for writing in /www/htdocs/w005dd98/wiki/includes/Image.php on line 1099
>
> Warning: imagedestroy(): supplied argument is not a valid Image resource
> in /www/htdocs/w005dd98/wiki/includes/Image.php on line 1082
> ___________________________________________________________________________________
> please help me :(
>
> second question: what have I exactly to change for making shared uploads
> from several wikis possible? (i know, something with the
> deafultsettings, but what?!)
>
> thanks for your help and greez from germany - florian*
> *
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 21:06:02 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 21:06:02 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] re-install from scratch
In-Reply-To: <20051201172801.74288.qmail@web80602.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20051201172801.74288.qmail@web80602.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512011306g2d04c4e1q@mail.gmail.com>

Google for "smart questions" and click on the first result.

Why? Your problem is quite poorly worded, so we can only guess at what
you mean. First up; what's actually wrong with the original wiki? Or
rather, what was? We might've been able to/might be able to fix that.

Second, "access is forbidden"...by what? The operating system? mySQL?
When you say you "renamed the wiki", I assume you mean you renamed the
directory in which the software files are stored. The subsequent
"access is forbidden" comment leads me to suspect something's up with
the OS, but I can't be sure. Does the destination directory exist?

Can you provide us with a better description of your problem, so that
we can provide you with better advice?


Rob Church

On 01/12/05, Richard Gravois <rgravois at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I have some damages on my install:
> logo and icons do not show
> upload fails...
>
> maybe a few other things.
>
> I want to re-install it.
>
> I renamed the wiki as wiki_old and moved a new copy of
> mediawiki_1.5xx to public_html and renamed it wiki,
> but access is forbidden?
> Should I kill the mysql database also?
>
> How intertwined is wiki in my site?
>
> Thanks in advance
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec  1 21:09:48 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 21:09:48 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Google Analytics in a Mediawiki wiki?
In-Reply-To: <fc90a7570512010716u2e7b50b8la0f2c2d2fc5c58d5@mail.gmail.com>
References: <p06230901bfb473d0a6cd@192.168.116.8>
	<fc90a7570512010716u2e7b50b8la0f2c2d2fc5c58d5@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512011309o3c6c7daen@mail.gmail.com>

That works provided all users use that particular skin...


Rob Church

On 01/12/05, ben wiseley <wiseleyb at gmail.com> wrote:
> I got it to work on http://mudabone.com/wiki by putting their code in
> skins/monobook.php
>
> Note:  Analytics takes a while to "work".  I think it told me I had an error
> the first few days but then it started working.  They sent out an email
> talking about this a few days ago, so it's a known bug.
>
> -ben
>
>
> On 12/1/05, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly at pobox.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > I have tried to incorporate Google Analytics in some wikis (Mediawiki
> > 1.5.2) without success. Any ideas how to do this?
> >
> > http://www.google.com/analytics/
> >
> > A small script segment has to appear in all the pages that you want
> > Google Analytics to monitor.
> >
> > --
> > Gordo (aka LoopZilla)
> > gordon.joly at pobox.com
> > http://pobox.com/~gordo/
> > http://www.loopzilla.org/
> > _______________________________________________
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From mailsgetlost at web.de  Thu Dec  1 21:22:05 2005
From: mailsgetlost at web.de (Martin Baumann)
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 22:22:05 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Problem uploading images
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512010156m39bf03fdq@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43899CAC.8010400@web.de>
	<438E0DAC.7060704@web.de>	<e92136380511301725x16bbb4a8h@mail.gmail.com>	<438E9C99.4020802@web.de>
	<e92136380512010156m39bf03fdq@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <438F697D.1070106@web.de>

Thanks for your help. I get the following mwssage:

Attempting to write...
*Fatal error*: Call to undefined function: file_put_contents() in 
*/myfolder/.public_html/wiki/images/test.php* on line *4

Martin

*
Rob Church schrieb:

>If you set CHMOD 777 on the images directory, then it ought to be
>writable, and you shouldn't have to test it; however, to do so, write
>a small script and see. Something like the following would be
>adequate:
>
><?php
>$stuff = 'This is some text';
>echo('Attempting to write...');
>if(file_put_contents('file', $stuff) > 0) {
>  echo('done!<br />');
>} else {
>  echo('failed!<br />');
>}
>?>
>
>Pop this in a .php file, place it in the images dir. and call it. It
>ought to return a success message and produce a file containing some
>dummy text.
>
>To the original problem; find out if safe mode is on, etc. and whether
>or not file uploading itself is permitted within the PHP
>configuration.
>
>
>Rob Church
>
>On 01/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
>  
>
>>I think so. I changed mod to 777.
>>But how can I test if web server user actually can write files to it?
>>
>>Martin
>>
>>
>>Rob Church schrieb:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Is the uploads (/wiki/images) directory writable by the web server user?
>>>
>>>
>>>Rob Church
>>>
>>>On 30/11/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>I just found out that the error message is called in
>>>>includes/SpecialUpload.php
>>>>
>>>>$success = move_uploaded_file( $tempName, $this->mSavedFile );
>>>>if( ! $success ) {
>>>>  $wgOut->fileCopyError( $tempName, $this->mSavedFile );
>>>>  return false;
>>>>}
>>>>
>>>>the string in $tempName changes at each upload.
>>>>
>>>>What can I do?
>>>>Any idea?
>>>>
>>>>Can it have something to do with save mode?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Martin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Martin Baumann schrieb:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>I am logged on as sysop of my wiki.
>>>>>The directories images and subdirectories archive, temp and thumb
>>>>>exist and all have 777 mode.
>>>>>
>>>>>I try to upload an image and the following error is shown:
>>>>>
>>>>>Internal Error: Could not copy file "/tmp/phpjf0ODv" to
>>>>>"/<mywebspace>/wiki/images/test.png".
>>>>>
>>>>>No other information or comment. I have no idea what could cause this
>>>>>problem. The site is hosted by
>>>>>a computing center of a university. Probably they made some options on
>>>>>their servers that lead to this
>>>>>error?
>>>>>
>>>>>Anyone any idea to find out what goes wrong?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks, Martin
>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>MediaWiki-l mailing list
>>>>>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>>>>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>MediaWiki-l mailing list
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>>>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
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>>    
>>
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>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
>  
>


From mharris at visionbankcard.net  Thu Dec  1 21:31:08 2005
From: mharris at visionbankcard.net (Harris, Mike)
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 14:31:08 -0700
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] using mySQL 5.0
Message-ID: <2158C5EC5B6D9A47A23F60620F1ABEE71C5D2B@ex1.visiongrp.local>

Does anybody know if you can install a wiki using mySQL 5.0.  

Are there any issues with this?

Thanks.

Mike 



From BenA at datacom.co.nz  Thu Dec  1 21:59:32 2005
From: BenA at datacom.co.nz (Ben Arnold (DSLWN))
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 10:59:32 +1300
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Google search on nav bar
Message-ID: <46562C5EECFA8C47AADDF029EE11D73D015961B8@dnzwgex1.datacom.co.nz>

Thanks Alistair.

In the end I implemented it as a separate search box and it works well.
I inserted this HTML in our /skins/MonoBook.php after the existing
search box.

	<div id="p-search" class="portlet">
	  <h5><label for="searchInput">Google search</label></h5>
	  <div class="pBody">
	    <form name="searchform"
action="http://www.google.com/search">
            <input name="ie" value="UTF-8" type="hidden"/>
            <input name="oe" value="UTF-8" type="hidden"/>
	      <input id="searchInput" name="q" type="text"/>
	      <input type="submit" name="go" class="searchButton"
id="searchGoButton"
	        value="Google"/>
	    </form>
	  </div>
	</div>

Technically I think I shouldn't be re-using the "p-search" and
"searchInput" IDs, because IDs are supposed to be unique. It seems to
work though (at least in IE and Firefox).

Thanks again,


Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Alistair Johnson
Sent: Friday, 11 November 2005 4:03 p.m.
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] Google search on nav bar

Hi Ben,

We hacked up a custom skin for our Intranet mediawiki installation which
includes code to easily search MediaWiki or Google.

There are probably prettier ways, but this worked for us.  Hope it
helps.

Cheers,

Al.


From brion at pobox.com  Thu Dec  1 22:37:20 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 14:37:20 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Problem uploading images
In-Reply-To: <438F697D.1070106@web.de>
References: <43899CAC.8010400@web.de>	<438E0DAC.7060704@web.de>	<e92136380511301725x16bbb4a8h@mail.gmail.com>	<438E9C99.4020802@web.de>	<e92136380512010156m39bf03fdq@mail.gmail.com>
	<438F697D.1070106@web.de>
Message-ID: <438F7B20.7070200@pobox.com>

Martin Baumann wrote:
> Thanks for your help. I get the following mwssage:
> 
> Attempting to write...
> *Fatal error*: Call to undefined function: file_put_contents() in
> */myfolder/.public_html/wiki/images/test.php* on line *4

file_put_contents() is new in PHP 5.

See http://www.php.net/file_put_contents

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From mailsgetlost at web.de  Thu Dec  1 23:09:02 2005
From: mailsgetlost at web.de (Martin Baumann)
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 00:09:02 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Problem uploading images
In-Reply-To: <438F7B20.7070200@pobox.com>
References: <43899CAC.8010400@web.de>	<438E0DAC.7060704@web.de>	<e92136380511301725x16bbb4a8h@mail.gmail.com>	<438E9C99.4020802@web.de>	<e92136380512010156m39bf03fdq@mail.gmail.com>	<438F697D.1070106@web.de>
	<438F7B20.7070200@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <438F828E.9090702@web.de>

Hi,

Attempting to write...
*Warning*: fopen(): SAFE MODE Restriction in effect. The script running 
as uid 600 is not allowed to write to directory 
/myfolder/.public_html/wiki/images owned by uid 38106 in 
*/myfolder/.public_html/wiki/images/test.php* on line *8

Oh oh

Sounds bad?

Martin

*
Brion Vibber schrieb:

>Martin Baumann wrote:
>  
>
>>Thanks for your help. I get the following mwssage:
>>
>>Attempting to write...
>>*Fatal error*: Call to undefined function: file_put_contents() in
>>*/myfolder/.public_html/wiki/images/test.php* on line *4
>>    
>>
>
>file_put_contents() is new in PHP 5.
>
>See http://www.php.net/file_put_contents
>
>-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
>
>  
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>MediaWiki-l mailing list
>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>  
>


From gangleri at wikimagic.com  Thu Dec  1 23:19:28 2005
From: gangleri at wikimagic.com (gangleri)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 00:19:28 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] is this a bug? behaviour of oldid has changed
References: <017e01c5f61e$0e5e4cc0$561cfea9@gangleri>
	<e92136380512010213x398aa13en@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <019601c5f6cd$b256aac0$561cfea9@gangleri>

Sorry the "old behaviour" applays only to ?diff=nnnn / &diff=nnnn

http://tousauxbalkans.free.fr/index.php?title=Special:Version has version 
1.4.4

"title" is irelevant when diff is used:
a) at 
http://tousauxbalkans.free.fr/index.php?title=Main_Page&diff=764&oldid=751
title=Main_Page does not relate at all to the versions
b) at http://tousauxbalkans.free.fr/index.php?diff=764&oldid=751
no title is used
both are identical to
c) http://tousauxbalkans.free.fr/index.php?title=Pays&diff=764&oldid=751


However
d) http://tousauxbalkans.free.fr/index.php?oldid=764 displays the page with 
the oldid when title is missing; it is equivalent to
e) http://tousauxbalkans.free.fr/index.php?title=Pays&oldid=764 where the 
correct title is used

*but* d) is not equivalent to
f) http://tousauxbalkans.free.fr/index.php?title=Main_Page&oldid=764 there 
the page with the oldid is not displayed; "title" is "prioritized"

regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Church" <robchur at gmail.com>
To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" 
<mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] is this a bug? behaviour of oldid has changed


> "Some days before you could use ?oldid=nnnn / &oldid=nnnn with an 
> *arbitrary*
> title."
>
> What the hell does this mean?
>
>
> Rob Church 



From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec  2 07:30:45 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 07:30:45 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Problem uploading images
In-Reply-To: <438F828E.9090702@web.de>
References: <43899CAC.8010400@web.de> <438E0DAC.7060704@web.de>
	<e92136380511301725x16bbb4a8h@mail.gmail.com>
	<438E9C99.4020802@web.de>
	<e92136380512010156m39bf03fdq@mail.gmail.com>
	<438F697D.1070106@web.de> <438F7B20.7070200@pobox.com>
	<438F828E.9090702@web.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512012330u1ebb4fa3u@mail.gmail.com>

Not too horrendous, though be aware that if forced to run when PHP is
under safe mode, some parts of MediaWiki will not function as
expected...

...however, you may be able to get round this particular issue. Please
read the PHP documentation on safe mode at
http://www.php.net/features.safe-mode.


Rob Church

On 01/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Attempting to write...
> *Warning*: fopen(): SAFE MODE Restriction in effect. The script running
> as uid 600 is not allowed to write to directory
> /myfolder/.public_html/wiki/images owned by uid 38106 in
> */myfolder/.public_html/wiki/images/test.php* on line *8
>
> Oh oh
>
> Sounds bad?
>
> Martin
>
> *
> Brion Vibber schrieb:
>
> >Martin Baumann wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Thanks for your help. I get the following mwssage:
> >>
> >>Attempting to write...
> >>*Fatal error*: Call to undefined function: file_put_contents() in
> >>*/myfolder/.public_html/wiki/images/test.php* on line *4
> >>
> >>
> >
> >file_put_contents() is new in PHP 5.
> >
> >See http://www.php.net/file_put_contents
> >
> >-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
> >
> >
> >
> >------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >MediaWiki-l mailing list
> >MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> >http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec  2 07:36:34 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 07:36:34 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] using mySQL 5.0
In-Reply-To: <2158C5EC5B6D9A47A23F60620F1ABEE71C5D2B@ex1.visiongrp.local>
References: <2158C5EC5B6D9A47A23F60620F1ABEE71C5D2B@ex1.visiongrp.local>
Message-ID: <e92136380512012336s783840eaq@mail.gmail.com>

I'm running mySQL 5.0 on the machine I use for web applications
development, which has a number of versions of MediaWiki on it. I
haven't encountered issues yet. One thing I haven't done is select the
experimental mySQL 5.0 schema option, which might be something to
consider.

On the whole, you should be fine, from my experience. You will
probably need to upgrade PHP or install new mySQL client binaries, due
to a change in the way authentication is handled, and you may like to
start afresh with MediaWiki 1.5.2 too.


Rob Church

On 01/12/05, Harris, Mike <mharris at visionbankcard.net> wrote:
> Does anybody know if you can install a wiki using mySQL 5.0.
>
> Are there any issues with this?
>
> Thanks.
>
> Mike
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From mailsgetlost at web.de  Fri Dec  2 08:41:52 2005
From: mailsgetlost at web.de (Martin Baumann)
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 09:41:52 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Problem uploading images
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512012330u1ebb4fa3u@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43899CAC.8010400@web.de>
	<438E0DAC.7060704@web.de>	<e92136380511301725x16bbb4a8h@mail.gmail.com>	<438E9C99.4020802@web.de>	<e92136380512010156m39bf03fdq@mail.gmail.com>	<438F697D.1070106@web.de>
	<438F7B20.7070200@pobox.com>	<438F828E.9090702@web.de>
	<e92136380512012330u1ebb4fa3u@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <439008D0.6050904@web.de>

I read the articles. But I am not shure what all this means in my case.
Do I have to install a module?

As I already mentioned in one of my former postings, my wiki is hosted by a
computing center of an university. So I guess I am not allowed to do a 
lot of
changes to the server itself.

What do I have to change? In my wiki settings, to the server settings (I 
hope I am
allowed to) or any other changes (no idea what this could be...)?


This is my first wiki and my first contact to PHP. Sorry if my questions 
seem stupid.


Thanks for your help,

Martin



Rob Church schrieb:

>Not too horrendous, though be aware that if forced to run when PHP is
>under safe mode, some parts of MediaWiki will not function as
>expected...
>
>...however, you may be able to get round this particular issue. Please
>read the PHP documentation on safe mode at
>http://www.php.net/features.safe-mode.
>
>
>Rob Church
>
>On 01/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>Attempting to write...
>>*Warning*: fopen(): SAFE MODE Restriction in effect. The script running
>>as uid 600 is not allowed to write to directory
>>/myfolder/.public_html/wiki/images owned by uid 38106 in
>>*/myfolder/.public_html/wiki/images/test.php* on line *8
>>
>>Oh oh
>>
>>Sounds bad?
>>
>>Martin
>>
>>*
>>Brion Vibber schrieb:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Martin Baumann wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Thanks for your help. I get the following mwssage:
>>>>
>>>>Attempting to write...
>>>>*Fatal error*: Call to undefined function: file_put_contents() in
>>>>*/myfolder/.public_html/wiki/images/test.php* on line *4
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>file_put_contents() is new in PHP 5.
>>>
>>>See http://www.php.net/file_put_contents
>>>
>>>-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
>>>MediaWiki-l mailing list
>>>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>MediaWiki-l mailing list
>>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>
>>    
>>
>_______________________________________________
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>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
>  
>


From november.diary at gmail.com  Fri Dec  2 09:09:57 2005
From: november.diary at gmail.com (jaro)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 19:39:57 +1030
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Prevent caching the Main Page
Message-ID: <6e71d5380512020109p249e06b1k76b474bd0f689c51@mail.gmail.com>

Hello again!

How can i prevent the mediawiki to cache my Main Page. I added some part of
the Special:Recentchanges page there so I need it to have the actual data
everytime i make a refresh, not hard refresh. Actually I added a code that
forces the page to purge when it is trying to view the Main Page. But Is
there some other way? The code that i added already is working but im
thinking that i will be able to save some processing time if i can disable
the caching of the Main page. Im not familiar with the caching system of
mediawiki as of now so im a bit clueless..

Im using MW 1.5.2.
Thanks :)

--jaro


From mediawiki-1 at wikiplant.org  Fri Dec  2 10:33:50 2005
From: mediawiki-1 at wikiplant.org (WikiPlant)
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 11:33:50 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] re: upload directory changes
Message-ID: <4390230E.3010105@wikiplant.org>

the images are stored in .../wiki/images/ _and_ in   
upload.otherdomain.net/.../......
the already resized versions in the thumbs-folder can be displayed now, 
but the warnings are still coming - and when i want to resize them e.g. 
to 400px (which isn't yet there), it doesn't work any more :(
also i made the directory on the other domain writable, but on the 
upload-page is the warning "The upload directory (/www/htdocs/.........) 
is not writable by the webserver."
--
the shared images aren't working yet, but i'm trying my best...
greetings -- flo


From nathan.yates.2007 at marshall.usc.edu  Fri Dec  2 13:46:11 2005
From: nathan.yates.2007 at marshall.usc.edu (Yates, Nathan David (Dave))
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 05:46:11 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Last chance to participate in survey of corporate
	wiki users - win an iPod Nano
Message-ID: <361B9777BF266E4190C74D6103B29359F9CD00@msbmail03.marshall.usc.edu>

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* Have you thought about how your use of corporate wikis compare to
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* Have you wondered if other people contribute to their company's wiki
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This survey is being conducted by Dr. Ann Majchrzak, Marshall School of
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Thank you for your time!
 
 
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Professor of Information Systems
Marshall School of Business
University of Southern California
Los Angeles, CA  90089
majchrza at usc.edu
<http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l> 

 

 



From rgravois at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  2 14:00:30 2005
From: rgravois at yahoo.com (Richard Gravois)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 06:00:30 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] upload directory changed
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512011254rf60f715s@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20051202140030.83713.qmail@web80602.mail.yahoo.com>

I copied LocalSetting.php to testsetting.php to see if
I could echo the actual values but something jumped in
the way and said:

"This file is part of MediaWiki and is not a valid
entry point" 

I suppose that came from the includes.


Is there a php script that will exhibit the settings
of LocalSettings.php ?

Thanks


From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec  2 14:12:39 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 14:12:39 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Problem uploading images
In-Reply-To: <439008D0.6050904@web.de>
References: <43899CAC.8010400@web.de> <438E0DAC.7060704@web.de>
	<e92136380511301725x16bbb4a8h@mail.gmail.com>
	<438E9C99.4020802@web.de>
	<e92136380512010156m39bf03fdq@mail.gmail.com>
	<438F697D.1070106@web.de> <438F7B20.7070200@pobox.com>
	<438F828E.9090702@web.de>
	<e92136380512012330u1ebb4fa3u@mail.gmail.com>
	<439008D0.6050904@web.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512020612r3ad7b28dw@mail.gmail.com>

I'd talk to your server administrators and explain the situation to
them. Show them the error message you're having and get them to help
work around it.


Rob Church

On 02/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> I read the articles. But I am not shure what all this means in my case.
> Do I have to install a module?
>
> As I already mentioned in one of my former postings, my wiki is hosted by a
> computing center of an university. So I guess I am not allowed to do a
> lot of
> changes to the server itself.
>
> What do I have to change? In my wiki settings, to the server settings (I
> hope I am
> allowed to) or any other changes (no idea what this could be...)?
>
>
> This is my first wiki and my first contact to PHP. Sorry if my questions
> seem stupid.
>
>
> Thanks for your help,
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> Rob Church schrieb:
>
> >Not too horrendous, though be aware that if forced to run when PHP is
> >under safe mode, some parts of MediaWiki will not function as
> >expected...
> >
> >...however, you may be able to get round this particular issue. Please
> >read the PHP documentation on safe mode at
> >http://www.php.net/features.safe-mode.
> >
> >
> >Rob Church
> >
> >On 01/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>Attempting to write...
> >>*Warning*: fopen(): SAFE MODE Restriction in effect. The script running
> >>as uid 600 is not allowed to write to directory
> >>/myfolder/.public_html/wiki/images owned by uid 38106 in
> >>*/myfolder/.public_html/wiki/images/test.php* on line *8
> >>
> >>Oh oh
> >>
> >>Sounds bad?
> >>
> >>Martin
> >>
> >>*
> >>Brion Vibber schrieb:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Martin Baumann wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Thanks for your help. I get the following mwssage:
> >>>>
> >>>>Attempting to write...
> >>>>*Fatal error*: Call to undefined function: file_put_contents() in
> >>>>*/myfolder/.public_html/wiki/images/test.php* on line *4
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>file_put_contents() is new in PHP 5.
> >>>
> >>>See http://www.php.net/file_put_contents
> >>>
> >>>-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>>
> >>>_______________________________________________
> >>>MediaWiki-l mailing list
> >>>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> >>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>_______________________________________________
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> >>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >>
> >>
> >>
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> >MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> >http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> >
> >
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> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Fri Dec  2 19:00:17 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 19:00:17 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] mediawiki 1.5: so difficult?
In-Reply-To: <fd24e2650511302235n7eb53b63t2191bf1006b554f8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e92136380511280735w6a14e67ax@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0511281716h11ba1913u54629fd65bd9cd1e@mail.gmail.com>
	<fd24e2650511291236p7d6fa33bxbcea2abf499f0f2a@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0511291254reb6a1d0m@mail.gmail.com>
	<fd24e2650511291953k779f340fmcdfca4d63c152f4d@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0511300820u691e4037p@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380511300827u665276a2l@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0511300844g3f5166aeo@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380511301721r7fd669d7x@mail.gmail.com>
	<fd24e2650511302235n7eb53b63t2191bf1006b554f8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512021100h411b6d2eq@mail.gmail.com>

On 01/12/05, Steven Dick <kg4ydw at gmail.com> wrote:
> Here's a starting list if pages that need site appropriate content, most in
> MediaWiki namespace of course.

This would be much more useful if you were to use their full titles,
namespace and all - listing "mainpage" and "Searching" is distinctly
ambiguous. I'm guessing you meant either "Main Page" or
"MediaWiki:mainpage" (which is just a pointer), and
"Project:Searching" (note the use of "Project:" as a site-independent
name for that namespace, which on Wikipedia would be "Wikipedia:").

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Fri Dec  2 19:04:55 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 19:04:55 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] mediawiki 1.5: so difficult?
In-Reply-To: <fd24e2650511302248x5cee6fb4l3d0afb3edc1f7257@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e92136380511280735w6a14e67ax@mail.gmail.com>
	<k3Ijfgxa.1133193591.4536380.luis@cyber.law.harvard.edu>
	<9f02ca4c0511280830m3c5f9eaw@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0511281716h11ba1913u54629fd65bd9cd1e@mail.gmail.com>
	<fd24e2650511291236p7d6fa33bxbcea2abf499f0f2a@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0511291254reb6a1d0m@mail.gmail.com>
	<fd24e2650511291953k779f340fmcdfca4d63c152f4d@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0511300820u691e4037p@mail.gmail.com>
	<fd24e2650511302248x5cee6fb4l3d0afb3edc1f7257@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512021104j365c87d5g@mail.gmail.com>

On 01/12/05, Steven Dick <kg4ydw at gmail.com> wrote:
> That's what I get for writing to maling lists when I really should be
> sleeping. :)

Hey, you do that too? Cool!

> I *thought* you were talking about pages which were literally *part
> > of* the interface;
>
> I'm not sure that this isn't the case.  As another poster pointed out,
> there are pages that need to be site appropriate.

Yes, that is definitely the case, and hope I didn't imply otherwise.
What I was pointing out is that there should be no such thing as a
page in the MediaWiki namespace which literally *doesn't exist* - some
of them will require *editting* after install, but they shouldn't
require *creation*.

Actually, some of the key LocalSettings.php vars fall into the same
category - the logo, for instance, isn't *missing* at first, but it
urgently *requires* replacement...

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From greg at zorro.STUDENT.CWRU.edu  Fri Dec  2 17:34:10 2005
From: greg at zorro.STUDENT.CWRU.edu (Gregory Szorc)
Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 12:34:10 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Announcing Graphviz and Associated Extensions
Message-ID: <43908592.6070207@zorro.case.edu>

I have two new extensions to through into the mix:

1) Graphviz embedding extension.  It generates Graphviz 
(http://www.graphviz.org) images from embedded markup.  Although one 
already exists, I couldn't find the source code, so I wrote a new one.

2) Graph generating SpecialPage.  This extension allows you to query 
your wiki for both XML and Graphviz markup of subsets of your wiki.  As 
an added bonus, the content can be transparently included in pages so 
dynamic graphs (images) of relations can be generated.

The extensions can be downloaded from 
http://opensource.case.edu/projects/MediaWikiHacks/
A live example of these extensions is the Case Western Reserve 
University Wiki (http://wiki.case.edu).  Some links of interest are:
http://wiki.case.edu/Special:Graphs
http://wiki.case.edu/Category:Staff 
http://wiki.case.edu/Category:ITS_Employees
http://wiki.case.edu/CaseWiki:Categories

As you can see, for all smaller category pages, a graph of the category 
layout is automatically generated.  (Yes, I know about the font issues).

This extension is a work in progress and is a little rough around the 
edges.  I welcome any input others should provide and am open to 
suggestions for future possibilities.

Gregory Szorc
gregory.szorc at case.edu


From David.Biesack at sas.com  Fri Dec  2 21:43:15 2005
From: David.Biesack at sas.com (David J. Biesack)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 16:43:15 -0500 (EST)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] 1.4.12 -> 1.5.2 update failing
Message-ID: <200512022143.jB2LhFB10333@mozart.unx.sas.com>


I am getting a failure trying to upgrade from 1.4.12 to 1.5.2. I have problems running update.php :

   from update.php:

   ...converting from cur/old to page/revision/text DB structure.
   1133553182......checking for duplicate entries.
   1133553182......Creating tables.
   1133553182......Locking tables.
   1133553182......maxold is 6155
   1133553182......Moving text from cur.
   1133553182......Setting up revision table.
   1133553182......Setting up page table.
   1133553182......Unlocking tables.
   1133553182......Renaming old.
   1133553182...done.
   revision timestamp indexes already up to 2005-03-13
   Adding rev_text_id field... Query "UPDATE revision SET rev_text_id=rev_id" failed with error code "".

Note that my page and revision tables exist at this point but both are empty:

    mysql> show tables;
    +--------------------------+
    | Tables_in_saspediadb_dev |
    +--------------------------+
    | archive                  |
    | blobs                    |
    | brokenlinks              |
    | categorylinks            |
    | cur                      |
    | hitcounter               |
    | image                    |
    | imagelinks               |
    | interwiki                |
    | ipblocks                 |
    | links                    |
    | linkscc                  |
    | logging                  |
    | math                     |
    | objectcache              |
    | oldimage                 |
    | page                     |
    | querycache               |
    | recentchanges            |
    | revision                 |
    | searchindex              |
    | site_stats               |
    | text                     |
    | trackbacks               |
    | transcache               |
    | user                     |
    | user_newtalk             |
    | user_rights              |
    | validate                 |
    | watchlist                |
    +--------------------------+
    30 rows in set (0.00 sec)

    mysql> select * from page;
    Empty set (0.00 sec)

    mysql> select * from revision;
    Empty set (0.00 sec)

I have narrowed this down to execution of the following query from updaters.inc near line 390:

        $wgDatabase->query( "INSERT INTO $revision (rev_id, rev_page, rev_comment, rev_user, rev_user_text, rev_timestamp,
                                rev_minor_edit)
                        SELECT old_id, cur_id, old_comment, old_user, old_user_text,
                                old_timestamp, old_minor_edit
                        FROM $old,$cur WHERE old_namespace=cur_namespace AND old_title=cur_title", $fname );

If I run this query directly via mysql

INSERT INTO revision (rev_id, rev_page, rev_comment, rev_user, rev_user_text, rev_timestamp,
                                rev_minor_edit)
                        SELECT old_id, cur_id, old_comment, old_user, old_user_text,
                                old_timestamp, old_minor_edit
                        FROM old,cur WHERE old_namespace=cur_namespace AND old_title=cur_title;

I get the following error:

  ERROR 1062 (23000): Duplicate entry '5-1' for key 1

How do I correct this so I can convert from 1.4.12 to 1.5?

(Possibly relevant: MySQL bug http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=12695 but I don't know how it may apply)

We're running (Special:Version) :

    MediaWiki (http://wikipedia.sf.net/): 1.4.12 
    PHP (http://www.php.net/): 4.4.1 (apache) 
    MySQL (http://www.mysql.com/): 4.1.7-standard-log

here is what update.php showed before trying to convert the tables:

   # php update.php
   X-Powered-By: PHP/4.1.2
   Content-type: text/html

   Going to run database updates for saspediadb_dev
   Depending on the size of your database this may take a while!
   Abort with control-c in the next five seconds... 5?4?3?2?1?0
   ...hitcounter table already exists.
   ...querycache table already exists.
   ...objectcache table already exists.
   ...categorylinks table already exists.
   ...logging table already exists.
   Creating validate table...ok
   ...user_newtalk table already exists.
   Creating transcache table...ok
   Creating trackbacks table...ok
   ...have ipb_id field in ipblocks table.
   ...have ipb_expiry field in ipblocks table.
   ...have rc_type field in recentchanges table.
   ...have rc_ip field in recentchanges table.
   ...have rc_id field in recentchanges table.
   ...have rc_patrolled field in recentchanges table.
   ...have user_real_name field in user table.
   ...have user_token field in user table.
   Adding user_email_token field to table user...ok
   ...have log_params field in logging table.
   Adding ar_rev_id field to table archive...ok
   Adding ar_text_id field to table archive...ok
   ...page table does not exist, skipping new field patch
   ...revision table does not exist, skipping new field patch
   Adding img_width field to table image...ok
   Adding img_metadata field to table image...ok
   Adding img_media_type field to table image...ok
   ...have val_ip field in validate table.
   ...have ss_total_pages field in site_stats table.
   Adding iw_trans field to table interwiki...ok
   ...already have interwiki table
   ...indexes seem up to 20031107 standards
   Converting links table to ID-ID...
   Schema already converted
   ...image primary key already set.
   The watchlist table is already set up for email notification.
   User table contains old email authentication field. Dropping... ok
   Logging table has correct title encoding.

Thanks for any assistance.

-- 
David J. Biesack     SAS Institute Inc.
(919) 531-7771       SAS Campus Drive
http://www.sas.com   Cary, NC 27513



From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Fri Dec  2 21:52:56 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 21:52:56 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Help to create navigation links
In-Reply-To: <438DA60F.4030803@hsoftware.com>
References: <438DA60F.4030803@hsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512021352m62930c76x@mail.gmail.com>

On 30/11/05, Sandrine CAR <sandrine.car at hsoftware.com> wrote:
> I installed MediaWiki in my company and I would to customize it.
> I would like to add "History navigation links" at the top of the page.
> For exemple : MainPage > MyProject > ProjectDocumentation when I visit
> MainPage, then MyProject page, then ProjectDocumentation page in order
> to quickly return to the last page instead of return to MainPage each time.
> How could I make this in MediaWiki ?

Somebody has hacked together an extension to do exactly this, see
http://public.kitware.com/Wiki/User:Barre/MediaWiki/Extensions/kw_bread_crumbs
I gather that to get it working with 1.5 you'll need to make some
changes, explained on the 'discussion' tab of that page.

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From jama at debianlinux.net  Fri Dec  2 21:53:40 2005
From: jama at debianlinux.net (Jama Poulsen)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 22:53:40 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Help to create navigation links
In-Reply-To: <438DA60F.4030803@hsoftware.com>
References: <438DA60F.4030803@hsoftware.com>
Message-ID: <20051202215340.GE23888@conuropsis.org>

On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 02:15:59PM +0100, Sandrine CAR wrote:
> I installed MediaWiki in my company and I would to customize it.
> I would like to add "History navigation links" at the top of the page.
> For exemple : MainPage > MyProject > ProjectDocumentation when I visit 
> MainPage, then MyProject page, then ProjectDocumentation page in order 
> to quickly return to the last page instead of return to MainPage each time.
> How could I make this in MediaWiki ?

You can use this extension:
http://public.kitware.com/Wiki/User:Barre/MediaWiki/Extensions/kw_bread_crumbs

Jama Poulsen


From jama at debianlinux.net  Fri Dec  2 22:00:16 2005
From: jama at debianlinux.net (Jama Poulsen)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 23:00:16 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Appending content to article end
In-Reply-To: <1133468996.438f5d4412522@webmail.mail.gatech.edu>
References: <1133468996.438f5d4412522@webmail.mail.gatech.edu>
Message-ID: <20051202220016.GF23888@conuropsis.org>

On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 03:29:56PM -0500, Amruta Lonkar wrote:
> I wanted to know how i can add content that obtain from the DB to every
> article in the wiki at the end of the article if i am using the
> ParserAfterstrip hook event to get the DB content.

Have a look at how this is done in the SMWOnParserBeforeStrip() function
in this file (from the SemanticMediaWiki project):

http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/semediawiki/SemanticMediaWiki/extensions/SMW_Hooks.php?rev=1.10&view=auto

Jama Poulsen


From wrcovington at gmail.com  Fri Dec  2 23:28:09 2005
From: wrcovington at gmail.com (Billy Covington)
Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 15:28:09 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Newbie Question: Infoboxes
Message-ID: <11d5adb10512021528u3737a2c6rc9062117fa4f7117@mail.gmail.com>

Hi there wikipeople! Thanks for your help on the installation issues I
was having earlier.

I'm up and running at http://www.singletrackwiki.com however, I'm now
having difficulty finding an article that explains in plain english,
without much mumbo-jumbo, how to create a template for an infobox.

I've looked through http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infobox and also
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Infobox_templates and also
found http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template

The problem however, is, as you may know, I am not a programmer and
have little experience with code other than HTML and CSS... can anyone
explain, or point me to an example that explains more simply how to
create a template for an infobox like the one attached? My brain shut
off when I read "...can be inserted into another page via a process
called transclusion. It is comparable to a subroutine." This is
supposed to be helpful?!? :)

Anyway, thank you in advance for any help you may be able to offer. I
appreciate it greatly.

Attached is what I want to create.

--Billy

From robchur at gmail.com  Sat Dec  3 19:28:03 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 19:28:03 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] upload directory changed
In-Reply-To: <20051202140030.83713.qmail@web80602.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <e92136380512011254rf60f715s@mail.gmail.com>
	<20051202140030.83713.qmail@web80602.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512031128g5e440b97v@mail.gmail.com>

Look at the top of the file; there should be a few lines which are
responsible for preventing users executing the scripts directly.
Comment them out or remove them.


Rob Church

On 02/12/05, Richard Gravois <rgravois at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I copied LocalSetting.php to testsetting.php to see if
> I could echo the actual values but something jumped in
> the way and said:
>
> "This file is part of MediaWiki and is not a valid
> entry point"
>
> I suppose that came from the includes.
>
>
> Is there a php script that will exhibit the settings
> of LocalSettings.php ?
>
> Thanks
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From brion at pobox.com  Sun Dec  4 11:31:59 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 03:31:59 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki 1.5.3 released [SECURITY]
Message-ID: <4392D3AF.4060500@pobox.com>

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

MediaWiki 1.5.3 is a security and bugfix maintenance release.

Validation of the user language option was broken by a code change in
May 2005, opening the possibility of remote code execution as this
parameter is used in forming a class name dynamically created with
eval().

The validation has been corrected in this version. All prior 1.5 release
and prerelease versions are affected; 1.4 and earlier and not affected.

Additionally several bugs have been fixed; see the changelog in the
release notes for a complete list.


Release notes:
http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=375755

Download:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wikipedia/mediawiki-1.5.3.tar.gz?download

MD5 checksum:
fc697787f04208d1842a2c646deca626  mediawiki-1.5.3.tar.gz

SHA-1 checksum:
070189e29ace2ef9ab0589db42ecf849f2b88ee5 mediawiki-1.5.3.tar.gz


Before asking for help, try the FAQ:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ

Low-traffic release announcements mailing list:
http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce

Wiki admin help mailing list:
http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

Bug report system:
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/

Play "stump the developers" live on IRC:
#mediawiki on irc.freenode.net

- -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com / brion @ wikimedia.org)
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From gangleri at wikimagic.com  Sun Dec  4 11:58:30 2005
From: gangleri at wikimagic.com (gangleri)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 12:58:30 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] not able to preserve &nbsp; with copy and past 
Message-ID: <001101c5f8ca$1c16b6a0$561cfea9@gangleri>

Hallo!

at the beginning of
http://yi.wiktionary.org/wiki/project:bugzilla/02042#more_test_links_available_soon
there are three links regarding tests with *Unicode Character NO-BREAK 
SPACE - U+00A0*
  1.. project:bugzilla/02042/ - tried to generate the UTF-8 character with 
"copy and paste" in Firefox
  2.. project:bugzilla/02042/ - tried to generate the UTF-8 character with 
"copy and paste" in Outlook Express
  3.. project:bugzilla/02042/ - tried to generate the UTF-8 character with 
"copy and paste" in Word
  4.. project:bugzilla/02042/  - generated with &#160;
  5.. project:bugzilla/02042/  - generated with &nbsp;

I copied the fourth link on a Windows XP SP2 system

1 in Firefox (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.12) 
Gecko/20050915 Firefox/1.0.7)
2 in Outlook Express
3 in Word

However I was not able to copy &nbsp; and generate the correct link using an 
UTF-8 character.

Is this
a) a MediaWiki character conversion issue
b) an issue related to the operating system
c) an issue related to the used programs

Would be happy about your feedback.

best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
irc://irc.freenode.net/mediawiki
irc://irc.freenode.net/wiktionary
ICQ: 317732084 



From gangleri at wikimagic.com  Sun Dec  4 21:08:50 2005
From: gangleri at wikimagic.com (gangleri)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 22:08:50 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Ideas adding some "browser test links" to
	Special:SiteMatrix
Message-ID: <000c01c5f916$f17328a0$561cfea9@gangleri>

Hallo!

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix is great now.

What about adding some links for browser tests.

a) for each language with a limited number of special UTF-8 characters we 
should store in a common configuration file
a1) a list of characters required to see information in that language
a2) a list of the Unicode blocks that contain that characters
*note* [[zh:]], maybe also ja:]] have a lot of characters

b) We should be able to create a generic page which includes:
b1) a few MediaWiki messages
b2) a test screen area where UTF-8 characters and their images (available at 
commons) should be displayed site by site; visitors can compare what they 
should see and what they see in their browser

Why this requirement?
At the moment I can not see the language names for [[am:]], [[bug:]], 
[[chr:]], [[got:]], [[ii:]], [[iu:]], [[km:]], [[or:]], [[si:]], [[ti:]].

Somehow we should offer the posibility to include also a browser test for 
the "Unicode Characters in the IPA Extensions Block" as made at 
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/block/ipa_extensions/utf8test.htm .

Traying to create http://yi.wiktionary.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Edittools I 
reaslised that I can not see 
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/02ae/index.htm and 
http://www.fileformat.info/info/unicode/char/02af/index.htm in the "IPA 
Extensions Block".

What is your opinion about this?

best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]] 



From brion at pobox.com  Sun Dec  4 23:56:37 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 15:56:37 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Ideas adding some "browser test links"
	to	Special:SiteMatrix
In-Reply-To: <000c01c5f916$f17328a0$561cfea9@gangleri>
References: <000c01c5f916$f17328a0$561cfea9@gangleri>
Message-ID: <43938235.3070200@pobox.com>

gangleri wrote:
> Hallo!
> 
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:SiteMatrix is great now.
> 
> What about adding some links for browser tests.

What would "browser tests" have to do with a list of Wikipedia sites?

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From Evan.M.Miller at williams.edu  Sun Dec  4 20:50:08 2005
From: Evan.M.Miller at williams.edu (Evan Miller)
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 15:50:08 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] yet another google maps extension
Message-ID: <6CE30734-1304-487D-ABD5-FDDF39E85FA0@williams.edu>

Hello,

Google offers an open API for displaying custom information on their  
highly usable map application. This API seems suitable for wikis,  
which is why there are already three MediaWiki extensions for Google  
Maps. But these extensions seemed a bit too rigid for me, needing  
database modifications and RSS feeds and the like just to display  
markers. So I wrote a simple Google Maps extension: to create a map  
with many labeled markers, you just describe one marker per line with  
the format "latitude,longitude,label", and put all of these markers  
inside of a <googlemap> tag. A neat feature is that the marker labels  
will render wiki formatting. Because of its flexibility, I think this  
extension will prove useful in a wide variety of projects; I  
encourage you to try it out and send me feedback.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Emiller/GoogleMapsExtension

Evan Miller
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From michelle.sg1 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 02:45:18 2005
From: michelle.sg1 at gmail.com (Michelle)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:45:18 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Image mime type troubles with 1.5.2
Message-ID: <86E538C9-763D-4891-9B9D-B3BA72B9B018@gmail.com>

After upgrading from 1.4.12 to MW 1.5.2, we found that some of our  
images were no longer displaying, and their pages showed a warning  
about possible malicious code.

I traced the problem to the images' major_mime_type field being blank  
in the image table. Not unknown, but blank. We had to download, re- 
save, and re-upload those 200 or so images. They were created the  
same way as all our others as far as we know (usually from screen  
captures), and they certainly weren't malicious in content.

Any ideas how this happened or how to avoid it? Will the mime  
checking prevent such uploads in the future?

Thanks
Michelle



From brion at pobox.com  Mon Dec  5 02:54:57 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 18:54:57 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Image mime type troubles with 1.5.2
In-Reply-To: <86E538C9-763D-4891-9B9D-B3BA72B9B018@gmail.com>
References: <86E538C9-763D-4891-9B9D-B3BA72B9B018@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4393AC01.80706@pobox.com>

Michelle wrote:
> After upgrading from 1.4.12 to MW 1.5.2, we found that some of our
> images were no longer displaying, and their pages showed a warning about
> possible malicious code.
> 
> I traced the problem to the images' major_mime_type field being blank in
> the image table. Not unknown, but blank. We had to download, re-save,
> and re-upload those 200 or so images. They were created the same way as
> all our others as far as we know (usually from screen captures), and
> they certainly weren't malicious in content.

maintenance/rebuildImages.php

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From wrcovington at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 03:12:05 2005
From: wrcovington at gmail.com (Billy Covington)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 19:12:05 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] yet another google maps extension
In-Reply-To: <6CE30734-1304-487D-ABD5-FDDF39E85FA0@williams.edu>
References: <6CE30734-1304-487D-ABD5-FDDF39E85FA0@williams.edu>
Message-ID: <11d5adb10512041912k1132523as19e5d071e33b3a17@mail.gmail.com>

This is awesome! Although, I'm having some trouble. I've done the
change to LocalSettings.php, and added GoogleMaps.php to the
extensions folder. However, when I add the changes to Skin.php, I get
this error:

Parse error: parse error, unexpected $ in
/home/content/t/h/e/thesteeps/html/singletrackwiki/includes/Skin.php
on line 1348

Here is what that section in Skin.php used to look like before my changes:


	function getHeadScripts() {
		global $wgStylePath, $wgUser, $wgContLang, $wgAllowUserJs, $wgJsMimeType;
		$r = "<script type=\"{$wgJsMimeType}\"
src=\"{$wgStylePath}/common/wikibits.js\"></script>\n";
		if( $wgAllowUserJs && $wgUser->isLoggedIn() ) {
			$userpage = $wgUser->getUserPage();
			$userjs = htmlspecialchars( $this->makeUrl(
				$userpage->getPrefixedText().'/'.$this->getSkinName().'.js',
				'action=raw&ctype='.$wgJsMimeType));
			$r .= '<script type="'.$wgJsMimeType.'" src="'.$userjs."\"></script>\n";
		}
		return $r;
	}


and here is what it looks like after my changes:

	function getHeadScripts() {
		global $wgStylePath, $wgUser, $wgContLang, $wgAllowUserJs,
$wgJsMimeType, $wgScriptPath, $wgRequest, $wgGoogleMapsKey;
		$r = "<script type=\"{$wgJsMimeType}\"
src=\"{$wgStylePath}/common/wikibits.js\"></script>\n";
		if( $wgAllowUserJs && $wgUser->isLoggedIn() ) {
			$userpage = $wgUser->getUserPage();
			$userjs = htmlspecialchars( $this->makeUrl(
				$userpage->getPrefixedText().'/'.$this->getSkinName().'.js',
				'action=raw&ctype='.$wgJsMimeType));
			$r .= '<script type="'.$wgJsMimeType.'" src="'.$userjs."\"></script>\n";
        if (preg_match("/index\.php\//", $wgRequest->getRequestURL())) {
            $r .= "<script
src=\"http://maps.google.com/maps?file=api&v=1&key={$wgGoogleMapsKey}\"
type=\"$wgJsMimeType\"></script>\n";
         }
         return $r;
     }


Am I doing something wrong?


--Billy

On 12/4/05, Evan Miller <Evan.M.Miller at williams.edu> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Google offers an open API for displaying custom information on their
> highly usable map application. This API seems suitable for wikis,
> which is why there are already three MediaWiki extensions for Google
> Maps. But these extensions seemed a bit too rigid for me, needing
> database modifications and RSS feeds and the like just to display
> markers. So I wrote a simple Google Maps extension: to create a map
> with many labeled markers, you just describe one marker per line with
> the format "latitude,longitude,label", and put all of these markers
> inside of a <googlemap> tag. A neat feature is that the marker labels
> will render wiki formatting. Because of its flexibility, I think this
> extension will prove useful in a wide variety of projects; I
> encourage you to try it out and send me feedback.
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Emiller/GoogleMapsExtension
>
> Evan Miller
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
>
>
>


From mauro at carmo.ws  Mon Dec  5 06:06:32 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 22:06:32 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] .htaccess
Message-ID: <20051205060653.47BFC1AC03E0@mail.wikimedia.org>

Hi,

One simple inquire: can I use .htaccess on any folder or it has to be placed
in the root folder? Or it can be set up to be used in one or other way?

Thanks, mauro

-----------------------
Server: * PHP Version 4.3.11-dev;
        * Mediawiki: 1.5.2;
??????? * shared hosting account with www.Godaddy.com,           
          on Linux/Apache 1.3.33

Client station: * Win XP Home Edition SP2;
??????????????? * Browser FireFox;
                * Extensions: Wikipedia 0.5.2 + Google Bar.

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From mauro at carmo.ws  Mon Dec  5 06:38:27 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 22:38:27 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Sud-domains / Linux
Message-ID: <20051205063838.CCF23115837A@mail.wikimedia.org>

Hi all,

 

It is a kind of off topic, but I need one advice here.

 

This is the problem: 

 

On webhost4life I have a sub-domain like 1.carmo.ws which gives this URL:
HYPERLINK
"http://1.carmo.ws/index.php?title=Main_Page"http://1.carmo.ws/index.php?tit
le=Main_Page. Note that the sub-domain remains in its place on the URL. If I
use HYPERLINK "http://www.1.carmo.ws/"www.1.carmo.ws, I get this HYPERLINK
"http://www.1.carmo.ws/index.php?title=Main_Page"http://www.1.carmo.ws/index
.php?title=Main_Page. So, that is perfect. If I have this situation on a
Linux account I would be happy, because I would use .htaccess on the
sub-domain address and all would be as I want.

 

I just bought one hosting plan on Godaddy.com. Linux account. .htaccess
works fine, but? Godaddy treats my sub-domains in an odd way: if I type
1.carmo.ws I would get this URL: HYPERLINK
"http://www.carmo.ws/1/index.php?title=Main_Page"http://www.carmo.ws/1/index
.php?title=Main_Page. Note that they changed my URL. I have no more my
sub-domain in the address bar on my browser. For me, that is a redirection
of my URL without my consent! And it is very odd too.

 

Maybe it is a question of some trick I might have to do with my DNS Record
File configuration. Play with A records or Cnames. I don?t know.

 

Perhaps, some one here has a Linux account on Godaddy.com servers and can
help me out?

 

Perhaps, I should pay more for a better service? I hope not!:)

 

Thanks again for all help, mauro.  

 

--------------------------------------------------------------------

Webhost4live Server: * PHP Version 4.3.11-dev;

                     * Mediawiki: 1.5.2;

                     * shared hosting account with www.Webhost4life.com,


                       on a Windows Server 2003, IIS-based environment.

 

Godaddy Server: * PHP Version 4.3.11-dev;

                * Mediawiki: 1.5.2;

                * shared hosting account with www.Godaddy.com,           

                  on Linux/Apache 1.3.33

 

Client station: * Win XP Home Edition SP2;

                * Browser FireFox;

                * Extensions: Wikipedia 0.5.2 + Google Bar.


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From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 07:27:35 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 07:27:35 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] .htaccess
In-Reply-To: <20051205060653.47BFC1AC03E0@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051205060653.47BFC1AC03E0@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <e92136380512042327x91ce63fn@mail.gmail.com>

An .htaccess file will affect the settings for that directory and any
subdirectories. If subdirectories contain individual .htaccess files,
then the directives within those will override those of the parent.


Rob Church

On 05/12/05, Mauro do Carmo <mauro at carmo.ws> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> One simple inquire: can I use .htaccess on any folder or it has to be placed
> in the root folder? Or it can be set up to be used in one or other way?
>
> Thanks, mauro
>
> -----------------------
> Server: * PHP Version 4.3.11-dev;
>         * Mediawiki: 1.5.2;
>  * shared hosting account with www.Godaddy.com,
>           on Linux/Apache 1.3.33
>
> Client station: * Win XP Home Edition SP2;
>  * Browser FireFox;
>                 * Extensions: Wikipedia 0.5.2 + Google Bar.
>
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> Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.10/189 - Release Date: 11/30/2005
>
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From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 07:51:57 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 07:51:57 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] not able to preserve &nbsp; with copy and past
In-Reply-To: <001101c5f8ca$1c16b6a0$561cfea9@gangleri>
References: <001101c5f8ca$1c16b6a0$561cfea9@gangleri>
Message-ID: <e92136380512042351m4d616fd5s@mail.gmail.com>

Instinct says probably a mixture of B and C, since we're talking copy
and paste. MediaWiki doesn't know copy and paste exists - it's not
something handled with PHP at all.


Rob Church

On 04/12/05, gangleri <gangleri at wikimagic.com> wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> at the beginning of
> http://yi.wiktionary.org/wiki/project:bugzilla/02042#more_test_links_available_soon
> there are three links regarding tests with *Unicode Character NO-BREAK
> SPACE - U+00A0*
>   1.. project:bugzilla/02042/ - tried to generate the UTF-8 character with
> "copy and paste" in Firefox
>   2.. project:bugzilla/02042/ - tried to generate the UTF-8 character with
> "copy and paste" in Outlook Express
>   3.. project:bugzilla/02042/ - tried to generate the UTF-8 character with
> "copy and paste" in Word
>   4.. project:bugzilla/02042/  - generated with &#160;
>   5.. project:bugzilla/02042/  - generated with &nbsp;
>
> I copied the fourth link on a Windows XP SP2 system
>
> 1 in Firefox (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.7.12)
> Gecko/20050915 Firefox/1.0.7)
> 2 in Outlook Express
> 3 in Word
>
> However I was not able to copy &nbsp; and generate the correct link using an
> UTF-8 character.
>
> Is this
> a) a MediaWiki character conversion issue
> b) an issue related to the operating system
> c) an issue related to the used programs
>
> Would be happy about your feedback.
>
> best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
> irc://irc.freenode.net/mediawiki
> irc://irc.freenode.net/wiktionary
> ICQ: 317732084
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From cryptoquick at phyco.org  Mon Dec  5 06:23:41 2005
From: cryptoquick at phyco.org (Alex Trujillo)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 23:23:41 -0700
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] WikiTex: Xymtex install
In-Reply-To: <20051204120353.247B6115866A@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051204120353.247B6115866A@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <ABD5E6D5-7466-4462-8B11-A46745D1B4D2@phyco.org>

Hello; I've been attempting to install the xymtex package for  
WikiTex. I uploaded the entire 17 megabyte package to my webspace,  
then I pasted an example from Wikisophia into a new page:
> <chem>\octamethylene{4==S;5==S}{1W==HO;1D==O;8D==O;8W==OH;2SB==H; 
> 7SA==H;2SA==NH$_2$;7SB==NH$_2$}</chem>

The following error was returned:
> This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5)
> (./2c67c000747b6ff14054bb48ef81ba6e
> LaTeX2e <2001/06/01>
> Babel  and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german,  
> ngerman, n
> ohyphenation, loaded.
> (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls
> Document Class: article 2001/04/21 v1.4e Standard LaTeX document class
> (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo))
>
> ! LaTeX Error: File `xymtex/xymtex.sty' not found.
>
> Type X to quit or  to proceed,
> or enter new name. (Default extension: sty)
>
> Enter file name:
> ! Emergency stop.
>
> l.3 \usepackage
>                {chemist}^^M
> No pages of output.
> Transcript written on 2c67c000747b6ff14054bb48ef81ba6e.log.

I've been trying to fix this all evening. I've been messing with the  
wikitex.chem.inc.tex file.
Also of note, the xymtex directory is within wikitex directory.  
That's why I used "xymtex/xymtex.sty".

Any thoughts are appreciated.

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On Dec 4, 2005, at 5:03 AM, mediawiki-l-request at Wikimedia.org wrote:

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> Today's Topics:
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>    1. Help to create navigation links (Sandrine CAR)
>    2. Announcing Graphviz and Associated Extensions (Gregory Szorc)
>    3. 1.4.12 -> 1.5.2 update failing (David J. Biesack)
>    4. Re: Help to create navigation links (Rowan Collins)
>    5. Re: Help to create navigation links (Jama Poulsen)
>    6. Re: Appending content to article end (Jama Poulsen)
>    7. Newbie Question: Infoboxes (Billy Covington)
>    8. Re: upload directory changed (Rob Church)
>    9. MediaWiki 1.5.3 released [SECURITY] (Brion Vibber)
>   10. not able to preserve &nbsp; with copy and past  (gangleri)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 30 Nov 2005 14:15:59 +0100
> From: Sandrine CAR <sandrine.car at hsoftware.com>
> Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Help to create navigation links
> To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> Message-ID: <438DA60F.4030803 at hsoftware.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> Hi !
>
> I installed MediaWiki in my company and I would to customize it.
> I would like to add "History navigation links" at the top of the page.
> For exemple : MainPage > MyProject > ProjectDocumentation when I visit
> MainPage, then MyProject page, then ProjectDocumentation page in order
> to quickly return to the last page instead of return to MainPage  
> each time.
> How could I make this in MediaWiki ?
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Sandrine
> Paris (France)
>
> -- 
> ---------------------------------
> Sandrine CAR
> Administrateur R?seau
>
> HORIZON SOFTWARE
> 3, rue Meyerbeer
> 75009 Paris
> ---------------------------------
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 02 Dec 2005 12:34:10 -0500
> From: Gregory Szorc <greg at zorro.STUDENT.CWRU.edu>
> Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Announcing Graphviz and Associated Extensions
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> 	<mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID: <43908592.6070207 at zorro.case.edu>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
>
> I have two new extensions to through into the mix:
>
> 1) Graphviz embedding extension.  It generates Graphviz
> (http://www.graphviz.org) images from embedded markup.  Although one
> already exists, I couldn't find the source code, so I wrote a new one.
>
> 2) Graph generating SpecialPage.  This extension allows you to query
> your wiki for both XML and Graphviz markup of subsets of your  
> wiki.  As
> an added bonus, the content can be transparently included in pages so
> dynamic graphs (images) of relations can be generated.
>
> The extensions can be downloaded from
> http://opensource.case.edu/projects/MediaWikiHacks/
> A live example of these extensions is the Case Western Reserve
> University Wiki (http://wiki.case.edu).  Some links of interest are:
> http://wiki.case.edu/Special:Graphs
> http://wiki.case.edu/Category:Staff
> http://wiki.case.edu/Category:ITS_Employees
> http://wiki.case.edu/CaseWiki:Categories
>
> As you can see, for all smaller category pages, a graph of the  
> category
> layout is automatically generated.  (Yes, I know about the font  
> issues).
>
> This extension is a work in progress and is a little rough around the
> edges.  I welcome any input others should provide and am open to
> suggestions for future possibilities.
>
> Gregory Szorc
> gregory.szorc at case.edu
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 16:43:15 -0500 (EST)
> From: "David J. Biesack" <David.Biesack at sas.com>
> Subject: [Mediawiki-l] 1.4.12 -> 1.5.2 update failing
> To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> Message-ID: <200512022143.jB2LhFB10333 at mozart.unx.sas.com>
>
>
> I am getting a failure trying to upgrade from 1.4.12 to 1.5.2. I  
> have problems running update.php :
>
>    from update.php:
>
>    ...converting from cur/old to page/revision/text DB structure.
>    1133553182......checking for duplicate entries.
>    1133553182......Creating tables.
>    1133553182......Locking tables.
>    1133553182......maxold is 6155
>    1133553182......Moving text from cur.
>    1133553182......Setting up revision table.
>    1133553182......Setting up page table.
>    1133553182......Unlocking tables.
>    1133553182......Renaming old.
>    1133553182...done.
>    revision timestamp indexes already up to 2005-03-13
>    Adding rev_text_id field... Query "UPDATE revision SET  
> rev_text_id=rev_id" failed with error code "".
>
> Note that my page and revision tables exist at this point but both  
> are empty:
>
>     mysql> show tables;
>     +--------------------------+
>     | Tables_in_saspediadb_dev |
>     +--------------------------+
>     | archive                  |
>     | blobs                    |
>     | brokenlinks              |
>     | categorylinks            |
>     | cur                      |
>     | hitcounter               |
>     | image                    |
>     | imagelinks               |
>     | interwiki                |
>     | ipblocks                 |
>     | links                    |
>     | linkscc                  |
>     | logging                  |
>     | math                     |
>     | objectcache              |
>     | oldimage                 |
>     | page                     |
>     | querycache               |
>     | recentchanges            |
>     | revision                 |
>     | searchindex              |
>     | site_stats               |
>     | text                     |
>     | trackbacks               |
>     | transcache               |
>     | user                     |
>     | user_newtalk             |
>     | user_rights              |
>     | validate                 |
>     | watchlist                |
>     +--------------------------+
>     30 rows in set (0.00 sec)
>
>     mysql> select * from page;
>     Empty set (0.00 sec)
>
>     mysql> select * from revision;
>     Empty set (0.00 sec)
>
> I have narrowed this down to execution of the following query from  
> updaters.inc near line 390:
>
>         $wgDatabase->query( "INSERT INTO $revision (rev_id,  
> rev_page, rev_comment, rev_user, rev_user_text, rev_timestamp,
>                                 rev_minor_edit)
>                         SELECT old_id, cur_id, old_comment,  
> old_user, old_user_text,
>                                 old_timestamp, old_minor_edit
>                         FROM $old,$cur WHERE  
> old_namespace=cur_namespace AND old_title=cur_title", $fname );
>
> If I run this query directly via mysql
>
> INSERT INTO revision (rev_id, rev_page, rev_comment, rev_user,  
> rev_user_text, rev_timestamp,
>                                 rev_minor_edit)
>                         SELECT old_id, cur_id, old_comment,  
> old_user, old_user_text,
>                                 old_timestamp, old_minor_edit
>                         FROM old,cur WHERE  
> old_namespace=cur_namespace AND old_title=cur_title;
>
> I get the following error:
>
>   ERROR 1062 (23000): Duplicate entry '5-1' for key 1
>
> How do I correct this so I can convert from 1.4.12 to 1.5?
>
> (Possibly relevant: MySQL bug http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php? 
> id=12695 but I don't know how it may apply)
>
> We're running (Special:Version) :
>
>     MediaWiki (http://wikipedia.sf.net/): 1.4.12
>     PHP (http://www.php.net/): 4.4.1 (apache)
>     MySQL (http://www.mysql.com/): 4.1.7-standard-log
>
> here is what update.php showed before trying to convert the tables:
>
>    # php update.php
>    X-Powered-By: PHP/4.1.2
>    Content-type: text/html
>
>    Going to run database updates for saspediadb_dev
>    Depending on the size of your database this may take a while!
>    Abort with control-c in the next five seconds... 5 4 3 2 1 0
>    ...hitcounter table already exists.
>    ...querycache table already exists.
>    ...objectcache table already exists.
>    ...categorylinks table already exists.
>    ...logging table already exists.
>    Creating validate table...ok
>    ...user_newtalk table already exists.
>    Creating transcache table...ok
>    Creating trackbacks table...ok
>    ...have ipb_id field in ipblocks table.
>    ...have ipb_expiry field in ipblocks table.
>    ...have rc_type field in recentchanges table.
>    ...have rc_ip field in recentchanges table.
>    ...have rc_id field in recentchanges table.
>    ...have rc_patrolled field in recentchanges table.
>    ...have user_real_name field in user table.
>    ...have user_token field in user table.
>    Adding user_email_token field to table user...ok
>    ...have log_params field in logging table.
>    Adding ar_rev_id field to table archive...ok
>    Adding ar_text_id field to table archive...ok
>    ...page table does not exist, skipping new field patch
>    ...revision table does not exist, skipping new field patch
>    Adding img_width field to table image...ok
>    Adding img_metadata field to table image...ok
>    Adding img_media_type field to table image...ok
>    ...have val_ip field in validate table.
>    ...have ss_total_pages field in site_stats table.
>    Adding iw_trans field to table interwiki...ok
>    ...already have interwiki table
>    ...indexes seem up to 20031107 standards
>    Converting links table to ID-ID...
>    Schema already converted
>    ...image primary key already set.
>    The watchlist table is already set up for email notification.
>    User table contains old email authentication field. Dropping... ok
>    Logging table has correct title encoding.
>
> Thanks for any assistance.
>
> -- 
> David J. Biesack     SAS Institute Inc.
> (919) 531-7771       SAS Campus Drive
> http://www.sas.com   Cary, NC 27513
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 21:52:56 +0000
> From: Rowan Collins <rowan.collins at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Help to create navigation links
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> 	<mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512021352m62930c76x at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> On 30/11/05, Sandrine CAR <sandrine.car at hsoftware.com> wrote:
>> I installed MediaWiki in my company and I would to customize it.
>> I would like to add "History navigation links" at the top of the  
>> page.
>> For exemple : MainPage > MyProject > ProjectDocumentation when I  
>> visit
>> MainPage, then MyProject page, then ProjectDocumentation page in  
>> order
>> to quickly return to the last page instead of return to MainPage  
>> each time.
>> How could I make this in MediaWiki ?
>
> Somebody has hacked together an extension to do exactly this, see
> http://public.kitware.com/Wiki/User:Barre/MediaWiki/Extensions/ 
> kw_bread_crumbs
> I gather that to get it working with 1.5 you'll need to make some
> changes, explained on the 'discussion' tab of that page.
>
> --
> Rowan Collins BSc
> [IMSoP]
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 22:53:40 +0100
> From: Jama Poulsen <jama at debianlinux.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Help to create navigation links
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> 	<mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID: <20051202215340.GE23888 at conuropsis.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Wed, Nov 30, 2005 at 02:15:59PM +0100, Sandrine CAR wrote:
>> I installed MediaWiki in my company and I would to customize it.
>> I would like to add "History navigation links" at the top of the  
>> page.
>> For exemple : MainPage > MyProject > ProjectDocumentation when I  
>> visit
>> MainPage, then MyProject page, then ProjectDocumentation page in  
>> order
>> to quickly return to the last page instead of return to MainPage  
>> each time.
>> How could I make this in MediaWiki ?
>
> You can use this extension:
> http://public.kitware.com/Wiki/User:Barre/MediaWiki/Extensions/ 
> kw_bread_crumbs
>
> Jama Poulsen
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 23:00:16 +0100
> From: Jama Poulsen <jama at debianlinux.net>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Appending content to article end
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> 	<mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID: <20051202220016.GF23888 at conuropsis.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> On Thu, Dec 01, 2005 at 03:29:56PM -0500, Amruta Lonkar wrote:
>> I wanted to know how i can add content that obtain from the DB to  
>> every
>> article in the wiki at the end of the article if i am using the
>> ParserAfterstrip hook event to get the DB content.
>
> Have a look at how this is done in the SMWOnParserBeforeStrip()  
> function
> in this file (from the SemanticMediaWiki project):
>
> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/semediawiki/SemanticMediaWiki/ 
> extensions/SMW_Hooks.php?rev=1.10&view=auto
>
> Jama Poulsen
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Fri, 2 Dec 2005 15:28:09 -0800
> From: Billy Covington <wrcovington at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Newbie Question: Infoboxes
> To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> Message-ID:
> 	<11d5adb10512021528u3737a2c6rc9062117fa4f7117 at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> Hi there wikipeople! Thanks for your help on the installation issues I
> was having earlier.
>
> I'm up and running at http://www.singletrackwiki.com however, I'm now
> having difficulty finding an article that explains in plain english,
> without much mumbo-jumbo, how to create a template for an infobox.
>
> I've looked through http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Infobox and also
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Infobox_templates and also
> found http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Template
>
> The problem however, is, as you may know, I am not a programmer and
> have little experience with code other than HTML and CSS... can anyone
> explain, or point me to an example that explains more simply how to
> create a template for an infobox like the one attached? My brain shut
> off when I read "...can be inserted into another page via a process
> called transclusion. It is comparable to a subroutine." This is
> supposed to be helpful?!? :)
>
> Anyway, thank you in advance for any help you may be able to offer. I
> appreciate it greatly.
>
> Attached is what I want to create.
>
> --Billy
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Sat, 3 Dec 2005 19:28:03 +0000
> From: Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] upload directory changed
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> 	<mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID: <e92136380512031128g5e440b97v at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Look at the top of the file; there should be a few lines which are
> responsible for preventing users executing the scripts directly.
> Comment them out or remove them.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 02/12/05, Richard Gravois <rgravois at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> I copied LocalSetting.php to testsetting.php to see if
>> I could echo the actual values but something jumped in
>> the way and said:
>>
>> "This file is part of MediaWiki and is not a valid
>> entry point"
>>
>> I suppose that came from the includes.
>>
>>
>> Is there a php script that will exhibit the settings
>> of LocalSettings.php ?
>>
>> Thanks
>> _______________________________________________
>> MediaWiki-l mailing list
>> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Sun, 04 Dec 2005 03:31:59 -0800
> From: Brion Vibber <brion at pobox.com>
> Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki 1.5.3 released [SECURITY]
> To: mediawiki-announce at wikimedia.org, mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org,
> 	wikitech-l at wikimedia.org
> Message-ID: <4392D3AF.4060500 at pobox.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
> Hash: SHA1
>
> MediaWiki 1.5.3 is a security and bugfix maintenance release.
>
> Validation of the user language option was broken by a code change in
> May 2005, opening the possibility of remote code execution as this
> parameter is used in forming a class name dynamically created with
> eval().
>
> The validation has been corrected in this version. All prior 1.5  
> release
> and prerelease versions are affected; 1.4 and earlier and not  
> affected.
>
> Additionally several bugs have been fixed; see the changelog in the
> release notes for a complete list.
>
>
> Release notes:
> http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=375755
>
> Download:
> http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wikipedia/mediawiki-1.5.3.tar.gz? 
> download
>
> MD5 checksum:
> fc697787f04208d1842a2c646deca626  mediawiki-1.5.3.tar.gz
>
> SHA-1 checksum:
> 070189e29ace2ef9ab0589db42ecf849f2b88ee5 mediawiki-1.5.3.tar.gz
>
>
> Before asking for help, try the FAQ:
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ
>
> Low-traffic release announcements mailing list:
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce
>
> Wiki admin help mailing list:
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
> Bug report system:
> http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/
>
> Play "stump the developers" live on IRC:
> #mediawiki on irc.freenode.net
>
> - -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com / brion @ wikimedia.org)
> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
> Version: GnuPG v1.2.4 (Darwin)
> Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org
>
> iD8DBQFDktOvwRnhpk1wk44RAi/tAJ9NlfTJTqW+9xTC6xaeOple14hFLQCgpyBn
> /hIyYleol9gFbHfMgzJCyy8=
> =fdzu
> -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 12:58:30 +0100
> From: "gangleri" <gangleri at wikimagic.com>
> Subject: [Mediawiki-l] not able to preserve &nbsp; with copy and past
> To: "mediawiki-l @ wikimedia.org" <mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID: <001101c5f8ca$1c16b6a0$561cfea9 at gangleri>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
> 	reply-type=original
>
> Hallo!
>
> at the beginning of
> http://yi.wiktionary.org/wiki/project:bugzilla/ 
> 02042#more_test_links_available_soon
> there are three links regarding tests with *Unicode Character NO-BREAK
> SPACE - U+00A0*
>   1.. project:bugzilla/02042/ - tried to generate the UTF-8  
> character with
> "copy and paste" in Firefox
>   2.. project:bugzilla/02042/ - tried to generate the UTF-8  
> character with
> "copy and paste" in Outlook Express
>   3.. project:bugzilla/02042/ - tried to generate the UTF-8  
> character with
> "copy and paste" in Word
>   4.. project:bugzilla/02042/  - generated with &#160;
>   5.. project:bugzilla/02042/  - generated with &nbsp;
>
> I copied the fourth link on a Windows XP SP2 system
>
> 1 in Firefox (Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv: 
> 1.7.12)
> Gecko/20050915 Firefox/1.0.7)
> 2 in Outlook Express
> 3 in Word
>
> However I was not able to copy &nbsp; and generate the correct link  
> using an
> UTF-8 character.
>
> Is this
> a) a MediaWiki character conversion issue
> b) an issue related to the operating system
> c) an issue related to the used programs
>
> Would be happy about your feedback.
>
> best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
> irc://irc.freenode.net/mediawiki
> irc://irc.freenode.net/wiktionary
> ICQ: 317732084
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
>
> End of MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 27, Issue 6
> ******************************************
>
>



From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 07:56:36 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 07:56:36 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] WikiTex: Xymtex install
In-Reply-To: <ABD5E6D5-7466-4462-8B11-A46745D1B4D2@phyco.org>
References: <20051204120353.247B6115866A@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<ABD5E6D5-7466-4462-8B11-A46745D1B4D2@phyco.org>
Message-ID: <e92136380512042356n2a584b35g@mail.gmail.com>

Well, let's ask the obvious questions, then. Does the file it's
looking for exist? Try altering the paths a little. Can the
directory/file be written to (if TeX needs to write to it)?


Rob Church

On 05/12/05, Alex Trujillo <cryptoquick at phyco.org> wrote:
> Hello; I've been attempting to install the xymtex package for
> WikiTex. I uploaded the entire 17 megabyte package to my webspace,
> then I pasted an example from Wikisophia into a new page:
> > <chem>\octamethylene{4==S;5==S}{1W==HO;1D==O;8D==O;8W==OH;2SB==H;
> > 7SA==H;2SA==NH$_2$;7SB==NH$_2$}</chem>
>
> The following error was returned:
> > This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5)
> > (./2c67c000747b6ff14054bb48ef81ba6e
> > LaTeX2e <2001/06/01>
> > Babel  and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german,
> > ngerman, n
> > ohyphenation, loaded.
> > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls
> > Document Class: article 2001/04/21 v1.4e Standard LaTeX document class
> > (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo))
> >
> > ! LaTeX Error: File `xymtex/xymtex.sty' not found.
> >
> > Type X to quit or  to proceed,
> > or enter new name. (Default extension: sty)
> >
> > Enter file name:
> > ! Emergency stop.
> >
> > l.3 \usepackage
> >                {chemist}^^M
> > No pages of output.
> > Transcript written on 2c67c000747b6ff14054bb48ef81ba6e.log.
>
> I've been trying to fix this all evening. I've been messing with the
> wikitex.chem.inc.tex file.
> Also of note, the xymtex directory is within wikitex directory.
> That's why I used "xymtex/xymtex.sty".
>
> Any thoughts are appreciated.
>
> ---
> Phyco.org: For A Phyco Future.


From gordon.joly at pobox.com  Mon Dec  5 09:39:20 2005
From: gordon.joly at pobox.com (Gordon Joly)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 09:39:20 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Small problem with main.css in /skins/monobook/
Message-ID: <p0623090fbfb9b994a51f@[192.168.116.8]>


If I set the x or y offset of a background image to non zero, and 
also set "repeat", then image does not appear (the background appears 
white).

That is, I change

body {
     font: x-small sans-serif;
     background: #f9f9f9 url(headbg.jpg) 0 0 no-repeat;
     color: black;
     margin: 0;
     padding: 0;
}

to

body {
     font: x-small sans-serif;
     background: #f9f9f9 url(headbg.jpg) 10 5 repeat;
     color: black;
     margin: 0;
     padding: 0;
}


This seems to happen is in 1.5.2 and 1.5.3 (at least). It had worked 
well in previous versions.

-- 
Gordo (aka LoopZilla)
gordon.joly at pobox.com
http://pobox.com/~gordo/
http://www.loopzilla.org/


From mischa2023 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 10:22:36 2005
From: mischa2023 at gmail.com (Mischa Peters)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:22:36 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
Message-ID: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

Is it possible to have someone approve their email address first
before they are allowed in?
So pretty much what I had to do to get access to this mailinglist.

Thanx!!

Mischa


From gordon.joly at pobox.com  Mon Dec  5 11:47:58 2005
From: gordon.joly at pobox.com (Gordon Joly)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:47:58 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Small problem with main.css in /skins/monobook/
In-Reply-To: <p0623090fbfb9b994a51f@[192.168.116.8]>
References: <p0623090fbfb9b994a51f@[192.168.116.8]>
Message-ID: <p0623091ebfb9d94e3776@[192.168.116.8]>

At 09:39 +0000 5/12/05, Gordon Joly wrote:
>If I set the x or y offset of a background image to non zero, and 
>also set "repeat", then image does not appear (the background 
>appears white).
>
>That is, I change
>
>body {
>     font: x-small sans-serif;
>     background: #f9f9f9 url(headbg.jpg) 0 0 no-repeat;
>     color: black;
>     margin: 0;
>     padding: 0;
>}
>
>to
>
>body {
>     font: x-small sans-serif;
>     background: #f9f9f9 url(headbg.jpg) 10 5 repeat;
>     color: black;
>     margin: 0;
>     padding: 0;
>}
>
>This seems to happen is in 1.5.2 and 1.5.3 (at least). It had worked 
>well in previous versions.


Perhaps I have omitted the px...

   background: #f9f9f9 url(headbg.jpg) 10px 5px repeat;


-- 
Gordo (aka LoopZilla)
gordon.joly at pobox.com
http://pobox.com/~gordo/
http://www.loopzilla.org/


From barberi at democritos.it  Mon Dec  5 12:24:59 2005
From: barberi at democritos.it (Gabriele Barberi)
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 13:24:59 +0100
Subject: AW: [Mediawiki-l]  Userspaces and groups permissions
In-Reply-To: <20051129160008.BA3E91950231@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051129160008.BA3E91950231@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <4394319B.9050209@democritos.it>

Thanks a lot for all the replies, the solution pointed out by
Torsten Schmidt works pretty fine for me.

Best regards,
Gabriele


From garydh at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 13:03:08 2005
From: garydh at gmail.com (Gary H)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 23:03:08 +1000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past installation successful page
Message-ID: <560948960512050503j1b94c71fsdfab1a50b3a9404@mail.gmail.com>

Hi,

I installed MediaWiki 1.5.3 and everything went smoothly. But now it
wont let me past the installation successful page when I go to
index.php, index.php/, or even just the directory /. I have moved the
LocalSettings.php file from /config to the wikis root by downloading
it and re-uploading it. Any ideas?

Thanks, Gary.


--
*** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***


From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 13:38:10 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:38:10 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past installation successful page
In-Reply-To: <560948960512050503j1b94c71fsdfab1a50b3a9404@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560948960512050503j1b94c71fsdfab1a50b3a9404@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512050538n6e884f08r@mail.gmail.com>

You need to *move* the file. In your case, make sure that there's a
/LocalSettings.php and then delete /config/LocalSettings.php.

MediaWiki checks to see whether config/LocalSettings.php exists upon
execution. If it does, it raises this as a possible problem which
needs to be addressed. Other such cases include having no
LocalSettings.php file, etc.


Rob Church

On 05/12/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I installed MediaWiki 1.5.3 and everything went smoothly. But now it
> wont let me past the installation successful page when I go to
> index.php, index.php/, or even just the directory /. I have moved the
> LocalSettings.php file from /config to the wikis root by downloading
> it and re-uploading it. Any ideas?
>
> Thanks, Gary.
>
>
> --
> *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 13:47:53 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:47:53 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Small problem with main.css in /skins/monobook/
In-Reply-To: <p0623091ebfb9d94e3776@192.168.116.8>
References: <p0623090fbfb9b994a51f@192.168.116.8>
	<p0623091ebfb9d94e3776@192.168.116.8>
Message-ID: <e92136380512050547t7df64cbak@mail.gmail.com>

Does the problem persist if you create separate background directives, e.g.

body {
    font: x-small sans-serif;
    /*background: #f9f9f9 url(headbg.jpg) 10 5 repeat;*/
    background-color: #F9F9F9;
    background-image: url(headbg.jpg);
    background-repeat: repeat;
    color: black;
    margin: 0;
    padding: 0;
}


Rob Church

On 05/12/05, Gordon Joly <gordon.joly at pobox.com> wrote:
> At 09:39 +0000 5/12/05, Gordon Joly wrote:
> >If I set the x or y offset of a background image to non zero, and
> >also set "repeat", then image does not appear (the background
> >appears white).
> >
> >That is, I change
> >
> >body {
> >     font: x-small sans-serif;
> >     background: #f9f9f9 url(headbg.jpg) 0 0 no-repeat;
> >     color: black;
> >     margin: 0;
> >     padding: 0;
> >}
> >
> >to
> >
> >body {
> >     font: x-small sans-serif;
> >     background: #f9f9f9 url(headbg.jpg) 10 5 repeat;
> >     color: black;
> >     margin: 0;
> >     padding: 0;
> >}
> >
> >This seems to happen is in 1.5.2 and 1.5.3 (at least). It had worked
> >well in previous versions.
>
>
> Perhaps I have omitted the px...
>
>    background: #f9f9f9 url(headbg.jpg) 10px 5px repeat;
>
>
> --
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From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 13:49:09 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:49:09 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>

You can instruct MediaWiki to require verification of email addresses
entered in user preferences. With a little hacking, you could modify
the login functions in User.php to check the user's validation hash,
and see if they've been validated. If not, then you would reject
login.


Rob Church

On 05/12/05, Mischa Peters <mischa2023 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> Is it possible to have someone approve their email address first
> before they are allowed in?
> So pretty much what I had to do to get access to this mailinglist.
>
> Thanx!!
>
> Mischa
> _______________________________________________
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> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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From mischa2023 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 14:47:05 2005
From: mischa2023 at gmail.com (Mischa Peters)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 15:47:05 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e2c462550512050647o7a451bew813638d076019dc7@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Rob,

> You can instruct MediaWiki to require verification of email addresses
> entered in user preferences. With a little hacking, you could modify
> the login functions in User.php to check the user's validation hash,
> and see if they've been validated. If not, then you would reject
> login.

Thanx for that. I will have a look at the User.php.
Do you know of the top of your head what the string is that I need to verify?

I am a little surprised that this is not default functionality. :)

Mischa


From mischa2023 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 15:09:41 2005
From: mischa2023 at gmail.com (Mischa Peters)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 16:09:41 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>

> You can instruct MediaWiki to require verification of email addresses
> entered in user preferences. With a little hacking, you could modify
> the login functions in User.php to check the user's validation hash,
> and see if they've been validated. If not, then you would reject
> login.

One more question in regards to this.
How can you enforce people to fill in their email address?
I haven't been able to find anything on that yet.

Mischa


From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 15:36:52 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 15:36:52 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>

By default, no it's not enforced, and that's because Wikimedia is
about open editing, etc. You'll have to hack at the code to enforce
email addresses.


Rob Church

On 05/12/05, Mischa Peters <mischa2023 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > You can instruct MediaWiki to require verification of email addresses
> > entered in user preferences. With a little hacking, you could modify
> > the login functions in User.php to check the user's validation hash,
> > and see if they've been validated. If not, then you would reject
> > login.
>
> One more question in regards to this.
> How can you enforce people to fill in their email address?
> I haven't been able to find anything on that yet.
>
> Mischa
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From G.Bierens at fontys.nl  Mon Dec  5 16:03:38 2005
From: G.Bierens at fontys.nl (G.Bierens at fontys.nl)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:03:38 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] how to copy Special:Allmessages to another wiki
Message-ID: <399E1B1730511340ACC9D56B848CFF6524436E@KOOTENAY.medewerker.fontys.local>

Just got access to the commandline from my hostingprovider, question now
is, how do I execute rebuildMessages.php ?

thanx,
Gerard
-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] Namens Rob Church
Verzonden: woensdag 30 november 2005 17:28
Aan: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Onderwerp: Re: [Mediawiki-l] how to copy Special:Allmessages to another
wiki

1.5.x and later versions should offer a PHP view under
Special:Allmessages. You can copy and paste this into the
LanguageXX.php file (backup first) in the right place, then run
rebuildMessages.php.


Rob Church

On 30/11/05, G.Bierens at fontys.nl <G.Bierens at fontys.nl> wrote:
> I've tried Jama's solution, but it doesn't work for me. I ended up
> reinstalling MediaWiki from scratch. Anybody knows another way to do
> this?
>
> --Gerard
>
> -----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
> Van: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] Namens Jama Poulsen
> Verzonden: maandag 28 november 2005 0:57
> Aan: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Onderwerp: Re: [Mediawiki-l] how to copy Special:Allmessages to
another
> wiki
>
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2005 at 10:06:32PM +0100, G.Bierens at fontys.nl wrote:
> > I've been finetuning the systemmessages in one wiki, now I want to
use
> them in another wiki which is on a different server. I tried using
> PHPmyAdmin to copy the table 'text' from one wiki to the other, but
that
> does not seem to work. The 'text'-table is 4.2 Mb big, to big maybe or
> is this not the right way at all?
> >
> > Anybody knows how to solve this?
>
> [I don't claim this will work, but its a start]
>
> The system messages (in MW 1.5+) are stored in the "xx_page" table,
and
> cached as one blob in "xx_objectcache" (keyname:
> "yourwikiname:messages").
>
> You'll need to extract all the rows for the Mediawiki namespace:
>
>   SELECT *
>   FROM `xx_text`
>   WHERE `page_namespace` =8
>
> Then you'll need to delete the pages in that namespace from the other
> DB,
> and insert the exported pages (without having ID clashes).
>
> Now you'll also need to remove the cached object and re-edit your
> "Special:Allmessages" page, so the objectcache blob is restored.
>
> And ofcourse before you start, make tested backups.
>
> Jama Poulsen
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From kent at lusobraz.com  Mon Dec  5 16:57:37 2005
From: kent at lusobraz.com (Kent S. Larsen II)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:57:37 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <a0620072dbfba1ecc9a88@[192.168.1.6]>

At 3:36 PM +0000 12/5/05, Rob wrote:
>By default, no it's not enforced, and that's because Wikimedia is
>about open editing, etc. You'll have to hack at the code to enforce
>email addresses.
>
>
>Rob Church
>

Rob, I don't think that restricting editing is the reason why so many users
are looking for email verification. Its more to reduce fraud and slander
and increase the ability to trace who is saying what.

You may have seen the following horror story:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2005-11-29-wikipedia-edit_x.htm

Personally, I like the collaborative nature of mediawiki, and I have argued
elsewhere that Wikipedia is so large now that it simply can't be ignored by
those online (I argued this to an academic community -- many ended up
accepting the fact). But the fact that an anonymous person can post a lie
or misrepresentation or rumor to Wikipedia or any wiki without disclosing
their identity makes it a tough sell to anyone worried about liability, let
alone the quality of the information they provide. FWIW, the biggest
problem that academics have with the Internet in general, and Wikipedia in
particular is that it can't be verified and authenticated.

Since it is already possible to restrict editing mediawiki to regisistered
users, seems like a simple, useful thing to add authentication of the email
address.

I apologize if this is really off topic for this list -- but you kind of
brought up the subject by assuming that Mischa was against 'open' editing.
I don't know what his wiki is about or what his policies are, but I don't
think enforcing a valid email address conflicts with 'open editing.'

Kent





From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 16:58:22 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:58:22 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] .htaccess
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512042327x91ce63fn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051205060653.47BFC1AC03E0@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<e92136380512042327x91ce63fn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512050858l18cfe2f4j770429ba6221d6a7@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/5/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> An .htaccess file will affect the settings for that directory and any
> subdirectories. If subdirectories contain individual .htaccess files,
> then the directives within those will override those of the parent.

As a first approximation, however it's possible that overriding won't
be allowed depending on allowoverride directives in either the apache
configuration file, or .htaccess files in containing directories.

--
Rick DeNatale

Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/


From wikilegal at inbox.org  Mon Dec  5 18:18:17 2005
From: wikilegal at inbox.org (Anthony DiPierro)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:18:17 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <a0620072dbfba1ecc9a88@192.168.1.6>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
	<a0620072dbfba1ecc9a88@192.168.1.6>
Message-ID: <71cd4dd90512051018w73c85f18mea5118d305c5f749@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/5/05, Kent S. Larsen II <kent at lusobraz.com> wrote:
> At 3:36 PM +0000 12/5/05, Rob wrote:
> >By default, no it's not enforced, and that's because Wikimedia is
> >about open editing, etc. You'll have to hack at the code to enforce
> >email addresses.
> >
> >
> >Rob Church
> >
>
> Rob, I don't think that restricting editing is the reason why so many users
> are looking for email verification. Its more to reduce fraud and slander
> and increase the ability to trace who is saying what.
>
How can you reduce fraud and slander and increase the ability to trace
who is saying what without restricting editing?  If you can think of a
way to do this, I'd like to hear it.

> You may have seen the following horror story:
>
> http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2005-11-29-wikipedia-edit_x.htm
>
Someone posted something false about someone else on the internet.  At
least, I think it was false.  The opening paragraph seemed completely
true.  I don't particularly see the "horror", though.

> Personally, I like the collaborative nature of mediawiki, and I have argued
> elsewhere that Wikipedia is so large now that it simply can't be ignored by
> those online (I argued this to an academic community -- many ended up
> accepting the fact). But the fact that an anonymous person can post a lie
> or misrepresentation or rumor to Wikipedia or any wiki without disclosing
> their identity makes it a tough sell to anyone worried about liability, let
> alone the quality of the information they provide. FWIW, the biggest
> problem that academics have with the Internet in general, and Wikipedia in
> particular is that it can't be verified and authenticated.
>
You say this as though academics in general have this problem with the
Internet.  That's very far from being true.  The Internet certainly
facilitates anonymous communication, but many if not most academics
see this as a good thing.

> Since it is already possible to restrict editing mediawiki to regisistered
> users, seems like a simple, useful thing to add authentication of the email
> address.
>
I agree.  It'd be a useful feature.  And according to Rob Church it's
a feature already in the system.  It's not the default, because
mediawiki is *wiki* software, and it's not a very wiki-like thing to
restrict editing.

> I apologize if this is really off topic for this list -- but you kind of
> brought up the subject by assuming that Mischa was against 'open' editing.
> I don't know what his wiki is about or what his policies are, but I don't
> think enforcing a valid email address conflicts with 'open editing.'
>
> Kent

I don't see how it's not obvious how enforcing a valid email address
conflicts with "open editing".  In one instance, anyone can edit
without restriction.  In the other, people can only edit after they
have had someone "approve their email address".  That the former is
more "open" than the latter falls pretty much from the definition of
openness, "Accessible to all; unrestricted as to participants".  This
isn't a value judgement as to whether closed or open is better.  It's
just a fact that wikis (at least historically) try to be as open as
possible.

Anthony


From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 18:19:32 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 18:19:32 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <a0620072dbfba1ecc9a88@192.168.1.6>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
	<a0620072dbfba1ecc9a88@192.168.1.6>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512051019o680ba890u@mail.gmail.com>

On 05/12/05, Mischa Peters <mischa2023 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am a little surprised that this is not default functionality. :)

First of all, can I point all those reading this thread to the
discussion of "bug 2065"
[http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2065] about making
exactly this option available "not for Wikipedia use, but a
configurable option". It includes links to some of the discussions of
why this proposal has been shot down in the past with reference to
Wikipedia itself.



On 05/12/05, Kent S. Larsen II <kent at lusobraz.com> wrote:
> Rob, I don't think that restricting editing is the reason why so many users
> are looking for email verification. Its more to reduce fraud and slander
> and increase the ability to trace who is saying what.

The problem with this argument is that e-mail addresses are in general
no more traceable than the IP addresses that any website can already
log at will. Consider the ease with which someone can create a
hotmail, yahoo! mail, or similar account, not to mention the existence
of sites like mailinator.com, spambob.com, and the like, which offer
completely open and anonymous addresses.

Some previous proposals have been driven to suggest complex
blacklist/whitelist systems to rule out registering with such
"disposable" e-mail addresses, but I'm not convinced that this is even
technically feasible, and it would certainly result in far more people
being discouraged from editting, due to the hoops they'd have to jump
through to do so.

> You may have seen the following horror story:
 http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2005-11-29-wikipedia-edit_x.htm

For those who haven't yet come upon it, a journalist discovered that
the entry about him on Wikipedia was inaccurate to the point of
libellous; he then decried the fact that he didn't know who to sue,
and blamed Wikipedia for not telling him (and the government for not
letting him sue Wikimedia as a publisher). Firstly, as someone on
Wikipedia-l pointed out, this is no different from just about the
whole of the Internet - a libellous comment on Geocities would be
equally untraceable, with the only difference being that Wikipedia is
more prominent and therefore potentially more damaging.

Now, imagine for a moment that instead of either an IP or a
meaningless screen-name, he was able to extract an e-mail address
attached to that edit (presumably after going through some due process
with the site's admins); would he have been better off? The e-mail
address might be foobar at yahoo.com, or bob at hotmail.com, or
yousuck at mailinator.com, or perhaps an ISP-based address that was no
longer valid. In the first 2 cases, he would have the option of
demanding information from Yahoo! or MSN - this would probably consist
of another IP address, plus some fake name and address details. In the
last case, he would need to find out at what date the account was
registered (meaning Wikipedia would need to have stored this
information), and demand that the ISP tell him who held the named
account at that time - which really amounts to little more than
demanding to know who was assigned a particular IP address at a
particular time.

Re-reading the article, it seems he even *had* the IP address
(presumably the user was not logged in, leaving this plain to see) and
therefore knows the ISP of the user. Since this is, realistically, the
most he'd get out of an e-mail address *anyway*, I don't see that
automated approval would leave anyone better off in such cases.

> Since it is already possible to restrict editing mediawiki to regisistered
> users, seems like a simple, useful thing to add authentication of the email
> address.

Restricting to registered users is itself, in some quarters,
controversial, but in as much as it has any benefit it is in acting as
a "speed bump" or "prickly hedge" - people have to be pretty
determined in order to go through the process of registering just to
vandalise a page. Of course, it also puts off people wanting to make
passing corrections or improvements to the page - I know I've clicked
"edit" on a number of wikis only to abandon when told I need to
register - but this is a trade-off that site administrators have to
consider.

If there is any value in having e-mail approval as part of the
registration process, it is that it raises the entry barrier still
higher - making the hedge even pricklier, in a sense - so that only
really dedicated would-be-users (both good and bad intentioned) will
get through. Maybe allowing site admins to play with this
configuration would be worthwhile, but I remain unconvinced that
actually flicking that switch would have a positive effect.

> I apologize if this is really off topic for this list -- but you kind of
> brought up the subject by assuming that Mischa was against 'open' editing.
> I don't know what his wiki is about or what his policies are, but I don't
> think enforcing a valid email address conflicts with 'open editing.'

Well, whatever the intentions behind it, such enforcement would
actively discourage users from editting pages, by making it harder for
them to do so. In as much as 'open editting' means encouraging as many
users as possible to edit, it is thus at the very least "a step away
from" that principle - for better or worse.

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 18:29:19 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 18:29:19 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] how to copy Special:Allmessages to another wiki
In-Reply-To: <399E1B1730511340ACC9D56B848CFF6524436E@KOOTENAY.medewerker.fontys.local>
References: <399E1B1730511340ACC9D56B848CFF6524436E@KOOTENAY.medewerker.fontys.local>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512051029n601a129j@mail.gmail.com>

On 05/12/05, G.Bierens at fontys.nl <G.Bierens at fontys.nl> wrote:
> Just got access to the commandline from my hostingprovider, question now
> is, how do I execute rebuildMessages.php ?

1) create an "AdminSettings.php" file (see AdminSettings.sample for
what should be in it, and your LocalSettings.php if you can't remember
what the username and password should be).

2) type the following at your command line:
cd [path to your mediawiki/]maintenance
php rebuildMessages.php

3) Read the resulting message to work out which exact options you want.

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From wikilegal at inbox.org  Mon Dec  5 18:37:44 2005
From: wikilegal at inbox.org (Anthony DiPierro)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 13:37:44 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <71cd4dd90512051018w73c85f18mea5118d305c5f749@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
	<a0620072dbfba1ecc9a88@192.168.1.6>
	<71cd4dd90512051018w73c85f18mea5118d305c5f749@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <71cd4dd90512051037m4094457dvfd9b9454705f2f68@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/5/05, Anthony DiPierro <wikilegal at inbox.org> wrote:
> On 12/5/05, Kent S. Larsen II <kent at lusobraz.com> wrote:
> > At 3:36 PM +0000 12/5/05, Rob wrote:
> > You may have seen the following horror story:
> >
> > http://www.usatoday.com/news/opinion/editorials/2005-11-29-wikipedia-edit_x.htm
> >
> Someone posted something false about someone else on the internet.  At
> least, I think it was false.  The opening paragraph seemed completely
> true.  I don't particularly see the "horror", though.
>
I should add that knowing the email address of the person who added
that information to Wikipedia would almost certainly have accomplished
no more than knowing the IP address.  Either way it would take a
subpoena from the ISP (of the IP address or the email address) to
determine the person's actual identity.  There would still need to be
a John Doe lawsuit filed, and you'd still have to convince a judge
that the John Doe actually did something wrong (saying "For a brief
time, [someone] was thought to have been directly involved in the
Kennedy assassinations of both John, and his brother, Bobby" is *not*
libel, in itself, and a court shouldn't and probably wouldn't grant a
subpoena simply based on that).

Anthony


From mischa2023 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 20:23:30 2005
From: mischa2023 at gmail.com (Mischa Peters)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 21:23:30 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e2c462550512051223h2e4df978m94c8ad728d4403e0@mail.gmail.com>

> By default, no it's not enforced, and that's because Wikimedia is
> about open editing, etc. You'll have to hack at the code to enforce
> email addresses.

I understand the open editing thing. But I don't want to have people
register with bogus accounts. As long as their email address exist I
don't mind what they type.
I don't see how that impacts the openess of a Wiki in general.

Mischa


From sy1234 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 20:27:01 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 20:27:01 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Making the recent changes administrator-only
Message-ID: <1e55af990512051227q65bf69f5n9306f4116f62acfd@mail.gmail.com>

Is there an easy way to shift certain special pages to only be
administrator accessible?  I'm specifically interested in making the
recent changes private.

(No, I'm not interested in removing it from the sidebar.. that's been
done.  I also maintain a manual change news page)


From mischa2023 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 20:27:41 2005
From: mischa2023 at gmail.com (Mischa Peters)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 21:27:41 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <a0620072dbfba1ecc9a88@192.168.1.6>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
	<a0620072dbfba1ecc9a88@192.168.1.6>
Message-ID: <e2c462550512051227n49af4f41x1e2d79e97c1ca97b@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Kent,

[snip]

> I apologize if this is really off topic for this list -- but you kind of
> brought up the subject by assuming that Mischa was against 'open' editing.
> I don't know what his wiki is about or what his policies are, but I don't
> think enforcing a valid email address conflicts with 'open editing.'

I am running different wiki's, one is more open then the other. But I
would still like to know who is adding what and not just know their
"nickname".

Mischa


From mischa2023 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 20:30:16 2005
From: mischa2023 at gmail.com (Mischa Peters)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 21:30:16 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <71cd4dd90512051018w73c85f18mea5118d305c5f749@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
	<a0620072dbfba1ecc9a88@192.168.1.6>
	<71cd4dd90512051018w73c85f18mea5118d305c5f749@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e2c462550512051230j535de8emcf494d61ad746da7@mail.gmail.com>

> > Since it is already possible to restrict editing mediawiki to regisistered
> > users, seems like a simple, useful thing to add authentication of the email
> > address.
> >
> I agree.  It'd be a useful feature.  And according to Rob Church it's
> a feature already in the system.  It's not the default, because
> mediawiki is *wiki* software, and it's not a very wiki-like thing to
> restrict editing.

Could someone explain to me why an email verification of the user that
is about to edit on your wiki is restricting editing?!

Mischa


From sechan at amazon.com  Mon Dec  5 20:50:22 2005
From: sechan at amazon.com (Sechan, Gabe)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 12:50:22 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
Message-ID: <00C14A1BA7454D4099D19923AA7FE21B06EA7918@ex-mail-sea-04.ant.amazon.com>

Is that really useful, considering how easy it is to set up a yahoo/hotmail/gmail/whatever else account?

Gabe 

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mischa Peters
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 12:28 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login

Hi Kent,

[snip]

> I apologize if this is really off topic for this list -- but you kind 
> of brought up the subject by assuming that Mischa was against 'open' editing.
> I don't know what his wiki is about or what his policies are, but I 
> don't think enforcing a valid email address conflicts with 'open editing.'

I am running different wiki's, one is more open then the other. But I would still like to know who is adding what and not just know their "nickname".

Mischa
_______________________________________________
MediaWiki-l mailing list
MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l




From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 20:58:21 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 20:58:21 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] .htaccess
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0512050858l18cfe2f4j770429ba6221d6a7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051205060653.47BFC1AC03E0@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<e92136380512042327x91ce63fn@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0512050858l18cfe2f4j770429ba6221d6a7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512051258p7e3474bal@mail.gmail.com>

Yes. Should have mentioned that too.


Rob Church

On 05/12/05, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/5/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > An .htaccess file will affect the settings for that directory and any
> > subdirectories. If subdirectories contain individual .htaccess files,
> > then the directives within those will override those of the parent.
>
> As a first approximation, however it's possible that overriding won't
> be allowed depending on allowoverride directives in either the apache
> configuration file, or .htaccess files in containing directories.
>
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
> http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 20:58:52 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 20:58:52 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Making the recent changes administrator-only
In-Reply-To: <1e55af990512051227q65bf69f5n9306f4116f62acfd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <1e55af990512051227q65bf69f5n9306f4116f62acfd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512051258l745e95e7m@mail.gmail.com>

Edit the special page function to require the appropriate user group, perhaps?


Rob Church

On 05/12/05, Sy Ali <sy1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there an easy way to shift certain special pages to only be
> administrator accessible?  I'm specifically interested in making the
> recent changes private.
>
> (No, I'm not interested in removing it from the sidebar.. that's been
> done.  I also maintain a manual change news page)
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From mischa2023 at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 21:07:12 2005
From: mischa2023 at gmail.com (Mischa Peters)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 22:07:12 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <00C14A1BA7454D4099D19923AA7FE21B06EA7918@ex-mail-sea-04.ant.amazon.com>
References: <00C14A1BA7454D4099D19923AA7FE21B06EA7918@ex-mail-sea-04.ant.amazon.com>
Message-ID: <e2c462550512051307h2f144ddv8611946a9ca677d4@mail.gmail.com>

Yes it would... especially since for one project I would like to lock
it down to a specific domain. And opening a gmail account is an
additional step that a lot of people don't want to take.

Mischa

> Is that really useful, considering how easy it is to set up a yahoo/hotmail/gmail/whatever else account?
>
> Gabe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mischa Peters
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 12:28 PM
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
>
> Hi Kent,
>
> [snip]
>
> > I apologize if this is really off topic for this list -- but you kind
> > of brought up the subject by assuming that Mischa was against 'open' editing.
> > I don't know what his wiki is about or what his policies are, but I
> > don't think enforcing a valid email address conflicts with 'open editing.'
>
> I am running different wiki's, one is more open then the other. But I would still like to know who is adding what and not just know their "nickname".
>
> Mischa
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From Markus.Reiser at automation.siemens.com  Mon Dec  5 10:26:22 2005
From: Markus.Reiser at automation.siemens.com (Reiser, Markus)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 11:26:22 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?
Message-ID: <E759F5925EBD8349AE765857F55653B4015F22E7@KHED162A.ww004.siemens.net>

Hi folks,

is there a possibility in MediaWiki to create an
external link to a windows network folder like
\\server\folder1   ????

It does not work using syntax of external 
or internal links ;-(

Hope you can help me !
Thanks

Markus




From greg at zorro.STUDENT.CWRU.edu  Mon Dec  5 19:42:42 2005
From: greg at zorro.STUDENT.CWRU.edu (Gregory Szorc)
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 14:42:42 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] 1.5 Database Schema Questions
Message-ID: <43949832.8090505@zorro.case.edu>

I have a few quick questions about the 1.5 database schema...

What exactly is the role of the recentchanges table?  If I had to take a 
stab at it, I would say that it is basically rehash of data already in 
the revision and logging tables and it exists purely for performance 
improvement reasons.

Once upon a time when I upgraded MediaWiki, somehow my recentchanges 
table got truncated.  So now, I have records starting at about 
rc_id=4000.  I do have database backups that have all but 30 or so of 
the old records.  Is there a benefit to importing these missing records 
into the recentchanges table?  I would assume 
maintenance/rebuildrecentchanges.php would reconstruct these records, 
but it doesn't.  It just seems to truncate the table even more.  Which 
leads me back to my original question, what is the purpose of this table?

Second, I did a fresh install of 1.5.2 this weekend and chose the 
experimental MySQL 5 layout.  For curiosity sake, I did a structure 
compare to an existing installation (1.5.2 upgraded from 1.4.x).  I was 
surprised to see that the text table in the fresh install only has 3 
fields (old_id, old_text, old_flags) as opposed to the 11 or so that the 
existing install has.  Is it safe to delete these non-existent fields 
from the old database?  On quick glance, these fields in the old 
database don't seem to be populated anymore, so I would assume yes, but 
what do I know.

I'm sorry to bother everyone on this list with this question, but the 
database documentation on meta is horribly out of date.  I would update 
it myself, but there are a few areas that I just don't know enough 
about.  Perhaps the developers could find time to update the 
documentation...

Gregory Szorc
gregory.szorc at case.edu


From brion at pobox.com  Mon Dec  5 22:04:02 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 14:04:02 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <e2c462550512051230j535de8emcf494d61ad746da7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>	<a0620072dbfba1ecc9a88@192.168.1.6>	<71cd4dd90512051018w73c85f18mea5118d305c5f749@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512051230j535de8emcf494d61ad746da7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4394B952.5000105@pobox.com>

Mischa Peters wrote:
>>> Since it is already possible to restrict editing mediawiki to regisistered
>>> users, seems like a simple, useful thing to add authentication of the email
>>> address.
>>>
>> I agree.  It'd be a useful feature.  And according to Rob Church it's
>> a feature already in the system.  It's not the default, because
>> mediawiki is *wiki* software, and it's not a very wiki-like thing to
>> restrict editing.
> 
> Could someone explain to me why an email verification of the user that
> is about to edit on your wiki is restricting editing?!

It doesn't allow people to edit who don't have, or don't want to reveal, their
e-mail addresses. Requiring registration and an e-mail round trip changes the
dynamics of both who can, and who will, get involved.

That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it is a restriction.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From BenA at datacom.co.nz  Mon Dec  5 22:05:54 2005
From: BenA at datacom.co.nz (Ben Arnold (DSLWN))
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:05:54 +1300
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?
Message-ID: <46562C5EECFA8C47AADDF029EE11D73D015961CA@dnzwgex1.datacom.co.nz>

Normally you'd be able to do this with a file URL.

[file://server/folder1 the text to link from]

Notice how the Windows backslashes become slashes in a file URL.

This doesn't seem to work on MediaWiki. This is probably a good thing in
general since there's not much use for it outside of a shared
filesystem. It could also be a security risk.

Others might be able to tell you how to hack MediaWiki to get this to
work. If you find out, let me know. I'd be interested in doing this on
my wiki too.


-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Reiser, Markus
Sent: Monday, 5 December 2005 11:26 p.m.
To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?

Hi folks,

is there a possibility in MediaWiki to create an external link to a
windows network folder like
\\server\folder1   ????

It does not work using syntax of external or internal links ;-(

Hope you can help me !
Thanks

Markus


_______________________________________________
MediaWiki-l mailing list
MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l


From brion at pobox.com  Mon Dec  5 22:08:30 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 14:08:30 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] 1.5 Database Schema Questions
In-Reply-To: <43949832.8090505@zorro.case.edu>
References: <43949832.8090505@zorro.case.edu>
Message-ID: <4394BA5E.90705@pobox.com>

Gregory Szorc wrote:
> I have a few quick questions about the 1.5 database schema...
> 
> What exactly is the role of the recentchanges table?  If I had to take a
> stab at it, I would say that it is basically rehash of data already in
> the revision and logging tables and it exists purely for performance
> improvement reasons.

Pretty much.

> Second, I did a fresh install of 1.5.2 this weekend and chose the
> experimental MySQL 5 layout.  For curiosity sake, I did a structure
> compare to an existing installation (1.5.2 upgraded from 1.4.x).  I was
> surprised to see that the text table in the fresh install only has 3
> fields (old_id, old_text, old_flags) as opposed to the 11 or so that the
> existing install has.  Is it safe to delete these non-existent fields
> from the old database?

Other fields are left over from an upgrade from 1.4 (the 'old' table gets
repurposed for text storage) and are no longer used.

> I'm sorry to bother everyone on this list with this question, but the
> database documentation on meta is horribly out of date.

See maintenance/tables.sql for documentation on the schema.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From BenA at datacom.co.nz  Mon Dec  5 22:11:58 2005
From: BenA at datacom.co.nz (Ben Arnold (DSLWN))
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:11:58 +1300
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?
Message-ID: <46562C5EECFA8C47AADDF029EE11D73D015961CB@dnzwgex1.datacom.co.nz>

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ#Is_it_somehow_possible_to_u
se_a_.22file.22_URI-qualifier_for_local_intranets_e.g._.5Bfile:.2F.2Floc
alhost.2FC:_C-Drive.5D.3F

Turns out it's in the fantastic manual! I don't have time to try it out
right now but when I do I'll let you know my results.


-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Ben Arnold
(DSLWN)
Sent: Tuesday, 6 December 2005 11:06 a.m.
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?

Normally you'd be able to do this with a file URL.

[file://server/folder1 the text to link from]

Notice how the Windows backslashes become slashes in a file URL.

This doesn't seem to work on MediaWiki. This is probably a good thing in
general since there's not much use for it outside of a shared
filesystem. It could also be a security risk.

Others might be able to tell you how to hack MediaWiki to get this to
work. If you find out, let me know. I'd be interested in doing this on
my wiki too.


-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Reiser, Markus
Sent: Monday, 5 December 2005 11:26 p.m.
To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?

Hi folks,

is there a possibility in MediaWiki to create an external link to a
windows network folder like
\\server\folder1   ????

It does not work using syntax of external or internal links ;-(

Hope you can help me !
Thanks

Markus


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MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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From brion at pobox.com  Mon Dec  5 22:13:23 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 14:13:23 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?
In-Reply-To: <46562C5EECFA8C47AADDF029EE11D73D015961CA@dnzwgex1.datacom.co.nz>
References: <46562C5EECFA8C47AADDF029EE11D73D015961CA@dnzwgex1.datacom.co.nz>
Message-ID: <4394BB83.2070603@pobox.com>

Ben Arnold (DSLWN) wrote:
> Normally you'd be able to do this with a file URL.
> 
> [file://server/folder1 the text to link from]
> 
> Notice how the Windows backslashes become slashes in a file URL.
> 
> This doesn't seem to work on MediaWiki. This is probably a good thing in
> general since there's not much use for it outside of a shared
> filesystem. It could also be a security risk.
> 
> Others might be able to tell you how to hack MediaWiki to get this to
> work. If you find out, let me know. I'd be interested in doing this on
> my wiki too.

I'm pretty sure this is in the FAQ.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From garydh at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 22:38:00 2005
From: garydh at gmail.com (Gary H)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 08:38:00 +1000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past installation successful page
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512050538n6e884f08r@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560948960512050503j1b94c71fsdfab1a50b3a9404@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050538n6e884f08r@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <560948960512051438u1a4f0992q68ddab829de3d499@mail.gmail.com>

I have deleted the /config/ directory but still have the problem.


On 12/5/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> You need to *move* the file. In your case, make sure that there's a
> /LocalSettings.php and then delete /config/LocalSettings.php.
>
> MediaWiki checks to see whether config/LocalSettings.php exists upon
> execution. If it does, it raises this as a possible problem which
> needs to be addressed. Other such cases include having no
> LocalSettings.php file, etc.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 05/12/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I installed MediaWiki 1.5.3 and everything went smoothly. But now it
> > wont let me past the installation successful page when I go to
> > index.php, index.php/, or even just the directory /. I have moved the
> > LocalSettings.php file from /config to the wikis root by downloading
> > it and re-uploading it. Any ideas?
> >
> > Thanks, Gary.
> >
> >
> > --
> > *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
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From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 22:43:54 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 22:43:54 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <e2c462550512051307h2f144ddv8611946a9ca677d4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00C14A1BA7454D4099D19923AA7FE21B06EA7918@ex-mail-sea-04.ant.amazon.com>
	<e2c462550512051307h2f144ddv8611946a9ca677d4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512051443m339b2127r@mail.gmail.com>

No offence, but I think you answered your own question:

On 05/12/05, Mischa Peters <mischa2023 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Could someone explain to me why an email verification of the user that
> is about to edit on your wiki is restricting editing?!

On 05/12/05, Mischa Peters <mischa2023 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes it would... especially since for one project I would like to lock
> it down to a specific domain. And opening a gmail account is an
> additional step that a lot of people don't want to take.

So, you are restricting edits to those who can or will take that extra
step. Whether that's good or bad is open for discussion, but surely
the fact that "locking it down" is "restricting it" is as plain as
day?

Meanwhile, what do you mean be locking down "to a specific domain" -
do you mean that you're planning to use e-mail verification as a way
of authenticating that the users already hold accounts on some other
service? If so, out of curiosity, are there other possibilities (LDAP,
checks in a shared database), some of which may already have been
implemented?

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From JohnsonA at rembrandt.co.nz  Mon Dec  5 22:53:42 2005
From: JohnsonA at rembrandt.co.nz (Alistair Johnson)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 11:53:42 +1300 
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?
Message-ID: <AC2A387833A93D45B1692F4212812B8E7A2B66@server.internal.rembrandt.co.nz>

We got this working by using IIS to map a virtual directory to a directory
in our file system.

eg. A virtual directory "docs" in mapped to c:\docs
    To access the file c:\docs\abc.txt from the mediawiki interface we then
use [{{SERVER}}/docs/abc.txt abc.txt]

Works well and we use NTFS file permissions to restrict access to sensitive
files to authorised users.

We couldn't use file:// as most browsers block that by default now.

Cheers,

Al.

-----Original Message-----
From: Reiser, Markus [mailto:Markus.Reiser at automation.siemens.com] 
Sent: Monday, 5 December 2005 11:26 p.m.
To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?

Hi folks,

is there a possibility in MediaWiki to create an external link to a windows
network folder like
\\server\folder1   ????

It does not work using syntax of external or internal links ;-(

Hope you can help me !
Thanks

Markus


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From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 22:57:03 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 22:57:03 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <e2c462550512051223h2e4df978m94c8ad728d4403e0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512051223h2e4df978m94c8ad728d4403e0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512051457g53cf419x@mail.gmail.com>

On 05/12/05, Mischa Peters <mischa2023 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I understand the open editing thing. But I don't want to have people
> register with bogus accounts. As long as their email address exist I
> don't mind what they type.

How on earth does "not having an e-mail address" equate to "bogus
account" - or rather, how does "having an e-mail address" equate to
"completely trusted account"? This is exactly the kind of flawed
reasoning that gets trotted out time and time again on this subject,
and why I think there is a serious message behind the very funny
parody on meta [1].

By all means argue that the additional speed-bump provided by forcing
e-mail verification, and the resulting overall decline in edits and
editors - both good and bad - will be on average beneficial for your
particular use of MediaWiki. But do not be so foolish as to claim that
the ability and willingness to go through that process will in any way
guarantee the character and intention of a particular user.

Look at mailinator.com, look at bugmenot.com, and you'll realise that
people who *want* to by-pass the "verification" will be able to do so
perfectly easily thank you very much.

-=Refs=-
[1]: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_gays_should_not_be_allowed_to_edit_articles

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 23:04:53 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 23:04:53 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past installation successful page
In-Reply-To: <560948960512051438u1a4f0992q68ddab829de3d499@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560948960512050503j1b94c71fsdfab1a50b3a9404@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050538n6e884f08r@mail.gmail.com>
	<560948960512051438u1a4f0992q68ddab829de3d499@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512051504s63991c80g@mail.gmail.com>

Just to check; the LocalSettings.php file is in the same directory as
index.php, isn't it? And what error do you get now?


Rob Church

On 05/12/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> I have deleted the /config/ directory but still have the problem.
>
>
> On 12/5/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > You need to *move* the file. In your case, make sure that there's a
> > /LocalSettings.php and then delete /config/LocalSettings.php.
> >
> > MediaWiki checks to see whether config/LocalSettings.php exists upon
> > execution. If it does, it raises this as a possible problem which
> > needs to be addressed. Other such cases include having no
> > LocalSettings.php file, etc.
> >
> >
> > Rob Church
> >
> > On 05/12/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I installed MediaWiki 1.5.3 and everything went smoothly. But now it
> > > wont let me past the installation successful page when I go to
> > > index.php, index.php/, or even just the directory /. I have moved the
> > > LocalSettings.php file from /config to the wikis root by downloading
> > > it and re-uploading it. Any ideas?
> > >
> > > Thanks, Gary.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
>
>
> --
> *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From garydh at gmail.com  Mon Dec  5 23:07:49 2005
From: garydh at gmail.com (Gary H)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 09:07:49 +1000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past installation successful page
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512051504s63991c80g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560948960512050503j1b94c71fsdfab1a50b3a9404@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050538n6e884f08r@mail.gmail.com>
	<560948960512051438u1a4f0992q68ddab829de3d499@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512051504s63991c80g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <560948960512051507w224ff8c5u204fcd273401fdf3@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, they are in the same directory and I still get the installation
successful page.

On 12/6/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> Just to check; the LocalSettings.php file is in the same directory as
> index.php, isn't it? And what error do you get now?
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 05/12/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I have deleted the /config/ directory but still have the problem.
> >
> >
> > On 12/5/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > You need to *move* the file. In your case, make sure that there's a
> > > /LocalSettings.php and then delete /config/LocalSettings.php.
> > >
> > > MediaWiki checks to see whether config/LocalSettings.php exists upon
> > > execution. If it does, it raises this as a possible problem which
> > > needs to be addressed. Other such cases include having no
> > > LocalSettings.php file, etc.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rob Church
> > >
> > > On 05/12/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > I installed MediaWiki 1.5.3 and everything went smoothly. But now it
> > > > wont let me past the installation successful page when I go to
> > > > index.php, index.php/, or even just the directory /. I have moved the
> > > > LocalSettings.php file from /config to the wikis root by downloading
> > > > it and re-uploading it. Any ideas?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks, Gary.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


--
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From wikilegal at inbox.org  Mon Dec  5 23:41:27 2005
From: wikilegal at inbox.org (Anthony DiPierro)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 18:41:27 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <9f02ca4c0512051457g53cf419x@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512051223h2e4df978m94c8ad728d4403e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512051457g53cf419x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <71cd4dd90512051541m4c26d983pfbbe85c547bb4d3a@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/5/05, Rowan Collins <rowan.collins at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 05/12/05, Mischa Peters <mischa2023 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I understand the open editing thing. But I don't want to have people
> > register with bogus accounts. As long as their email address exist I
> > don't mind what they type.
>
> How on earth does "not having an e-mail address" equate to "bogus
> account" - or rather, how does "having an e-mail address" equate to
> "completely trusted account"? This is exactly the kind of flawed
> reasoning that gets trotted out time and time again on this subject,
> and why I think there is a serious message behind the very funny
> parody on meta [1].
>
Is there any check in mediawiki to determine whether or not the email
address you give it is actually an email address of yours?  I think
this is what was meant by "bogus accounts", someone who put
"whatever at example.com" or something like that.

> By all means argue that the additional speed-bump provided by forcing
> e-mail verification, and the resulting overall decline in edits and
> editors - both good and bad - will be on average beneficial for your
> particular use of MediaWiki. But do not be so foolish as to claim that
> the ability and willingness to go through that process will in any way
> guarantee the character and intention of a particular user.
>
> Look at mailinator.com, look at bugmenot.com, and you'll realise that
> people who *want* to by-pass the "verification" will be able to do so
> perfectly easily thank you very much.
>
> -=Refs=-
> [1]: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Friends_of_gays_should_not_be_allowed_to_edit_articles
>
> --
> Rowan Collins BSc
> [IMSoP]


From brion at pobox.com  Tue Dec  6 00:03:08 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 16:03:08 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <71cd4dd90512051541m4c26d983pfbbe85c547bb4d3a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>	<e2c462550512051223h2e4df978m94c8ad728d4403e0@mail.gmail.com>	<9f02ca4c0512051457g53cf419x@mail.gmail.com>
	<71cd4dd90512051541m4c26d983pfbbe85c547bb4d3a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4394D53C.5020201@pobox.com>

Anthony DiPierro wrote:
> Is there any check in mediawiki to determine whether or not the email
> address you give it is actually an email address of yours?  I think
> this is what was meant by "bogus accounts", someone who put
> "whatever at example.com" or something like that.

If e-mail confirmation is on, yes: e-mail functions will be disabled until you
go through the confirmation step (it emails you a code, you visit the magic link).

(It's not on on Wikipedia at the moment; we should take care of that sometime.)

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 00:12:36 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 00:12:36 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <71cd4dd90512051541m4c26d983pfbbe85c547bb4d3a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512051223h2e4df978m94c8ad728d4403e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512051457g53cf419x@mail.gmail.com>
	<71cd4dd90512051541m4c26d983pfbbe85c547bb4d3a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512051612u2a3c84e9o@mail.gmail.com>

On 05/12/05, Anthony DiPierro <wikilegal at inbox.org> wrote:
> > On 05/12/05, Mischa Peters <mischa2023 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I understand the open editing thing. But I don't want to have people
> > > register with bogus accounts. As long as their email address exist I
> > > don't mind what they type.

> Is there any check in mediawiki to determine whether or not the email
> address you give it is actually an email address of yours?  I think
> this is what was meant by "bogus accounts", someone who put
> "whatever at example.com" or something like that.

The reason I assumed that that wasn't what was meant was the second
sentence, which specifically mentionned this would mean "I don't mind
what they type". Associating your account with an e-mail address that
is somebody else's is obviously something we can and should discourage
(as Brion says, the feature's already there); what's up for debate is
whether there's any harm in not registering an e-mail address *at
all*, given that you can easily validate an e-mail address without
being traceable or even reachable through it.

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From gregory.szorc at case.edu  Tue Dec  6 00:15:14 2005
From: gregory.szorc at case.edu (Gregory Szorc)
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 19:15:14 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Running MediaWiki With a MySQL Cluster
Message-ID: <4394D812.7090801@case.edu>

I would like to operate a MediaWiki installation that has two points of 
failure instead of the one that you get with a MySQL master/slave setup. 
  Is it possible to run MediaWiki using a MySQL cluster as its database 
storage engine?

If this can't be done, why?  What would need to be changed to allow 
hosting on a MySQL cluster to be doable?  If it can be done, what are 
the drawbacks to doing it and why doesn't WikiPedia operate a MySQL 
cluster instead of a master/slave replication setup.

Gregory Szorc
gregory.szorc at case.edu


From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 00:57:51 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 19:57:51 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <9f02ca4c0512051612u2a3c84e9o@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512051223h2e4df978m94c8ad728d4403e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512051457g53cf419x@mail.gmail.com>
	<71cd4dd90512051541m4c26d983pfbbe85c547bb4d3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512051612u2a3c84e9o@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512051657x288d2d31ne2d860b1e105d71d@mail.gmail.com>

I've been following this thread with a mixture of amusement and
sadness.  The Seigenthaler brohaha has been getting alot of attention,
not just on the internet, but on cable tv as well. MSNBC has run a
story on it several time today,  and Siegenthaler himself was
interviewed last night.


Then I switched from reading e-mail to checking blogs only to run across this:
http://slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=05/12/05/2010247&tid=95&tid=99

If this is true, then it looks like even wikipedia is trodding the
slippery slope down from true wikiness (whatever that really means).
--
Rick DeNatale
(Who used to sometimes hang out in bars with Ward Cunningham)

Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/


From cryptoquick at phyco.org  Tue Dec  6 01:12:10 2005
From: cryptoquick at phyco.org (Alex Trujillo)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 18:12:10 -0700
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: WikiTex: Xymtex install
In-Reply-To: <20051205075645.12BED1158A08@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051205075645.12BED1158A08@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <A1BFA701-C8C7-41C1-B76B-560111D94EB7@phyco.org>

> Well, let's ask the obvious questions, then. Does the file it's
> looking for exist? Try altering the paths a little. Can the
> directory/file be written to (if TeX needs to write to it)?

No matter what I did, the package didn't work. Could you tell me how  
or forward me to, step by step directions for installing WikiTeX and  
its respective extensions? I've deleted the installation and removed  
the inclusion from LocalSettings.php until I know what I'm really doing!

---
Phyco.org: For A Phyco Future.

> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 23:23:41 -0700
> From: Alex Trujillo <cryptoquick at phyco.org>
> Subject: [Mediawiki-l] WikiTex: Xymtex install
> To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> Message-ID: <ABD5E6D5-7466-4462-8B11-A46745D1B4D2 at phyco.org>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=ISO-8859-1;	delsp=yes;	format=flowed
>
> Hello; I've been attempting to install the xymtex package for
> WikiTex. I uploaded the entire 17 megabyte package to my webspace,
> then I pasted an example from Wikisophia into a new page:
>> <chem>\octamethylene{4==S;5==S}{1W==HO;1D==O;8D==O;8W==OH;2SB==H;
>> 7SA==H;2SA==NH$_2$;7SB==NH$_2$}</chem>
>
> The following error was returned:
>> This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5)
>> (./2c67c000747b6ff14054bb48ef81ba6e
>> LaTeX2e <2001/06/01>
>> Babel  and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german,
>> ngerman, n
>> ohyphenation, loaded.
>> (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls
>> Document Class: article 2001/04/21 v1.4e Standard LaTeX document  
>> class
>> (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo))
>>
>> ! LaTeX Error: File `xymtex/xymtex.sty' not found.
>>
>> Type X to quit or  to proceed,
>> or enter new name. (Default extension: sty)
>>
>> Enter file name:
>> ! Emergency stop.
>>
>> l.3 \usepackage
>>                {chemist}^^M
>> No pages of output.
>> Transcript written on 2c67c000747b6ff14054bb48ef81ba6e.log.
>
> I've been trying to fix this all evening. I've been messing with the
> wikitex.chem.inc.tex file.
> Also of note, the xymtex directory is within wikitex directory.
> That's why I used "xymtex/xymtex.sty".
>
> Any thoughts are appreciated.
>
> ---
> Phyco.org: For A Phyco Future.
>
>
> On Dec 4, 2005, at 5:03 AM, mediawiki-l-request at Wikimedia.org wrote:
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 07:56:36 +0000
> From: Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] WikiTex: Xymtex install
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> 	<mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID: <e92136380512042356n2a584b35g at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> Well, let's ask the obvious questions, then. Does the file it's
> looking for exist? Try altering the paths a little. Can the
> directory/file be written to (if TeX needs to write to it)?
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 05/12/05, Alex Trujillo <cryptoquick at phyco.org> wrote:
>> Hello; I've been attempting to install the xymtex package for
>> WikiTex. I uploaded the entire 17 megabyte package to my webspace,
>> then I pasted an example from Wikisophia into a new page:
>>> <chem>\octamethylene{4==S;5==S}{1W==HO;1D==O;8D==O;8W==OH;2SB==H;
>>> 7SA==H;2SA==NH$_2$;7SB==NH$_2$}</chem>
>>
>> The following error was returned:
>>> This is TeX, Version 3.14159 (Web2C 7.4.5)
>>> (./2c67c000747b6ff14054bb48ef81ba6e
>>> LaTeX2e <2001/06/01>
>>> Babel  and hyphenation patterns for american, french, german,
>>> ngerman, n
>>> ohyphenation, loaded.
>>> (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/article.cls
>>> Document Class: article 2001/04/21 v1.4e Standard LaTeX document  
>>> class
>>> (/usr/share/texmf/tex/latex/base/size10.clo))
>>>
>>> ! LaTeX Error: File `xymtex/xymtex.sty' not found.
>>>
>>> Type X to quit or  to proceed,
>>> or enter new name. (Default extension: sty)
>>>
>>> Enter file name:
>>> ! Emergency stop.
>>>
>>> l.3 \usepackage
>>>                {chemist}^^M
>>> No pages of output.
>>> Transcript written on 2c67c000747b6ff14054bb48ef81ba6e.log.
>>
>> I've been trying to fix this all evening. I've been messing with the
>> wikitex.chem.inc.tex file.
>> Also of note, the xymtex directory is within wikitex directory.
>> That's why I used "xymtex/xymtex.sty".
>>
>> Any thoughts are appreciated.
>>
>> ---
>> Phyco.org: For A Phyco Future.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> _______________________________________________
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>
>
> End of MediaWiki-l Digest, Vol 27, Issue 8
> ******************************************
>
>



From brion at pobox.com  Tue Dec  6 01:27:15 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 17:27:15 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Running MediaWiki With a MySQL Cluster
In-Reply-To: <4394D812.7090801@case.edu>
References: <4394D812.7090801@case.edu>
Message-ID: <4394E8F3.4070300@pobox.com>

Gregory Szorc wrote:
> I would like to operate a MediaWiki installation that has two points of
> failure instead of the one that you get with a MySQL master/slave setup.
>  Is it possible to run MediaWiki using a MySQL cluster as its database
> storage engine?

Last I heard, MySQL Cluster doesn't support large text/blob fields, which we use
for text storage.

You might be able to put some tables in Cluster and the rest in InnoDB or
MyISAM. Try it and report back. :)

> If it can be done, what are
> the drawbacks to doing it and why doesn't WikiPedia operate a MySQL
> cluster instead of a master/slave replication setup.

Also, having a couple hundred gigabytes of RAM would be very expensive. :D

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From brion at pobox.com  Tue Dec  6 01:31:29 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Mon, 05 Dec 2005 17:31:29 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: WikiTex: Xymtex install
In-Reply-To: <A1BFA701-C8C7-41C1-B76B-560111D94EB7@phyco.org>
References: <20051205075645.12BED1158A08@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<A1BFA701-C8C7-41C1-B76B-560111D94EB7@phyco.org>
Message-ID: <4394E9F1.5060403@pobox.com>

Alex Trujillo wrote:
>> Well, let's ask the obvious questions, then. Does the file it's
>> looking for exist? Try altering the paths a little. Can the
>> directory/file be written to (if TeX needs to write to it)?
> 
> No matter what I did, the package didn't work. Could you tell me how or
> forward me to, step by step directions for installing WikiTeX and its
> respective extensions? I've deleted the installation and removed the
> inclusion from LocalSettings.php until I know what I'm really doing!

You might try contacting the author of the extension directly...

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From youngi at comcast.net  Tue Dec  6 01:46:25 2005
From: youngi at comcast.net (Isaac Gonzalez)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 17:46:25 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?
References: <46562C5EECFA8C47AADDF029EE11D73D015961CA@dnzwgex1.datacom.co.nz>
Message-ID: <000d01c5fa06$df902200$43197443@lan.inventures.com>

try using a mapped network drive and use:

file:///<driveletter>|/<pathtofile>/filename

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Ben Arnold (DSLWN)" <BenA at datacom.co.nz>
To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" 
<mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org>
Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 2:05 PM
Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?


Normally you'd be able to do this with a file URL.

[file://server/folder1 the text to link from]

Notice how the Windows backslashes become slashes in a file URL.

This doesn't seem to work on MediaWiki. This is probably a good thing in
general since there's not much use for it outside of a shared
filesystem. It could also be a security risk.

Others might be able to tell you how to hack MediaWiki to get this to
work. If you find out, let me know. I'd be interested in doing this on
my wiki too.


-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Reiser, Markus
Sent: Monday, 5 December 2005 11:26 p.m.
To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?

Hi folks,

is there a possibility in MediaWiki to create an external link to a
windows network folder like
\\server\folder1   ????

It does not work using syntax of external or internal links ;-(

Hope you can help me !
Thanks

Markus


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From cmcintosh at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 02:39:33 2005
From: cmcintosh at gmail.com (Chris McIntosh)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 18:39:33 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Intranet Single Signon
In-Reply-To: <00C14A1BA7454D4099D19923AA7FE21B06C83567@ex-mail-sea-04.ant.amazon.com>
References: <00C14A1BA7454D4099D19923AA7FE21B06C83567@ex-mail-sea-04.ant.amazon.com>
Message-ID: <fc095b9f0512051839q15f70620u3cace93afc4d6e10@mail.gmail.com>

Neither of these solutions work. They both give me what I already have.

The problem I have after implementing both suggestions is that I still
cannot modify that users preferences. It has to due with the matchEditToken
function.

Anybody know what I am missing?

--
Chris Mcintosh

On 11/17/05, Sechan, Gabe <sechan at amazon.com> wrote:
>
> I just did something very similar for my company.  Here's my
> circumstances, and how I did it.  Hope it helps.
>
> I have a situation where the user name is known by apache before I log
> on.  I can get the user name from Apache.  This means something that may be
> unique to my situation-  when the user gets to my page, he is already logged
> in.
>
> Logins are all handled by the User::loadFromSession function.  It returns
> a user object, or a blank user if not logged in.  My solution was
> simple-  anytime it returned a new User();, I had it instead return the
> results of a new function-  loadFromOutside()
>
> loadFromOutside takes the user name, and goes
>
> $user=User::newFromName($name)
> If(0==$user->getID){
>   $user->addToDatabase();
>   $user->setPassword($pass);
>   $user->setEmail($email);
>   $user->setReadName($name);
>   $user->setOption('rememberPassword',1);
> Else{
>   $user->loadFromDatabase();
> }
> $user->setCookies();
> $user->saveSettings();
> Return $user;
>
> What this does is try and load the user from the DB.  If it can't, it
> creates a new user.  This code *is* working.  The only think you need to do
> is fill in $name, $pass, and $email.  If you don't get a password from the
> server, randomizing one is fine-  they never need it.
>
> Gabe
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org [mailto:
> mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Chris McIntosh
> Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2005 10:09 AM
> To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Intranet Single Signon
>
> I am modifying the source code to allow our internal Intranet users to
> automatically log in to the wiki based on their username applied by apache.
> I do this by using mod_ntlm to get their NTLM credentials and then want to
> seemlessly log them in.
>
> The problem I am having is setting up the user variable (wgUser) properly.
> I have tried the following.
>
> For now I have it near the bottom of Setup.php just to test around line
> 300.
>
>
> if ( $wgUseRemoteUser)
> {
> if ($userid = $wgUser->idFromName($wgIP)) { $wgUser->setId($userid);
> $wgUser->loadFromDatabase(); } else { $wgUser = $wgUser->newFromName($wgIP);
> $wgUser->setId($wgUser->getMaxId());
> $wgUser->addToDatabase();
> }
> $wgUser->setToken() ;
> $wgUser->setCookies();
> }
>
> The problem with this approach is I can't change any preferences for this
> user. Everything else seems fine but if I try and change a setting like
> Underline links, the preference page won't save. I have tracked that down to
> the edit token not being set properly, but I am not sure how to set it. If I
> remove the check in SpecialPreferences where it calls matchEditToken then
> everything works fine.
>
> Any advice?
>
> Thanks
> Chris McIntosh
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From garydh at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 02:59:55 2005
From: garydh at gmail.com (Gary H)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:59:55 +1000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past installation successful page
In-Reply-To: <560948960512051507w224ff8c5u204fcd273401fdf3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560948960512050503j1b94c71fsdfab1a50b3a9404@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050538n6e884f08r@mail.gmail.com>
	<560948960512051438u1a4f0992q68ddab829de3d499@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512051504s63991c80g@mail.gmail.com>
	<560948960512051507w224ff8c5u204fcd273401fdf3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <560948960512051859xa7f3830mc7fa8d1d2ac0ee96@mail.gmail.com>

Could it be that the index page hasnt updated itself or something?


On 12/6/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes, they are in the same directory and I still get the installation
> successful page.
>
> On 12/6/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Just to check; the LocalSettings.php file is in the same directory as
> > index.php, isn't it? And what error do you get now?
> >
> >
> > Rob Church
> >
> > On 05/12/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I have deleted the /config/ directory but still have the problem.
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/5/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > You need to *move* the file. In your case, make sure that there's a
> > > > /LocalSettings.php and then delete /config/LocalSettings.php.
> > > >
> > > > MediaWiki checks to see whether config/LocalSettings.php exists upon
> > > > execution. If it does, it raises this as a possible problem which
> > > > needs to be addressed. Other such cases include having no
> > > > LocalSettings.php file, etc.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rob Church
> > > >
> > > > On 05/12/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi,
> > > > >
> > > > > I installed MediaWiki 1.5.3 and everything went smoothly. But now it
> > > > > wont let me past the installation successful page when I go to
> > > > > index.php, index.php/, or even just the directory /. I have moved the
> > > > > LocalSettings.php file from /config to the wikis root by downloading
> > > > > it and re-uploading it. Any ideas?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks, Gary.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
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> > > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
>
>
> --
> *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
>


--
*** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***


From mischa2023 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 11:38:41 2005
From: mischa2023 at gmail.com (Mischa Peters)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:38:41 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <9f02ca4c0512051457g53cf419x@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512051223h2e4df978m94c8ad728d4403e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512051457g53cf419x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e2c462550512060338o1039d1f3s1573b610537d62d4@mail.gmail.com>

> > I understand the open editing thing. But I don't want to have people
> > register with bogus accounts. As long as their email address exist I
> > don't mind what they type.
>
> How on earth does "not having an e-mail address" equate to "bogus
> account" - or rather, how does "having an e-mail address" equate to
> "completely trusted account"? This is exactly the kind of flawed
> reasoning that gets trotted out time and time again on this subject,
> and why I think there is a serious message behind the very funny
> parody on meta [1].

As a general rule not having an email address does indeed not reflect
a bogus account, however it does make the threshold lower in respect
to crap on your wiki.
And where did you read that I associated having an email address with
a "completely trusted account"?

It's not the kinds of statements that makes this flawed but the
interpretation of these words.

The thing that I just don't understand what the aversion against this
_option_ is.
The option to disallow non-logged-in users to edit documents is also
there, so I don't see  the difference here.

And since all these options are options you can make a choice of using
or not using them. Simple? I think so...

What about the mailman software? The function to verify your email
address is optional and the MediaWiki team decided to enable this.
Why?! Maybe to make sure that people would subscribe with a valid
email address?

Mischa


From mischa2023 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 11:41:41 2005
From: mischa2023 at gmail.com (Mischa Peters)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:41:41 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <4394B952.5000105@pobox.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
	<a0620072dbfba1ecc9a88@192.168.1.6>
	<71cd4dd90512051018w73c85f18mea5118d305c5f749@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512051230j535de8emcf494d61ad746da7@mail.gmail.com>
	<4394B952.5000105@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <e2c462550512060341q5bc1f6eflc97953103f08ce0b@mail.gmail.com>

> It doesn't allow people to edit who don't have, or don't want to reveal, their
> e-mail addresses. Requiring registration and an e-mail round trip changes the
> dynamics of both who can, and who will, get involved.
>
> That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it is a restriction.

True, but that is a choice that I would like to make for the Wikis that I run.
Which is the same for the editting "restriction", which was implemented.

Why is this different?

Mischa


From mischa2023 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 11:49:16 2005
From: mischa2023 at gmail.com (Mischa Peters)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:49:16 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <9f02ca4c0512051443m339b2127r@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00C14A1BA7454D4099D19923AA7FE21B06EA7918@ex-mail-sea-04.ant.amazon.com>
	<e2c462550512051307h2f144ddv8611946a9ca677d4@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512051443m339b2127r@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e2c462550512060349r77ed4d04nb4592628c3c2efd7@mail.gmail.com>

> No offence, but I think you answered your own question:
>
> On 05/12/05, Mischa Peters <mischa2023 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Could someone explain to me why an email verification of the user that
> > is about to edit on your wiki is restricting editing?!

No offence, how did I answer my own question?
It might be considered as a restriction but I don't see why these 2 are related?

> > Yes it would... especially since for one project I would like to lock
> > it down to a specific domain. And opening a gmail account is an
> > additional step that a lot of people don't want to take.
>
> So, you are restricting edits to those who can or will take that extra
> step. Whether that's good or bad is open for discussion, but surely
> the fact that "locking it down" is "restricting it" is as plain as
> day?

Maybe the definition of "restricted" means something else to different people.
Personally I feel that an email verification is not a restriction.
You can argue that if this is considered a restriction then there are
already a lot of restrictions in place that made it in MediaWiki.
Think, regsitering to the wiki.
Think, disallow edit of a page when a user is not logged in.
Think, read only wiki.

> Meanwhile, what do you mean be locking down "to a specific domain" -
> do you mean that you're planning to use e-mail verification as a way
> of authenticating that the users already hold accounts on some other
> service? If so, out of curiosity, are there other possibilities (LDAP,
> checks in a shared database), some of which may already have been
> implemented?

That is a good point. I will most diffinately look at it.

Mischa


From mischa2023 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 11:50:59 2005
From: mischa2023 at gmail.com (Mischa Peters)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:50:59 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <4394D53C.5020201@pobox.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512051223h2e4df978m94c8ad728d4403e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512051457g53cf419x@mail.gmail.com>
	<71cd4dd90512051541m4c26d983pfbbe85c547bb4d3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4394D53C.5020201@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <e2c462550512060350m1ca5af47p4e1fd8c31dc48dfe@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Brion,

> > Is there any check in mediawiki to determine whether or not the email
> > address you give it is actually an email address of yours?  I think
> > this is what was meant by "bogus accounts", someone who put
> > "whatever at example.com" or something like that.
>
> If e-mail confirmation is on, yes: e-mail functions will be disabled until you
> go through the confirmation step (it emails you a code, you visit the magic link).
>
> (It's not on on Wikipedia at the moment; we should take care of that sometime.)

Thanx! :)

Mischa


From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 12:21:56 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:21:56 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?
In-Reply-To: <000d01c5fa06$df902200$43197443@lan.inventures.com>
References: <46562C5EECFA8C47AADDF029EE11D73D015961CA@dnzwgex1.datacom.co.nz>
	<000d01c5fa06$df902200$43197443@lan.inventures.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512060421o2591982dp@mail.gmail.com>

http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:%24wgUrlProtocols explains the
configuration option needed to add the file:// URL protocol to
MediaWiki's list of allowed protocols. In this case, add the line:

$wgUrlProtocols .= '|file:\/\/';

to your LocalSettings.php file


Rob Church

On 06/12/05, Isaac Gonzalez <youngi at comcast.net> wrote:
> try using a mapped network drive and use:
>
> file:///<driveletter>|/<pathtofile>/filename
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Arnold (DSLWN)" <BenA at datacom.co.nz>
> To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list"
> <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 2:05 PM
> Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?
>
>
> Normally you'd be able to do this with a file URL.
>
> [file://server/folder1 the text to link from]
>
> Notice how the Windows backslashes become slashes in a file URL.
>
> This doesn't seem to work on MediaWiki. This is probably a good thing in
> general since there's not much use for it outside of a shared
> filesystem. It could also be a security risk.
>
> Others might be able to tell you how to hack MediaWiki to get this to
> work. If you find out, let me know. I'd be interested in doing this on
> my wiki too.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Reiser, Markus
> Sent: Monday, 5 December 2005 11:26 p.m.
> To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?
>
> Hi folks,
>
> is there a possibility in MediaWiki to create an external link to a
> windows network folder like
> \\server\folder1   ????
>
> It does not work using syntax of external or internal links ;-(
>
> Hope you can help me !
> Thanks
>
> Markus
>
>
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From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 12:27:01 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 12:27:01 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past installation successful page
In-Reply-To: <560948960512051859xa7f3830mc7fa8d1d2ac0ee96@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560948960512050503j1b94c71fsdfab1a50b3a9404@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050538n6e884f08r@mail.gmail.com>
	<560948960512051438u1a4f0992q68ddab829de3d499@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512051504s63991c80g@mail.gmail.com>
	<560948960512051507w224ff8c5u204fcd273401fdf3@mail.gmail.com>
	<560948960512051859xa7f3830mc7fa8d1d2ac0ee96@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512060427h16f5f7bfm@mail.gmail.com>

index.php doesn't update itself, per se - it calls in a load of other
includes and then refers to other functions. What is the text of the
error you are getting?


Rob Church

On 06/12/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> Could it be that the index page hasnt updated itself or something?
>
>
> On 12/6/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yes, they are in the same directory and I still get the installation
> > successful page.
> >
> > On 12/6/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Just to check; the LocalSettings.php file is in the same directory as
> > > index.php, isn't it? And what error do you get now?
> > >
> > >
> > > Rob Church
> > >
> > > On 05/12/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I have deleted the /config/ directory but still have the problem.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 12/5/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > You need to *move* the file. In your case, make sure that there's a
> > > > > /LocalSettings.php and then delete /config/LocalSettings.php.
> > > > >
> > > > > MediaWiki checks to see whether config/LocalSettings.php exists upon
> > > > > execution. If it does, it raises this as a possible problem which
> > > > > needs to be addressed. Other such cases include having no
> > > > > LocalSettings.php file, etc.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Rob Church
> > > > >
> > > > > On 05/12/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I installed MediaWiki 1.5.3 and everything went smoothly. But now it
> > > > > > wont let me past the installation successful page when I go to
> > > > > > index.php, index.php/, or even just the directory /. I have moved the
> > > > > > LocalSettings.php file from /config to the wikis root by downloading
> > > > > > it and re-uploading it. Any ideas?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks, Gary.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> >
>
>
> --
> *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From lars at aronsson.se  Tue Dec  6 13:04:10 2005
From: lars at aronsson.se (Lars Aronsson)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 14:04:10 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <9f02ca4c0512051457g53cf419x@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512051223h2e4df978m94c8ad728d4403e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512051457g53cf419x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.61.0512061348100.7511@sara.aronsson.se>

Rowan Collins wrote:

> "completely trusted account"? This is exactly the kind of flawed
> reasoning that gets trotted out time and time again on this subject,

On a slightly different topic, I'd be interested in knowing if 
anybody has found a useful and scalable method to ban a person, 
i.e. not only banning a user account, but also being able to 
refuse the same person to sign up with a different account.  This 
could be desireable for banning repeat vandals and removing 
sockpuppets from voting.

If I could assume, for example, that IBM and the University of 
Maryland had very strict e-mail address policies, using e-mail 
verification and only allowing ibm.com and umd.edu addresses would 
seem to be a working solution.  But this fails because the same 
person can be affiliated with both organizations, and as the 
number of included domains increase such crossaffiliation becomes 
more and more likely.


-- 
  Lars Aronsson (lars at aronsson.se)
  Aronsson Datateknik - http://aronsson.se


From sy1234 at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 13:09:58 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 08:09:58 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <e2c462550512060350m1ca5af47p4e1fd8c31dc48dfe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512051223h2e4df978m94c8ad728d4403e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512051457g53cf419x@mail.gmail.com>
	<71cd4dd90512051541m4c26d983pfbbe85c547bb4d3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4394D53C.5020201@pobox.com>
	<e2c462550512060350m1ca5af47p4e1fd8c31dc48dfe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512060509r6747a485vd2f1820b847d9c67@mail.gmail.com>

How about valuing email verification before editing:

* To assure that person x on wiki a is the same as person y on
wiki/forum/mailing list/toaster b. (I mean wiki, not necessarily
mediawiki)
* As a necessary step towards integrating logins between all those
various services.
* To make it possible to warn/ban an /email address/ from using the
wiki (vs graffiti, spam, etc)


From frizzantik at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  6 13:19:46 2005
From: frizzantik at yahoo.com (frizz antik)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 05:19:46 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Winter: a scripting language for MediaWiki pages
In-Reply-To: <4394E9F1.5060403@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <20051206131946.76213.qmail@web52114.mail.yahoo.com>

Hey MediaWiki admins.. have you ever needed
programming language functionality in your templates
and other wiki pages?  If so, check out my new
MediaWiki extension, Winter.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Frantik/Winter

Let me know if you have any problems, quesitons, bug
reports, or feature requests. :) 



		
__________________________________________ 
Yahoo! DSL ? Something to write home about. 
Just $16.99/mo. or less. 
dsl.yahoo.com 



From garydh at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 13:36:42 2005
From: garydh at gmail.com (Gary H)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 23:36:42 +1000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past installation successful page
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512060427h16f5f7bfm@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560948960512050503j1b94c71fsdfab1a50b3a9404@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050538n6e884f08r@mail.gmail.com>
	<560948960512051438u1a4f0992q68ddab829de3d499@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512051504s63991c80g@mail.gmail.com>
	<560948960512051507w224ff8c5u204fcd273401fdf3@mail.gmail.com>
	<560948960512051859xa7f3830mc7fa8d1d2ac0ee96@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512060427h16f5f7bfm@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <560948960512060536k5e63a872s2b8c1f8e2671ec17@mail.gmail.com>

Doesnt matter now. It seemed to be an issue with the latest version of
MediaWiki. I installed the previous version and its all running
smooth. Thanks.


On 12/6/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> index.php doesn't update itself, per se - it calls in a load of other
> includes and then refers to other functions. What is the text of the
> error you are getting?
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 06/12/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Could it be that the index page hasnt updated itself or something?
> >
> >
> > On 12/6/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Yes, they are in the same directory and I still get the installation
> > > successful page.
> > >
> > > On 12/6/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Just to check; the LocalSettings.php file is in the same directory as
> > > > index.php, isn't it? And what error do you get now?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rob Church
> > > >
> > > > On 05/12/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I have deleted the /config/ directory but still have the problem.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 12/5/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > You need to *move* the file. In your case, make sure that there's a
> > > > > > /LocalSettings.php and then delete /config/LocalSettings.php.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > MediaWiki checks to see whether config/LocalSettings.php exists upon
> > > > > > execution. If it does, it raises this as a possible problem which
> > > > > > needs to be addressed. Other such cases include having no
> > > > > > LocalSettings.php file, etc.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rob Church
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 05/12/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I installed MediaWiki 1.5.3 and everything went smoothly. But now it
> > > > > > > wont let me past the installation successful page when I go to
> > > > > > > index.php, index.php/, or even just the directory /. I have moved the
> > > > > > > LocalSettings.php file from /config to the wikis root by downloading
> > > > > > > it and re-uploading it. Any ideas?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Thanks, Gary.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


--
*** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***


From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 13:45:05 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 13:45:05 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past installation successful page
In-Reply-To: <560948960512060536k5e63a872s2b8c1f8e2671ec17@mail.gmail.com>
References: <560948960512050503j1b94c71fsdfab1a50b3a9404@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050538n6e884f08r@mail.gmail.com>
	<560948960512051438u1a4f0992q68ddab829de3d499@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512051504s63991c80g@mail.gmail.com>
	<560948960512051507w224ff8c5u204fcd273401fdf3@mail.gmail.com>
	<560948960512051859xa7f3830mc7fa8d1d2ac0ee96@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512060427h16f5f7bfm@mail.gmail.com>
	<560948960512060536k5e63a872s2b8c1f8e2671ec17@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512060545tfc73afcu@mail.gmail.com>

You're welcome.


Rob Church

On 06/12/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> Doesnt matter now. It seemed to be an issue with the latest version of
> MediaWiki. I installed the previous version and its all running
> smooth. Thanks.
>
>
> On 12/6/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > index.php doesn't update itself, per se - it calls in a load of other
> > includes and then refers to other functions. What is the text of the
> > error you are getting?
> >
> >
> > Rob Church
> >
> > On 06/12/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Could it be that the index page hasnt updated itself or something?
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/6/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Yes, they are in the same directory and I still get the installation
> > > > successful page.
> > > >
> > > > On 12/6/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Just to check; the LocalSettings.php file is in the same directory as
> > > > > index.php, isn't it? And what error do you get now?
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Rob Church
> > > > >
> > > > > On 05/12/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > I have deleted the /config/ directory but still have the problem.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 12/5/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > You need to *move* the file. In your case, make sure that there's a
> > > > > > > /LocalSettings.php and then delete /config/LocalSettings.php.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > MediaWiki checks to see whether config/LocalSettings.php exists upon
> > > > > > > execution. If it does, it raises this as a possible problem which
> > > > > > > needs to be addressed. Other such cases include having no
> > > > > > > LocalSettings.php file, etc.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Rob Church
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > On 05/12/05, Gary H <garydh at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > > Hi,
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I installed MediaWiki 1.5.3 and everything went smoothly. But now it
> > > > > > > > wont let me past the installation successful page when I go to
> > > > > > > > index.php, index.php/, or even just the directory /. I have moved the
> > > > > > > > LocalSettings.php file from /config to the wikis root by downloading
> > > > > > > > it and re-uploading it. Any ideas?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Thanks, Gary.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --
> > > > > > > > *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > > > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > > > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
>
>
> --
> *** I call it the "Sproose Moose"! ***
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 16:43:18 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 16:43:18 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <1e55af990512060509r6747a485vd2f1820b847d9c67@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512051223h2e4df978m94c8ad728d4403e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512051457g53cf419x@mail.gmail.com>
	<71cd4dd90512051541m4c26d983pfbbe85c547bb4d3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4394D53C.5020201@pobox.com>
	<e2c462550512060350m1ca5af47p4e1fd8c31dc48dfe@mail.gmail.com>
	<1e55af990512060509r6747a485vd2f1820b847d9c67@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512060843q7b8bc961m@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/12/05, Sy Ali <sy1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
> How about valuing email verification before editing:
>
> * To assure that person x on wiki a is the same as person y on
> wiki/forum/mailing list/toaster b. (I mean wiki, not necessarily
> mediawiki)
> * As a necessary step towards integrating logins between all those
> various services.
> * To make it possible to warn/ban an /email address/ from using the
> wiki (vs graffiti, spam, etc)

Interesting concept, but wouldn't this fail as long as it was as easy
to create a new, non-black-listed e-mail account as to create a new,
non-black-listed wiki/forum/whatever account? Which, unless you had a
very restrictive e-mail domain blacklist/whitelist system, would
undoubtedly be the case.

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 16:59:47 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 16:59:47 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <e2c462550512060338o1039d1f3s1573b610537d62d4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512051223h2e4df978m94c8ad728d4403e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512051457g53cf419x@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512060338o1039d1f3s1573b610537d62d4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512060859n3f637edav@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/12/05, Mischa Peters <mischa2023 at gmail.com> wrote:
> As a general rule not having an email address does indeed not reflect
> a bogus account, however it does make the threshold lower in respect
> to crap on your wiki.

Requiring an e-mail address would certainly change the threshold for
*edits* - it would put people off. The question is, whether it would
discourage significantly more "bad" editors than it would discourage
"good" ones, so that the site would improve as a result; many people
are not convinced that that is what would happen.

> And where did you read that I associated having an email address with
> a "completely trusted account"?

Well, what you said was "As long as their email address exist I don't
mind what they type." I realise you were probably exaggerating
somewhat, and would actually take what they type with a pinch of salt
long after registration, but your actual words did imply a very high
level of trust as soon as they've registered.

> The thing that I just don't understand what the aversion against this
> _option_ is.
> The option to disallow non-logged-in users to edit documents is also
> there, so I don't see  the difference here.

Yes, I have stated before that I am not, on principle, against having
this option in the software (if not in this thread, then certainly on
the bugzilla entry I linked to earlier).

However, in discussing implementing the option, we inevitably come to
discussing whether and when it should be turned on, and I have yet to
be convinced that there is a situation where it would be the best
move. And, to be honest, I'm unconvinced even about "you must log in
to edit" wikis - they take away the very dynamism and effortlessness
that I find attractive about wikis in the first place - but at least
with no verification the process is quick and painless. If I was told
to wait for a "confirmation" e-mail before my account was valid, I'd
probably have moved onto another website before it arrived.

This is all very subjective, and a lot of it comes down to opinion and
guesswork, but I don't think that makes the discussion worthless.

> What about the mailman software? The function to verify your email
> address is optional and the MediaWiki team decided to enable this.
> Why?! Maybe to make sure that people would subscribe with a valid
> email address?

Well, making sure an e-mail address is valid for an e-mail mailing
list is kind of a different issue than demanding a validated e-mail
address for a system where most users will never use any e-mail
features. Validation code exists in MediaWiki already because if users
*do* want to use e-mail related features (e.g. Special:Emailuser, mail
a new password, watchlist notification on sites with it enabled) they
can be forced to have a valid address; that is pretty much common
sense, and much more similar to the mailman example.

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Tue Dec  6 17:10:24 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 17:10:24 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <e2c462550512060349r77ed4d04nb4592628c3c2efd7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <00C14A1BA7454D4099D19923AA7FE21B06EA7918@ex-mail-sea-04.ant.amazon.com>
	<e2c462550512051307h2f144ddv8611946a9ca677d4@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512051443m339b2127r@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512060349r77ed4d04nb4592628c3c2efd7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512060910m781b199ct@mail.gmail.com>

On 06/12/05, Mischa Peters <mischa2023 at gmail.com> wrote:
> Maybe the definition of "restricted" means something else to different people.
> Personally I feel that an email verification is not a restriction.

OK, maybe it is a definition thing. It seems to me that a change from
"anyone can edit" to "anyone can edit, as long as they have an e-mail
address, are willing to enter it on the form, and can be bothered to
wait for the confirmation message" is reducing the pool of people who
are able to edit, and therefore "restricting" it to those who meet the
new criteria.

But perhaps it's more helpful to think of it in terms of removing the
*ease* and *speed* of editting, which are after all what wikis excel
at (hence "wiki-wiki", "quick"). Now, I'm happy for it to be up to
administrators to reduce the advantages of the system like this, but I
do think it would be a mistake for them to do so.

> You can argue that if this is considered a restriction then there are
> already a lot of restrictions in place that made it in MediaWiki.
> Think, regsitering to the wiki.
> Think, disallow edit of a page when a user is not logged in.
> Think, read only wiki.

Yes, I personally think that the harder it is to contribute to a wiki,
the less use is being made of the advantages of the wiki. A read-only
or invitation-only wiki is just a CMS - a website managed and
facilitated by software - and there are many many pieces of software
probably *more* able to do that. Does that mean no-one should be
allowed to adapt MediaWiki for such a role? Of course not, and no
doubt useful features come about largely because people use it that
way. But if you want to take advantage of it being a wiki, you have to
make editting easy for as many people as you think you can cope with.
IMHO, of course.

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From brion at pobox.com  Tue Dec  6 19:50:11 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Tue, 06 Dec 2005 11:50:11 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <e2c462550512060350m1ca5af47p4e1fd8c31dc48dfe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>	<e92136380512050549y6aa3aeddp@mail.gmail.com>	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>	<e2c462550512051223h2e4df978m94c8ad728d4403e0@mail.gmail.com>	<9f02ca4c0512051457g53cf419x@mail.gmail.com>	<71cd4dd90512051541m4c26d983pfbbe85c547bb4d3a@mail.gmail.com>	<4394D53C.5020201@pobox.com>
	<e2c462550512060350m1ca5af47p4e1fd8c31dc48dfe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4395EB73.4010700@pobox.com>

Mischa Peters wrote:
> Hi Brion,
> 
>>> Is there any check in mediawiki to determine whether or not the email
>>> address you give it is actually an email address of yours?  I think
>>> this is what was meant by "bogus accounts", someone who put
>>> "whatever at example.com" or something like that.
>> If e-mail confirmation is on, yes: e-mail functions will be disabled until you
>> go through the confirmation step (it emails you a code, you visit the magic link).
>>
>> (It's not on on Wikipedia at the moment; we should take care of that sometime.)
> 
> Thanx! :)

Why thanx? We already told you it doesn't do what *you* asked about, which is to
disable editing until they confirm the address. That's why we told you that the
feature you asked for is not present at this time.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From service88port at yahoo.com  Tue Dec  6 03:24:19 2005
From: service88port at yahoo.com (qijie chen)
Date: Mon, 5 Dec 2005 19:24:19 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] mediawiki chinese customization
Message-ID: <20051206032419.96107.qmail@web35702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

 Hi,
 I try to install mediawiki 1.5.3 on a Linux box. I selected language zh
 After the installation, the main wiki page have four chinese selections on the top, such as mainland-simplified, tw-tradition, sg-simplified and  hk-tradition.  I would like to customize the selection to only two choices, simplified and tradition.  In addtition, I would like to have the simplified chinese as default.  
 
 Would someone show me how to do this?
 Thanks
 Chris
 

		
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From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Wed Dec  7 00:11:37 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 16:11:37 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <20051205202717.D093D1AC17B8@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051205202717.D093D1AC17B8@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <F3153738-15C9-44CA-ACBB-E5844140FD0A@Bytesmiths.com>

Here's what I did.

1) Disallow account creation.
2) Supply a form for people to request account creation.
3) Create the account for them, either as sysop, or by plugging the  
user table.
4) In either case, the user then has to request a password.

Example at: http://www.EcoReality.org/wiki/Join

I realize this creates a bit more administrative work, but assuming  
legit requests are low occurrence, it's less trouble than dealing  
with TONS of illegitimate accounts, which the gurus here have  
repeatedly warned us we should not delete!

In wikis I've been creating, I see about an 80% illegitimate account  
creation rate.

:::: Real peace in a petroleum-fueled world means rejecting petroleum  
dependence in all possible ways. -- Jan Lundberg
:::: Jan Steinman (a fossil-fuel-free zone) <http:// 
www.Bytesmiths.com/Van>




From v.nagaraj at econwiki.lse.ac.uk  Wed Dec  7 00:32:27 2005
From: v.nagaraj at econwiki.lse.ac.uk (Vinayak Nagaraj)
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 00:32:27 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <F3153738-15C9-44CA-ACBB-E5844140FD0A@Bytesmiths.com>
References: <20051205202717.D093D1AC17B8@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<F3153738-15C9-44CA-ACBB-E5844140FD0A@Bytesmiths.com>
Message-ID: <43962D9B.3090801@econwiki.lse.ac.uk>

This is exactly what we do as well. It's a little dirty when you plug 
the user table, but it's quick and efficient. Saves you a load of 
problems when it comes to deleting users!


Jan Steinman wrote:
> Here's what I did.
>
> 1) Disallow account creation.
> 2) Supply a form for people to request account creation.
> 3) Create the account for them, either as sysop, or by plugging the 
> user table.
> 4) In either case, the user then has to request a password.
>
> Example at: http://www.EcoReality.org/wiki/Join
>
> I realize this creates a bit more administrative work, but assuming 
> legit requests are low occurrence, it's less trouble than dealing with 
> TONS of illegitimate accounts, which the gurus here have repeatedly 
> warned us we should not delete!
>
> In wikis I've been creating, I see about an 80% illegitimate account 
> creation rate.
>
> :::: Real peace in a petroleum-fueled world means rejecting petroleum 
> dependence in all possible ways. -- Jan Lundberg
> :::: Jan Steinman (a fossil-fuel-free zone) 
> <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l



From jnyland at gmail.com  Wed Dec  7 01:36:29 2005
From: jnyland at gmail.com (Jared Nyland)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 18:36:29 -0700
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Upgrading Mediawiki 1.4.11 to 1.5.3
Message-ID: <a5d091110512061736s4f0bf406u616ee1a5dc8f37@mail.gmail.com>

All,

I have been working on upgrading from Mediawiki 1.4.11 to 1.5.3(versions
German, French, and Spanish) but have run into one issue.  After running the
upgrade script I get these funny characters ?.  I have tried running this
partial-upgrader in upgrade1_5.php as it says in the RELEASE-NOTES, but
still does not fix the problem.  Has anyone else run into the issue and know
of away to fix it?


Thanks in advance
Jared

From youngi at comcast.net  Wed Dec  7 04:00:22 2005
From: youngi at comcast.net (Isaac Gonzalez)
Date: Tue, 6 Dec 2005 20:00:22 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512060421o2591982dp@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <KIEEKHMBNKMLLBPMFAMMMEBGCGAA.youngi@comcast.net>

an even better answer.... thanks for clarifying Rob ;)

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org]On Behalf Of Rob Church
Sent: Tuesday, December 06, 2005 4:22 AM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?


http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:%24wgUrlProtocols explains the
configuration option needed to add the file:// URL protocol to
MediaWiki's list of allowed protocols. In this case, add the line:

$wgUrlProtocols .= '|file:\/\/';

to your LocalSettings.php file


Rob Church

On 06/12/05, Isaac Gonzalez <youngi at comcast.net> wrote:
> try using a mapped network drive and use:
>
> file:///<driveletter>|/<pathtofile>/filename
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ben Arnold (DSLWN)" <BenA at datacom.co.nz>
> To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list"
> <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 2:05 PM
> Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?
>
>
> Normally you'd be able to do this with a file URL.
>
> [file://server/folder1 the text to link from]
>
> Notice how the Windows backslashes become slashes in a file URL.
>
> This doesn't seem to work on MediaWiki. This is probably a good thing in
> general since there's not much use for it outside of a shared
> filesystem. It could also be a security risk.
>
> Others might be able to tell you how to hack MediaWiki to get this to
> work. If you find out, let me know. I'd be interested in doing this on
> my wiki too.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Reiser, Markus
> Sent: Monday, 5 December 2005 11:26 p.m.
> To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> Subject: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?
>
> Hi folks,
>
> is there a possibility in MediaWiki to create an external link to a
> windows network folder like
> \\server\folder1   ????
>
> It does not work using syntax of external or internal links ;-(
>
> Hope you can help me !
> Thanks
>
> Markus
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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From Markus.Reiser at automation.siemens.com  Wed Dec  7 08:04:56 2005
From: Markus.Reiser at automation.siemens.com (Reiser, Markus)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:04:56 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ? (solved)
Message-ID: <E759F5925EBD8349AE765857F55653B401647B7E@KHED162A.ww004.siemens.net>

Thanks Bob, this works pretty well 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org 
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
> Sent: Dienstag, 6. Dezember 2005 13:22
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?
> 
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:%24wgUrlProtocols explains the
> configuration option needed to add the file:// URL protocol to
> MediaWiki's list of allowed protocols. In this case, add the line:
> 
> $wgUrlProtocols .= '|file:\/\/';
> 
> to your LocalSettings.php file
> 
> 
> Rob Church
> 
> On 06/12/05, Isaac Gonzalez <youngi at comcast.net> wrote:
> > try using a mapped network drive and use:
> >
> > file:///<driveletter>|/<pathtofile>/filename
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Ben Arnold (DSLWN)" <BenA at datacom.co.nz>
> > To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list"
> > <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org>
> > Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 2:05 PM
> > Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?
> >
> >
> > Normally you'd be able to do this with a file URL.
> >
> > [file://server/folder1 the text to link from]
> >
> > Notice how the Windows backslashes become slashes in a file URL.
> >
> > This doesn't seem to work on MediaWiki. This is probably a 
> good thing in
> > general since there's not much use for it outside of a shared
> > filesystem. It could also be a security risk.
> >
> > Others might be able to tell you how to hack MediaWiki to 
> get this to
> > work. If you find out, let me know. I'd be interested in 
> doing this on
> > my wiki too.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> > [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Reiser, Markus
> > Sent: Monday, 5 December 2005 11:26 p.m.
> > To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > Subject: [Mediawiki-l] link to windows network drive possible ?
> >
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > is there a possibility in MediaWiki to create an external link to a
> > windows network folder like
> > \\server\folder1   ????
> >
> > It does not work using syntax of external or internal links ;-(
> >
> > Hope you can help me !
> > Thanks
> >
> > Markus
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> 


From ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au  Wed Dec  7 09:10:07 2005
From: ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au (Laurie Lewis)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 20:10:07 +1100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
Message-ID: <000101c5fb0e$04fcafb0$661aa8c0@airedale>

I am very new to wiki's and I am trying to set up a multiple language
one.  I can not get the sidebar to change to the appropriate languages
etc when you select them.
 
Can anyone help me with a simple set through of what I should do please.
 
Laurie 
 


From robchur at gmail.com  Wed Dec  7 14:10:47 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 14:10:47 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
In-Reply-To: <000101c5fb0e$04fcafb0$661aa8c0@airedale>
References: <000101c5fb0e$04fcafb0$661aa8c0@airedale>
Message-ID: <e92136380512070610u6951a6b9o@mail.gmail.com>

What you should be able to do is edit the appropriate LanguageXX.php
file, find the entry for 'sidebar', and edit that as appropriate. When
a user selects a language other than the default, you should find the
interface loads from that language file, and the sidebar should
hopefully update.


Rob Church

On 07/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> I am very new to wiki's and I am trying to set up a multiple language
> one.  I can not get the sidebar to change to the appropriate languages
> etc when you select them.
>
> Can anyone help me with a simple set through of what I should do please.
>
> Laurie
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From sy1234 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  7 14:37:21 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:37:21 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <9f02ca4c0512060843q7b8bc961m@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512050709q31868a7dnc19c93ebf5850836@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512050736r52d0ee4ap@mail.gmail.com>
	<e2c462550512051223h2e4df978m94c8ad728d4403e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512051457g53cf419x@mail.gmail.com>
	<71cd4dd90512051541m4c26d983pfbbe85c547bb4d3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4394D53C.5020201@pobox.com>
	<e2c462550512060350m1ca5af47p4e1fd8c31dc48dfe@mail.gmail.com>
	<1e55af990512060509r6747a485vd2f1820b847d9c67@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512060843q7b8bc961m@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512070637q46bbcff5l7e4786b4f2ebf9ed@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/6/05, Rowan Collins <rowan.collins at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 06/12/05, Sy Ali <sy1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > How about valuing email verification before editing:
> >
> > * To assure that person x on wiki a is the same as person y on
> > wiki/forum/mailing list/toaster b. (I mean wiki, not necessarily
> > mediawiki)
> > * As a necessary step towards integrating logins between all those
> > various services.
> > * To make it possible to warn/ban an /email address/ from using the
> > wiki (vs graffiti, spam, etc)
>
> Interesting concept, but wouldn't this fail as long as it was as easy
> to create a new, non-black-listed e-mail account as to create a new,
> non-black-listed wiki/forum/whatever account? Which, unless you had a
> very restrictive e-mail domain blacklist/whitelist system, would
> undoubtedly be the case.

It doesn't stop the persistant nor the automated.  I wouldn't restrict
email addresses so much as banning *@aol.com or the like, or even
whitelisting them.  However, email authentication before allowing
editing does add a level of annoyance and slows down automation.

---

A bit more context on my opinions:

This annoyance can and will turn away legit users.

However, in my experience.  And this is my experience here.  Very very
very very very few people contribute.  Ever.  I mean I could take my
socks off and count them on my hands and toes.  My first wiki was very
highly ranked in search engines, and I had visitors dropping by all
the time.  Nobody would edit.  When google changed their technology
and also I switched to mediawiki, my rank dropped like a stone.  I
still had uniques dropping by.  My mediawiki installation was even
more open than the first one.

Nobody edited.  I mean.. once in a month perhaps.

So for me, closing up my wiki doesn't mean anything.  I still get
people who are willing to sign up just to write a "hey, nice site"
note.  It's not that annoying to be forced to sign up to edit. 
However, it's also not annoying enough to prevent spam, one of the
highest ranking annoyances I have with mediawiki in particular --
there is no spam prevention.  It assumes that a thousand volunteers
are there to thward spam with the minimal prevention tools provided.

After having been hit by automated spamming, and noting that mediawiki
doesn't have a mechanism to stop automated account creation,
aggressive editing, link dumping etc.. I had to lock it down once
again until I reconfigured and set up a *third-party* extension to
help me out.

Now I'm back to requiring account creation.  However spamming is still
very easy through automated account creation (no captcha), automated
editing (again, no captcha - although I wouldn't want it) and finding
the right links to dump which avoids the filters.

Nothing is in place to help out.. for example, nothing automatically
bans people who persistantly try to save pages with banned links.


So for all of that.. email verification is just a touch more annoying
for users, gives me reasonable peace of mind (e.g. that I can email a
user if I need to), slows down bots etc..

I'd love to have it.  I myself wouldn't mind if it was in other wikis
out there, including wikimedia projects, but if it were off by default
elsewhere it'd be fine as long as I could use it.


From sy1234 at gmail.com  Wed Dec  7 14:46:38 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 09:46:38 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Winter: a scripting language for MediaWiki pages
In-Reply-To: <20051206131946.76213.qmail@web52114.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <4394E9F1.5060403@pobox.com>
	<20051206131946.76213.qmail@web52114.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512070646s68fdf229k7d3cf785543f70ab@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/6/05, frizz antik <frizzantik at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hey MediaWiki admins.. have you ever needed
> programming language functionality in your templates
> and other wiki pages?  If so, check out my new
> MediaWiki extension, Winter.
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Frantik/Winter

Nice!  I wish I had that extension when I was hardcore into doing my
wacky templating stuff.  Using basic IFs I could cut down the number
of templates I use in my calendaring monstrosity:

http://jrandomhacker.info/MediaWiki_calendar_templating

I'll make a note to check out your extension.. it's not exactly ruby
scripting, but it could prove very useful.


From erchache2000.enciclopedia at gmail.com  Wed Dec  7 14:51:53 2005
From: erchache2000.enciclopedia at gmail.com (erchache2000)
Date: Wed, 07 Dec 2005 15:51:53 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Upgrading Mediawiki 1.4.11 to 1.5.3
In-Reply-To: <a5d091110512061736s4f0bf406u616ee1a5dc8f37@mail.gmail.com>
References: <a5d091110512061736s4f0bf406u616ee1a5dc8f37@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4396F709.2020004@gmail.com>

Jared Nyland escribi?:

>All,
>
>I have been working on upgrading from Mediawiki 1.4.11 to 1.5.3(versions
>German, French, and Spanish) but have run into one issue.  After running the
>upgrade script I get these funny characters ?.  I have tried running this
>partial-upgrader in upgrade1_5.php as it says in the RELEASE-NOTES, but
>still does not fix the problem.  Has anyone else run into the issue and know
>of away to fix it?
>
>
>Thanks in advance
>Jared
>  
>
>------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>_______________________________________________
>MediaWiki-l mailing list
>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>  
>


See this links, http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Upgrading_MediaWiki 
and http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_1.5_upgrade.

If you can do upgrade sucessfull please add your experience on wiki, 
will be helpfull for other users.

I cant do all upgrade process too, but im very busy on my "real" job. 
Feel free to email me.

Good Luck.


From ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au  Wed Dec  7 14:58:05 2005
From: ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au (Laurie Lewis)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 01:58:05 +1100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512070610u6951a6b9o@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001c5fb3e$a0fbfc60$661aa8c0@airedale>

Ok,

Perhaps I need to provide a bit more information on where I am up to.

Using Mediawiki 1.5.3.  I have setup 1 mysql database with no extensions
being used.

I am at this time trying to determine how best to set up a
multi-language wiki.  I have been able to go into the interwiki database
and add the language codes for the additional languages.  Eg.
nl http://nl.wiki.phpgedview.net/index.php?title=$1 1

Not quite sure what the 0 or 1 means in the iw_local field. 

I have figured out that I need to include $wgInterwikiMagic = true; into
my LocalSettings.php if I want the language codes to come up as
XX.website.com/index...  I have also seen that you can put the language
code either before or after the $1 variable in the interwiki database to
change where the language code comes up.

What I imagined would happen is that when you selected a different
language that you would be able to edit the sidebar for each one somehow
like I do for the default language (MediaWiki:Sidebar).  I have also
read somewhere that you need multiple databases for running multiple
languages.  This site is basically designed to be one document
replicated into a number of languages.

Sorry but I am VERY new to all this and can not find an easy step
through anywhere let alone a hard one.

I could also not find the work sidebar at all in Languagesxx.php file.

Laurie




-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 1:11 AM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages

What you should be able to do is edit the appropriate LanguageXX.php
file, find the entry for 'sidebar', and edit that as appropriate. When
a user selects a language other than the default, you should find the
interface loads from that language file, and the sidebar should
hopefully update.


Rob Church

On 07/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> I am very new to wiki's and I am trying to set up a multiple language
> one.  I can not get the sidebar to change to the appropriate languages
> etc when you select them.
>
> Can anyone help me with a simple set through of what I should do
please.
>
> Laurie
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
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From robchur at gmail.com  Wed Dec  7 20:11:26 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 20:11:26 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
In-Reply-To: <000001c5fb3e$a0fbfc60$661aa8c0@airedale>
References: <e92136380512070610u6951a6b9o@mail.gmail.com>
	<000001c5fb3e$a0fbfc60$661aa8c0@airedale>
Message-ID: <e92136380512071211q3cfc1a6cy@mail.gmail.com>

To have multiple pages of the same content in different languages,
either separate wikis are required, or you could do something with
subpages, e.g. http://www.foo.com/wiki/Page/en, /wiki/Page/fr, etc...


Rob Church

On 07/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> Ok,
>
> Perhaps I need to provide a bit more information on where I am up to.
>
> Using Mediawiki 1.5.3.  I have setup 1 mysql database with no extensions
> being used.
>
> I am at this time trying to determine how best to set up a
> multi-language wiki.  I have been able to go into the interwiki database
> and add the language codes for the additional languages.  Eg.
> nl http://nl.wiki.phpgedview.net/index.php?title=$1 1
>
> Not quite sure what the 0 or 1 means in the iw_local field.
>
> I have figured out that I need to include $wgInterwikiMagic = true; into
> my LocalSettings.php if I want the language codes to come up as
> XX.website.com/index...  I have also seen that you can put the language
> code either before or after the $1 variable in the interwiki database to
> change where the language code comes up.
>
> What I imagined would happen is that when you selected a different
> language that you would be able to edit the sidebar for each one somehow
> like I do for the default language (MediaWiki:Sidebar).  I have also
> read somewhere that you need multiple databases for running multiple
> languages.  This site is basically designed to be one document
> replicated into a number of languages.
>
> Sorry but I am VERY new to all this and can not find an easy step
> through anywhere let alone a hard one.
>
> I could also not find the work sidebar at all in Languagesxx.php file.
>
> Laurie
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
> Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 1:11 AM
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
>
> What you should be able to do is edit the appropriate LanguageXX.php
> file, find the entry for 'sidebar', and edit that as appropriate. When
> a user selects a language other than the default, you should find the
> interface loads from that language file, and the sidebar should
> hopefully update.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 07/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> > I am very new to wiki's and I am trying to set up a multiple language
> > one.  I can not get the sidebar to change to the appropriate languages
> > etc when you select them.
> >
> > Can anyone help me with a simple set through of what I should do
> please.
> >
> > Laurie
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Wed Dec  7 20:55:27 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 15:55:27 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email approval before login
In-Reply-To: <1e55af990512070637q46bbcff5l7e4786b4f2ebf9ed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e2c462550512050222r3c2c2af0k786692a06a9e0789@mail.gmail.com>
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	<e2c462550512051223h2e4df978m94c8ad728d4403e0@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512051457g53cf419x@mail.gmail.com>
	<71cd4dd90512051541m4c26d983pfbbe85c547bb4d3a@mail.gmail.com>
	<4394D53C.5020201@pobox.com>
	<e2c462550512060350m1ca5af47p4e1fd8c31dc48dfe@mail.gmail.com>
	<1e55af990512060509r6747a485vd2f1820b847d9c67@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512060843q7b8bc961m@mail.gmail.com>
	<1e55af990512070637q46bbcff5l7e4786b4f2ebf9ed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512071255g78b7378dl32605135c53999e8@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/7/05, Sy Ali <sy1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/6/05, Rowan Collins <rowan.collins at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 06/12/05, Sy Ali <sy1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > How about valuing email verification before editing:
> > >
> > > * To assure that person x on wiki a is the same as person y on
> > > wiki/forum/mailing list/toaster b. (I mean wiki, not necessarily
> > > mediawiki)
> > > * As a necessary step towards integrating logins between all those
> > > various services.
> > > * To make it possible to warn/ban an /email address/ from using the
> > > wiki (vs graffiti, spam, etc)
> >
> > Interesting concept, but wouldn't this fail as long as it was as easy
> > to create a new, non-black-listed e-mail account as to create a new,
> > non-black-listed wiki/forum/whatever account? Which, unless you had a
> > very restrictive e-mail domain blacklist/whitelist system, would
> > undoubtedly be the case.
>
> It doesn't stop the persistant nor the automated.  I wouldn't restrict
> email addresses so much as banning *@aol.com or the like, or even
> whitelisting them.  However, email authentication before allowing
> editing does add a level of annoyance and slows down automation.
>
> ---
>
> A bit more context on my opinions:
>
> This annoyance can and will turn away legit users.
>
> However, in my experience.  And this is my experience here.  Very very
> very very very few people contribute.  Ever.  I mean I could take my
> socks off and count them on my hands and toes.  My first wiki was very
> highly ranked in search engines, and I had visitors dropping by all
> the time.  Nobody would edit.  When google changed their technology
> and also I switched to mediawiki, my rank dropped like a stone.  I
> still had uniques dropping by.  My mediawiki installation was even
> more open than the first one.
>
> Nobody edited.  I mean.. once in a month perhaps.

I'm in a similar situation to yours, 99 44/100 of the content of my
wiki is from me, myself or I.

I use mediawiki because at the time I looked for a wiki implementation
it did the best job of allowing mixed text and graphics.

However, I also realize that the funding of mediawiki development
comes from wikimedia whose wiki projects are quite different than
yours or mine.

Wikipedia has LOTS of people reading it, and also LOTs of people
contributing for better or worse. Although there have been a few
prominent examples of the down-side of wikiness for the most part they
depend on lots of eyes attached to benevolent brains and fingers to
keep things moving forward. Hence the lack of motivation by the
developers to expend effort on the main code stream for features which
they feel will inhibit the "social experiment" of wikimedia.


> So for me, closing up my wiki doesn't mean anything.  I still get
> people who are willing to sign up just to write a "hey, nice site"
> note.  It's not that annoying to be forced to sign up to edit.
> However, it's also not annoying enough to prevent spam, one of the
> highest ranking annoyances I have with mediawiki in particular --
> there is no spam prevention.  It assumes that a thousand volunteers
> are there to thward spam with the minimal prevention tools provided.
>
> After having been hit by automated spamming, and noting that mediawiki
> doesn't have a mechanism to stop automated account creation,
> aggressive editing, link dumping etc.. I had to lock it down once
> again until I reconfigured and set up a *third-party* extension to
> help me out.

Not sure which third party extension you are using, but as far as I
know, the spamblacklist extension is closely allied with the main
codestream, and is used by wikipedia. This allows regex checks of
links in articles being saved to disallow adding links to known
wikispam payload sites.

> Now I'm back to requiring account creation.  However spamming is still
> very easy through automated account creation (no captcha), automated
> editing (again, no captcha - although I wouldn't want it) and finding
> the right links to dump which avoids the filters.

There are third party extensions to add captcha, although I'm
personally not a big fan since 1) they can be broken and 2) they have
negative effects on accessibility.

> Nothing is in place to help out.. for example, nothing automatically
> bans people who persistantly try to save pages with banned links.
>
>
> So for all of that.. email verification is just a touch more annoying
> for users, gives me reasonable peace of mind (e.g. that I can email a
> user if I need to), slows down bots etc..
>
> I'd love to have it.  I myself wouldn't mind if it was in other wikis
> out there, including wikimedia projects, but if it were off by default
> elsewhere it'd be fine as long as I could use it.

I wouldn't mind it myself, but until and unless the developers can be
convinced that it's the right thing to do for wikipedia, or at least
that doing it wouldn't detract from the effort of supporting and
enhancing wikipedia, then it will be up to third-party extension
developers to provide it.

--
Rick DeNatale

Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/


From root.hpage at web.de  Wed Dec  7 21:00:28 2005
From: root.hpage at web.de (ROOT)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 22:00:28 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Help
Message-ID: <000e01c5fb71$413de9e0$0101a8c0@taron>

I installed the wiki but on the account is the php_ini disabled so i changed the files how written in the archiv and the instalation "work" but now if i visit the page i get

Warning: main(../includes/SiteConfiguration.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /usr/export/www/hosting/taron/wiki/includes/DefaultSettings.php on line 27

Fatal error: main(): Failed opening required '../includes/SiteConfiguration.php' (include_path='.:') in /usr/export/www/hosting/taron/wiki/includes/DefaultSettings.php on line 27


But the file exist... what can i do?


From service88port at yahoo.com  Wed Dec  7 18:28:32 2005
From: service88port at yahoo.com (qijie chen)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 10:28:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] email problem
Message-ID: <20051207182832.38044.qmail@web35702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Hi all,
  I installed mediawiki 1.5.3 on Fedora 4. I also has sendmail installed and running.
  But the mediawiki email notification does no seem to work.  Neither does the email sending the new password for the existing registrated user who forgets the password.
   
  Do I need to do some configuration on the sendmail? How?
   
  Thanks in advance
  Chris

		
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From youngi at comcast.net  Thu Dec  8 01:22:51 2005
From: youngi at comcast.net (Isaac Gonzalez)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:22:51 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] need help installing memcaching app on win 2k3 server
Message-ID: <052c01c5fb95$e9557d40$43197443@lan.inventures.com>

Hi,

after reading/researching for a few hours about installing a memcaching app for the wiki, I decided to try eaccelerator.

I am running PHP 4.3.11/MYSQL 4.1.x . One wiki 1.4.5 and a new wiki pointing to a different db running 1.5.3.

I found a pre-compiled dll here http://www.arnot.info/eaccelerator/   (used eaccelerator_win_4.3.11.dll  since that matched my php version) for e-accelerator which wiki setup detected, however once setup was successful, the wiki homepage would not load for my new wiki. Nor would my old wiki load either. (no error messages,...just a browser hang after a few mins) Hence I disabled the e-accelerator extension in php.ini and found a version of memcache here http://pecl4win.php.net/ext.php/php_memcache.dll and grabbed the php_memcache.dll file for 4.3.11 and enabled the extension within php.ini. All seems well except I think I have to change the code in local_settings.php for the 1.5.3 wiki which accounted for the eaccelerator option I tried to use:

## Shared memory settings
$wgMainCacheType = CACHE_ACCEL;   ##was set by me I imagine
$wgMemCachedServers = array();

I also probably have to change the code in my 1.4.5 install but I'm not too worried about that one using memcache since it will be pretty locked down.

Anyone know what I need to change this to to make it actually work?

thanks,
Isaac


From frizzantik at yahoo.com  Thu Dec  8 01:39:36 2005
From: frizzantik at yahoo.com (frizz antik)
Date: Wed, 7 Dec 2005 17:39:36 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Winter: a scripting language for MediaWiki pages
In-Reply-To: <1e55af990512070646s68fdf229k7d3cf785543f70ab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20051208013937.99322.qmail@web52108.mail.yahoo.com>

Funny you shoudl mention a calendar.. I have just put
up an exmaple of how to display a calendar of the
current month using Winter script.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Frantik/Winter/Example_4

I think you'll find it much easier than using a
billion templated :)

--- Sy Ali <sy1234 at gmail.com> wrote:

> On 12/6/05, frizz antik <frizzantik at yahoo.com>
> wrote:
> > Hey MediaWiki admins.. have you ever needed
> > programming language functionality in your
> templates
> > and other wiki pages?  If so, check out my new
> > MediaWiki extension, Winter.
> >
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Frantik/Winter
> 
> Nice!  I wish I had that extension when I was
> hardcore into doing my
> wacky templating stuff.  Using basic IFs I could cut
> down the number
> of templates I use in my calendaring monstrosity:
> 
>
http://jrandomhacker.info/MediaWiki_calendar_templating
> 
> I'll make a note to check out your extension.. it's
> not exactly ruby
> scripting, but it could prove very useful.
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>
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> 


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From shizhao at gmail.com  Thu Dec  8 00:47:34 2005
From: shizhao at gmail.com (shi zhao)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 00:47:34 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: mediawiki chinese customization
References: <20051206032419.96107.qmail@web35702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <loom.20051208T014335-712@post.gmane.org>

qijie chen <service88port at ...> writes:

> 
>  Hi,
>  I try to install mediawiki 1.5.3 on a Linux box. I selected language zh
>  After the installation, the main wiki page have four chinese selections on 
the top, such as
> mainland-simplified, tw-tradition, sg-simplified and  hk-tradition.  I would 
like to customize the
> selection to only two choices, simplified and tradition.  In addtition, I 
would like to have the
> simplified chinese as default.  
> 
>  Would someone show me how to do this?
>  Thanks
>  Chris
> 
> 		
> ---------------------------------
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> 

MediaWiki:Variantname-zh-hk and MediaWiki:Variantname-zh-sg set "disable" ;

MediaWiki:variantname-zh-cn set "??" ? MediaWiki:Variantname-zh-tw set "??"

[[zh:user:shizhao]]



From ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au  Thu Dec  8 04:52:11 2005
From: ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au (Laurie Lewis)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 15:52:11 +1100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512071211q3cfc1a6cy@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001c5fbb3$2724d450$661aa8c0@airedale>

I have seen how to do sub-pages with the language code either at the
front/middle or back, but this will not allow the sidebar to change as
the languages change - at least I have not been able to figure out how
to do this.  

The second option you talk of is multiple wiki's.  Not sure how to do
this on the one domain but this is my best guess - pointing in the right
direction would be good.

1.	Create a subdirectory off the main wiki page for each language
et /fr
2.	Copy LocalSettings.php to that directory and change the
following:-
	$wgLanguageCode = "en";

	Not sure here what else might need to be changed.

In this way every language will use the same database have the same user
base etc.  It will also mean that if you create a page that exists in
another language that it will show as existing and not as a new page.

Heck,  Can anyone step me through it?  Not confident after thinking
about it a bit more.

laurie




-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 7:11 AM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages

To have multiple pages of the same content in different languages,
either separate wikis are required, or you could do something with
subpages, e.g. http://www.foo.com/wiki/Page/en, /wiki/Page/fr, etc...


Rob Church

On 07/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> Ok,
>
> Perhaps I need to provide a bit more information on where I am up to.
>
> Using Mediawiki 1.5.3.  I have setup 1 mysql database with no
extensions
> being used.
>
> I am at this time trying to determine how best to set up a
> multi-language wiki.  I have been able to go into the interwiki
database
> and add the language codes for the additional languages.  Eg.
> nl http://nl.wiki.phpgedview.net/index.php?title=$1 1
>
> Not quite sure what the 0 or 1 means in the iw_local field.
>
> I have figured out that I need to include $wgInterwikiMagic = true;
into
> my LocalSettings.php if I want the language codes to come up as
> XX.website.com/index...  I have also seen that you can put the
language
> code either before or after the $1 variable in the interwiki database
to
> change where the language code comes up.
>
> What I imagined would happen is that when you selected a different
> language that you would be able to edit the sidebar for each one
somehow
> like I do for the default language (MediaWiki:Sidebar).  I have also
> read somewhere that you need multiple databases for running multiple
> languages.  This site is basically designed to be one document
> replicated into a number of languages.
>
> Sorry but I am VERY new to all this and can not find an easy step
> through anywhere let alone a hard one.
>
> I could also not find the work sidebar at all in Languagesxx.php file.
>
> Laurie
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
> Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 1:11 AM
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
>
> What you should be able to do is edit the appropriate LanguageXX.php
> file, find the entry for 'sidebar', and edit that as appropriate. When
> a user selects a language other than the default, you should find the
> interface loads from that language file, and the sidebar should
> hopefully update.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 07/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> > I am very new to wiki's and I am trying to set up a multiple
language
> > one.  I can not get the sidebar to change to the appropriate
languages
> > etc when you select them.
> >
> > Can anyone help me with a simple set through of what I should do
> please.
> >
> > Laurie
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
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From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec  8 07:40:23 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:40:23 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
In-Reply-To: <000001c5fbb3$2724d450$661aa8c0@airedale>
References: <e92136380512071211q3cfc1a6cy@mail.gmail.com>
	<000001c5fbb3$2724d450$661aa8c0@airedale>
Message-ID: <e92136380512072340k2cc04423g@mail.gmail.com>

You can add multiple wikis to the same database using the $wgDBprefix
directive in LocalSettings.php. For instance, you might have the
following snippets:

$wgSitename = "English Wiki";
$wgDBprefix = "en_"

and

$wgSitename = "French Wiki";
$wgDBprefix = "fr_"

You'd put one in the LocalSettings.php for English, for example, and
one in the French. They would use the same database, but different
tables. Sharing users and other items wouldn't be possible with that
method, however - although you could read on Meta
(http://meta.wikimedia.org) and http://www.mediawiki.org for
information on the _experimental_ shared database feature.

You're right about having subdirectories; each wiki would need it's
own LocalSettings.php file. You could, with a little bit of work,
place common software files in a directory above each language, then
include a lot of files at the start, however that's a bit extra work.


Rob Church

On 08/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> I have seen how to do sub-pages with the language code either at the
> front/middle or back, but this will not allow the sidebar to change as
> the languages change - at least I have not been able to figure out how
> to do this.
>
> The second option you talk of is multiple wiki's.  Not sure how to do
> this on the one domain but this is my best guess - pointing in the right
> direction would be good.
>
> 1.      Create a subdirectory off the main wiki page for each language
> et /fr
> 2.      Copy LocalSettings.php to that directory and change the
> following:-
>         $wgLanguageCode = "en";
>
>         Not sure here what else might need to be changed.
>
> In this way every language will use the same database have the same user
> base etc.  It will also mean that if you create a page that exists in
> another language that it will show as existing and not as a new page.
>
> Heck,  Can anyone step me through it?  Not confident after thinking
> about it a bit more.
>
> laurie
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
> Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 7:11 AM
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
>
> To have multiple pages of the same content in different languages,
> either separate wikis are required, or you could do something with
> subpages, e.g. http://www.foo.com/wiki/Page/en, /wiki/Page/fr, etc...
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 07/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> > Ok,
> >
> > Perhaps I need to provide a bit more information on where I am up to.
> >
> > Using Mediawiki 1.5.3.  I have setup 1 mysql database with no
> extensions
> > being used.
> >
> > I am at this time trying to determine how best to set up a
> > multi-language wiki.  I have been able to go into the interwiki
> database
> > and add the language codes for the additional languages.  Eg.
> > nl http://nl.wiki.phpgedview.net/index.php?title=$1 1
> >
> > Not quite sure what the 0 or 1 means in the iw_local field.
> >
> > I have figured out that I need to include $wgInterwikiMagic = true;
> into
> > my LocalSettings.php if I want the language codes to come up as
> > XX.website.com/index...  I have also seen that you can put the
> language
> > code either before or after the $1 variable in the interwiki database
> to
> > change where the language code comes up.
> >
> > What I imagined would happen is that when you selected a different
> > language that you would be able to edit the sidebar for each one
> somehow
> > like I do for the default language (MediaWiki:Sidebar).  I have also
> > read somewhere that you need multiple databases for running multiple
> > languages.  This site is basically designed to be one document
> > replicated into a number of languages.
> >
> > Sorry but I am VERY new to all this and can not find an easy step
> > through anywhere let alone a hard one.
> >
> > I could also not find the work sidebar at all in Languagesxx.php file.
> >
> > Laurie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> > [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
> > Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 1:11 AM
> > To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> > Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
> >
> > What you should be able to do is edit the appropriate LanguageXX.php
> > file, find the entry for 'sidebar', and edit that as appropriate. When
> > a user selects a language other than the default, you should find the
> > interface loads from that language file, and the sidebar should
> > hopefully update.
> >
> >
> > Rob Church
> >
> > On 07/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> > > I am very new to wiki's and I am trying to set up a multiple
> language
> > > one.  I can not get the sidebar to change to the appropriate
> languages
> > > etc when you select them.
> > >
> > > Can anyone help me with a simple set through of what I should do
> > please.
> > >
> > > Laurie
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
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From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec  8 07:56:36 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:56:36 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] email problem
In-Reply-To: <20051207182832.38044.qmail@web35702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20051207182832.38044.qmail@web35702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512072356pe3d32b6s@mail.gmail.com>

Read the sendmail documentation.


Rob Church

On 07/12/05, qijie chen <service88port at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>   I installed mediawiki 1.5.3 on Fedora 4. I also has sendmail installed and running.
>   But the mediawiki email notification does no seem to work.  Neither does the email sending the new password for the existing registrated user who forgets the password.
>
>   Do I need to do some configuration on the sendmail? How?
>
>   Thanks in advance
>   Chris
>
>
> ---------------------------------
>  Yahoo! DSL Something to write home about. Just $16.99/mo. or less
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From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec  8 07:59:20 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 07:59:20 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] need help installing memcaching app on win 2k3
	server
In-Reply-To: <052c01c5fb95$e9557d40$43197443@lan.inventures.com>
References: <052c01c5fb95$e9557d40$43197443@lan.inventures.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512072359v6b3a1e08v@mail.gmail.com>

You've told MediaWiki to use memcached servers, but fed it a blank
array...http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Configuration_settings#Memcached_settings
might be of some use here.


Rob Church

On 08/12/05, Isaac Gonzalez <youngi at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> after reading/researching for a few hours about installing a memcaching app for the wiki, I decided to try eaccelerator.
>
> I am running PHP 4.3.11/MYSQL 4.1.x . One wiki 1.4.5 and a new wiki pointing to a different db running 1.5.3.
>
> I found a pre-compiled dll here http://www.arnot.info/eaccelerator/   (used eaccelerator_win_4.3.11.dll  since that matched my php version) for e-accelerator which wiki setup detected, however once setup was successful, the wiki homepage would not load for my new wiki. Nor would my old wiki load either. (no error messages,...just a browser hang after a few mins) Hence I disabled the e-accelerator extension in php.ini and found a version of memcache here http://pecl4win.php.net/ext.php/php_memcache.dll and grabbed the php_memcache.dll file for 4.3.11 and enabled the extension within php.ini. All seems well except I think I have to change the code in local_settings.php for the 1.5.3 wiki which accounted for the eaccelerator option I tried to use:
>
> ## Shared memory settings
> $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_ACCEL;   ##was set by me I imagine
> $wgMemCachedServers = array();
>
> I also probably have to change the code in my 1.4.5 install but I'm not too worried about that one using memcache since it will be pretty locked down.
>
> Anyone know what I need to change this to to make it actually work?
>
> thanks,
> Isaac
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From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec  8 08:03:14 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 08:03:14 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Help
In-Reply-To: <000e01c5fb71$413de9e0$0101a8c0@taron>
References: <000e01c5fb71$413de9e0$0101a8c0@taron>
Message-ID: <e92136380512080003gcba32a7i@mail.gmail.com>

You moved things around? And the software's expected to find the files
how? Please preserve the file structure MediaWiki ships in; it's like
that for a reason.


Rob Church

On 07/12/05, ROOT <root.hpage at web.de> wrote:
> I installed the wiki but on the account is the php_ini disabled so i changed the files how written in the archiv and the instalation "work" but now if i visit the page i get
>
> Warning: main(../includes/SiteConfiguration.php): failed to open stream: No such file or directory in /usr/export/www/hosting/taron/wiki/includes/DefaultSettings.php on line 27
>
> Fatal error: main(): Failed opening required '../includes/SiteConfiguration.php' (include_path='.:') in /usr/export/www/hosting/taron/wiki/includes/DefaultSettings.php on line 27
>
>
> But the file exist... what can i do?
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> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From HerrmanM at klilu.de  Thu Dec  8 09:09:46 2005
From: HerrmanM at klilu.de (Markus Herrmann)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 10:09:46 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] sysop password forgotten
Message-ID: <s3980686.033@klilu.de>

hey guys,

your are my last chance.

the guy who has set up the wiki here in my foundation is gone.

and now it's up to me the administrate the wiki. so i need the sysop
password. but i couldn't find it!

is there any opportunity to recover the old password? or to change it?

thx so far!

ey i'm german! sry for my english ;-)

greetz markus


From hans.voss at gmail.com  Thu Dec  8 09:27:26 2005
From: hans.voss at gmail.com (Hans Voss)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:27:26 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] sysop password forgotten
In-Reply-To: <s3980686.033@klilu.de>
References: <s3980686.033@klilu.de>
Message-ID: <c33a90fa0512080127m77529250s38c37bd2a24cb354@mail.gmail.com>

Yes there is. I have to look it up.
It has to evolve some direct database hacking and php scripting.
Procedure is for linux and you'll want access to the command prompt.

I'll mail the solution once I found it.

On 12/8/05, Markus Herrmann <HerrmanM at klilu.de> wrote:
> hey guys,
>
> your are my last chance.
>
> the guy who has set up the wiki here in my foundation is gone.
>
> and now it's up to me the administrate the wiki. so i need the sysop
> password. but i couldn't find it!
>
> is there any opportunity to recover the old password? or to change it?
>
> thx so far!
>
> ey i'm german! sry for my english ;-)
>
> greetz markus
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


--
----
Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
Hans Voss
---------------------------------------
skype: hans.voss
google talk enabled
I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations left.


From hans.voss at gmail.com  Thu Dec  8 09:48:16 2005
From: hans.voss at gmail.com (Hans Voss)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:48:16 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] sysop password forgotten
In-Reply-To: <c33a90fa0512080127m77529250s38c37bd2a24cb354@mail.gmail.com>
References: <s3980686.033@klilu.de>
	<c33a90fa0512080127m77529250s38c37bd2a24cb354@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c33a90fa0512080148g1a0323d9u703aaded6362f205@mail.gmail.com>

Got it. I'll need to translate from dutch as I go along:
Procedure assumes:
*Linux with command prompt access
*access to php interpreter
*access to the wiki HTML source (LocalSettings.php file).
*mysql. Instead of direct mysql commandline access you could use
something like phpMyAdmin

Settings like 'which database inside mysql is used' and 'what user and
password are required to access that database in mysql' can be found
by accessing the LocalSettings.php file in the wiki install.

First you'll need access to the command prompt of the machine.
No root access required
start the mysql client: $ mysql -p -u wikiuser wikidb
Type the following query:
  SELECT user_id, user_name, user_password
  FROM user WHERE user_name = "WikiSysop";

this should get you something like:
+---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
| user_id | user_name | user_password                    |
+---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
|       15 | WikiSysop     | e4bda1f6162596e744463e1d17c9cc0c |
+---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
(best viewed in non-proportional font type like Courier)

>From the documentation I found how the password hash is created and I
wrote a small php program to do just that. (It's not user friendly but
it works).

Create a file (for example mypwd.php) with approximately the following content:
<?php
# select user_id from user where user_name = "name of user";
$a=md5 ( "MyNewPa$$wordHere" );  # the new password you want
echo "\n\n";
# IN FRONT OF the minus sign ('-') enter the user_id found with the mysql query.
# (so replace the '5' with the id found).
echo md5 ( "5-{$a}"  );
echo "\n";
# call with php mypwd.php
?>
The results the actual hash value that needs to be entered into the database.

start mysql client again and enter the following query:
UPDATE user SET user_passwd = "new hash value" WHERE user_id = <userid-of-user>

This should do the trick.
If this procedure is too much over your head, you might ask your
system admin to help you out.


Hope this helps.
On 12/8/05, Hans Voss <hans.voss at gmail.com> wrote:
> Yes there is. I have to look it up.
> It has to evolve some direct database hacking and php scripting.
> Procedure is for linux and you'll want access to the command prompt.
>
> I'll mail the solution once I found it.
>
> On 12/8/05, Markus Herrmann <HerrmanM at klilu.de> wrote:
> > hey guys,
> >
> > your are my last chance.
> >
> > the guy who has set up the wiki here in my foundation is gone.
> >
> > and now it's up to me the administrate the wiki. so i need the sysop
> > password. but i couldn't find it!
> >
> > is there any opportunity to recover the old password? or to change it?
> >
> > thx so far!
> >
> > ey i'm german! sry for my english ;-)
> >
> > greetz markus
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
>
>
> --
> ----
> Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
> Hans Voss
> ---------------------------------------
> skype: hans.voss
> google talk enabled
> I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations left.
>


--
----
Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
Hans Voss
---------------------------------------
skype: hans.voss
google talk enabled
I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations left.


From leongo at ebi.ac.uk  Thu Dec  8 10:30:58 2005
From: leongo at ebi.ac.uk (Leon Goldovsky)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 10:30:58 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] creating pages in batch mode
Message-ID: <43980B62.4020108@ebi.ac.uk>

Hi,

I am just starting using the Mediawiki, I would like to create an 
initial website that will contain pre-created pages for users to modify 
and expand. Is there an option to create pages in batch mode?
Any help will be extremely apriciated.

Many thanks
Leon


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec  8 10:45:22 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:45:22 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] sysop password forgotten
In-Reply-To: <c33a90fa0512080148g1a0323d9u703aaded6362f205@mail.gmail.com>
References: <s3980686.033@klilu.de>
	<c33a90fa0512080127m77529250s38c37bd2a24cb354@mail.gmail.com>
	<c33a90fa0512080148g1a0323d9u703aaded6362f205@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512080245s5c8aee53i@mail.gmail.com>

Far easier alternative - set the email address of the sysop user to be
yours, and request a new password from the login screen.

Alternatively, register a new account and manually create the rows in
user_groups which will turn it into a sysop and a bureaucrat.


Rob Church

On 08/12/05, Hans Voss <hans.voss at gmail.com> wrote:
> Got it. I'll need to translate from dutch as I go along:
> Procedure assumes:
> *Linux with command prompt access
> *access to php interpreter
> *access to the wiki HTML source (LocalSettings.php file).
> *mysql. Instead of direct mysql commandline access you could use
> something like phpMyAdmin
>
> Settings like 'which database inside mysql is used' and 'what user and
> password are required to access that database in mysql' can be found
> by accessing the LocalSettings.php file in the wiki install.
>
> First you'll need access to the command prompt of the machine.
> No root access required
> start the mysql client: $ mysql -p -u wikiuser wikidb
> Type the following query:
>   SELECT user_id, user_name, user_password
>   FROM user WHERE user_name = "WikiSysop";
>
> this should get you something like:
> +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
> | user_id | user_name | user_password                    |
> +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
> |       15 | WikiSysop     | e4bda1f6162596e744463e1d17c9cc0c |
> +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
> (best viewed in non-proportional font type like Courier)
>
> >From the documentation I found how the password hash is created and I
> wrote a small php program to do just that. (It's not user friendly but
> it works).
>
> Create a file (for example mypwd.php) with approximately the following content:
> <?php
> # select user_id from user where user_name = "name of user";
> $a=md5 ( "MyNewPa$$wordHere" );  # the new password you want
> echo "\n\n";
> # IN FRONT OF the minus sign ('-') enter the user_id found with the mysql query.
> # (so replace the '5' with the id found).
> echo md5 ( "5-{$a}"  );
> echo "\n";
> # call with php mypwd.php
> ?>
> The results the actual hash value that needs to be entered into the database.
>
> start mysql client again and enter the following query:
> UPDATE user SET user_passwd = "new hash value" WHERE user_id = <userid-of-user>
>
> This should do the trick.
> If this procedure is too much over your head, you might ask your
> system admin to help you out.
>
>
> Hope this helps.
> On 12/8/05, Hans Voss <hans.voss at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Yes there is. I have to look it up.
> > It has to evolve some direct database hacking and php scripting.
> > Procedure is for linux and you'll want access to the command prompt.
> >
> > I'll mail the solution once I found it.
> >
> > On 12/8/05, Markus Herrmann <HerrmanM at klilu.de> wrote:
> > > hey guys,
> > >
> > > your are my last chance.
> > >
> > > the guy who has set up the wiki here in my foundation is gone.
> > >
> > > and now it's up to me the administrate the wiki. so i need the sysop
> > > password. but i couldn't find it!
> > >
> > > is there any opportunity to recover the old password? or to change it?
> > >
> > > thx so far!
> > >
> > > ey i'm german! sry for my english ;-)
> > >
> > > greetz markus
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ----
> > Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
> > Hans Voss
> > ---------------------------------------
> > skype: hans.voss
> > google talk enabled
> > I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations left.
> >
>
>
> --
> ----
> Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
> Hans Voss
> ---------------------------------------
> skype: hans.voss
> google talk enabled
> I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations left.
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec  8 10:46:46 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 10:46:46 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] creating pages in batch mode
In-Reply-To: <43980B62.4020108@ebi.ac.uk>
References: <43980B62.4020108@ebi.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <e92136380512080246w3845e1beg@mail.gmail.com>

Not per se, but there are various methods of programmatically adding,
or automating the addition of, content. You could look at the Python
or Perl robot frameworks. You could also try importing an XML file
which is in the right format. You can add rows directly to the page,
revision and text tables in the database, if you so wish.


Rob Church

On 08/12/05, Leon Goldovsky <leongo at ebi.ac.uk> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am just starting using the Mediawiki, I would like to create an
> initial website that will contain pre-created pages for users to modify
> and expand. Is there an option to create pages in batch mode?
> Any help will be extremely apriciated.
>
> Many thanks
> Leon
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From leongo at ebi.ac.uk  Thu Dec  8 10:56:28 2005
From: leongo at ebi.ac.uk (Leon Goldovsky)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 10:56:28 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] creating pages in batch mode
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512080246w3845e1beg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43980B62.4020108@ebi.ac.uk>
	<e92136380512080246w3845e1beg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4398115C.6090006@ebi.ac.uk>

Thanks,

I think I will look into the tables first robots later and the XML the 
last as I am not sure of how to import them....

If you can elaborate on the XML importing side.

Thanks for the help!
Leon


Rob Church wrote:
> Not per se, but there are various methods of programmatically adding,
> or automating the addition of, content. You could look at the Python
> or Perl robot frameworks. You could also try importing an XML file
> which is in the right format. You can add rows directly to the page,
> revision and text tables in the database, if you so wish.
> 
> 
> Rob Church
> 
> On 08/12/05, Leon Goldovsky <leongo at ebi.ac.uk> wrote:
> 
>>Hi,
>>
>>I am just starting using the Mediawiki, I would like to create an
>>initial website that will contain pre-created pages for users to modify
>>and expand. Is there an option to create pages in batch mode?
>>Any help will be extremely apriciated.
>>
>>Many thanks
>>Leon
>>_______________________________________________
>>MediaWiki-l mailing list
>>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>
> 
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> 


From hans.voss at gmail.com  Thu Dec  8 10:59:55 2005
From: hans.voss at gmail.com (Hans Voss)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 11:59:55 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] sysop password forgotten
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512080245s5c8aee53i@mail.gmail.com>
References: <s3980686.033@klilu.de>
	<c33a90fa0512080127m77529250s38c37bd2a24cb354@mail.gmail.com>
	<c33a90fa0512080148g1a0323d9u703aaded6362f205@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512080245s5c8aee53i@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <c33a90fa0512080259o5e6cf53bi2e962b69e10730a5@mail.gmail.com>

Yeah, thats true. But at the time the e-mail didn't work properly.

On 12/8/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> Far easier alternative - set the email address of the sysop user to be
> yours, and request a new password from the login screen.
>
> Alternatively, register a new account and manually create the rows in
> user_groups which will turn it into a sysop and a bureaucrat.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 08/12/05, Hans Voss <hans.voss at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Got it. I'll need to translate from dutch as I go along:
> > Procedure assumes:
> > *Linux with command prompt access
> > *access to php interpreter
> > *access to the wiki HTML source (LocalSettings.php file).
> > *mysql. Instead of direct mysql commandline access you could use
> > something like phpMyAdmin
> >
> > Settings like 'which database inside mysql is used' and 'what user and
> > password are required to access that database in mysql' can be found
> > by accessing the LocalSettings.php file in the wiki install.
> >
> > First you'll need access to the command prompt of the machine.
> > No root access required
> > start the mysql client: $ mysql -p -u wikiuser wikidb
> > Type the following query:
> >   SELECT user_id, user_name, user_password
> >   FROM user WHERE user_name = "WikiSysop";
> >
> > this should get you something like:
> > +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
> > | user_id | user_name | user_password                    |
> > +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
> > |       15 | WikiSysop     | e4bda1f6162596e744463e1d17c9cc0c |
> > +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
> > (best viewed in non-proportional font type like Courier)
> >
> > >From the documentation I found how the password hash is created and I
> > wrote a small php program to do just that. (It's not user friendly but
> > it works).
> >
> > Create a file (for example mypwd.php) with approximately the following content:
> > <?php
> > # select user_id from user where user_name = "name of user";
> > $a=md5 ( "MyNewPa$$wordHere" );  # the new password you want
> > echo "\n\n";
> > # IN FRONT OF the minus sign ('-') enter the user_id found with the mysql query.
> > # (so replace the '5' with the id found).
> > echo md5 ( "5-{$a}"  );
> > echo "\n";
> > # call with php mypwd.php
> > ?>
> > The results the actual hash value that needs to be entered into the database.
> >
> > start mysql client again and enter the following query:
> > UPDATE user SET user_passwd = "new hash value" WHERE user_id = <userid-of-user>
> >
> > This should do the trick.
> > If this procedure is too much over your head, you might ask your
> > system admin to help you out.
> >
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> > On 12/8/05, Hans Voss <hans.voss at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Yes there is. I have to look it up.
> > > It has to evolve some direct database hacking and php scripting.
> > > Procedure is for linux and you'll want access to the command prompt.
> > >
> > > I'll mail the solution once I found it.
> > >
> > > On 12/8/05, Markus Herrmann <HerrmanM at klilu.de> wrote:
> > > > hey guys,
> > > >
> > > > your are my last chance.
> > > >
> > > > the guy who has set up the wiki here in my foundation is gone.
> > > >
> > > > and now it's up to me the administrate the wiki. so i need the sysop
> > > > password. but i couldn't find it!
> > > >
> > > > is there any opportunity to recover the old password? or to change it?
> > > >
> > > > thx so far!
> > > >
> > > > ey i'm german! sry for my english ;-)
> > > >
> > > > greetz markus
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > ----
> > > Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
> > > Hans Voss
> > > ---------------------------------------
> > > skype: hans.voss
> > > google talk enabled
> > > I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations left.
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > ----
> > Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
> > Hans Voss
> > ---------------------------------------
> > skype: hans.voss
> > google talk enabled
> > I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations left.
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


--
----
Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
Hans Voss
---------------------------------------
skype: hans.voss
google talk enabled
I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations left.


From max at upn.mx  Thu Dec  8 12:47:06 2005
From: max at upn.mx (Max de Mendizabal)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 06:47:06 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] sysop password forgotten
In-Reply-To: <c33a90fa0512080148g1a0323d9u703aaded6362f205@mail.gmail.com>
References: <s3980686.033@klilu.de>
	<c33a90fa0512080127m77529250s38c37bd2a24cb354@mail.gmail.com>
	<c33a90fa0512080148g1a0323d9u703aaded6362f205@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0512080644380.13956@mail.ajusco.upn.mx>


Or you could try from the mysql prompt

UPDATE user SET user_password=md5('mynewpassword') where 
user_name='WikiSysop' ;

After you quit the mysql prompt delete the log created (because mysql will 
keep the unencrypted password there).

Max

On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Hans Voss wrote:

> Got it. I'll need to translate from dutch as I go along:
> Procedure assumes:
> *Linux with command prompt access
> *access to php interpreter
> *access to the wiki HTML source (LocalSettings.php file).
> *mysql. Instead of direct mysql commandline access you could use
> something like phpMyAdmin
>
> Settings like 'which database inside mysql is used' and 'what user and
> password are required to access that database in mysql' can be found
> by accessing the LocalSettings.php file in the wiki install.
>
> First you'll need access to the command prompt of the machine.
> No root access required
> start the mysql client: $ mysql -p -u wikiuser wikidb
> Type the following query:
>  SELECT user_id, user_name, user_password
>  FROM user WHERE user_name = "WikiSysop";
>
> this should get you something like:
> +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
> | user_id | user_name | user_password                    |
> +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
> |       15 | WikiSysop     | e4bda1f6162596e744463e1d17c9cc0c |
> +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
> (best viewed in non-proportional font type like Courier)
>
>> From the documentation I found how the password hash is created and I
> wrote a small php program to do just that. (It's not user friendly but
> it works).
>
> Create a file (for example mypwd.php) with approximately the following content:
> <?php
> # select user_id from user where user_name = "name of user";
> $a=md5 ( "MyNewPa$$wordHere" );  # the new password you want
> echo "\n\n";
> # IN FRONT OF the minus sign ('-') enter the user_id found with the mysql query.
> # (so replace the '5' with the id found).
> echo md5 ( "5-{$a}"  );
> echo "\n";
> # call with php mypwd.php
> ?>
> The results the actual hash value that needs to be entered into the database.
>
> start mysql client again and enter the following query:
> UPDATE user SET user_passwd = "new hash value" WHERE user_id = <userid-of-user>
>
> This should do the trick.
> If this procedure is too much over your head, you might ask your
> system admin to help you out.
>
>
> Hope this helps.
> On 12/8/05, Hans Voss <hans.voss at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Yes there is. I have to look it up.
>> It has to evolve some direct database hacking and php scripting.
>> Procedure is for linux and you'll want access to the command prompt.
>>
>> I'll mail the solution once I found it.
>>
>> On 12/8/05, Markus Herrmann <HerrmanM at klilu.de> wrote:
>>> hey guys,
>>>
>>> your are my last chance.
>>>
>>> the guy who has set up the wiki here in my foundation is gone.
>>>
>>> and now it's up to me the administrate the wiki. so i need the sysop
>>> password. but i couldn't find it!
>>>
>>> is there any opportunity to recover the old password? or to change it?
>>>
>>> thx so far!
>>>
>>> ey i'm german! sry for my english ;-)
>>>
>>> greetz markus
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> MediaWiki-l mailing list
>>> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>>> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> ----
>> Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
>> Hans Voss
>> ---------------------------------------
>> skype: hans.voss
>> google talk enabled
>> I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations left.
>>
>
>
> --
> ----
> Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
> Hans Voss
> ---------------------------------------
> skype: hans.voss
> google talk enabled
> I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations left.
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec  8 15:13:49 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 15:13:49 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] sysop password forgotten
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0512080644380.13956@mail.ajusco.upn.mx>
References: <s3980686.033@klilu.de>
	<c33a90fa0512080127m77529250s38c37bd2a24cb354@mail.gmail.com>
	<c33a90fa0512080148g1a0323d9u703aaded6362f205@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0512080644380.13956@mail.ajusco.upn.mx>
Message-ID: <e92136380512080713n1efa37dy@mail.gmail.com>

That wouldn't work because password hashes aren't a straight MD5 of
the password text. Google for "MediaWiki md5 password" for more.


Rob Church

On 08/12/05, Max de Mendizabal <max at upn.mx> wrote:
>
> Or you could try from the mysql prompt
>
> UPDATE user SET user_password=md5('mynewpassword') where
> user_name='WikiSysop' ;
>
> After you quit the mysql prompt delete the log created (because mysql will
> keep the unencrypted password there).
>
> Max
>
> On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Hans Voss wrote:
>
> > Got it. I'll need to translate from dutch as I go along:
> > Procedure assumes:
> > *Linux with command prompt access
> > *access to php interpreter
> > *access to the wiki HTML source (LocalSettings.php file).
> > *mysql. Instead of direct mysql commandline access you could use
> > something like phpMyAdmin
> >
> > Settings like 'which database inside mysql is used' and 'what user and
> > password are required to access that database in mysql' can be found
> > by accessing the LocalSettings.php file in the wiki install.
> >
> > First you'll need access to the command prompt of the machine.
> > No root access required
> > start the mysql client: $ mysql -p -u wikiuser wikidb
> > Type the following query:
> >  SELECT user_id, user_name, user_password
> >  FROM user WHERE user_name = "WikiSysop";
> >
> > this should get you something like:
> > +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
> > | user_id | user_name | user_password                    |
> > +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
> > |       15 | WikiSysop     | e4bda1f6162596e744463e1d17c9cc0c |
> > +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
> > (best viewed in non-proportional font type like Courier)
> >
> >> From the documentation I found how the password hash is created and I
> > wrote a small php program to do just that. (It's not user friendly but
> > it works).
> >
> > Create a file (for example mypwd.php) with approximately the following content:
> > <?php
> > # select user_id from user where user_name = "name of user";
> > $a=md5 ( "MyNewPa$$wordHere" );  # the new password you want
> > echo "\n\n";
> > # IN FRONT OF the minus sign ('-') enter the user_id found with the mysql query.
> > # (so replace the '5' with the id found).
> > echo md5 ( "5-{$a}"  );
> > echo "\n";
> > # call with php mypwd.php
> > ?>
> > The results the actual hash value that needs to be entered into the database.
> >
> > start mysql client again and enter the following query:
> > UPDATE user SET user_passwd = "new hash value" WHERE user_id = <userid-of-user>
> >
> > This should do the trick.
> > If this procedure is too much over your head, you might ask your
> > system admin to help you out.
> >
> >
> > Hope this helps.
> > On 12/8/05, Hans Voss <hans.voss at gmail.com> wrote:
> >> Yes there is. I have to look it up.
> >> It has to evolve some direct database hacking and php scripting.
> >> Procedure is for linux and you'll want access to the command prompt.
> >>
> >> I'll mail the solution once I found it.
> >>
> >> On 12/8/05, Markus Herrmann <HerrmanM at klilu.de> wrote:
> >>> hey guys,
> >>>
> >>> your are my last chance.
> >>>
> >>> the guy who has set up the wiki here in my foundation is gone.
> >>>
> >>> and now it's up to me the administrate the wiki. so i need the sysop
> >>> password. but i couldn't find it!
> >>>
> >>> is there any opportunity to recover the old password? or to change it?
> >>>
> >>> thx so far!
> >>>
> >>> ey i'm german! sry for my english ;-)
> >>>
> >>> greetz markus
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> >>> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> >>> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >>>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> ----
> >> Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
> >> Hans Voss
> >> ---------------------------------------
> >> skype: hans.voss
> >> google talk enabled
> >> I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations left.
> >>
> >
> >
> > --
> > ----
> > Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
> > Hans Voss
> > ---------------------------------------
> > skype: hans.voss
> > google talk enabled
> > I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations left.
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From max at upn.mx  Thu Dec  8 15:28:10 2005
From: max at upn.mx (Max de Mendizabal)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 09:28:10 -0600 (CST)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] sysop password forgotten
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512080713n1efa37dy@mail.gmail.com>
References: <s3980686.033@klilu.de>
	<c33a90fa0512080127m77529250s38c37bd2a24cb354@mail.gmail.com>
	<c33a90fa0512080148g1a0323d9u703aaded6362f205@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0512080644380.13956@mail.ajusco.upn.mx>
	<e92136380512080713n1efa37dy@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0512080926190.23301@mail.ajusco.upn.mx>

Oops, sorry. I didn't knew that special feature of MediaWiki.

Max

On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Rob Church wrote:

> That wouldn't work because password hashes aren't a straight MD5 of
> the password text. Google for "MediaWiki md5 password" for more.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 08/12/05, Max de Mendizabal <max at upn.mx> wrote:
>>
>> Or you could try from the mysql prompt
>>
>> UPDATE user SET user_password=md5('mynewpassword') where
>> user_name='WikiSysop' ;
>>
>> After you quit the mysql prompt delete the log created (because mysql will
>> keep the unencrypted password there).
>>
>> Max
>>
>> On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Hans Voss wrote:
>>
>>> Got it. I'll need to translate from dutch as I go along:
>>> Procedure assumes:
>>> *Linux with command prompt access
>>> *access to php interpreter
>>> *access to the wiki HTML source (LocalSettings.php file).
>>> *mysql. Instead of direct mysql commandline access you could use
>>> something like phpMyAdmin
>>>
>>> Settings like 'which database inside mysql is used' and 'what user and
>>> password are required to access that database in mysql' can be found
>>> by accessing the LocalSettings.php file in the wiki install.
>>>
>>> First you'll need access to the command prompt of the machine.
>>> No root access required
>>> start the mysql client: $ mysql -p -u wikiuser wikidb
>>> Type the following query:
>>>  SELECT user_id, user_name, user_password
>>>  FROM user WHERE user_name = "WikiSysop";
>>>
>>> this should get you something like:
>>> +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
>>> | user_id | user_name | user_password                    |
>>> +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
>>> |       15 | WikiSysop     | e4bda1f6162596e744463e1d17c9cc0c |
>>> +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
>>> (best viewed in non-proportional font type like Courier)
>>>
>>>> From the documentation I found how the password hash is created and I
>>> wrote a small php program to do just that. (It's not user friendly but
>>> it works).
>>>
>>> Create a file (for example mypwd.php) with approximately the following content:
>>> <?php
>>> # select user_id from user where user_name = "name of user";
>>> $a=md5 ( "MyNewPa$$wordHere" );  # the new password you want
>>> echo "\n\n";
>>> # IN FRONT OF the minus sign ('-') enter the user_id found with the mysql query.
>>> # (so replace the '5' with the id found).
>>> echo md5 ( "5-{$a}"  );
>>> echo "\n";
>>> # call with php mypwd.php
>>> ?>
>>> The results the actual hash value that needs to be entered into the database.
>>>
>>> start mysql client again and enter the following query:
>>> UPDATE user SET user_passwd = "new hash value" WHERE user_id = <userid-of-user>
>>>
>>> This should do the trick.
>>> If this procedure is too much over your head, you might ask your
>>> system admin to help you out.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> On 12/8/05, Hans Voss <hans.voss at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Yes there is. I have to look it up.
>>>> It has to evolve some direct database hacking and php scripting.
>>>> Procedure is for linux and you'll want access to the command prompt.
>>>>
>>>> I'll mail the solution once I found it.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/8/05, Markus Herrmann <HerrmanM at klilu.de> wrote:
>>>>> hey guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> your are my last chance.
>>>>>
>>>>> the guy who has set up the wiki here in my foundation is gone.
>>>>>
>>>>> and now it's up to me the administrate the wiki. so i need the sysop
>>>>> password. but i couldn't find it!
>>>>>
>>>>> is there any opportunity to recover the old password? or to change it?
>>>>>
>>>>> thx so far!
>>>>>
>>>>> ey i'm german! sry for my english ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> greetz markus
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> MediaWiki-l mailing list
>>>>> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>>>>> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ----
>>>> Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
>>>> Hans Voss
>>>> ---------------------------------------
>>>> skype: hans.voss
>>>> google talk enabled
>>>> I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations left.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ----
>>> Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
>>> Hans Voss
>>> ---------------------------------------
>>> skype: hans.voss
>>> google talk enabled
>>> I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations left.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> MediaWiki-l mailing list
>>> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>>> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> MediaWiki-l mailing list
>> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Thu Dec  8 16:12:31 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 16:12:31 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] creating pages in batch mode
In-Reply-To: <4398115C.6090006@ebi.ac.uk>
References: <43980B62.4020108@ebi.ac.uk>
	<e92136380512080246w3845e1beg@mail.gmail.com>
	<4398115C.6090006@ebi.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512080812v12404b2cm@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/12/05, Leon Goldovsky <leongo at ebi.ac.uk> wrote:
> If you can elaborate on the XML importing side.

Well, MediaWiki has its own export/import XML functionality which
serve Special:Export and Special:Import as well as full database dumps
(with various external tools to do the actual dumping and importing).
The schema and a commented example are in the docs/ directory of the
source.

You could probably fairly easily create an XML file of all your
initial content and upload it into [[Special:Import]], if you're
reasonably confident with a bit of text-manipulation and/or XML
processing.

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From v.nagaraj at econwiki.lse.ac.uk  Thu Dec  8 16:53:21 2005
From: v.nagaraj at econwiki.lse.ac.uk (Vinayak Nagaraj)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 16:53:21 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] sysop password forgotten
In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0512080644380.13956@mail.ajusco.upn.mx>
References: <s3980686.033@klilu.de>	<c33a90fa0512080127m77529250s38c37bd2a24cb354@mail.gmail.com>	<c33a90fa0512080148g1a0323d9u703aaded6362f205@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.LNX.4.63.0512080644380.13956@mail.ajusco.upn.mx>
Message-ID: <43986501.5020400@econwiki.lse.ac.uk>

The correct specification would be

UPDATE user SET 
user_password=md5(concat(user_id,'-',md5('mynewpassword') where 
user_name ='WikiSysop' ;




Vinayak





Max de Mendizabal wrote:
>
> Or you could try from the mysql prompt
>
> UPDATE user SET user_password=md5('mynewpassword') where 
> user_name='WikiSysop' ;
>
> After you quit the mysql prompt delete the log created (because mysql 
> will keep the unencrypted password there).
>
> Max
>
> On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Hans Voss wrote:
>
>> Got it. I'll need to translate from dutch as I go along:
>> Procedure assumes:
>> *Linux with command prompt access
>> *access to php interpreter
>> *access to the wiki HTML source (LocalSettings.php file).
>> *mysql. Instead of direct mysql commandline access you could use
>> something like phpMyAdmin
>>
>> Settings like 'which database inside mysql is used' and 'what user and
>> password are required to access that database in mysql' can be found
>> by accessing the LocalSettings.php file in the wiki install.
>>
>> First you'll need access to the command prompt of the machine.
>> No root access required
>> start the mysql client: $ mysql -p -u wikiuser wikidb
>> Type the following query:
>>  SELECT user_id, user_name, user_password
>>  FROM user WHERE user_name = "WikiSysop";
>>
>> this should get you something like:
>> +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
>> | user_id | user_name | user_password                    |
>> +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
>> |       15 | WikiSysop     | e4bda1f6162596e744463e1d17c9cc0c |
>> +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
>> (best viewed in non-proportional font type like Courier)
>>
>>> From the documentation I found how the password hash is created and I
>> wrote a small php program to do just that. (It's not user friendly but
>> it works).
>>
>> Create a file (for example mypwd.php) with approximately the 
>> following content:
>> <?php
>> # select user_id from user where user_name = "name of user";
>> $a=md5 ( "MyNewPa$$wordHere" );  # the new password you want
>> echo "\n\n";
>> # IN FRONT OF the minus sign ('-') enter the user_id found with the 
>> mysql query.
>> # (so replace the '5' with the id found).
>> echo md5 ( "5-{$a}"  );
>> echo "\n";
>> # call with php mypwd.php
>> ?>
>> The results the actual hash value that needs to be entered into the 
>> database.
>>
>> start mysql client again and enter the following query:
>> UPDATE user SET user_passwd = "new hash value" WHERE user_id = 
>> <userid-of-user>
>>
>> This should do the trick.
>> If this procedure is too much over your head, you might ask your
>> system admin to help you out.
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>> On 12/8/05, Hans Voss <hans.voss at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yes there is. I have to look it up.
>>> It has to evolve some direct database hacking and php scripting.
>>> Procedure is for linux and you'll want access to the command prompt.
>>>
>>> I'll mail the solution once I found it.
>>>
>>> On 12/8/05, Markus Herrmann <HerrmanM at klilu.de> wrote:
>>>> hey guys,
>>>>
>>>> your are my last chance.
>>>>
>>>> the guy who has set up the wiki here in my foundation is gone.
>>>>
>>>> and now it's up to me the administrate the wiki. so i need the sysop
>>>> password. but i couldn't find it!
>>>>
>>>> is there any opportunity to recover the old password? or to change it?
>>>>
>>>> thx so far!
>>>>
>>>> ey i'm german! sry for my english ;-)
>>>>
>>>> greetz markus
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> MediaWiki-l mailing list
>>>> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>>>> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> ----
>>> Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
>>> Hans Voss
>>> ---------------------------------------
>>> skype: hans.voss
>>> google talk enabled
>>> I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations 
>>> left.
>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> ----
>> Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
>> Hans Voss
>> ---------------------------------------
>> skype: hans.voss
>> google talk enabled
>> I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations left.
>> _______________________________________________
>> MediaWiki-l mailing list
>> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l



From Arthur at assys.net  Thu Dec  8 17:35:07 2005
From: Arthur at assys.net (Arthur Guy)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 17:35:07 -0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] sysop password forgotten
Message-ID: <2A86EFBE967DCA498DEDBCB0541E17966369@zeus.assys.net>

You forgot the closing brackets!

UPDATE user SET 
user_password=md5(concat(user_id,'-',md5('mynewpassword'))) where 
user_name ='WikiSysop' ;

-Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Vinayak Nagaraj
Sent: 08 December 2005 16:53
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] sysop password forgotten

The correct specification would be

UPDATE user SET 
user_password=md5(concat(user_id,'-',md5('mynewpassword') where 
user_name ='WikiSysop' ;




Vinayak





Max de Mendizabal wrote:
>
> Or you could try from the mysql prompt
>
> UPDATE user SET user_password=md5('mynewpassword') where 
> user_name='WikiSysop' ;
>
> After you quit the mysql prompt delete the log created (because mysql 
> will keep the unencrypted password there).
>
> Max
>
> On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Hans Voss wrote:
>
>> Got it. I'll need to translate from dutch as I go along:
>> Procedure assumes:
>> *Linux with command prompt access
>> *access to php interpreter
>> *access to the wiki HTML source (LocalSettings.php file).
>> *mysql. Instead of direct mysql commandline access you could use
>> something like phpMyAdmin
>>
>> Settings like 'which database inside mysql is used' and 'what user
and
>> password are required to access that database in mysql' can be found
>> by accessing the LocalSettings.php file in the wiki install.
>>
>> First you'll need access to the command prompt of the machine.
>> No root access required
>> start the mysql client: $ mysql -p -u wikiuser wikidb
>> Type the following query:
>>  SELECT user_id, user_name, user_password
>>  FROM user WHERE user_name = "WikiSysop";
>>
>> this should get you something like:
>> +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
>> | user_id | user_name | user_password                    |
>> +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
>> |       15 | WikiSysop     | e4bda1f6162596e744463e1d17c9cc0c |
>> +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
>> (best viewed in non-proportional font type like Courier)
>>
>>> From the documentation I found how the password hash is created and
I
>> wrote a small php program to do just that. (It's not user friendly
but
>> it works).
>>
>> Create a file (for example mypwd.php) with approximately the 
>> following content:
>> <?php
>> # select user_id from user where user_name = "name of user";
>> $a=md5 ( "MyNewPa$$wordHere" );  # the new password you want
>> echo "\n\n";
>> # IN FRONT OF the minus sign ('-') enter the user_id found with the 
>> mysql query.
>> # (so replace the '5' with the id found).
>> echo md5 ( "5-{$a}"  );
>> echo "\n";
>> # call with php mypwd.php
>> ?>
>> The results the actual hash value that needs to be entered into the 
>> database.
>>
>> start mysql client again and enter the following query:
>> UPDATE user SET user_passwd = "new hash value" WHERE user_id = 
>> <userid-of-user>
>>
>> This should do the trick.
>> If this procedure is too much over your head, you might ask your
>> system admin to help you out.
>>
>>
>> Hope this helps.
>> On 12/8/05, Hans Voss <hans.voss at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Yes there is. I have to look it up.
>>> It has to evolve some direct database hacking and php scripting.
>>> Procedure is for linux and you'll want access to the command prompt.
>>>
>>> I'll mail the solution once I found it.
>>>
>>> On 12/8/05, Markus Herrmann <HerrmanM at klilu.de> wrote:
>>>> hey guys,
>>>>
>>>> your are my last chance.
>>>>
>>>> the guy who has set up the wiki here in my foundation is gone.
>>>>
>>>> and now it's up to me the administrate the wiki. so i need the
sysop
>>>> password. but i couldn't find it!
>>>>
>>>> is there any opportunity to recover the old password? or to change
it?
>>>>
>>>> thx so far!
>>>>
>>>> ey i'm german! sry for my english ;-)
>>>>
>>>> greetz markus
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> MediaWiki-l mailing list
>>>> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>>>> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> ----
>>> Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
>>> Hans Voss
>>> ---------------------------------------
>>> skype: hans.voss
>>> google talk enabled
>>> I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations 
>>> left.
>>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> ----
>> Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
>> Hans Voss
>> ---------------------------------------
>> skype: hans.voss
>> google talk enabled
>> I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations
left.
>> _______________________________________________
>> MediaWiki-l mailing list
>> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>
> _______________________________________________
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From rockefellaz at gmail.com  Thu Dec  8 17:54:12 2005
From: rockefellaz at gmail.com (Rockefellaz Fellow)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 00:54:12 +0700
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki as Background
Message-ID: <6535d4890512080954x242ebddes250b48551174c7b7@mail.gmail.com>

First of all....Helloo....I'm new here...Thx

OK...well, i need some suggestion from all of you...
i have a plan that i'll use mediawiki as background content of my site
(educational & non-profit).
but i'm bit confused doing that.
my filled by many feature, such as news, review, etc. and the main purpose
is educational through encyclopedia( first reason i use mediawiki). and this
site is open contribution (second reason).
But when i want grab the content (printable version), i don't know what i
have to do.
if i use fopen, many character will shown strangely, and the path still in
mediawiki directory....

so, pls help me.....

--
Rock for Freedom


From v.nagaraj at econwiki.lse.ac.uk  Thu Dec  8 18:16:37 2005
From: v.nagaraj at econwiki.lse.ac.uk (Vinayak Nagaraj)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 18:16:37 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] sysop password forgotten
In-Reply-To: <2A86EFBE967DCA498DEDBCB0541E17966369@zeus.assys.net>
References: <2A86EFBE967DCA498DEDBCB0541E17966369@zeus.assys.net>
Message-ID: <43987885.2060700@econwiki.lse.ac.uk>

Oops :-)



Arthur Guy wrote:
> You forgot the closing brackets!
>
> UPDATE user SET 
> user_password=md5(concat(user_id,'-',md5('mynewpassword'))) where 
> user_name ='WikiSysop' ;
>
> -Arthur
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Vinayak Nagaraj
> Sent: 08 December 2005 16:53
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] sysop password forgotten
>
> The correct specification would be
>
> UPDATE user SET 
> user_password=md5(concat(user_id,'-',md5('mynewpassword') where 
> user_name ='WikiSysop' ;
>
>
>
>
> Vinayak
>
>
>
>
>
> Max de Mendizabal wrote:
>   
>> Or you could try from the mysql prompt
>>
>> UPDATE user SET user_password=md5('mynewpassword') where 
>> user_name='WikiSysop' ;
>>
>> After you quit the mysql prompt delete the log created (because mysql 
>> will keep the unencrypted password there).
>>
>> Max
>>
>> On Thu, 8 Dec 2005, Hans Voss wrote:
>>
>>     
>>> Got it. I'll need to translate from dutch as I go along:
>>> Procedure assumes:
>>> *Linux with command prompt access
>>> *access to php interpreter
>>> *access to the wiki HTML source (LocalSettings.php file).
>>> *mysql. Instead of direct mysql commandline access you could use
>>> something like phpMyAdmin
>>>
>>> Settings like 'which database inside mysql is used' and 'what user
>>>       
> and
>   
>>> password are required to access that database in mysql' can be found
>>> by accessing the LocalSettings.php file in the wiki install.
>>>
>>> First you'll need access to the command prompt of the machine.
>>> No root access required
>>> start the mysql client: $ mysql -p -u wikiuser wikidb
>>> Type the following query:
>>>  SELECT user_id, user_name, user_password
>>>  FROM user WHERE user_name = "WikiSysop";
>>>
>>> this should get you something like:
>>> +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
>>> | user_id | user_name | user_password                    |
>>> +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
>>> |       15 | WikiSysop     | e4bda1f6162596e744463e1d17c9cc0c |
>>> +---------+-----------+----------------------------------+
>>> (best viewed in non-proportional font type like Courier)
>>>
>>>       
>>>> From the documentation I found how the password hash is created and
>>>>         
> I
>   
>>> wrote a small php program to do just that. (It's not user friendly
>>>       
> but
>   
>>> it works).
>>>
>>> Create a file (for example mypwd.php) with approximately the 
>>> following content:
>>> <?php
>>> # select user_id from user where user_name = "name of user";
>>> $a=md5 ( "MyNewPa$$wordHere" );  # the new password you want
>>> echo "\n\n";
>>> # IN FRONT OF the minus sign ('-') enter the user_id found with the 
>>> mysql query.
>>> # (so replace the '5' with the id found).
>>> echo md5 ( "5-{$a}"  );
>>> echo "\n";
>>> # call with php mypwd.php
>>> ?>
>>> The results the actual hash value that needs to be entered into the 
>>> database.
>>>
>>> start mysql client again and enter the following query:
>>> UPDATE user SET user_passwd = "new hash value" WHERE user_id = 
>>> <userid-of-user>
>>>
>>> This should do the trick.
>>> If this procedure is too much over your head, you might ask your
>>> system admin to help you out.
>>>
>>>
>>> Hope this helps.
>>> On 12/8/05, Hans Voss <hans.voss at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>       
>>>> Yes there is. I have to look it up.
>>>> It has to evolve some direct database hacking and php scripting.
>>>> Procedure is for linux and you'll want access to the command prompt.
>>>>
>>>> I'll mail the solution once I found it.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/8/05, Markus Herrmann <HerrmanM at klilu.de> wrote:
>>>>         
>>>>> hey guys,
>>>>>
>>>>> your are my last chance.
>>>>>
>>>>> the guy who has set up the wiki here in my foundation is gone.
>>>>>
>>>>> and now it's up to me the administrate the wiki. so i need the
>>>>>           
> sysop
>   
>>>>> password. but i couldn't find it!
>>>>>
>>>>> is there any opportunity to recover the old password? or to change
>>>>>           
> it?
>   
>>>>> thx so far!
>>>>>
>>>>> ey i'm german! sry for my english ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> greetz markus
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> MediaWiki-l mailing list
>>>>> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>>>>> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>>>>
>>>>>           
>>>> -- 
>>>> ----
>>>> Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
>>>> Hans Voss
>>>> ---------------------------------------
>>>> skype: hans.voss
>>>> google talk enabled
>>>> I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations 
>>>> left.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> -- 
>>> ----
>>> Met vriendelijke groeten / With kind regards
>>> Hans Voss
>>> ---------------------------------------
>>> skype: hans.voss
>>> google talk enabled
>>> I am looking for people to invite to Gmail. I have 100 invitations
>>>       
> left.
>   
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> MediaWiki-l mailing list
>>> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>>> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>>
>>>       
>> _______________________________________________
>> MediaWiki-l mailing list
>> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>     
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>   



From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec  8 19:18:46 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 19:18:46 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki as Background
In-Reply-To: <6535d4890512080954x242ebddes250b48551174c7b7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6535d4890512080954x242ebddes250b48551174c7b7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512081118h389aeb72u@mail.gmail.com>

Printable version? index.php?title=foo&print=1


Rob Church

On 08/12/05, Rockefellaz Fellow <rockefellaz at gmail.com> wrote:
> First of all....Helloo....I'm new here...Thx
>
> OK...well, i need some suggestion from all of you...
> i have a plan that i'll use mediawiki as background content of my site
> (educational & non-profit).
> but i'm bit confused doing that.
> my filled by many feature, such as news, review, etc. and the main purpose
> is educational through encyclopedia( first reason i use mediawiki). and this
> site is open contribution (second reason).
> But when i want grab the content (printable version), i don't know what i
> have to do.
> if i use fopen, many character will shown strangely, and the path still in
> mediawiki directory....
>
> so, pls help me.....
>
> --
> Rock for Freedom
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Thu Dec  8 19:55:08 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 19:55:08 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki as Background
In-Reply-To: <6535d4890512080954x242ebddes250b48551174c7b7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6535d4890512080954x242ebddes250b48551174c7b7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512081155w2d23c6f9i@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/12/05, Rockefellaz Fellow <rockefellaz at gmail.com> wrote:
> if i use fopen, many character will shown strangely, and the path still in
> mediawiki directory....

On what are you using fopen? MediaWiki content is stored in a
database, not a filesystem, so if you want to access the data you'll
need to either access the database directly (and hack a way of calling
the "parser") or make a HTTP request inside your program (using libwww
or something, I guess) to a pre-rendered version.

The best form for this is not the printable version but the completely
skinless version, available using "action=render"; e.g.
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:IMSoP&action=render
[The only disadvantage seems to be that it renders internal links as
full, rather than relative, URLs, which maybe isn't what you want;
maybe a hacked LocalSettings.php could give them a fake prefix?]

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From raphaelh at nist.gov  Thu Dec  8 21:15:10 2005
From: raphaelh at nist.gov (Raphael HUCK)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 16:15:10 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Search disabled
In-Reply-To: <9f02ca4c0512081155w2d23c6f9i@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6535d4890512080954x242ebddes250b48551174c7b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512081155w2d23c6f9i@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4398A25E.2020507@nist.gov>

Hi,

I've been trying to activate the search input box for my Mediawiki, with 
no success. I've been looking at everything I could find about it in the 
documentation, and did what is said...

Versions:
* MediaWiki: 1.5.2
* PHP: 4.3.11 (apache)
* MySQL: 4.0.25-standard

Any idea ?

Thanks in advance.

--Raphael HUCK


From brion at pobox.com  Thu Dec  8 21:28:25 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 13:28:25 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Search disabled
In-Reply-To: <4398A25E.2020507@nist.gov>
References: <6535d4890512080954x242ebddes250b48551174c7b7@mail.gmail.com>	<9f02ca4c0512081155w2d23c6f9i@mail.gmail.com>
	<4398A25E.2020507@nist.gov>
Message-ID: <4398A579.4040504@pobox.com>

Raphael HUCK wrote:
> I've been trying to activate the search input box for my Mediawiki, with
> no success. I've been looking at everything I could find about it in the
> documentation, and did what is said...

Which search input box, and how's it disabled?

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From raphaelh at nist.gov  Thu Dec  8 22:23:37 2005
From: raphaelh at nist.gov (Raphael HUCK)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:23:37 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Search disabled
In-Reply-To: <4398A579.4040504@pobox.com>
References: <6535d4890512080954x242ebddes250b48551174c7b7@mail.gmail.com>	<9f02ca4c0512081155w2d23c6f9i@mail.gmail.com>	<4398A25E.2020507@nist.gov>
	<4398A579.4040504@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <4398B269.1080003@nist.gov>

I mean the search box to search on the wiki, the one usually under the 
navigation menu (full text search) :
  <div id="p-search" class="portlet">

By disabled I mean it doesn't show on the main page (the p-search div is 
not is the source).

My $wgDisableTextSearch = false. $wgDisableInternalSearch = false also.

Thanks,

--Raphael HUCK


> Raphael HUCK wrote:
> 
>>I've been trying to activate the search input box for my Mediawiki, with
>>no success. I've been looking at everything I could find about it in the
>>documentation, and did what is said...
> 
> 
> Which search input box, and how's it disabled?
> 
> -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
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From brion at pobox.com  Thu Dec  8 22:26:34 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 14:26:34 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Search disabled
In-Reply-To: <4398B269.1080003@nist.gov>
References: <6535d4890512080954x242ebddes250b48551174c7b7@mail.gmail.com>	<9f02ca4c0512081155w2d23c6f9i@mail.gmail.com>	<4398A25E.2020507@nist.gov>	<4398A579.4040504@pobox.com>
	<4398B269.1080003@nist.gov>
Message-ID: <4398B31A.9070501@pobox.com>

Raphael HUCK wrote:
> I mean the search box to search on the wiki, the one usually under the
> navigation menu (full text search) :
>  <div id="p-search" class="portlet">
> 
> By disabled I mean it doesn't show on the main page (the p-search div is
> not is the source).

There's no setting which would cause that to disappear, afaik.

Have you customized your MonoBook.php? Compare it to the original, and restore
the missing sections.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From raphaelh at nist.gov  Thu Dec  8 22:36:35 2005
From: raphaelh at nist.gov (Raphael HUCK)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:36:35 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Search disabled
In-Reply-To: <4398B31A.9070501@pobox.com>
References: <6535d4890512080954x242ebddes250b48551174c7b7@mail.gmail.com>	<9f02ca4c0512081155w2d23c6f9i@mail.gmail.com>	<4398A25E.2020507@nist.gov>	<4398A579.4040504@pobox.com>	<4398B269.1080003@nist.gov>
	<4398B31A.9070501@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <4398B573.2040705@nist.gov>

My MonoBook.php is the original one. It contains:

        <div id="p-search" class="portlet">
	  <h5><label for="searchInput"><?php $this->msg('search') ?></label></h5>
	  <div class="pBody">
	    <form name="searchform" action="<?php $this->text('searchaction') 
?>" id="searchform">
	      <input id="searchInput" name="search" type="text"
	        <?php if($this->haveMsg('accesskey-search')) {
	          ?>accesskey="<?php $this->msg('accesskey-search') ?>"<?php }
	        if( isset( $this->data['search'] ) ) {
	          ?> value="<?php $this->text('search') ?>"<?php } ?> />
	      <input type='submit' name="go" class="searchButton" 
id="searchGoButton"
	        value="<?php $this->msg('go') ?>"
	        />&nbsp;<input type='submit' name="fulltext"
	        class="searchButton"
	        value="<?php $this->msg('search') ?>" />
	    </form>
	  </div>

--Raphael HUCK


> Raphael HUCK wrote:
> 
>>I mean the search box to search on the wiki, the one usually under the
>>navigation menu (full text search) :
>> <div id="p-search" class="portlet">
>>
>>By disabled I mean it doesn't show on the main page (the p-search div is
>>not is the source).
> 
> 
> There's no setting which would cause that to disappear, afaik.
> 
> Have you customized your MonoBook.php? Compare it to the original, and restore
> the missing sections.
> 
> -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l


From raphaelh at nist.gov  Thu Dec  8 22:57:11 2005
From: raphaelh at nist.gov (Raphael HUCK)
Date: Thu, 08 Dec 2005 17:57:11 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Search disabled
In-Reply-To: <4398B573.2040705@nist.gov>
References: <6535d4890512080954x242ebddes250b48551174c7b7@mail.gmail.com>	<9f02ca4c0512081155w2d23c6f9i@mail.gmail.com>	<4398A25E.2020507@nist.gov>	<4398A579.4040504@pobox.com>	<4398B269.1080003@nist.gov>	<4398B31A.9070501@pobox.com>
	<4398B573.2040705@nist.gov>
Message-ID: <4398BA47.4070208@nist.gov>

I have found the problem: it seems to be a bug in MonoBook.php.

<?php } ?> was put after the </div> closing <div id="p-search" 
class="portlet">,

it should have been put at the end of the </div> closing <div 
id="p-lang" class="portlet"> instead.

Thanks,

--Raphael HUCK




> My MonoBook.php is the original one. It contains:
> 
>        <div id="p-search" class="portlet">
>       <h5><label for="searchInput"><?php $this->msg('search') 
> ?></label></h5>
>       <div class="pBody">
>         <form name="searchform" action="<?php 
> $this->text('searchaction') ?>" id="searchform">
>           <input id="searchInput" name="search" type="text"
>             <?php if($this->haveMsg('accesskey-search')) {
>               ?>accesskey="<?php $this->msg('accesskey-search') ?>"<?php }
>             if( isset( $this->data['search'] ) ) {
>               ?> value="<?php $this->text('search') ?>"<?php } ?> />
>           <input type='submit' name="go" class="searchButton" 
> id="searchGoButton"
>             value="<?php $this->msg('go') ?>"
>             />&nbsp;<input type='submit' name="fulltext"
>             class="searchButton"
>             value="<?php $this->msg('search') ?>" />
>         </form>
>       </div>
> 
> --Raphael HUCK
> 
> 
>> Raphael HUCK wrote:
>>
>>> I mean the search box to search on the wiki, the one usually under the
>>> navigation menu (full text search) :
>>> <div id="p-search" class="portlet">
>>>
>>> By disabled I mean it doesn't show on the main page (the p-search div is
>>> not is the source).
>>
>>
>>
>> There's no setting which would cause that to disappear, afaik.
>>
>> Have you customized your MonoBook.php? Compare it to the original, and 
>> restore
>> the missing sections.
>>
>> -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> MediaWiki-l mailing list
>> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> 
> _______________________________________________
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> 
> 


From youngi at comcast.net  Thu Dec  8 23:43:49 2005
From: youngi at comcast.net (Isaac Gonzalez)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 15:43:49 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] need help installing memcaching app on win 2k3server
References: <052c01c5fb95$e9557d40$43197443@lan.inventures.com>
	<e92136380512072359v6b3a1e08v@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001001c5fc51$3d5c0b00$43197443@lan.inventures.com>

changed it to my local server ip and all seems fine.

not sure how to check to see if it is actually working or not.

but thanks, I appreciate your help.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Church" <robchur at gmail.com>
To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" 
<mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] need help installing memcaching app on win 
2k3server


You've told MediaWiki to use memcached servers, but fed it a blank
array...http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Configuration_settings#Memcached_settings
might be of some use here.


Rob Church

On 08/12/05, Isaac Gonzalez <youngi at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> after reading/researching for a few hours about installing a memcaching 
> app for the wiki, I decided to try eaccelerator.
>
> I am running PHP 4.3.11/MYSQL 4.1.x . One wiki 1.4.5 and a new wiki 
> pointing to a different db running 1.5.3.
>
> I found a pre-compiled dll here http://www.arnot.info/eaccelerator/ 
> (used eaccelerator_win_4.3.11.dll  since that matched my php version) for 
> e-accelerator which wiki setup detected, however once setup was 
> successful, the wiki homepage would not load for my new wiki. Nor would my 
> old wiki load either. (no error messages,...just a browser hang after a 
> few mins) Hence I disabled the e-accelerator extension in php.ini and 
> found a version of memcache here 
> http://pecl4win.php.net/ext.php/php_memcache.dll and grabbed the 
> php_memcache.dll file for 4.3.11 and enabled the extension within php.ini. 
> All seems well except I think I have to change the code in 
> local_settings.php for the 1.5.3 wiki which accounted for the eaccelerator 
> option I tried to use:
>
> ## Shared memory settings
> $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_ACCEL;   ##was set by me I imagine
> $wgMemCachedServers = array();
>
> I also probably have to change the code in my 1.4.5 install but I'm not 
> too worried about that one using memcache since it will be pretty locked 
> down.
>
> Anyone know what I need to change this to to make it actually work?
>
> thanks,
> Isaac
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From humancell at gmail.com  Thu Dec  8 23:56:24 2005
From: humancell at gmail.com (HumanCell .org)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 00:56:24 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] importing public databases into mediawiki
Message-ID: <bdeb3400512081556r5b02a920t@mail.gmail.com>

I'd like to import a public database into my mediawiki, where each
*row* of the database corresponds to a new article.

Here's a simple example to clarify:

ID          Name    Height   Weight
Row1      fred       150        100
Row2      bill         210         55

After importing this DB I'd have two new articles (title: fred and bill)
 - the fred article has an infobox with parameters 150 and 100
 - the bill article has an infobox with parameters  210 and 55

My databases have thousands of entries...so an automated approach is
necessary.  Has this been done before?  Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks.


From youngi at comcast.net  Fri Dec  9 00:13:57 2005
From: youngi at comcast.net (Isaac Gonzalez)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 16:13:57 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] importing users/passwords from another database into
	mediawiki mysql db
References: <bdeb3400512081556r5b02a920t@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001801c5fc55$73595060$43197443@lan.inventures.com>

Hi,

I didn't see anything on the faq of an easy way to do this but here is my 
situation:

I would like to import users from another sql database into the mysql 
database for one of my wiki sites.

I already have the query that grabs the usernames/password in a txt file 
from the sql database, but I'm not sure how to properly insert them into the 
wiki db as normal users or sysops. Ideally only a few of these users will 
have sysop permissions and the rest will be regular users.

Also when a password is changed in the sql db, I will need to change it in 
the wiki db(will have to code the condition that compares passwords of 
course). When a user is deactivated in the sql db(another condition I will 
have to code to check to see if that user exists in the wiki user table) I 
would like to scramble that users password since you can't simply delete a 
user. I would also like to automate this process on a nightly basis.

Is this at all possible? We can definitely code this if it is possible since 
we have a couple of developers in house.

Thanks in advance for any assistance.

-Isaac
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "HumanCell .org" <humancell at gmail.com>
To: <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 3:56 PM
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] importing public databases into mediawiki


I'd like to import a public database into my mediawiki, where each
*row* of the database corresponds to a new article.

Here's a simple example to clarify:

ID          Name    Height   Weight
Row1      fred       150        100
Row2      bill         210         55

After importing this DB I'd have two new articles (title: fred and bill)
 - the fred article has an infobox with parameters 150 and 100
 - the bill article has an infobox with parameters  210 and 55

My databases have thousands of entries...so an automated approach is
necessary.  Has this been done before?  Anyone got any ideas?

Thanks.
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From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 00:58:14 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 00:58:14 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] importing public databases into mediawiki
In-Reply-To: <bdeb3400512081556r5b02a920t@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bdeb3400512081556r5b02a920t@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512081658i1089edecg@mail.gmail.com>

On 08/12/05, HumanCell .org <humancell at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd like to import a public database into my mediawiki, where each
> *row* of the database corresponds to a new article.
>
> Here's a simple example to clarify:
>
> ID          Name    Height   Weight
> Row1      fred       150        100
> Row2      bill         210         55

Well, since I just mentionned the XML import format in another posting
(there's a schema and example in the 'docs/' directory of the source),
here's a proposal using that:

1) write a script in your language of choice that queries the
database, and formats each row into something along the lines of:
<page><title>$name</title><revision><text>{{my
infobox|height=$height|weight=$weight}}</text></revision></page>
[this isn't actually valid, e.g. you need a timestamp and user etc in
the revision; these could be constants in your program though]

2) create the page [[Template:My infobox]] (or whatever you actually
want to call it) with appropriate stuff

3) go to Special:Import while logged in as a sysop, and import your
new XML file. Ta-da! A whole lotta new articles!

Alternatively, of course, you could write something that read from one
database and wrote to the other, but this way has the advantage that
most of the leg-work is done by existing MediaWiki code, and you don't
have to work out how. Except, unfortunately, it won't update the
tables used by "whatlinkshere" and co - see
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2483 (they'll be updated
as soon as you edit each page, probably even if you do a "null edit"
that doesn't actually save any changes)

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From judi_chen at yahoo.com  Fri Dec  9 05:39:53 2005
From: judi_chen at yahoo.com (judi chen)
Date: Thu, 8 Dec 2005 21:39:53 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] png file upload
Message-ID: <20051209053953.99933.qmail@web52310.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,
I have mediawiki 1.5.3 on Fedora 4.

I was able to upload gif file.
But when I tried to upload png file, I was given error
such as
corrupted file or extension is wrong.

I did not change the $wgFileExtensions in the
DefaultSetting.php

Any suggestion?
Thanks
jc

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From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 07:35:48 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:35:48 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] png file upload
In-Reply-To: <20051209053953.99933.qmail@web52310.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20051209053953.99933.qmail@web52310.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512082335q6386bcecn@mail.gmail.com>

Did you retry uploading? *Is* the file corrupt? Is it actually a PNG
file, i.e. does it have the correct MIME type?


Rob Church

On 09/12/05, judi chen <judi_chen at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
> I have mediawiki 1.5.3 on Fedora 4.
>
> I was able to upload gif file.
> But when I tried to upload png file, I was given error
> such as
> corrupted file or extension is wrong.
>
> I did not change the $wgFileExtensions in the
> DefaultSetting.php
>
> Any suggestion?
> Thanks
> jc
>
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From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 07:44:41 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:44:41 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] importing public databases into mediawiki
In-Reply-To: <9f02ca4c0512081658i1089edecg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bdeb3400512081556r5b02a920t@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512081658i1089edecg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512082344h452284adn@mail.gmail.com>

If you happen to pick Python, you could grab the Python robot
framework from http://pywikipediabot.sourceforge.net, tweak it, and
then run touch.py -file:file, where the file contains a list of the
imported article names - this too could be generated by your script.

There's also a bot for Perl, but you may just want to take the lazier
option; run the maintenance script for rebuilding link tables.


Rob Church

On 09/12/05, Rowan Collins <rowan.collins at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 08/12/05, HumanCell .org <humancell at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I'd like to import a public database into my mediawiki, where each
> > *row* of the database corresponds to a new article.
> >
> > Here's a simple example to clarify:
> >
> > ID          Name    Height   Weight
> > Row1      fred       150        100
> > Row2      bill         210         55
>
> Well, since I just mentionned the XML import format in another posting
> (there's a schema and example in the 'docs/' directory of the source),
> here's a proposal using that:
>
> 1) write a script in your language of choice that queries the
> database, and formats each row into something along the lines of:
> <page><title>$name</title><revision><text>{{my
> infobox|height=$height|weight=$weight}}</text></revision></page>
> [this isn't actually valid, e.g. you need a timestamp and user etc in
> the revision; these could be constants in your program though]
>
> 2) create the page [[Template:My infobox]] (or whatever you actually
> want to call it) with appropriate stuff
>
> 3) go to Special:Import while logged in as a sysop, and import your
> new XML file. Ta-da! A whole lotta new articles!
>
> Alternatively, of course, you could write something that read from one
> database and wrote to the other, but this way has the advantage that
> most of the leg-work is done by existing MediaWiki code, and you don't
> have to work out how. Except, unfortunately, it won't update the
> tables used by "whatlinkshere" and co - see
> http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2483 (they'll be updated
> as soon as you edit each page, probably even if you do a "null edit"
> that doesn't actually save any changes)
>
> --
> Rowan Collins BSc
> [IMSoP]
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 07:53:33 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:53:33 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Search disabled
In-Reply-To: <4398BA47.4070208@nist.gov>
References: <6535d4890512080954x242ebddes250b48551174c7b7@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512081155w2d23c6f9i@mail.gmail.com>
	<4398A25E.2020507@nist.gov> <4398A579.4040504@pobox.com>
	<4398B269.1080003@nist.gov> <4398B31A.9070501@pobox.com>
	<4398B573.2040705@nist.gov> <4398BA47.4070208@nist.gov>
Message-ID: <e92136380512082353rae2da8eh@mail.gmail.com>

http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org, then please.


Rob Church

On 08/12/05, Raphael HUCK <raphaelh at nist.gov> wrote:
> I have found the problem: it seems to be a bug in MonoBook.php.
>
> <?php } ?> was put after the </div> closing <div id="p-search"
> class="portlet">,
>
> it should have been put at the end of the </div> closing <div
> id="p-lang" class="portlet"> instead.
>
> Thanks,
>
> --Raphael HUCK
>
>
>
>
> > My MonoBook.php is the original one. It contains:
> >
> >        <div id="p-search" class="portlet">
> >       <h5><label for="searchInput"><?php $this->msg('search')
> > ?></label></h5>
> >       <div class="pBody">
> >         <form name="searchform" action="<?php
> > $this->text('searchaction') ?>" id="searchform">
> >           <input id="searchInput" name="search" type="text"
> >             <?php if($this->haveMsg('accesskey-search')) {
> >               ?>accesskey="<?php $this->msg('accesskey-search') ?>"<?php }
> >             if( isset( $this->data['search'] ) ) {
> >               ?> value="<?php $this->text('search') ?>"<?php } ?> />
> >           <input type='submit' name="go" class="searchButton"
> > id="searchGoButton"
> >             value="<?php $this->msg('go') ?>"
> >             />&nbsp;<input type='submit' name="fulltext"
> >             class="searchButton"
> >             value="<?php $this->msg('search') ?>" />
> >         </form>
> >       </div>
> >
> > --Raphael HUCK
> >
> >
> >> Raphael HUCK wrote:
> >>
> >>> I mean the search box to search on the wiki, the one usually under the
> >>> navigation menu (full text search) :
> >>> <div id="p-search" class="portlet">
> >>>
> >>> By disabled I mean it doesn't show on the main page (the p-search div is
> >>> not is the source).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> There's no setting which would cause that to disappear, afaik.
> >>
> >> Have you customized your MonoBook.php? Compare it to the original, and
> >> restore
> >> the missing sections.
> >>
> >> -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> >>
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From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 07:56:49 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:56:49 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] need help installing memcaching app on win 2k3server
In-Reply-To: <001001c5fc51$3d5c0b00$43197443@lan.inventures.com>
References: <052c01c5fb95$e9557d40$43197443@lan.inventures.com>
	<e92136380512072359v6b3a1e08v@mail.gmail.com>
	<001001c5fc51$3d5c0b00$43197443@lan.inventures.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512082356i26934dedh@mail.gmail.com>

Assuming the "local server IP" referred to is that of the memcached
server, it should be fine, yes.


Rob Church

On 08/12/05, Isaac Gonzalez <youngi at comcast.net> wrote:
> changed it to my local server ip and all seems fine.
>
> not sure how to check to see if it is actually working or not.
>
> but thanks, I appreciate your help.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Church" <robchur at gmail.com>
> To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list"
> <mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] need help installing memcaching app on win
> 2k3server
>
>
> You've told MediaWiki to use memcached servers, but fed it a blank
> array...http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Configuration_settings#Memcached_settings
> might be of some use here.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 08/12/05, Isaac Gonzalez <youngi at comcast.net> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > after reading/researching for a few hours about installing a memcaching
> > app for the wiki, I decided to try eaccelerator.
> >
> > I am running PHP 4.3.11/MYSQL 4.1.x . One wiki 1.4.5 and a new wiki
> > pointing to a different db running 1.5.3.
> >
> > I found a pre-compiled dll here http://www.arnot.info/eaccelerator/
> > (used eaccelerator_win_4.3.11.dll  since that matched my php version) for
> > e-accelerator which wiki setup detected, however once setup was
> > successful, the wiki homepage would not load for my new wiki. Nor would my
> > old wiki load either. (no error messages,...just a browser hang after a
> > few mins) Hence I disabled the e-accelerator extension in php.ini and
> > found a version of memcache here
> > http://pecl4win.php.net/ext.php/php_memcache.dll and grabbed the
> > php_memcache.dll file for 4.3.11 and enabled the extension within php.ini.
> > All seems well except I think I have to change the code in
> > local_settings.php for the 1.5.3 wiki which accounted for the eaccelerator
> > option I tried to use:
> >
> > ## Shared memory settings
> > $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_ACCEL;   ##was set by me I imagine
> > $wgMemCachedServers = array();
> >
> > I also probably have to change the code in my 1.4.5 install but I'm not
> > too worried about that one using memcache since it will be pretty locked
> > down.
> >
> > Anyone know what I need to change this to to make it actually work?
> >
> > thanks,
> > Isaac
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
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From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 07:59:37 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:59:37 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] importing users/passwords from another database
	into mediawiki mysql db
In-Reply-To: <001801c5fc55$73595060$43197443@lan.inventures.com>
References: <bdeb3400512081556r5b02a920t@mail.gmail.com>
	<001801c5fc55$73595060$43197443@lan.inventures.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512082359v5cdeffcm@mail.gmail.com>

It's all possible. Users and user rights are in the user and
user_groups tables. Google for "MediaWiki md5 password" to find out
the correct means for hashing up a password and remember group names
in the user_groups table are all lowercase.


Rob Church

On 09/12/05, Isaac Gonzalez <youngi at comcast.net> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I didn't see anything on the faq of an easy way to do this but here is my
> situation:
>
> I would like to import users from another sql database into the mysql
> database for one of my wiki sites.
>
> I already have the query that grabs the usernames/password in a txt file
> from the sql database, but I'm not sure how to properly insert them into the
> wiki db as normal users or sysops. Ideally only a few of these users will
> have sysop permissions and the rest will be regular users.
>
> Also when a password is changed in the sql db, I will need to change it in
> the wiki db(will have to code the condition that compares passwords of
> course). When a user is deactivated in the sql db(another condition I will
> have to code to check to see if that user exists in the wiki user table) I
> would like to scramble that users password since you can't simply delete a
> user. I would also like to automate this process on a nightly basis.
>
> Is this at all possible? We can definitely code this if it is possible since
> we have a couple of developers in house.
>
> Thanks in advance for any assistance.
>
> -Isaac
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "HumanCell .org" <humancell at gmail.com>
> To: <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 08, 2005 3:56 PM
> Subject: [Mediawiki-l] importing public databases into mediawiki
>
>
> I'd like to import a public database into my mediawiki, where each
> *row* of the database corresponds to a new article.
>
> Here's a simple example to clarify:
>
> ID          Name    Height   Weight
> Row1      fred       150        100
> Row2      bill         210         55
>
> After importing this DB I'd have two new articles (title: fred and bill)
>  - the fred article has an infobox with parameters 150 and 100
>  - the bill article has an infobox with parameters  210 and 55
>
> My databases have thousands of entries...so an automated approach is
> necessary.  Has this been done before?  Anyone got any ideas?
>
> Thanks.
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
> _______________________________________________
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>


From wiki at matthart.com  Fri Dec  9 13:01:33 2005
From: wiki at matthart.com (MHart)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 05:01:33 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] email problem
References: <20051207182832.38044.qmail@web35702.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<e92136380512072356pe3d32b6s@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001201c5fcc0$aec47c40$8b4012ac@WTML03000048>

Don't use SendMail - use Postfix. I got sendmail working... once... and it's 
a real pain. I have two servers running wikis with Postfix - all I had to do 
there was turn it on.

- MHart

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Church" <robchur at gmail.com>
To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" 
<mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 07, 2005 11:56 PM
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] email problem


Read the sendmail documentation.


Rob Church

On 07/12/05, qijie chen <service88port at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>   I installed mediawiki 1.5.3 on Fedora 4. I also has sendmail installed 
> and running.
>   But the mediawiki email notification does no seem to work.  Neither does 
> the email sending the new password for the existing registrated user who 
> forgets the password.
>
>   Do I need to do some configuration on the sendmail? How?
>
>   Thanks in advance
>   Chris
>
>
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From humancell at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 13:38:37 2005
From: humancell at gmail.com (HumanCell .org)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 14:38:37 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] importing public databases into mediawiki
In-Reply-To: <9f02ca4c0512081658i1089edecg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bdeb3400512081556r5b02a920t@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512081658i1089edecg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <bdeb3400512090538x20d27a4ep@mail.gmail.com>

> 3) go to Special:Import while logged in as a sysop, and import your
> new XML file. Ta-da! A whole lotta new articles!

That sounds pretty interesting Rowan.  So there only needs to be one
XML file containing all the rows and with one call to Special:Import
multiple articles are generated.  Neat.

> Alternatively, of course, you could write something that read from one
> database and wrote to the other,

Want to avoid that if possible.  So your first suggestion sounds better.

Rob's suggestion looks quite interesting too - I'm also looking for a
tool for data validation (to ensure infobox fields are valid data)  so
the bot might be quite useful for that too.

Thanks for the suggestions...am going to try them out...


From leongo at ebi.ac.uk  Fri Dec  9 13:51:45 2005
From: leongo at ebi.ac.uk (Leon Goldovsky)
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 13:51:45 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] importing public databases into mediawiki
In-Reply-To: <bdeb3400512090538x20d27a4ep@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bdeb3400512081556r5b02a920t@mail.gmail.com>	<9f02ca4c0512081658i1089edecg@mail.gmail.com>
	<bdeb3400512090538x20d27a4ep@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43998BF1.2020304@ebi.ac.uk>

Hi,

I am new here just tried importing a page (following Rob suggestions):

<mediawiki xmlns="http://www.mediawiki.org/xml/export-0.3/" 
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance" 
xsi:schemaLocation="http://www.mediawiki.org/xml/export-0.3/ 
http://www.mediawiki.org/xml/export-0.3.xsd" version="0.3" xml:lang="en">
<page>
   <title>JUST A TEST</title>
   <id>1287</id>
     <revision>
       <id>1288</id>
       <timestamp>2005-12-09T12:42:38Z</timestamp>
       <contributor><ip>172.22.68.72</ip></contributor>
       <text xml:space="preserve">testing1
       testing2
       testing3
       testing4
       testing5
       testing6
       testing7
       </text>
     </revision>
</page>
</mediawiki>

I guess we need to take care of the ids...

works very well using the importDump.php script.

You can search for the title in the search box but not for the text, is 
it possible to add the text to the search capabilities?

Thanks
Leon

HumanCell .org wrote:
>>3) go to Special:Import while logged in as a sysop, and import your
>>new XML file. Ta-da! A whole lotta new articles!
> 
> 
> That sounds pretty interesting Rowan.  So there only needs to be one
> XML file containing all the rows and with one call to Special:Import
> multiple articles are generated.  Neat.
> 
> 
>>Alternatively, of course, you could write something that read from one
>>database and wrote to the other,
> 
> 
> Want to avoid that if possible.  So your first suggestion sounds better.
> 
> Rob's suggestion looks quite interesting too - I'm also looking for a
> tool for data validation (to ensure infobox fields are valid data)  so
> the bot might be quite useful for that too.
> 
> Thanks for the suggestions...am going to try them out...
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> 


From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 15:59:53 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 15:59:53 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] importing public databases into mediawiki
In-Reply-To: <43998BF1.2020304@ebi.ac.uk>
References: <bdeb3400512081556r5b02a920t@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512081658i1089edecg@mail.gmail.com>
	<bdeb3400512090538x20d27a4ep@mail.gmail.com>
	<43998BF1.2020304@ebi.ac.uk>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512090759wcdd0093q@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/12/05, Leon Goldovsky <leongo at ebi.ac.uk> wrote:
> You can search for the title in the search box but not for the text, is
> it possible to add the text to the search capabilities?

Again, this needs the article to be "touched" in some way, probably by
making a null edit, and probably using a bot, as discussed above.

The importDump.php and Special:Import really *ought* to have a way of
dealing with such things, but they don't - partly, I think, because
unless there's a way of *deferring* such touches, it could amount to a
pretty major chunk of processing (for, say, an entire DB dump).

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From moseley at hank.org  Fri Dec  9 16:02:44 2005
From: moseley at hank.org (Bill Moseley)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 08:02:44 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Timezone setup -- an hour off
Message-ID: <20051209160244.GC26113@hank.org>

Fresh first-time install of 1.5.3 on Linux.

Trying to display times (like in a page's history) in a specific time
zone.  And not when a user is logged in.

Looking at DefaultSettings.php and
http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2004-April/000357.html
I tried this:

    $wgLocaltimezone="PST8PDT";
    #$wgLocaltimezone="America/Los_Angeles";
    putenv("TZ=$wgLocaltimezone"); 
    $wgLocalTZoffset = date("Z") / 3600;

Tried both of those timezone settings.

The machine's time is correct:

$ date
Fri Dec  9 08:00:49 PST 2005



-- 
Bill Moseley
moseley at hank.org



From moseley at hank.org  Fri Dec  9 16:19:21 2005
From: moseley at hank.org (Bill Moseley)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 08:19:21 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Pages not updated
Message-ID: <20051209161921.GD26113@hank.org>

1.5.3, fresh install.

I'm embarrassed to ask, but I can't seem to find in the docs why I can
edit pages with plain text, and they display fine.  But if I add ==
headings == or other formatting the page displays correctly in preview
but when saved it seems like only the last page without formatting is
displayed for that page.

The page's history shows the fully formatted version of the
pages.


-- 
Bill Moseley
moseley at hank.org



From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 16:25:48 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:25:48 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Pages not updated
In-Reply-To: <20051209161921.GD26113@hank.org>
References: <20051209161921.GD26113@hank.org>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512090825g738f444cu@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/12/05, Bill Moseley <moseley at hank.org> wrote:
> I'm embarrassed to ask, but I can't seem to find in the docs why I can
> edit pages with plain text, and they display fine.  But if I add ==
> headings == or other formatting the page displays correctly in preview
> but when saved it seems like only the last page without formatting is
> displayed for that page.

This could be a caching issue (and the formatting
irrelevant/coincidental). Have you tried doing a hard refresh in your
browser (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:CACHE), and using an
"action=purge" URL (like "action=edit")?

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 16:45:49 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:45:49 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] importing public databases into mediawiki
In-Reply-To: <9f02ca4c0512090759wcdd0093q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bdeb3400512081556r5b02a920t@mail.gmail.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512081658i1089edecg@mail.gmail.com>
	<bdeb3400512090538x20d27a4ep@mail.gmail.com>
	<43998BF1.2020304@ebi.ac.uk>
	<9f02ca4c0512090759wcdd0093q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512090845ka29b75bh@mail.gmail.com>

rebuildAll? rebuildXX?


Rob Church

On 09/12/05, Rowan Collins <rowan.collins at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 09/12/05, Leon Goldovsky <leongo at ebi.ac.uk> wrote:
> > You can search for the title in the search box but not for the text, is
> > it possible to add the text to the search capabilities?
>
> Again, this needs the article to be "touched" in some way, probably by
> making a null edit, and probably using a bot, as discussed above.
>
> The importDump.php and Special:Import really *ought* to have a way of
> dealing with such things, but they don't - partly, I think, because
> unless there's a way of *deferring* such touches, it could amount to a
> pretty major chunk of processing (for, say, an entire DB dump).
>
> --
> Rowan Collins BSc
> [IMSoP]
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 16:46:47 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:46:47 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Pages not updated
In-Reply-To: <20051209161921.GD26113@hank.org>
References: <20051209161921.GD26113@hank.org>
Message-ID: <e92136380512090846v4344848fi@mail.gmail.com>

Sounds like a caching issue to me. Do a hard-refresh in the browser
(usually Ctrl + the refresh button, for graphical browsers).


Rob Church

On 09/12/05, Bill Moseley <moseley at hank.org> wrote:
> 1.5.3, fresh install.
>
> I'm embarrassed to ask, but I can't seem to find in the docs why I can
> edit pages with plain text, and they display fine.  But if I add ==
> headings == or other formatting the page displays correctly in preview
> but when saved it seems like only the last page without formatting is
> displayed for that page.
>
> The page's history shows the fully formatted version of the
> pages.
>
>
> --
> Bill Moseley
> moseley at hank.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From moseley at hank.org  Fri Dec  9 17:49:23 2005
From: moseley at hank.org (Bill Moseley)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 09:49:23 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Pages not updated
In-Reply-To: <9f02ca4c0512090825g738f444cu@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051209161921.GD26113@hank.org>
	<9f02ca4c0512090825g738f444cu@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20051209174923.GA30967@hank.org>

On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 04:25:48PM +0000, Rowan Collins wrote:
> On 09/12/05, Bill Moseley <moseley at hank.org> wrote:
> > I'm embarrassed to ask, but I can't seem to find in the docs why I can
> > edit pages with plain text, and they display fine.  But if I add ==
> > headings == or other formatting the page displays correctly in preview
> > but when saved it seems like only the last page without formatting is
> > displayed for that page.
> 
> This could be a caching issue (and the formatting
> irrelevant/coincidental). Have you tried doing a hard refresh in your
> browser (see en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WP:CACHE), and using an
> "action=purge" URL (like "action=edit")?

No, it's no a caching issue.  I should have mentioned that (and that's
it's plugged in, too ;)  It's more likely something I missed setting
up the wiki -- or some fundamental lack of knowledge about mediwike.

Here's the page:

    http://www.cal-sailing.org/testwiki/index.php/Main_Page

Then look at the history.  Click on the top item in the history list
and you can see the main page is not really the most current version.

-- 
Bill Moseley
moseley at hank.org



From andrea at arena.cd  Sun Dec  4 17:49:32 2005
From: andrea at arena.cd (Arena Andrea)
Date: Sun, 4 Dec 2005 18:49:32 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Wie gleichzeitig mehrere Wikis betreiben
Message-ID: <50BF34DA-395A-4563-9536-DCA8C9E517E9@arena.cd>

Hallo,

Unser Projekt soll ein Wiki, dass in den Sprachen Deutsch,  
Italienisch, Franz?sich und English erh?ltlich werden. Dazu kommt ein  
Wiki, dass nur f?r  Administratoren da ist, sprich kein bearbeiten  
f?r den user.

Bis jetzt habe ich nur die Mediawiki Software auf einer Deutschen und  
dieser gesch?tzes Wiki installieren k?nnen.
Ich habe zwei Ordner mit Mediawiki und zwei Datenbanken erstellt.

Der Skin sollte bei allen Sprachen gleich aussehen.

Wie ist es systematisch am besten, die weiteren wikis zu installieren?


M?chte nochmals mein Ziel erkl?ren:

Der User sieht auf der Hauptseite links im Menu die verschiedenen  
Sprachen, wenn er z.b. auf Italienisch klickt, erscheint der Artikel  
auf Italienisch(inklusiv der Navigation). Und das mit allen Sprachen.

Wie ist das im Hintergrund am besten zu installlieren? Die Skins,  
Extensions und ganz wichtig die Bilder sollten f?r alle verf?gbar  
sein (keine doppelten dateien). Wie mache ich dann dass mit der  
Bilder Datenbank?


Vielen Dank im voraus

andy


From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 18:43:53 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 18:43:53 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Pages not updated
In-Reply-To: <20051209174923.GA30967@hank.org>
References: <20051209161921.GD26113@hank.org>
	<9f02ca4c0512090825g738f444cu@mail.gmail.com>
	<20051209174923.GA30967@hank.org>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512091043x6108b38p@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/12/05, Bill Moseley <moseley at hank.org> wrote:
> Here's the page:
>
>     http://www.cal-sailing.org/testwiki/index.php/Main_Page

I added "?action=purge", and it seems to have purged to the correct
version. Why it got stuck on that version in the first place, I've no
idea, but it seems it *was* a caching issue (server side, not browser
cache).

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From moseley at hank.org  Fri Dec  9 19:05:13 2005
From: moseley at hank.org (Bill Moseley)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 11:05:13 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Pages not updated
In-Reply-To: <9f02ca4c0512091043x6108b38p@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051209161921.GD26113@hank.org>
	<9f02ca4c0512090825g738f444cu@mail.gmail.com>
	<20051209174923.GA30967@hank.org>
	<9f02ca4c0512091043x6108b38p@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20051209190513.GD31323@hank.org>

On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 06:43:53PM +0000, Rowan Collins wrote:
> On 09/12/05, Bill Moseley <moseley at hank.org> wrote:
> > Here's the page:
> >
> >     http://www.cal-sailing.org/testwiki/index.php/Main_Page
> 
> I added "?action=purge", and it seems to have purged to the correct
> version. Why it got stuck on that version in the first place, I've no
> idea, but it seems it *was* a caching issue (server side, not browser
> cache).

(Hope I have fewer typos this time...)

Server side as in Mediawiki?  I assume it would have to be.
Is that a problem with the version I'm running?  Or just some cache
settings that need to be modified?

I changed this to false:

    $wgEnableParserCache = false;

Seems to have fixed it.

It's a low volume wiki, so anything else need changing?


fgrep Cache includes/DefaultSettings.php
/** Cache shared metadata in memcached. Don't do this if the commons wiki is in a different memcached domain */
$wgCacheSharedUploads = true;
$wgMainCacheType = CACHE_NONE;
$wgMessageCacheType = CACHE_ANYTHING;
$wgParserCacheType = CACHE_ANYTHING;
$wgLinkCacheMemcached = false; # Not fully tested
$wgMemCachedDebug   = false; # Will be set to false in Setup.php, if the server isn't working
$wgMemCachedServers = array( '127.0.0.1:11000' );
$wgMemCachedDebug   = false;
$wgMsgCacheExpiry       = 86400;
$wgEnableParserCache = false;
$wgCachePages       = true;
$wgCacheEpoch = '20030516000000';
$wgUseFileCache = false;
$wgFileCacheDirectory = "{$wgUploadDirectory}/cache";
 * Cache timeout for the squid, will be sent as s-maxage (without ESI) or
$wgUseWatchlistCache = false;
$wgWLCacheTimeout = 3600;
$wgFeedCacheTimeout = 60;


Any ideas about my timezone in the other message? ;)




-- 
Bill Moseley
moseley at hank.org



From raphaelh at nist.gov  Fri Dec  9 19:32:51 2005
From: raphaelh at nist.gov (Raphael HUCK)
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 14:32:51 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Integration with mailman
Message-ID: <4399DBE3.3050104@nist.gov>

Hi,

our association is using Mediawiki for its website, and mailman is used 
as a mailing list manager.

However, the web frontend of mailman is not integrated with the wiki, 
the look is different, and moreover it can be a bit hard for "normal 
users" to subscribe. And finally, we don't want users to have to 
register once for the wiki, and then another time for the mailing list.

I have found an extension for mailman:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailman

It works great, but it only displays another form to subscribe to the 
mailing list.

We would like users to be able to register to the wiki and the mailing 
list using the same form, all at once.

The problem is that mediawiki and mailman forms need to do a POST on 2 
different pages.

We have thought about a newsletter extension that would send a mail to 
all the subscribed users, but what we really want is a mailing list 
where users can send messages to the list too.

Has anyone done any kind of integration with a mailing list manager before ?

Thanks in advance,

--Raphael HUCK


From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 20:17:53 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 20:17:53 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Pages not updated
In-Reply-To: <20051209190513.GD31323@hank.org>
References: <20051209161921.GD26113@hank.org>
	<9f02ca4c0512090825g738f444cu@mail.gmail.com>
	<20051209174923.GA30967@hank.org>
	<9f02ca4c0512091043x6108b38p@mail.gmail.com>
	<20051209190513.GD31323@hank.org>
Message-ID: <e92136380512091217r34e587c4j@mail.gmail.com>

MediaWiki maintains all sorts of different caches, depending upon
what's available. For the most part, it works fine in that the cache
is invalidated when the pages are changed, and at a sensible rate.

The main page, however, in particular, can often become stubbornly out
of date. A good action=purge will clear this.


Rob Church

On 09/12/05, Bill Moseley <moseley at hank.org> wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 09, 2005 at 06:43:53PM +0000, Rowan Collins wrote:
> > On 09/12/05, Bill Moseley <moseley at hank.org> wrote:
> > > Here's the page:
> > >
> > >     http://www.cal-sailing.org/testwiki/index.php/Main_Page
> >
> > I added "?action=purge", and it seems to have purged to the correct
> > version. Why it got stuck on that version in the first place, I've no
> > idea, but it seems it *was* a caching issue (server side, not browser
> > cache).
>
> (Hope I have fewer typos this time...)
>
> Server side as in Mediawiki?  I assume it would have to be.
> Is that a problem with the version I'm running?  Or just some cache
> settings that need to be modified?
>
> I changed this to false:
>
>     $wgEnableParserCache = false;
>
> Seems to have fixed it.
>
> It's a low volume wiki, so anything else need changing?
>
>
> fgrep Cache includes/DefaultSettings.php
> /** Cache shared metadata in memcached. Don't do this if the commons wiki is in a different memcached domain */
> $wgCacheSharedUploads = true;
> $wgMainCacheType = CACHE_NONE;
> $wgMessageCacheType = CACHE_ANYTHING;
> $wgParserCacheType = CACHE_ANYTHING;
> $wgLinkCacheMemcached = false; # Not fully tested
> $wgMemCachedDebug   = false; # Will be set to false in Setup.php, if the server isn't working
> $wgMemCachedServers = array( '127.0.0.1:11000' );
> $wgMemCachedDebug   = false;
> $wgMsgCacheExpiry       = 86400;
> $wgEnableParserCache = false;
> $wgCachePages       = true;
> $wgCacheEpoch = '20030516000000';
> $wgUseFileCache = false;
> $wgFileCacheDirectory = "{$wgUploadDirectory}/cache";
>  * Cache timeout for the squid, will be sent as s-maxage (without ESI) or
> $wgUseWatchlistCache = false;
> $wgWLCacheTimeout = 3600;
> $wgFeedCacheTimeout = 60;
>
>
> Any ideas about my timezone in the other message? ;)
>
>
>
>
> --
> Bill Moseley
> moseley at hank.org
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From paul at paulbetts.org  Fri Dec  9 22:35:45 2005
From: paul at paulbetts.org (Paul Betts)
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 17:35:45 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Idea for MediaWiki - Thoughts on how to implement
Message-ID: <1134167745.18604.17.camel@localhost>

Hi! I came up with an idea for MediaWiki and I was wondering if I could
get the mailing list's thoughts on it. One of my favorite applications
is a program called Tomboy (the site is down, but the wp article on it
is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomboy_%28software%29). What would be
really awesome is that same kind of simple interface, but attached to a
MediaWiki backend, so this personal note-taking tool would be a great
way to collaborate. 
	Naturally, for really big wiki's this interface would probably be more
cumbersome than anything, but for small group projects it'd be
fantastic! Basically, here's what I came up with for how to implement
this, but I don't know much about MediaWiki so your opinions would be
very valuable; I'm implementing it in .NET to take advantage of the
existing Tomboy code (and because I like .NET)

1. Make an ASP.NET web service that responds to SOAP requests and
queries the MySQL database directly.
	- This way is version dependent, somewhat bad in software design
because now it's meddling with internal MediaWiki structures
	- Requires being installed on the server
	+ However, if it works, other applications could use it as well
	+ Doesn't require patching MediaWiki itself

2. Add an RSS feed to get recently changed page names and names of all
pages that exist, and use custom POSTs to submit new pages.
	- Requires patching / adding to MediaWiki
	- Still need to find a way to get the text of a page in MediaWiki
format
	+ Other apps could still use it but it would only work on patched wikis

3. Don't touch the server at all, use screen scraping and post requests
to do everything client-side
	- Ugly, custom themes might bust it
	- Very version dependent
	+ Works with all MediaWikis

I think that this project could definitely make MediaWiki more useful in
the area of small-group collaboration. If anyone's interested in helping
write it or has any ideas, I'd be glad for the help!

-- 
Paul Betts <paul at paulbetts.org>



From f-x.p at laposte.net  Sat Dec 10 00:23:23 2005
From: f-x.p at laposte.net (FxParlant)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 01:23:23 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] captcha in 1.5+
Message-ID: <dnd7bi$921$1@sea.gmane.org>

Hello,

Helping me out with the install of a captcha on mediawiki1.5 would be a
very nice Christam present, as it is been two month that I despair on this.

Anyway, I've created another calendar for mediawiki 1.5.
You put :
a date in a page: [[Dec/12/2005]]
and (optional) a category link: [[category: Cinema]] for exemple

You can display a calendar on any page by just adding:
<calendar></calendar>
and for each day of the month, you can see the pages linked to this day
(a mouseover gives you the names of the pages).

You can also filter by category:
<calendar>cat=Cinema</calendar>
and only the pages linked to a day AND to the cinema category will be
displaied. I think it is a good idea to put such a calendar on the
Category pages.

http://www.fxparlant.net/Mediawiki_Calendar

But, as long as I haven't got my captcha, I can't upgrade my site which
still runs version 1.3 and therefore I can't give you the demo of my
calendar extension. Pity :-(

Fran?ois




From robchur at gmail.com  Sat Dec 10 00:37:18 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 00:37:18 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] captcha in 1.5+
In-Reply-To: <dnd7bi$921$1@sea.gmane.org>
References: <dnd7bi$921$1@sea.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <e92136380512091637r5029b3b5h@mail.gmail.com>

Gasp...version 1.3...I...dear lord.

(Me passes out on the floor)


Rob Church

On 10/12/05, FxParlant <f-x.p at laposte.net> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Helping me out with the install of a captcha on mediawiki1.5 would be a
> very nice Christam present, as it is been two month that I despair on this.
>
> Anyway, I've created another calendar for mediawiki 1.5.
> You put :
> a date in a page: [[Dec/12/2005]]
> and (optional) a category link: [[category: Cinema]] for exemple
>
> You can display a calendar on any page by just adding:
> <calendar></calendar>
> and for each day of the month, you can see the pages linked to this day
> (a mouseover gives you the names of the pages).
>
> You can also filter by category:
> <calendar>cat=Cinema</calendar>
> and only the pages linked to a day AND to the cinema category will be
> displaied. I think it is a good idea to put such a calendar on the
> Category pages.
>
> http://www.fxparlant.net/Mediawiki_Calendar
>
> But, as long as I haven't got my captcha, I can't upgrade my site which
> still runs version 1.3 and therefore I can't give you the demo of my
> calendar extension. Pity :-(
>
> Fran?ois
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From info at lproj.com  Fri Dec  9 02:50:04 2005
From: info at lproj.com (Rob Das)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 03:50:04 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] No Sysop account
In-Reply-To: <20051208222358.A1C0C1158609@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051208222358.A1C0C1158609@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <174E14EF-8E47-4FA9-B0DB-913869CA1D9B@lproj.com>

Hi there, I managed to set up a wiki, but somehow the Sysop didn't  
make it in the user list, it is completely empty. Does anyone know  
how this is possible, or is it common behavior? Should I enter it  
through the MySql database? I did however fill in the name and  
password while installing...

Thanks, Rob


From james.shepard at gmail.com  Fri Dec  9 19:31:32 2005
From: james.shepard at gmail.com (James Shepard)
Date: Fri, 9 Dec 2005 19:31:32 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Help upgrading...
Message-ID: <BF6E26EF-6255-495B-81BB-DC14AEFFD87F@bigfoot.com>

Hi.

I am running a Mediawiki based wiki for professional airline pilots  
within British Airways aimed at distributing route information.

The version info is as follows:

MediaWiki (http://wikipedia.sf.net/): 1.3.11
PHP (http://www.php.net/): 4.3.10 (cgi)
MySQL (http://www.mysql.com/): 3.23.56

I wondered if somebody a bit more au fait with upgrading than me  
would help me upgrade the media wiki software to a more current  
version? I am wary of doing it myself in case I screw up the current  
database.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks in advance

James Shepard
777 Fleet
British Airways

From Evan.M.Miller at williams.edu  Fri Dec  9 21:57:22 2005
From: Evan.M.Miller at williams.edu (Evan Miller)
Date: Fri, 09 Dec 2005 16:57:22 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] yet another google maps extension
In-Reply-To: <6CE30734-1304-487D-ABD5-FDDF39E85FA0@williams.edu>
References: <6CE30734-1304-487D-ABD5-FDDF39E85FA0@williams.edu>
Message-ID: <5A43B3CF-9885-4D48-8D9E-FD3C34BA62B3@williams.edu>

Thanks for the feedback and bug reports, for those who sent them. If  
you had trouble getting this maps extension (or even the example) to  
work before, I encourage you to try out the new version: http:// 
meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Emiller/GoogleMapsExtension

This version has been tested with pretty much every Google Maps- 
capable browser, and it offers the sysadmin the ability to define  
default map parameters for the local wiki. Let me know if you like it!

Evan

On Dec 4, 2005, at 3:50 PM, Evan Miller wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Google offers an open API for displaying custom information on  
> their highly usable map application. This API seems suitable for  
> wikis, which is why there are already three MediaWiki extensions  
> for Google Maps. But these extensions seemed a bit too rigid for  
> me, needing database modifications and RSS feeds and the like just  
> to display markers. So I wrote a simple Google Maps extension: to  
> create a map with many labeled markers, you just describe one  
> marker per line with the format "latitude,longitude,label", and put  
> all of these markers inside of a <googlemap> tag. A neat feature is  
> that the marker labels will render wiki formatting. Because of its  
> flexibility, I think this extension will prove useful in a wide  
> variety of projects; I encourage you to try it out and send me  
> feedback.
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Emiller/GoogleMapsExtension
>
> Evan Miller
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

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From robchur at gmail.com  Sat Dec 10 02:28:10 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 02:28:10 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Help upgrading...
In-Reply-To: <BF6E26EF-6255-495B-81BB-DC14AEFFD87F@bigfoot.com>
References: <BF6E26EF-6255-495B-81BB-DC14AEFFD87F@bigfoot.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512091828n5572715eg@mail.gmail.com>

Best advice I can give you is to make a backup of the database and the
files, then have a go yourself. While there are things that could go
wrong, you shouldn't have too many problems. Read the UPGRADE document
for advice, then run the upgrade.php scripts and go from there.


Rob Church

On 09/12/05, James Shepard <james.shepard at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi.
>
> I am running a Mediawiki based wiki for professional airline pilots
> within British Airways aimed at distributing route information.
>
> The version info is as follows:
>
> MediaWiki (http://wikipedia.sf.net/): 1.3.11
> PHP (http://www.php.net/): 4.3.10 (cgi)
> MySQL (http://www.mysql.com/): 3.23.56
>
> I wondered if somebody a bit more au fait with upgrading than me
> would help me upgrade the media wiki software to a more current
> version? I am wary of doing it myself in case I screw up the current
> database.
>
> Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> James Shepard
> 777 Fleet
> British Airways
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From johannes.feigl at aon.at  Sat Dec 10 19:07:41 2005
From: johannes.feigl at aon.at (Johannes Feigl)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:07:41 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] writing a bot ... directest access to articles
Message-ID: <000f01c5fdbc$fe8eaf50$6400a8c0@notebook>

hi, i'm new in this mailinglist;

i want to write a php-bot for the german wikipedia;
i don't think it's possible the get direct access to the databases,
not only for reading;

so my question is:
what is the most direct access for:
* reading the source of a acticle
* writing/uploading a edited source
* knowing of a artice is a redirect, kategorie or something else

if there is no other possibility i can also access the the editing-
pages in wikipedia and extract the source of a page from there,
but i hope there is also an other way!

please let me know,
thanks, johannes


From tomk32 at gmx.de  Sat Dec 10 19:17:15 2005
From: tomk32 at gmx.de (Thomas R. Koll)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:17:15 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] writing a bot ... directest access to articles
In-Reply-To: <000f01c5fdbc$fe8eaf50$6400a8c0@notebook>
References: <000f01c5fdbc$fe8eaf50$6400a8c0@notebook>
Message-ID: <416F59A3-896F-4EAE-A414-701DFB17B3F2@gmx.de>


Am 10.12.2005 um 20:07 schrieb Johannes Feigl:
> i don't think it's possible the get direct access to the databases,
> not only for reading;

I bet it is impossible.


> so my question is:
> what is the most direct access for:
> * reading the source of a acticle
> * writing/uploading a edited source
> * knowing of a artice is a redirect, kategorie or something else
>
> if there is no other possibility i can also access the the editing-
> pages in wikipedia and extract the source of a page from there,
> but i hope there is also an other way!

There's pywikipediabot which should be able to do anything you want.
no need to write something new

ciao, tom

--
http://www.tomk32.de - just a geek trying to change the world
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Benutzer:TomK32
http://verlag.tomk32.de/c/wrdigest






From johannes.feigl at aon.at  Sat Dec 10 19:43:37 2005
From: johannes.feigl at aon.at (Johannes Feigl)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:43:37 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] writing a bot ... directest access to articles
References: <000f01c5fdbc$fe8eaf50$6400a8c0@notebook>
	<416F59A3-896F-4EAE-A414-701DFB17B3F2@gmx.de>
Message-ID: <002901c5fdc2$0358ef50$6400a8c0@notebook>

>> so my question is:
>> what is the most direct access for:
>> * reading the source of a acticle
>> * writing/uploading a edited source
>> * knowing of a artice is a redirect, kategorie or something else
>>
>> if there is no other possibility i can also access the the editing-
>> pages in wikipedia and extract the source of a page from there,
>> but i hope there is also an other way!
> 
> There's pywikipediabot which should be able to do anything you want.
> no need to write something new

yes i know, but i cannot speak python (yet) ;)
and i what to write the bot in php, i know php well...
does anyone know here how does pywikipediabot accesses to the
source code?

mfg johannes


From slowpoke at gmail.com  Sat Dec 10 19:57:43 2005
From: slowpoke at gmail.com (Dori)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:57:43 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] writing a bot ... directest access to articles
In-Reply-To: <002901c5fdc2$0358ef50$6400a8c0@notebook>
References: <000f01c5fdbc$fe8eaf50$6400a8c0@notebook>
	<416F59A3-896F-4EAE-A414-701DFB17B3F2@gmx.de>
	<002901c5fdc2$0358ef50$6400a8c0@notebook>
Message-ID: <d2f92e8b0512101157s5d72f5e0xf0b4b6ac31104111@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/10/05, Johannes Feigl <johannes.feigl at aon.at> wrote:
> >> so my question is:
> >> what is the most direct access for:
> >> * reading the source of a acticle
> >> * writing/uploading a edited source
> >> * knowing of a artice is a redirect, kategorie or something else
> >>
> >> if there is no other possibility i can also access the the editing-
> >> pages in wikipedia and extract the source of a page from there,
> >> but i hope there is also an other way!
> >
> > There's pywikipediabot which should be able to do anything you want.
> > no need to write something new
>
> yes i know, but i cannot speak python (yet) ;)
> and i what to write the bot in php, i know php well...
> does anyone know here how does pywikipediabot accesses to the
> source code?

There is no API, it's just as a browser would, through HTTP.

Dori

From sr.ribeiro at gmail.com  Sat Dec 10 20:39:15 2005
From: sr.ribeiro at gmail.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?S=E9rgio_Ribeiro?=)
Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2005 20:39:15 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] writing a bot ... directest access to articles
In-Reply-To: <d2f92e8b0512101157s5d72f5e0xf0b4b6ac31104111@mail.gmail.com>
References: <000f01c5fdbc$fe8eaf50$6400a8c0@notebook>
	<416F59A3-896F-4EAE-A414-701DFB17B3F2@gmx.de>
	<002901c5fdc2$0358ef50$6400a8c0@notebook>
	<d2f92e8b0512101157s5d72f5e0xf0b4b6ac31104111@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <71fb0a8e0512101239qc0a9bafr13e725d2d58fe4ba@mail.gmail.com>

Hi *Johannes Feigl,
*You might want to take a look at the phpwikibot project on SourceForget.
[1]

Best regards,
[1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpwikibot
--
Edit this page @ http://pt.wikipedia.org


From robchur at gmail.com  Sun Dec 11 00:19:12 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 00:19:12 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] No Sysop account
In-Reply-To: <174E14EF-8E47-4FA9-B0DB-913869CA1D9B@lproj.com>
References: <20051208222358.A1C0C1158609@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<174E14EF-8E47-4FA9-B0DB-913869CA1D9B@lproj.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512101619mb2f6b71w@mail.gmail.com>

Did you get any error messages at all during installation? MediaWiki's
installer creates a bureaucrat user by default. However, you can sort
it out. First check the user table to be sure there really isn't an
account.

If there is, set it's email address to yours, and use the "lost
password" feature.

If there isn't, create a new account from within the software, then
run the query INSERT INTO user_groups ( ug_user, ug_group ) VALUES (
1, "sysop", 1, "bureaucrat" );

This should sort it out.


Rob Church

On 09/12/05, Rob Das <info at lproj.com> wrote:
> Hi there, I managed to set up a wiki, but somehow the Sysop didn't
> make it in the user list, it is completely empty. Does anyone know
> how this is possible, or is it common behavior? Should I enter it
> through the MySql database? I did however fill in the name and
> password while installing...
>
> Thanks, Rob
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au  Sun Dec 11 06:11:11 2005
From: ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au (Laurie Lewis)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 17:11:11 +1100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512072340k2cc04423g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001c5fe19$afd6bad0$661aa8c0@airedale>

Ok,

Still having some problems with this so an outline of what I have done
and what I am getting.

1.  Created directory /wiki
2.	Created Sub directory /wiki/files and put all MediaWiki files
into this directory
3.	Created dir /wiki/en and /wiki/es  and /wiki/da
4.	Made symbolic links of ALL directories (excluding config) to
/wiki/files
5.	Made symbolic links to all other files in /wiki/files
6.	pointed browser at http://domain/wiki/en
7.	configured for English and moved Localsettings and worked fine
8.	Did same for Spanish and Danish

Tried to go to English site and just get Danish language all the time
and same with Spanish.

System is also using eaccelerator and each wiki configured to take
advantage of it.

All wiki's using the same database but have language extensions added
en_ da_ es_.

It is my intention to create a CommonSettings.php file and put an
include into the LocalSettings.php file.  In the CommonSettings.php file
I will probably move nearly everything from LocalSetting except language
settings and IP variable.  Will also add the following;-

I am going to add the following line to each
########Added by me to see if multi languages work
$wgInterwikiMagic = true;

OK first - can anyone tell me why the wiki's are all using the same
language - obviously a symbolic link is not appropriate for a file or
directory - any ideas.

Second - Have a missed anything else to configure a Multilanguage wiki -
All the wikis are dealing with the same topic.

Thanks

Laurie

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 6:40 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages

You can add multiple wikis to the same database using the $wgDBprefix
directive in LocalSettings.php. For instance, you might have the
following snippets:

$wgSitename = "English Wiki";
$wgDBprefix = "en_"

and

$wgSitename = "French Wiki";
$wgDBprefix = "fr_"

You'd put one in the LocalSettings.php for English, for example, and
one in the French. They would use the same database, but different
tables. Sharing users and other items wouldn't be possible with that
method, however - although you could read on Meta
(http://meta.wikimedia.org) and http://www.mediawiki.org for
information on the _experimental_ shared database feature.

You're right about having subdirectories; each wiki would need it's
own LocalSettings.php file. You could, with a little bit of work,
place common software files in a directory above each language, then
include a lot of files at the start, however that's a bit extra work.


Rob Church

On 08/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> I have seen how to do sub-pages with the language code either at the
> front/middle or back, but this will not allow the sidebar to change as
> the languages change - at least I have not been able to figure out how
> to do this.
>
> The second option you talk of is multiple wiki's.  Not sure how to do
> this on the one domain but this is my best guess - pointing in the
right
> direction would be good.
>
> 1.      Create a subdirectory off the main wiki page for each language
> et /fr
> 2.      Copy LocalSettings.php to that directory and change the
> following:-
>         $wgLanguageCode = "en";
>
>         Not sure here what else might need to be changed.
>
> In this way every language will use the same database have the same
user
> base etc.  It will also mean that if you create a page that exists in
> another language that it will show as existing and not as a new page.
>
> Heck,  Can anyone step me through it?  Not confident after thinking
> about it a bit more.
>
> laurie
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
> Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 7:11 AM
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
>
> To have multiple pages of the same content in different languages,
> either separate wikis are required, or you could do something with
> subpages, e.g. http://www.foo.com/wiki/Page/en, /wiki/Page/fr, etc...
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 07/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> > Ok,
> >
> > Perhaps I need to provide a bit more information on where I am up
to.
> >
> > Using Mediawiki 1.5.3.  I have setup 1 mysql database with no
> extensions
> > being used.
> >
> > I am at this time trying to determine how best to set up a
> > multi-language wiki.  I have been able to go into the interwiki
> database
> > and add the language codes for the additional languages.  Eg.
> > nl http://nl.wiki.phpgedview.net/index.php?title=$1 1
> >
> > Not quite sure what the 0 or 1 means in the iw_local field.
> >
> > I have figured out that I need to include $wgInterwikiMagic = true;
> into
> > my LocalSettings.php if I want the language codes to come up as
> > XX.website.com/index...  I have also seen that you can put the
> language
> > code either before or after the $1 variable in the interwiki
database
> to
> > change where the language code comes up.
> >
> > What I imagined would happen is that when you selected a different
> > language that you would be able to edit the sidebar for each one
> somehow
> > like I do for the default language (MediaWiki:Sidebar).  I have also
> > read somewhere that you need multiple databases for running multiple
> > languages.  This site is basically designed to be one document
> > replicated into a number of languages.
> >
> > Sorry but I am VERY new to all this and can not find an easy step
> > through anywhere let alone a hard one.
> >
> > I could also not find the work sidebar at all in Languagesxx.php
file.
> >
> > Laurie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> > [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
> > Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 1:11 AM
> > To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> > Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
> >
> > What you should be able to do is edit the appropriate LanguageXX.php
> > file, find the entry for 'sidebar', and edit that as appropriate.
When
> > a user selects a language other than the default, you should find
the
> > interface loads from that language file, and the sidebar should
> > hopefully update.
> >
> >
> > Rob Church
> >
> > On 07/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> > > I am very new to wiki's and I am trying to set up a multiple
> language
> > > one.  I can not get the sidebar to change to the appropriate
> languages
> > > etc when you select them.
> > >
> > > Can anyone help me with a simple set through of what I should do
> > please.
> > >
> > > Laurie
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> >
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From yellowikis at gmail.com  Sun Dec 11 10:07:25 2005
From: yellowikis at gmail.com (admin Yellowikis)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 10:07:25 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
In-Reply-To: <000001c5fe19$afd6bad0$661aa8c0@airedale>
References: <e92136380512072340k2cc04423g@mail.gmail.com>
	<000001c5fe19$afd6bad0$661aa8c0@airedale>
Message-ID: <40b4c2310512110207t664d29a2h1efeb4d350009a5c@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Laurie,

We have tried to do something similar on Yellowikis - but haven't ever
found a good solution.

At the moment our users have to log-on and change the language
displayed in the User Interface in their preferences.

It might be possible to run a wiki in each language and use the XML
from the Atom feed to allow changes to flow though the system - but it
doesn't seem a particularly efficient way to do this (particularly as
the database grows) and is outside my (limited) technical competence.

There was an experimental system at WikiPage.de run by User:Gangleri
that allowed non-logged in users to select from a list of different UI
languages - but it doesn't seem to be working anymore.

Best wishes

Paul
--
Yellowikis is to Yellow Pages, as Wikipedia is to The Encyclopedia Britannica


On 12/11/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> Ok,
>
> Still having some problems with this so an outline of what I have done
> and what I am getting.
>
> 1.  Created directory /wiki
> 2.      Created Sub directory /wiki/files and put all MediaWiki files
> into this directory
> 3.      Created dir /wiki/en and /wiki/es  and /wiki/da
> 4.      Made symbolic links of ALL directories (excluding config) to
> /wiki/files
> 5.      Made symbolic links to all other files in /wiki/files
> 6.      pointed browser at http://domain/wiki/en
> 7.      configured for English and moved Localsettings and worked fine
> 8.      Did same for Spanish and Danish
>
> Tried to go to English site and just get Danish language all the time
> and same with Spanish.
>
> System is also using eaccelerator and each wiki configured to take
> advantage of it.
>
> All wiki's using the same database but have language extensions added
> en_ da_ es_.
>
> It is my intention to create a CommonSettings.php file and put an
> include into the LocalSettings.php file.  In the CommonSettings.php file
> I will probably move nearly everything from LocalSetting except language
> settings and IP variable.  Will also add the following;-
>
> I am going to add the following line to each
> ########Added by me to see if multi languages work
> $wgInterwikiMagic = true;
>
> OK first - can anyone tell me why the wiki's are all using the same
> language - obviously a symbolic link is not appropriate for a file or
> directory - any ideas.
>
> Second - Have a missed anything else to configure a Multilanguage wiki -
> All the wikis are dealing with the same topic.
>
> Thanks
>
> Laurie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
> Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 6:40 PM
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
>
> You can add multiple wikis to the same database using the $wgDBprefix
> directive in LocalSettings.php. For instance, you might have the
> following snippets:
>
> $wgSitename = "English Wiki";
> $wgDBprefix = "en_"
>
> and
>
> $wgSitename = "French Wiki";
> $wgDBprefix = "fr_"
>
> You'd put one in the LocalSettings.php for English, for example, and
> one in the French. They would use the same database, but different
> tables. Sharing users and other items wouldn't be possible with that
> method, however - although you could read on Meta
> (http://meta.wikimedia.org) and http://www.mediawiki.org for
> information on the _experimental_ shared database feature.
>
> You're right about having subdirectories; each wiki would need it's
> own LocalSettings.php file. You could, with a little bit of work,
> place common software files in a directory above each language, then
> include a lot of files at the start, however that's a bit extra work.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 08/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> > I have seen how to do sub-pages with the language code either at the
> > front/middle or back, but this will not allow the sidebar to change as
> > the languages change - at least I have not been able to figure out how
> > to do this.
> >
> > The second option you talk of is multiple wiki's.  Not sure how to do
> > this on the one domain but this is my best guess - pointing in the
> right
> > direction would be good.
> >
> > 1.      Create a subdirectory off the main wiki page for each language
> > et /fr
> > 2.      Copy LocalSettings.php to that directory and change the
> > following:-
> >         $wgLanguageCode = "en";
> >
> >         Not sure here what else might need to be changed.
> >
> > In this way every language will use the same database have the same
> user
> > base etc.  It will also mean that if you create a page that exists in
> > another language that it will show as existing and not as a new page.
> >
> > Heck,  Can anyone step me through it?  Not confident after thinking
> > about it a bit more.
> >
> > laurie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> > [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
> > Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 7:11 AM
> > To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> > Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
> >
> > To have multiple pages of the same content in different languages,
> > either separate wikis are required, or you could do something with
> > subpages, e.g. http://www.foo.com/wiki/Page/en, /wiki/Page/fr, etc...
> >
> >
> > Rob Church
> >
> > On 07/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> > > Ok,
> > >
> > > Perhaps I need to provide a bit more information on where I am up
> to.
> > >
> > > Using Mediawiki 1.5.3.  I have setup 1 mysql database with no
> > extensions
> > > being used.
> > >
> > > I am at this time trying to determine how best to set up a
> > > multi-language wiki.  I have been able to go into the interwiki
> > database
> > > and add the language codes for the additional languages.  Eg.
> > > nl http://nl.wiki.phpgedview.net/index.php?title=$1 1
> > >
> > > Not quite sure what the 0 or 1 means in the iw_local field.
> > >
> > > I have figured out that I need to include $wgInterwikiMagic = true;
> > into
> > > my LocalSettings.php if I want the language codes to come up as
> > > XX.website.com/index...  I have also seen that you can put the
> > language
> > > code either before or after the $1 variable in the interwiki
> database
> > to
> > > change where the language code comes up.
> > >
> > > What I imagined would happen is that when you selected a different
> > > language that you would be able to edit the sidebar for each one
> > somehow
> > > like I do for the default language (MediaWiki:Sidebar).  I have also
> > > read somewhere that you need multiple databases for running multiple
> > > languages.  This site is basically designed to be one document
> > > replicated into a number of languages.
> > >
> > > Sorry but I am VERY new to all this and can not find an easy step
> > > through anywhere let alone a hard one.
> > >
> > > I could also not find the work sidebar at all in Languagesxx.php
> file.
> > >
> > > Laurie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> > > [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
> > > Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 1:11 AM
> > > To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> > > Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
> > >
> > > What you should be able to do is edit the appropriate LanguageXX.php
> > > file, find the entry for 'sidebar', and edit that as appropriate.
> When
> > > a user selects a language other than the default, you should find
> the
> > > interface loads from that language file, and the sidebar should
> > > hopefully update.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rob Church
> > >
> > > On 07/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> > > > I am very new to wiki's and I am trying to set up a multiple
> > language
> > > > one.  I can not get the sidebar to change to the appropriate
> > languages
> > > > etc when you select them.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone help me with a simple set through of what I should do
> > > please.
> > > >
> > > > Laurie
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > >
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From johannes.feigl at aon.at  Sun Dec 11 11:59:45 2005
From: johannes.feigl at aon.at (Johannes Feigl)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 12:59:45 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] writing a bot ... directest access to articles
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hi,

yes i know, i've also already downloaded it, but i cannot find informations 
about HOW i works ;(

mfg johannes

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Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] writing a bot ... directest access to articles


Hi *Johannes Feigl,
*You might want to take a look at the phpwikibot project on SourceForget.
[1]

Best regards,
[1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpwikibot
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From johannes.feigl at aon.at  Sun Dec 11 12:07:20 2005
From: johannes.feigl at aon.at (Johannes Feigl)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:07:20 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] writing a bot ... directest access to articles
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	<d2f92e8b0512101157s5d72f5e0xf0b4b6ac31104111@mail.gmail.com>
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>> yes i know, but i cannot speak python (yet) ;)
>> and i what to write the bot in php, i know php well...
>> does anyone know here how does pywikipediabot accesses to the
>> source code?
>
> There is no API, it's just as a browser would, through HTTP.

ok, thanks dori,
then i will also access to via normal http.
but the problem is, that there is a transfer of a lot of data, which are not 
necessary, i think of the when you open a site with the source-code, (e.g. 
http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Berkshire_Hathaway&action=edit ) 
you need only the source-text for the bot.
it's only the part in the textarea

i think it would be nice of you add to the index.php also the action 
"source".
like: "index.php?title=Wikipedia&action=edit", and you only get the 
sourcecode of the article "Wikipedia"

what do you think about?

mfg johannes 



From johannes.feigl at aon.at  Sun Dec 11 12:30:27 2005
From: johannes.feigl at aon.at (Johannes Feigl)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 13:30:27 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] writing a bot ... directest access to articles
Message-ID: <002601c5fe4e$aaed4db0$6400a8c0@notebook>

> ok, thanks dori,
> then i will also access to via normal http.
> but the problem is, that there is a transfer of a lot of data, which are 
> not necessary, i think of the when you open a site with the source-code, 
> (e.g. 
> http://de.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Berkshire_Hathaway&action=edit ) 
> you need only the source-text for the bot.
> it's only the part in the textarea
>
> i think it would be nice of you add to the index.php also the action 
> "source".
> like: "index.php?title=Wikipedia&action=edit", and you only get the 
> sourcecode of the article "Wikipedia"

sorry, i thought about "index.php?title=Wikipedia&action=source"
it could also include the hidden input arguments you get when using
"edit", could look like something like that when opening that page:

:wpSection
20051211120204:wpStarttime
20051210103959:wpEdittime
:wpScrolltop
SOURCE

the same for the action "submit".
we could also make an action called "botsubmit" which only tells an error 
code

something like
0 = ok
1 = timestamp error
2 = site is locked

i think can also write a patch for the CVS-version of mediawiki if you think 
this would be nice! i think this would be very easy and could improve the 
speed for bots
and decrease the load of the servers!

what do you think about?

mfg johannes 



From ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au  Sun Dec 11 13:18:52 2005
From: ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au (Laurie Lewis)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:18:52 +1100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
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Message-ID: <000001c5fe55$6ed8e2b0$661aa8c0@airedale>


This is what I have done so far - it has changed a bit from my previous
posts.  Just a reminder - I am trying to start a single topic wiki with
a number of languages

1..Created a directory called files and placed all Mediawiki files into
it.
2..Created a directory /en and created symbolic links to all Mediawiki
files and directories in /files directory
3...Ran install process and moved LocalSettings.php to /en dir
3a...During install created a database called it sitename_en
3b...Please note that I shifted from one database with prefixes to
multiple databases named similarly.  The databases with the prefixes did
not work properly.

4..Did the same process for da / es  / fr

I then went into the interwiki table for each database and added a line
equivalent to:-
 
en  htpp://domain.name/en/index.php?title=$1  0  0

for each of the languages in every language installed.

Each of the language sites seems to be working as they are supposed to
with the sidebar showing the appropriate languages etc.

I then began to make links from main pages in one language site to the
others.  The problem I am now being faced with is that I am not getting
consistent language links coming up.  Sometimes they work other times
they don't.

Any ideas why this might be happening.

Any other tips before I start playing with common settings.

Laurie


-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of admin Yellowikis
Sent: Sunday, 11 December 2005 9:07 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages

Hi Laurie,

We have tried to do something similar on Yellowikis - but haven't ever
found a good solution.

At the moment our users have to log-on and change the language
displayed in the User Interface in their preferences.

It might be possible to run a wiki in each language and use the XML
from the Atom feed to allow changes to flow though the system - but it
doesn't seem a particularly efficient way to do this (particularly as
the database grows) and is outside my (limited) technical competence.

There was an experimental system at WikiPage.de run by User:Gangleri
that allowed non-logged in users to select from a list of different UI
languages - but it doesn't seem to be working anymore.

Best wishes

Paul
--
Yellowikis is to Yellow Pages, as Wikipedia is to The Encyclopedia
Britannica


On 12/11/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> Ok,
>
> Still having some problems with this so an outline of what I have done
> and what I am getting.
>
> 1.  Created directory /wiki
> 2.      Created Sub directory /wiki/files and put all MediaWiki files
> into this directory
> 3.      Created dir /wiki/en and /wiki/es  and /wiki/da
> 4.      Made symbolic links of ALL directories (excluding config) to
> /wiki/files
> 5.      Made symbolic links to all other files in /wiki/files
> 6.      pointed browser at http://domain/wiki/en
> 7.      configured for English and moved Localsettings and worked fine
> 8.      Did same for Spanish and Danish
>
> Tried to go to English site and just get Danish language all the time
> and same with Spanish.
>
> System is also using eaccelerator and each wiki configured to take
> advantage of it.
>
> All wiki's using the same database but have language extensions added
> en_ da_ es_.
>
> It is my intention to create a CommonSettings.php file and put an
> include into the LocalSettings.php file.  In the CommonSettings.php
file
> I will probably move nearly everything from LocalSetting except
language
> settings and IP variable.  Will also add the following;-
>
> I am going to add the following line to each
> ########Added by me to see if multi languages work
> $wgInterwikiMagic = true;
>
> OK first - can anyone tell me why the wiki's are all using the same
> language - obviously a symbolic link is not appropriate for a file or
> directory - any ideas.
>
> Second - Have a missed anything else to configure a Multilanguage wiki
-
> All the wikis are dealing with the same topic.
>
> Thanks
>
> Laurie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
> Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 6:40 PM
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
>
> You can add multiple wikis to the same database using the $wgDBprefix
> directive in LocalSettings.php. For instance, you might have the
> following snippets:
>
> $wgSitename = "English Wiki";
> $wgDBprefix = "en_"
>
> and
>
> $wgSitename = "French Wiki";
> $wgDBprefix = "fr_"
>
> You'd put one in the LocalSettings.php for English, for example, and
> one in the French. They would use the same database, but different
> tables. Sharing users and other items wouldn't be possible with that
> method, however - although you could read on Meta
> (http://meta.wikimedia.org) and http://www.mediawiki.org for
> information on the _experimental_ shared database feature.
>
> You're right about having subdirectories; each wiki would need it's
> own LocalSettings.php file. You could, with a little bit of work,
> place common software files in a directory above each language, then
> include a lot of files at the start, however that's a bit extra work.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 08/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> > I have seen how to do sub-pages with the language code either at the
> > front/middle or back, but this will not allow the sidebar to change
as
> > the languages change - at least I have not been able to figure out
how
> > to do this.
> >
> > The second option you talk of is multiple wiki's.  Not sure how to
do
> > this on the one domain but this is my best guess - pointing in the
> right
> > direction would be good.
> >
> > 1.      Create a subdirectory off the main wiki page for each
language
> > et /fr
> > 2.      Copy LocalSettings.php to that directory and change the
> > following:-
> >         $wgLanguageCode = "en";
> >
> >         Not sure here what else might need to be changed.
> >
> > In this way every language will use the same database have the same
> user
> > base etc.  It will also mean that if you create a page that exists
in
> > another language that it will show as existing and not as a new
page.
> >
> > Heck,  Can anyone step me through it?  Not confident after thinking
> > about it a bit more.
> >
> > laurie
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> > [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
> > Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 7:11 AM
> > To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> > Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
> >
> > To have multiple pages of the same content in different languages,
> > either separate wikis are required, or you could do something with
> > subpages, e.g. http://www.foo.com/wiki/Page/en, /wiki/Page/fr,
etc...
> >
> >
> > Rob Church
> >
> > On 07/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> > > Ok,
> > >
> > > Perhaps I need to provide a bit more information on where I am up
> to.
> > >
> > > Using Mediawiki 1.5.3.  I have setup 1 mysql database with no
> > extensions
> > > being used.
> > >
> > > I am at this time trying to determine how best to set up a
> > > multi-language wiki.  I have been able to go into the interwiki
> > database
> > > and add the language codes for the additional languages.  Eg.
> > > nl http://nl.wiki.phpgedview.net/index.php?title=$1 1
> > >
> > > Not quite sure what the 0 or 1 means in the iw_local field.
> > >
> > > I have figured out that I need to include $wgInterwikiMagic =
true;
> > into
> > > my LocalSettings.php if I want the language codes to come up as
> > > XX.website.com/index...  I have also seen that you can put the
> > language
> > > code either before or after the $1 variable in the interwiki
> database
> > to
> > > change where the language code comes up.
> > >
> > > What I imagined would happen is that when you selected a different
> > > language that you would be able to edit the sidebar for each one
> > somehow
> > > like I do for the default language (MediaWiki:Sidebar).  I have
also
> > > read somewhere that you need multiple databases for running
multiple
> > > languages.  This site is basically designed to be one document
> > > replicated into a number of languages.
> > >
> > > Sorry but I am VERY new to all this and can not find an easy step
> > > through anywhere let alone a hard one.
> > >
> > > I could also not find the work sidebar at all in Languagesxx.php
> file.
> > >
> > > Laurie
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> > > [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
> > > Sent: Thursday, 8 December 2005 1:11 AM
> > > To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> > > Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Multiple languages
> > >
> > > What you should be able to do is edit the appropriate
LanguageXX.php
> > > file, find the entry for 'sidebar', and edit that as appropriate.
> When
> > > a user selects a language other than the default, you should find
> the
> > > interface loads from that language file, and the sidebar should
> > > hopefully update.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rob Church
> > >
> > > On 07/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> > > > I am very new to wiki's and I am trying to set up a multiple
> > language
> > > > one.  I can not get the sidebar to change to the appropriate
> > languages
> > > > etc when you select them.
> > > >
> > > > Can anyone help me with a simple set through of what I should do
> > > please.
> > > >
> > > > Laurie
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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From tomk32 at gmx.de  Sun Dec 11 14:13:11 2005
From: tomk32 at gmx.de (Thomas R. Koll)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 15:13:11 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] writing a bot ... directest access to articles
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Am 11.12.2005 um 12:59 schrieb Johannes Feigl:
> yes i know, i've also already downloaded it, but i cannot find  
> informations about HOW i works ;(

You took the CVS version? There's a CONTENTS file which explains the  
single files, just look into a few simple scripts to find out how to  
write your own script.

ciao, tom

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From robchur at gmail.com  Sun Dec 11 14:58:27 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 14:58:27 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] writing a bot ... directest access to articles
In-Reply-To: <000401c5fe4a$615b3710$6400a8c0@notebook>
References: <000f01c5fdbc$fe8eaf50$6400a8c0@notebook>
	<416F59A3-896F-4EAE-A414-701DFB17B3F2@gmx.de>
	<002901c5fdc2$0358ef50$6400a8c0@notebook>
	<d2f92e8b0512101157s5d72f5e0xf0b4b6ac31104111@mail.gmail.com>
	<71fb0a8e0512101239qc0a9bafr13e725d2d58fe4ba@mail.gmail.com>
	<000401c5fe4a$615b3710$6400a8c0@notebook>
Message-ID: <e92136380512110658m33fcf221s@mail.gmail.com>

The documentation is rather poor, but the headers of each script file
contain comments which might be useful - that's how I learned to use
some of them, anyway.


Rob Church

On 11/12/05, Johannes Feigl <johannes.feigl at aon.at> wrote:
> hi,
>
> yes i know, i've also already downloaded it, but i cannot find informations
> about HOW i works ;(
>
> mfg johannes
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "S?rgio Ribeiro" <sr.ribeiro at gmail.com>
> To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list"
> <mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2005 9:39 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] writing a bot ... directest access to articles
>
>
> Hi *Johannes Feigl,
> *You might want to take a look at the phpwikibot project on SourceForget.
> [1]
>
> Best regards,
> [1] http://sourceforge.net/projects/phpwikibot
> --
> Edit this page @ http://pt.wikipedia.org
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From peter.hollosi at tek.hu  Sun Dec 11 22:43:16 2005
From: peter.hollosi at tek.hu (=?iso-8859-2?Q?Holl=F3si_P=E9ter?=)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:43:16 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past config
Message-ID: <0BB3FC9A4FD2BB47BE2291FC097BB3C702D802@messias.tek.hu>

Hi,
 
I have installed MediaWiki 1.5.2, and run the configuration script. It said it could not write the file LocalSettings.php, and printed the file itself. I have pasted the text into LocalSettings.php, as suggested. Then moved it from the config folder into the wiki root folder. And now I have no idea, what's next? If I go to that server in my browser, the URL's transformed into http://server/index.php/Main_Page, and I get the HTTP 404 page. How can I create the very first page? What should be its name and where should I place it? Or is there some configuration step missing?
 
Can you give me some help?
 
Thanks a lot,
 
Peter


From wikiwis at gmail.com  Sun Dec 11 22:49:03 2005
From: wikiwis at gmail.com (wikiWIS)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 19:49:03 -0300
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] be part of wikimedia
Message-ID: <1547174283.20051211194903@gmail.com>

Hi

Can my wiki be part of wikimedia project ?
Like for example wikipedia

-- 
Saludos,
Cris



From robchur at gmail.com  Sun Dec 11 23:09:03 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:09:03 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] be part of wikimedia
In-Reply-To: <1547174283.20051211194903@gmail.com>
References: <1547174283.20051211194903@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512111509q7ebac786g@mail.gmail.com>

You're mailing the wrong list for that. wikimedia-l at wikimedia.org, or
one of the other Wikimedia-specific lists should help with enquiries
of this nature. Consider also the #wikimedia IRC channel on Freenode
(irc://irc.freenode.net).


Rob Church

On 11/12/05, wikiWIS <wikiwis at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Can my wiki be part of wikimedia project ?
> Like for example wikipedia
>
> --
> Saludos,
> Cris
>
> _______________________________________________
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> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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From robchur at gmail.com  Sun Dec 11 23:11:17 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 23:11:17 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past config
In-Reply-To: <0BB3FC9A4FD2BB47BE2291FC097BB3C702D802@messias.tek.hu>
References: <0BB3FC9A4FD2BB47BE2291FC097BB3C702D802@messias.tek.hu>
Message-ID: <e92136380512111511m616a3d9eu@mail.gmail.com>

Let's just confirm a couple of things first. I'll assume that /wiki
corresponds to the directory in which you placed MediaWiki.

1. There is a /wiki/LocalSettings.php file and it's readable (by the
web server process)
2. All required files (from the distribution tarball) are present;
index.php in particular

Also, please tell us what web server you're running; and what versions
of PHP and mySQL.


Rob Church

On 11/12/05, Holl?si P?ter <peter.hollosi at tek.hu> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have installed MediaWiki 1.5.2, and run the configuration script. It said it could not write the file LocalSettings.php, and printed the file itself. I have pasted the text into LocalSettings.php, as suggested. Then moved it from the config folder into the wiki root folder. And now I have no idea, what's next? If I go to that server in my browser, the URL's transformed into http://server/index.php/Main_Page, and I get the HTTP 404 page. How can I create the very first page? What should be its name and where should I place it? Or is there some configuration step missing?
>
> Can you give me some help?
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Peter
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From BenA at datacom.co.nz  Sun Dec 11 23:42:52 2005
From: BenA at datacom.co.nz (Ben Arnold (DSLWN))
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:42:52 +1300
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Time zone name
Message-ID: <46562C5EECFA8C47AADDF029EE11D73D015961E1@dnzwgex1.datacom.co.nz>

On my installation the timezone in the ~~~~ signature is displayed as
"(New Zealand Daylight Time)". This is pretty cumbersome. I'd prefer it
display "(NZDT)" or no timezone at all. I've tried Googling mediawiki
time zone but all the hits are around setting the offset, not the name.
I've also tried searching the MediaWiki installation for a configuration
file with timezone names in it, but no luck.

I'm using MediaWiki 1.5.1, PHP 4.3.8, MySQL 4.0.20a-debug on Windows XP
Professional.

In my LocalSettings.php, I have the following setting:

$wgLocalTZoffset = 13;

I guess there must be a mapping somewhere from 13 to "New Zealand
Daylight Time", although I don't know how it knows I'm not using Tonga
Standard Time. Maybe the O/S supplies the timezone names. Any ideas?


Ben



From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 00:25:20 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 00:25:20 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Time zone name
In-Reply-To: <46562C5EECFA8C47AADDF029EE11D73D015961E1@dnzwgex1.datacom.co.nz>
References: <46562C5EECFA8C47AADDF029EE11D73D015961E1@dnzwgex1.datacom.co.nz>
Message-ID: <e92136380512111625w536d0876w@mail.gmail.com>

If it isn't a system message, chances are the OS *does* supply it.
Check Special:Allmessages and see.


Rob Church

On 11/12/05, Ben Arnold (DSLWN) <BenA at datacom.co.nz> wrote:
> On my installation the timezone in the ~~~~ signature is displayed as
> "(New Zealand Daylight Time)". This is pretty cumbersome. I'd prefer it
> display "(NZDT)" or no timezone at all. I've tried Googling mediawiki
> time zone but all the hits are around setting the offset, not the name.
> I've also tried searching the MediaWiki installation for a configuration
> file with timezone names in it, but no luck.
>
> I'm using MediaWiki 1.5.1, PHP 4.3.8, MySQL 4.0.20a-debug on Windows XP
> Professional.
>
> In my LocalSettings.php, I have the following setting:
>
> $wgLocalTZoffset = 13;
>
> I guess there must be a mapping somewhere from 13 to "New Zealand
> Daylight Time", although I don't know how it knows I'm not using Tonga
> Standard Time. Maybe the O/S supplies the timezone names. Any ideas?
>
>
> Ben
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From BenA at datacom.co.nz  Mon Dec 12 01:11:21 2005
From: BenA at datacom.co.nz (Ben Arnold (DSLWN))
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:11:21 +1300
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Time zone name
Message-ID: <46562C5EECFA8C47AADDF029EE11D73D015961E2@dnzwgex1.datacom.co.nz>

Okay I've got an answer. Yes, it is an O/S setting. If you change the
timezone using the Windows control panel it changes the timezone that is
displayed by the wiki. This makes sense.

The name that Windows uses for the timezone is a registry setting. I
can't tell you exactly which registry setting because I did a blanket
search-and-replace to try to get it working, but there were only about 3
or 4 matches.

The change to the registry setting doesn't take effect unless you change
the timezone in the control panel and change it back again. (It might
also take effect if you restart the computer, I didn't try that.)

So there're two steps: search and replace the offending time zone name
in the registry and cycle the time zone in the control panel. After
that, like magic, the name reported by the wiki changes.

I'm sure it's much easier on Unix!


Ben

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
Sent: Monday, 12 December 2005 1:25 p.m.
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Time zone name

If it isn't a system message, chances are the OS *does* supply it.
Check Special:Allmessages and see.


Rob Church

On 11/12/05, Ben Arnold (DSLWN) <BenA at datacom.co.nz> wrote:
> On my installation the timezone in the ~~~~ signature is displayed as 
> "(New Zealand Daylight Time)". This is pretty cumbersome. I'd prefer 
> it display "(NZDT)" or no timezone at all. I've tried Googling 
> mediawiki time zone but all the hits are around setting the offset,
not the name.
> I've also tried searching the MediaWiki installation for a 
> configuration file with timezone names in it, but no luck.
>
> I'm using MediaWiki 1.5.1, PHP 4.3.8, MySQL 4.0.20a-debug on Windows 
> XP Professional.
>
> In my LocalSettings.php, I have the following setting:
>
> $wgLocalTZoffset = 13;
>
> I guess there must be a mapping somewhere from 13 to "New Zealand 
> Daylight Time", although I don't know how it knows I'm not using Tonga

> Standard Time. Maybe the O/S supplies the timezone names. Any ideas?
>
>
> Ben
>
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> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
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From sterlingda at pureenergysystems.com  Mon Dec 12 04:13:28 2005
From: sterlingda at pureenergysystems.com (Sterling D. Allan)
Date: Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:13:28 -0700
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] boards2go spam attack
Message-ID: <013a01c5fed2$67e89450$880fa8c0@sterlings>

PESWiki.com has been hit with an automated spam attack that circumvents
1) requirement that edits be done only by logged-in users
2) spamblock script that was installed.

It seems to target non-populated pages, such as talk pages and category pages and not-yet-built page links, and posts spam links from them.

It logs in as one user, then after a few hours, logs in as another user, and hits the same pages again.

So far today, I've been hit by three users.

It is not a mission critical attack inasmuch as the pages it is hitting are not high traffic pages, and it doesn't remove content, it only appends its spam links at the end.

Any ideas?

Sterling

From dominik.smatana+mediawiki at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 07:55:22 2005
From: dominik.smatana+mediawiki at gmail.com (Dominik Smatana)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:55:22 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How to restrict possibility to create new user?
Message-ID: <dcf07a730512112355t66613d03jc9a3f2ac18569638@mail.gmail.com>

Hello, i am MW newbie.

I want to set my MW 1.5.3 like this:
- only sysop can create new users
- annonymous and users can just log-in, can not create new users

Is it possible? How can I set it up?

Thanks.
Dominik Smatana

PS: Sorry for my english.


From psimmons at iinet.net.au  Mon Dec 12 08:16:46 2005
From: psimmons at iinet.net.au (Paul Simmons)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:16:46 +0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How to restrict possibility to create new user?
In-Reply-To: <dcf07a730512112355t66613d03jc9a3f2ac18569638@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dcf07a730512112355t66613d03jc9a3f2ac18569638@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1134375406.439d31eeb38d4@mail.iinet.net.au>

Quoting Dominik Smatana <dominik.smatana+mediawiki at gmail.com>:

> Hello, i am MW newbie.
> 
> I want to set my MW 1.5.3 like this:
> - only sysop can create new users
> - annonymous and users can just log-in, can not create new users
> 
> Is it possible? How can I set it up?

Yes it is.  I would highly recommend lookingthrough the documentation on how to
set this up.


From yellowikis at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 09:44:32 2005
From: yellowikis at gmail.com (admin Yellowikis)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:44:32 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] boards2go spam attack
In-Reply-To: <013a01c5fed2$67e89450$880fa8c0@sterlings>
References: <013a01c5fed2$67e89450$880fa8c0@sterlings>
Message-ID: <40b4c2310512120144w82b69adncec72a569ac9fcbe@mail.gmail.com>

We've been attacked too - It also adds a long list of links to
http://buy-ativan.fil.ph lower on the page.

we had:

 $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";

in LocalSettings.php

but an extra space has been added after the ...overflow: auto....

so now we have both
 $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
 $wgSpamRegex="/overflow: auto/";

hope that helps

Paul


On 12/12/05, Sterling D. Allan <sterlingda at pureenergysystems.com> wrote:
> PESWiki.com has been hit with an automated spam attack that circumvents
> 1) requirement that edits be done only by logged-in users
> 2) spamblock script that was installed.
>
> It seems to target non-populated pages, such as talk pages and category pages and not-yet-built page links, and posts spam links from them.
>
> It logs in as one user, then after a few hours, logs in as another user, and hits the same pages again.
>
> So far today, I've been hit by three users.
>
> It is not a mission critical attack inasmuch as the pages it is hitting are not high traffic pages, and it doesn't remove content, it only appends its spam links at the end.
>
> Any ideas?
>
> Sterling
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


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From sakura.i8i at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 10:15:39 2005
From: sakura.i8i at gmail.com (kaluguran seven)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 20:45:39 +1030
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Save new articles and categories
Message-ID: <646e71840512120215j59b3ff36va4c32f076ca92039@mail.gmail.com>

Hello!
I need a rescue 911 in here. Here it comes..

Everytime  a new article is entered, I need to save the categories that the
user has entered(if there will ever be a category and it is not existing
yet). So what i did is i create a function named saveCategory, here is the
code

function saveCategory() {
$ot = Title::newFromText( $cat, NS_CATEGORY );
if ($ot->getArticleID()==0){
   $article = new Article( $ot );
   $article->insertNewArticle( 'sample text', '', false, false, false,
'');
}
}

I call this after
$this->mArticle->insertNewArticle( $this->textbox1, $this->summary,
                                                       $this->minoredit,
$this->watchthis, false, $isComment);
in the EditPage.php

The good news is, I can save the pages and even the category pages. The bad
news is, in the category page, I cannot see the link from the article that
it came from but i can see the text i put in. In the article page,
everything is shown even the categories i put. The link only shows in the
category page if i edit and save the article page again.

So my wild guess is that, I can save the article in the page table and
revision table except for linkpages. If this is correct, then why? What is
my fault in here? If you have other way to do this, i'l be willing to
listen. I just need this to work! Please  help :(

--jaro


From leongo at ebi.ac.uk  Mon Dec 12 12:34:34 2005
From: leongo at ebi.ac.uk (Leon Goldovsky)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:34:34 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] importing public databases into mediawiki
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512090845ka29b75bh@mail.gmail.com>
References: <bdeb3400512081556r5b02a920t@mail.gmail.com>	<9f02ca4c0512081658i1089edecg@mail.gmail.com>	<bdeb3400512090538x20d27a4ep@mail.gmail.com>	<43998BF1.2020304@ebi.ac.uk>	<9f02ca4c0512090759wcdd0093q@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512090845ka29b75bh@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <439D6E5A.6050303@ebi.ac.uk>

Thanks for the help!!

it works realy well.

Thanks
Leon

Rob Church wrote:
> rebuildAll? rebuildXX?
> 
> 
> Rob Church
> 
> On 09/12/05, Rowan Collins <rowan.collins at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>>On 09/12/05, Leon Goldovsky <leongo at ebi.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>You can search for the title in the search box but not for the text, is
>>>it possible to add the text to the search capabilities?
>>
>>Again, this needs the article to be "touched" in some way, probably by
>>making a null edit, and probably using a bot, as discussed above.
>>
>>The importDump.php and Special:Import really *ought* to have a way of
>>dealing with such things, but they don't - partly, I think, because
>>unless there's a way of *deferring* such touches, it could amount to a
>>pretty major chunk of processing (for, say, an entire DB dump).
>>
>>--
>>Rowan Collins BSc
>>[IMSoP]
>>_______________________________________________
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>>
> 
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 12:39:11 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:39:11 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] boards2go spam attack
In-Reply-To: <40b4c2310512120144w82b69adncec72a569ac9fcbe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <013a01c5fed2$67e89450$880fa8c0@sterlings>
	<40b4c2310512120144w82b69adncec72a569ac9fcbe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512120439p21837ce9x90214c3c44da1f8a@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/12/05, admin Yellowikis <yellowikis at gmail.com> wrote:
> We've been attacked too - It also adds a long list of links to
> http://buy-ativan.fil.ph lower on the page.
>
> we had:
>
>  $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
>
> in LocalSettings.php
>
> but an extra space has been added after the ...overflow: auto....
>
> so now we have both
>  $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
>  $wgSpamRegex="/overflow: auto/";

Of course since $wgSpamRegex is a scalar, only the second value will
be in effect, overwriting the first.

I think that something like
  $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:\s*auto/

would work. The \s* matches zero or more whitespace characters.  This
might be slightly off since I'm not completely up on php regex pattern
syntax.
--
Rick DeNatale

Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/


From yellowikis at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 12:50:00 2005
From: yellowikis at gmail.com (admin Yellowikis)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 12:50:00 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] boards2go spam attack
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0512120439p21837ce9x90214c3c44da1f8a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <013a01c5fed2$67e89450$880fa8c0@sterlings>
	<40b4c2310512120144w82b69adncec72a569ac9fcbe@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0512120439p21837ce9x90214c3c44da1f8a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <40b4c2310512120450r4512d3b1ge8807db9e840e1ac@mail.gmail.com>

Thanks Rick.

On 12/12/05, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/12/05, admin Yellowikis <yellowikis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > We've been attacked too - It also adds a long list of links to
> > http://buy-ativan.fil.ph lower on the page.
> >
> > we had:
> >
> >  $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
> >
> > in LocalSettings.php
> >
> > but an extra space has been added after the ...overflow: auto....
> >
> > so now we have both
> >  $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
> >  $wgSpamRegex="/overflow: auto/";
>
> Of course since $wgSpamRegex is a scalar, only the second value will
> be in effect, overwriting the first.
>
> I think that something like
>   $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:\s*auto/
>
> would work. The \s* matches zero or more whitespace characters.  This
> might be slightly off since I'm not completely up on php regex pattern
> syntax.
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
> http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


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From yellowikis at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 13:03:42 2005
From: yellowikis at gmail.com (admin Yellowikis)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:03:42 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] boards2go spam attack
In-Reply-To: <40b4c2310512120450r4512d3b1ge8807db9e840e1ac@mail.gmail.com>
References: <013a01c5fed2$67e89450$880fa8c0@sterlings>
	<40b4c2310512120144w82b69adncec72a569ac9fcbe@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0512120439p21837ce9x90214c3c44da1f8a@mail.gmail.com>
	<40b4c2310512120450r4512d3b1ge8807db9e840e1ac@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <40b4c2310512120503k5b34bba3h21cb50f67a861c8b@mail.gmail.com>

$wgSpamRegex="/overflow:\s*auto/";

Works fine.

Paul


On 12/12/05, admin Yellowikis <yellowikis at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Rick.
>
> On 12/12/05, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 12/12/05, admin Yellowikis <yellowikis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > We've been attacked too - It also adds a long list of links to
> > > http://buy-ativan.fil.ph lower on the page.
> > >
> > > we had:
> > >
> > >  $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
> > >
> > > in LocalSettings.php
> > >
> > > but an extra space has been added after the ...overflow: auto....
> > >
> > > so now we have both
> > >  $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
> > >  $wgSpamRegex="/overflow: auto/";
> >
> > Of course since $wgSpamRegex is a scalar, only the second value will
> > be in effect, overwriting the first.
> >
> > I think that something like
> >   $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:\s*auto/
> >
> > would work. The \s* matches zero or more whitespace characters.  This
> > might be slightly off since I'm not completely up on php regex pattern
> > syntax.
> > --
> > Rick DeNatale
> >
> > Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
> > http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
>
>
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>


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From peter.hollosi at tek.hu  Mon Dec 12 13:11:24 2005
From: peter.hollosi at tek.hu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Holl=F3si_P=E9ter?=)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:11:24 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past config
Message-ID: <0BB3FC9A4FD2BB47BE2291FC097BB3C702D803@messias.tek.hu>

1. the file is present and readable.
2. all the files from the tarball are there, index.php in MediaWiki root directory (in the same folder as LocalSettings.php - "/wiki" in your example).

And yes, I forgot about the environment :)

OS: Windows XP Professional SP2
Web server: IIS 5.1
PHP 5.1.1
MySQL 5.0.16
MediaWiki 1.5.2
Browsers: Internet Explorer 6.0, Mozilla Firefox 1.0.7 (the case is the same with both)

Thanks
Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Church [mailto:robchur at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:11 AM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past config


Let's just confirm a couple of things first. I'll assume that /wiki
corresponds to the directory in which you placed MediaWiki.

1. There is a /wiki/LocalSettings.php file and it's readable (by the
web server process)
2. All required files (from the distribution tarball) are present;
index.php in particular

Also, please tell us what web server you're running; and what versions
of PHP and mySQL.


Rob Church

On 11/12/05, Holl?si P?ter <peter.hollosi at tek.hu> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have installed MediaWiki 1.5.2, and run the configuration script. It said it could not write the file LocalSettings.php, and printed the file itself. I have pasted the text into LocalSettings.php, as suggested. Then moved it from the config folder into the wiki root folder. And now I have no idea, what's next? If I go to that server in my browser, the URL's transformed into http://server/index.php/Main_Page, and I get the HTTP 404 page. How can I create the very first page? What should be its name and where should I place it? Or is there some configuration step missing?
>
> Can you give me some help?
>
> Thanks a lot,
>
> Peter
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
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From jac at gpsman.com  Mon Dec 12 13:41:51 2005
From: jac at gpsman.com (GPSman)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 07:41:51 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Can't save (alt+s)
Message-ID: <000001c5ff21$cf250280$0200a8c0@BackPorch>

I?ve got an apparently successful installation of MediaWiki 1.5.3 at my site
(HYPERLINK "http://www.gpsman.com/wiki/"www.gpsman.com/wiki/). I can create
an account. I can upload an image. I can browse the links. I can edit a page
? almost. When I click the button to save or type (alt+s) it goes to a
preview page, complete with warning in red. If I embed a link in the
editing, I can follow the link from the preview page, but if I try to
back-track, the page wasn?t saved and isn?t there.

 

Any suggestions?

 

Thanks,

Tony

 

 

 


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From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 13:42:46 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:42:46 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past config
In-Reply-To: <0BB3FC9A4FD2BB47BE2291FC097BB3C702D803@messias.tek.hu>
References: <0BB3FC9A4FD2BB47BE2291FC097BB3C702D803@messias.tek.hu>
Message-ID: <e92136380512120542x142354di@mail.gmail.com>

Aha. IIS. Now, I've had a similar problem before. Open
LocalSettings.php and find the lines like:

# If using PHP as a CGI module, use the ugly URLs
$wgArticle = "$wgScriptPath/index.php/$1";
#$wgArticle = "$wgScriptPath/index.php?title=$1"

Comment the first line (the "pretty" URLs) and uncomment the second
("ugly URLs"). Something tells me this might sort the problem out.


Rob Church

On 12/12/05, Holl?si P?ter <peter.hollosi at tek.hu> wrote:
> 1. the file is present and readable.
> 2. all the files from the tarball are there, index.php in MediaWiki root directory (in the same folder as LocalSettings.php - "/wiki" in your example).
>
> And yes, I forgot about the environment :)
>
> OS: Windows XP Professional SP2
> Web server: IIS 5.1
> PHP 5.1.1
> MySQL 5.0.16
> MediaWiki 1.5.2
> Browsers: Internet Explorer 6.0, Mozilla Firefox 1.0.7 (the case is the same with both)
>
> Thanks
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Church [mailto:robchur at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:11 AM
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past config
>
>
> Let's just confirm a couple of things first. I'll assume that /wiki
> corresponds to the directory in which you placed MediaWiki.
>
> 1. There is a /wiki/LocalSettings.php file and it's readable (by the
> web server process)
> 2. All required files (from the distribution tarball) are present;
> index.php in particular
>
> Also, please tell us what web server you're running; and what versions
> of PHP and mySQL.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 11/12/05, Holl?si P?ter <peter.hollosi at tek.hu> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have installed MediaWiki 1.5.2, and run the configuration script. It said it could not write the file LocalSettings.php, and printed the file itself. I have pasted the text into LocalSettings.php, as suggested. Then moved it from the config folder into the wiki root folder. And now I have no idea, what's next? If I go to that server in my browser, the URL's transformed into http://server/index.php/Main_Page, and I get the HTTP 404 page. How can I create the very first page? What should be its name and where should I place it? Or is there some configuration step missing?
> >
> > Can you give me some help?
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> >
> > Peter
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From peter.hollosi at tek.hu  Mon Dec 12 14:05:48 2005
From: peter.hollosi at tek.hu (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Holl=F3si_P=E9ter?=)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 15:05:48 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past config
Message-ID: <0BB3FC9A4FD2BB47BE2291FC097BB3C702D804@messias.tek.hu>

Great, this is working fine!

Many thanks,
Peter

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Church [mailto:robchur at gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 2:43 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past config


Aha. IIS. Now, I've had a similar problem before. Open
LocalSettings.php and find the lines like:

# If using PHP as a CGI module, use the ugly URLs
$wgArticle = "$wgScriptPath/index.php/$1";
#$wgArticle = "$wgScriptPath/index.php?title=$1"

Comment the first line (the "pretty" URLs) and uncomment the second
("ugly URLs"). Something tells me this might sort the problem out.


Rob Church

On 12/12/05, Holl?si P?ter <peter.hollosi at tek.hu> wrote:
> 1. the file is present and readable.
> 2. all the files from the tarball are there, index.php in MediaWiki root directory (in the same folder as LocalSettings.php - "/wiki" in your example).
>
> And yes, I forgot about the environment :)
>
> OS: Windows XP Professional SP2
> Web server: IIS 5.1
> PHP 5.1.1
> MySQL 5.0.16
> MediaWiki 1.5.2
> Browsers: Internet Explorer 6.0, Mozilla Firefox 1.0.7 (the case is the same with both)
>
> Thanks
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Church [mailto:robchur at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:11 AM
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past config
>
>
> Let's just confirm a couple of things first. I'll assume that /wiki
> corresponds to the directory in which you placed MediaWiki.
>
> 1. There is a /wiki/LocalSettings.php file and it's readable (by the
> web server process)
> 2. All required files (from the distribution tarball) are present;
> index.php in particular
>
> Also, please tell us what web server you're running; and what versions
> of PHP and mySQL.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 11/12/05, Holl?si P?ter <peter.hollosi at tek.hu> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I have installed MediaWiki 1.5.2, and run the configuration script. It said it could not write the file LocalSettings.php, and printed the file itself. I have pasted the text into LocalSettings.php, as suggested. Then moved it from the config folder into the wiki root folder. And now I have no idea, what's next? If I go to that server in my browser, the URL's transformed into http://server/index.php/Main_Page, and I get the HTTP 404 page. How can I create the very first page? What should be its name and where should I place it? Or is there some configuration step missing?
> >
> > Can you give me some help?
> >
> > Thanks a lot,
> >
> > Peter
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
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From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 14:11:39 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:11:39 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past config
In-Reply-To: <0BB3FC9A4FD2BB47BE2291FC097BB3C702D804@messias.tek.hu>
References: <0BB3FC9A4FD2BB47BE2291FC097BB3C702D804@messias.tek.hu>
Message-ID: <e92136380512120611r67911933o@mail.gmail.com>

Excellent. That confirms a bug I need to file/a patch I need to write. ;-)


Rob Church

On 12/12/05, Holl?si P?ter <peter.hollosi at tek.hu> wrote:
> Great, this is working fine!
>
> Many thanks,
> Peter
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Church [mailto:robchur at gmail.com]
> Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 2:43 PM
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past config
>
>
> Aha. IIS. Now, I've had a similar problem before. Open
> LocalSettings.php and find the lines like:
>
> # If using PHP as a CGI module, use the ugly URLs
> $wgArticle = "$wgScriptPath/index.php/$1";
> #$wgArticle = "$wgScriptPath/index.php?title=$1"
>
> Comment the first line (the "pretty" URLs) and uncomment the second
> ("ugly URLs"). Something tells me this might sort the problem out.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 12/12/05, Holl?si P?ter <peter.hollosi at tek.hu> wrote:
> > 1. the file is present and readable.
> > 2. all the files from the tarball are there, index.php in MediaWiki root directory (in the same folder as LocalSettings.php - "/wiki" in your example).
> >
> > And yes, I forgot about the environment :)
> >
> > OS: Windows XP Professional SP2
> > Web server: IIS 5.1
> > PHP 5.1.1
> > MySQL 5.0.16
> > MediaWiki 1.5.2
> > Browsers: Internet Explorer 6.0, Mozilla Firefox 1.0.7 (the case is the same with both)
> >
> > Thanks
> > Peter
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Rob Church [mailto:robchur at gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, December 12, 2005 12:11 AM
> > To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> > Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Can't get past config
> >
> >
> > Let's just confirm a couple of things first. I'll assume that /wiki
> > corresponds to the directory in which you placed MediaWiki.
> >
> > 1. There is a /wiki/LocalSettings.php file and it's readable (by the
> > web server process)
> > 2. All required files (from the distribution tarball) are present;
> > index.php in particular
> >
> > Also, please tell us what web server you're running; and what versions
> > of PHP and mySQL.
> >
> >
> > Rob Church
> >
> > On 11/12/05, Holl?si P?ter <peter.hollosi at tek.hu> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I have installed MediaWiki 1.5.2, and run the configuration script. It said it could not write the file LocalSettings.php, and printed the file itself. I have pasted the text into LocalSettings.php, as suggested. Then moved it from the config folder into the wiki root folder. And now I have no idea, what's next? If I go to that server in my browser, the URL's transformed into http://server/index.php/Main_Page, and I get the HTTP 404 page. How can I create the very first page? What should be its name and where should I place it? Or is there some configuration step missing?
> > >
> > > Can you give me some help?
> > >
> > > Thanks a lot,
> > >
> > > Peter
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From judi_chen at yahoo.com  Mon Dec 12 14:25:03 2005
From: judi_chen at yahoo.com (judi chen)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 06:25:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki_PHPBB_Auth_v2.2 
Message-ID: <20051212142503.81236.qmail@web52301.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi All,
I am running mediawiki 1.5.3 on Fedora Core 4.  and I
am also running phpBB2 on the same box.

I installed  Auth_phpbb.php, which I found in the
extension download list of the
http://meta.wikimedia.org/ at this link,
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Auth_phpbb.php

This extension works well, when the username is in
regular character.  But when username are in Chinese, 
Name are not logging in and mediawiki is teling me
that the username is not in the database. Even those
username has been created in the phpBB registration
page and is OK to log into phpBB.

Can you take a look into this.
Thanks in advance.

jc


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From mailsgetlost at web.de  Mon Dec 12 15:19:57 2005
From: mailsgetlost at web.de (Martin Baumann)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:19:57 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] External Images with thumb
Message-ID: <2060797130@web.de>

Hi,

is there a way to use external image links with a thumb preview?

At the moment I copy the image files on my webspace by hand. In the wiki I enter just the URL to the file. So the image is shown correct. But I want to use small pictures as a preview and the user can click on these small images and get the full size image.

Because of huge safe mode problems - I am 3 weeks on it now :-( - I decided not to use image upload function managed by wiki itself. 

Thanks, Martin
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From tom.haws at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 15:37:57 2005
From: tom.haws at gmail.com (Thomas Haws)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:37:57 -0700
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Blocked user options
Message-ID: <8d9081620512120737g7e9da3f7m74fe02c89250c37c@mail.gmail.com>

I have noticed this issue at wikien-l, but really only just now grapped with
it.

When an ip is blocked, user gets the "blocked" message suggesting to ask an
admin for clemency.  This message seems flawed.  Which of the following
facts do I have wrong?

-blocked user can't get wiki help
-blocked user must have e-mail address to get e-mail help
-anon user can't set preferences including an e-mail address

-therefore blocked anon can't get wiki or e-mail help

Here is what needs to be fixed:

Standard blocked user message needs to be changed to say:

"If you are not logged in you will need to log in and have a verified e-mail
address.  If you don't have an account, you will need to create one and
verify your e-mail address.  Even from this blocked ip address, the system
will let you create an account and verify an e-mail address so you can
contact an administrator."

--
Tom Haws
1094 North Martingale Road
Gilbert, AZ  85234
Home Office and Fax: 480-807-8417
If you have LOVE, you are already in heaven.
If you have no LOVE, you are already living in hell.
--Kevin Williams


From tom.haws at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 15:40:21 2005
From: tom.haws at gmail.com (Thomas Haws)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 08:40:21 -0700
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Blocked user options
In-Reply-To: <8d9081620512120737g7e9da3f7m74fe02c89250c37c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8d9081620512120737g7e9da3f7m74fe02c89250c37c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d9081620512120740u6895d40areacc1468ed8fddec@mail.gmail.com>

Laurie,

Though I was blocked and couldn't edit, I was still a bureaucrat, and I
unblocked myself.  :-)  Thanks.

On 12/12/05, Thomas Haws <tom.haws at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have noticed this issue at wikien-l, but really only just now grapped
> with it.
>
> When an ip is blocked, user gets the "blocked" message suggesting to ask
> an admin for clemency.  This message seems flawed.  Which of the following
> facts do I have wrong?
>
> -blocked user can't get wiki help
> -blocked user must have e-mail address to get e-mail help
> -anon user can't set preferences including an e-mail address
>
> -therefore blocked anon can't get wiki or e-mail help
>
> Here is what needs to be fixed:
>
> Standard blocked user message needs to be changed to say:
>
> "If you are not logged in you will need to log in and have a verified
> e-mail address.  If you don't have an account, you will need to create one
> and verify your e-mail address.  Even from this blocked ip address, the
> system will let you create an account and verify an e-mail address so you
> can contact an administrator."
>
> --
> Tom Haws
> 1094 North Martingale Road
> Gilbert, AZ  85234
> Home Office and Fax: 480-807-8417
> If you have LOVE, you are already in heaven.
> If you have no LOVE, you are already living in hell.
> --Kevin Williams




--
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1094 North Martingale Road
Gilbert, AZ  85234
Home Office and Fax: 480-807-8417
If you have LOVE, you are already in heaven.
If you have no LOVE, you are already living in hell.
--Kevin Williams


From simon at castortech.com  Mon Dec 12 16:04:44 2005
From: simon at castortech.com (Simon Renshaw)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:04:44 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Files extensions
Message-ID: <D5F291ABFAB3454D85DB58B747B63982138E9C@castor-srvr1.castortech.com>

Hi,

If I want to allow any kind of files to be uploaded, I just need to add:

$wgVerifyMimeType = false;

To LocalSettings.php?

Thanks!


From T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de  Mon Dec 12 16:18:55 2005
From: T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de (Vasiliadis, Thomas)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:18:55 +0100
Subject: AW: [Mediawiki-l] Files extensions
Message-ID: <D44B7B2E5EDC0C44A023008CF062E4000F82C5@server.worms.schlemmerblock.de>

Hi, which Version of Wki we are talking about?

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Simon Renshaw
Gesendet: Montag, 12. Dezember 2005 17:15
An: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
Betreff: [Mediawiki-l] Files extensions

Hi,

If I want to allow any kind of files to be uploaded, I just need to add:

$wgVerifyMimeType = false;

To LocalSettings.php?

Thanks!
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From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 16:24:02 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:24:02 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Files extensions
In-Reply-To: <D5F291ABFAB3454D85DB58B747B63982138E9C@castor-srvr1.castortech.com>
References: <D5F291ABFAB3454D85DB58B747B63982138E9C@castor-srvr1.castortech.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512120824w704f1471v@mail.gmail.com>

$wgStrictFileExtensions = false in LocalSettings.php


Rob Church

On 12/12/05, Simon Renshaw <simon at castortech.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If I want to allow any kind of files to be uploaded, I just need to add:
>
> $wgVerifyMimeType = false;
>
> To LocalSettings.php?
>
> Thanks!
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From simon at castortech.com  Mon Dec 12 16:23:56 2005
From: simon at castortech.com (Simon Renshaw)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:23:56 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Files extensions
Message-ID: <D5F291ABFAB3454D85DB58B747B63982138E9D@castor-srvr1.castortech.com>

1.5.3

Sorry, forgot to mention it.

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Vasiliadis, Thomas
Sent: 12 d?cembre, 2005 11:19
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: AW: [Mediawiki-l] Files extensions

Hi, which Version of Wki we are talking about?

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Simon Renshaw
Gesendet: Montag, 12. Dezember 2005 17:15
An: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
Betreff: [Mediawiki-l] Files extensions

Hi,

If I want to allow any kind of files to be uploaded, I just need to add:

$wgVerifyMimeType = false;

To LocalSettings.php?

Thanks!
_______________________________________________
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MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l


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From simon at castortech.com  Mon Dec 12 16:26:18 2005
From: simon at castortech.com (Simon Renshaw)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:26:18 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Spell-checker
Message-ID: <D5F291ABFAB3454D85DB58B747B63982138E9E@castor-srvr1.castortech.com>

Hi,

Is there a way to add a spell-checker to the wiki (version 1.5.3)?

Thanks!



From mailsgetlost at web.de  Mon Dec 12 16:27:30 2005
From: mailsgetlost at web.de (Martin Baumann)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 17:27:30 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Cannot unprotect my own page!
Message-ID: <2060912283@web.de>

Hi,

I am definitely loogen on as SysOp. When I click 'unprotect' I am asked for a reason for unprotecting this site. No matter what I enter here after I clicked the Confirm button I am redirected to just the same site and the same procedure starts. The site is not unprotected !!!

What can be the reason for such a thing?

Thanks, Martin
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From simon at castortech.com  Mon Dec 12 16:30:39 2005
From: simon at castortech.com (Simon Renshaw)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 11:30:39 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Files extensions
Message-ID: <D5F291ABFAB3454D85DB58B747B63982138E9F@castor-srvr1.castortech.com>

Thanks!

That did the trick.

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
Sent: 12 d?cembre, 2005 11:24
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Files extensions

$wgStrictFileExtensions = false in LocalSettings.php


Rob Church

On 12/12/05, Simon Renshaw <simon at castortech.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If I want to allow any kind of files to be uploaded, I just need to add:
>
> $wgVerifyMimeType = false;
>
> To LocalSettings.php?
>
> Thanks!
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From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 16:43:05 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:43:05 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] writing a bot ... directest access to articles
In-Reply-To: <002601c5fe4e$aaed4db0$6400a8c0@notebook>
References: <002601c5fe4e$aaed4db0$6400a8c0@notebook>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512120843m2e1623f8v@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/12/05, Johannes Feigl <johannes.feigl at aon.at> wrote:
> > i think it would be nice of you add to the index.php also the action
> > "source".
> > like: "index.php?title=Wikipedia&action=edit", and you only get the
> > sourcecode of the article "Wikipedia"

Well, we already have an action akin to this, called "raw" -
...action=raw will give you just the wikitext (with a content-type of
text/x-wiki, I think). You can also use Special:Export/pagename to get
the wikitext wrapped in some XML metadata.

> sorry, i thought about "index.php?title=Wikipedia&action=source"
> it could also include the hidden input arguments you get when using
> "edit", could look like something like that when opening that page:

This sounds a lot less like "source", and more like a bot API, I guess
like the things requested at
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=208 - although oddly,
nobody seems to have mentionned bot *edits* in that particular
discussion. [As you mention, the particularities of the editting case
are the need to receive and retransmit the extra verification fields
like timestamps and such; the rest of it is just a case of telling the
software not to do very much :)]

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 16:52:39 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:52:39 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Cannot unprotect my own page!
In-Reply-To: <2060912283@web.de>
References: <2060912283@web.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512120852ha153d35v@mail.gmail.com>

What page are you trying to unprotect? Also, does this happen on one
particular page or all of them? If the latter, then something's up
with the browser or server losing POST data.


Rob Church

On 12/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am definitely loogen on as SysOp. When I click 'unprotect' I am asked for a reason for unprotecting this site. No matter what I enter here after I clicked the Confirm button I am redirected to just the same site and the same procedure starts. The site is not unprotected !!!
>
> What can be the reason for such a thing?
>
> Thanks, Martin
> ______________________________________________________________
> Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS!
> Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193
>
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From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 16:53:23 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 16:53:23 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Spell-checker
In-Reply-To: <D5F291ABFAB3454D85DB58B747B63982138E9E@castor-srvr1.castortech.com>
References: <D5F291ABFAB3454D85DB58B747B63982138E9E@castor-srvr1.castortech.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512120853h3e32bb7fr@mail.gmail.com>

If you code one and hack it into the software. There's no formal spell
checker and I'm not aware of many successful extensions, but as
always, Google is your friend.


Rob Church

On 12/12/05, Simon Renshaw <simon at castortech.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a way to add a spell-checker to the wiki (version 1.5.3)?
>
> Thanks!
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From mailsgetlost at web.de  Mon Dec 12 17:01:25 2005
From: mailsgetlost at web.de (Martin Baumann)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 18:01:25 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Cannot unprotect my own page!
Message-ID: <2060966192@web.de>

Hi,

this happens to all of my protected sites!
I tried different browsers (firefox, konquerer) different computers and even a windows system
=> everywhere symw problem

What do you mean server losing POST data?
How can I find out?
Can I change this? It is a server of a university where I cannot do a lot.

But isn't it strange that few days ago I could protect the sites and not I cannot unprotect them?

Martin


MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org> schrieb am 12.12.05 17:54:16:
> 
> What page are you trying to unprotect? Also, does this happen on one
> particular page or all of them? If the latter, then something's up
> with the browser or server losing POST data.
> 
> 
> Rob Church
> 
> On 12/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am definitely loogen on as SysOp. When I click 'unprotect' I am asked for a reason for unprotecting this site. No matter what I enter here after I clicked the Confirm button I am redirected to just the same site and the same procedure starts. The site is not unprotected !!!
> >
> > What can be the reason for such a thing?
> >
> > Thanks, Martin
> > ______________________________________________________________
> > Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS!
> > Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
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From tom.haws at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 17:07:53 2005
From: tom.haws at gmail.com (Thomas Haws)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:07:53 -0700
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Blocked user options
In-Reply-To: <8d9081620512120737g7e9da3f7m74fe02c89250c37c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <8d9081620512120737g7e9da3f7m74fe02c89250c37c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8d9081620512120907j6eccf5efh7098d34b06eedc52@mail.gmail.com>

Here is the revised text I used:

Your user name or IP address has been blocked by $1.
The reason given is this:<br />''$2''
<br />
<br />
You may use the "email this user" feature to contact $1 or one of the other
[[Project:Administrators|administrators]] to discuss the block.
<br />
<br />
Note that you must log in and have a verified e-mail address to use the
"email this user" feature.  Creating an account and logging in are allowed
even from this blocked ip address.  If you didn't provide a valid e-mail
address at the time of registration, you can add a valid email address in
your [[Special:Preferences|user preferences]].  As soon as you respond to
the verification e-mail message, you will be able to log in and e-mail an
administrator.
<br />
<br />
Your IP address is $3. Please include this address in any queries you make.

Tom Haws


From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Mon Dec 12 18:53:43 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:53:43 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Spell-checker
In-Reply-To: <20051212162737.624C71AC18A7@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051212162737.624C71AC18A7@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <46521818-CAD2-48F2-AB12-91D021FB5BB6@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: Simon Renshaw <simon at castortech.com>
>
> Is there a way to add a spell-checker to the wiki (version 1.5.3)?

Personally, I think that's the responsibility of the client.

At least Mac OS X has great common spell-checking across all  
applications, such that I would personally NOT want the server doing  
it, if it had the slightest negative impact on performance or  
experience.


:::: I'm not looking for culprits because we're all culprits. Every  
last one of us is doing things that shouldn't be done in a rational  
society because we haven't known any alternative. -- M. King Hubbert,  
1976 ::::
:::: Jan Steinman <http://www.IslandSeeds/wiki/Energy> ::::




From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Mon Dec 12 18:55:29 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:55:29 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: External Images with thumb
In-Reply-To: <20051212162737.624C71AC18A7@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051212162737.624C71AC18A7@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <A5214E70-D5FF-423A-83EA-275AEF8E4DE2@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de>
>
> is there a way to use external image links with a thumb preview?

You mean as in "goatse.cx"? :-)

I think it is generally agreed that allowing arbitrary external  
images has tons of security and copyright issues.


:::: The white man seeks to conquer nature, to bend it to his will  
and to use it wastefully until it?s all gone and then he simply moves  
on, leaving the waste behind him and looking for new places to take.  
The whole white race is a monster who is always hungry and what he  
eats is land. ? Chiksika, elder brother of Tecumseh, March 19, 1779
:::: Jan Steinman, http://www.Bytesmiths.com



From simon at castortech.com  Mon Dec 12 19:37:33 2005
From: simon at castortech.com (Simon Renshaw)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:37:33 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Spell-checker
Message-ID: <D5F291ABFAB3454D85DB58B747B63982138EA7@castor-srvr1.castortech.com>

I understand your concern.

But I'm running a small, private wiki so performance is not an issue.

I found one at http://mcintosh.cjb.net/wiki/index.php/Spell_Checker but my
knowledge of PHP is basically is null.

Anybody tried that one or willing to help me install it?

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Jan Steinman
Sent: 12 d?cembre, 2005 13:54
To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Spell-checker

> From: Simon Renshaw <simon at castortech.com>
>
> Is there a way to add a spell-checker to the wiki (version 1.5.3)?

Personally, I think that's the responsibility of the client.

At least Mac OS X has great common spell-checking across all  
applications, such that I would personally NOT want the server doing  
it, if it had the slightest negative impact on performance or  
experience.


:::: I'm not looking for culprits because we're all culprits. Every  
last one of us is doing things that shouldn't be done in a rational  
society because we haven't known any alternative. -- M. King Hubbert,  
1976 ::::
:::: Jan Steinman <http://www.IslandSeeds/wiki/Energy> ::::


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From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 19:41:23 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:41:23 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Cannot unprotect my own page!
In-Reply-To: <2060966192@web.de>
References: <2060966192@web.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512121141l5a7a889fj@mail.gmail.com>

So you can't protect any protected page on your wiki, no matter what
namespace it's in?


Rob Church

On 12/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> this happens to all of my protected sites!
> I tried different browsers (firefox, konquerer) different computers and even a windows system
> => everywhere symw problem
>
> What do you mean server losing POST data?
> How can I find out?
> Can I change this? It is a server of a university where I cannot do a lot.
>
> But isn't it strange that few days ago I could protect the sites and not I cannot unprotect them?
>
> Martin
>
>
> MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org> schrieb am 12.12.05 17:54:16:
> >
> > What page are you trying to unprotect? Also, does this happen on one
> > particular page or all of them? If the latter, then something's up
> > with the browser or server losing POST data.
> >
> >
> > Rob Church
> >
> > On 12/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am definitely loogen on as SysOp. When I click 'unprotect' I am asked for a reason for unprotecting this site. No matter what I enter here after I clicked the Confirm button I am redirected to just the same site and the same procedure starts. The site is not unprotected !!!
> > >
> > > What can be the reason for such a thing?
> > >
> > > Thanks, Martin
> > > ______________________________________________________________
> > > Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS!
> > > Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS!
> Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193
>
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From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 19:41:23 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:41:23 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Cannot unprotect my own page!
In-Reply-To: <2060966192@web.de>
References: <2060966192@web.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512121141l5a7a889fj@mail.gmail.com>

So you can't protect any protected page on your wiki, no matter what
namespace it's in?


Rob Church

On 12/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> this happens to all of my protected sites!
> I tried different browsers (firefox, konquerer) different computers and even a windows system
> => everywhere symw problem
>
> What do you mean server losing POST data?
> How can I find out?
> Can I change this? It is a server of a university where I cannot do a lot.
>
> But isn't it strange that few days ago I could protect the sites and not I cannot unprotect them?
>
> Martin
>
>
> MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org> schrieb am 12.12.05 17:54:16:
> >
> > What page are you trying to unprotect? Also, does this happen on one
> > particular page or all of them? If the latter, then something's up
> > with the browser or server losing POST data.
> >
> >
> > Rob Church
> >
> > On 12/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I am definitely loogen on as SysOp. When I click 'unprotect' I am asked for a reason for unprotecting this site. No matter what I enter here after I clicked the Confirm button I am redirected to just the same site and the same procedure starts. The site is not unprotected !!!
> > >
> > > What can be the reason for such a thing?
> > >
> > > Thanks, Martin
> > > ______________________________________________________________
> > > Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS!
> > > Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
>
> ______________________________________________________________
> Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS!
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>
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From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 19:57:02 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:57:02 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Spell-checker
In-Reply-To: <46521818-CAD2-48F2-AB12-91D021FB5BB6@Bytesmiths.com>
References: <20051212162737.624C71AC18A7@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<46521818-CAD2-48F2-AB12-91D021FB5BB6@Bytesmiths.com>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512121157y341e5468s@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/12/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
> > Is there a way to add a spell-checker to the wiki (version 1.5.3)?
>
> Personally, I think that's the responsibility of the client.

I recently came across a plugin for Mozilla/Firefox/etc that provides
spell-checking in any textarea, and seems to work fine with MediaWiki;
see http://spellbound.sourceforge.net/

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 21:58:10 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:58:10 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Idea for MediaWiki - Thoughts on how to implement
In-Reply-To: <1134167745.18604.17.camel@localhost>
References: <1134167745.18604.17.camel@localhost>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512121358s49335234t@mail.gmail.com>

On 09/12/05, Paul Betts <paul at paulbetts.org> wrote:
> is a program called Tomboy (the site is down, but the wp article on it
> is at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tomboy_%28software%29). What would be
> really awesome is that same kind of simple interface, but attached to a
> MediaWiki backend, so this personal note-taking tool would be a great
> way to collaborate.

So, basically, this would be a kind of "desktop interface" to MediaWiki, right?

> 2. Add an RSS feed to get recently changed page names and names of all
> pages that exist, and use custom POSTs to submit new pages.
>         - Requires patching / adding to MediaWiki
>         - Still need to find a way to get the text of a page in MediaWiki
> format
>         + Other apps could still use it but it would only work on patched wikis

I think most of this could be done with already existing features (and
what couldn't would probably be useful for other things, so wouldn't
necessarily have to be external patches/extensions).

For instance, Special:Recentchanges and Special:Newpages can be viewed
as RSS or Atom already, and there is an open request for feeds of
Special:Log pages, which would include page moves
[http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4182]. Listing all
pages might be a little expensive, but Special:Allpages does exist
(some screen-scraping would currently be required, I'm afraid).
Getting the source of a page can be done via "...action=raw" (and see
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Alternative_parsers for help rendering
it) or unskinned HTML can be grabbed with "...action=render".

Like I say, other interfaces (e.g. a quick check for page existence,
even just returning HTTP 404s; a proper SOAP or REST or whatever API,
etc) would almost undoubtedly be welcomed into the main code, if
someone were to make them. Have a browse through
http://meta.wikimedia.org and http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org for other
people's thoughts and efforts. Oh, and you might want to look at
http://pywikipediabot.sf.net for how people have made tools which
exploit features already present.

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Mon Dec 12 22:43:24 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:43:24 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Redirecting site errors to the wiki
In-Reply-To: <20051212193850.5829E1350577@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051212193850.5829E1350577@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <93519FBF-B7A2-4AC6-863A-0283D192741D@Bytesmiths.com>

It's been stated here before that one should not put the wiki  
directly under the root of your site, like "http://www.mysite.com/ 
WikiWord", but rather have something else in-between, like "http:// 
www.mysite.com/wiki/WikiWord".

I forget the reason for this, and wonder if that reason holds true  
for a hack I just implemented. I have Apache set up to go to  
Error.php upon encountering a missing page, which contains the  
following:

<html><head>
<meta http-equiv="refresh" content="0; url=/wiki/<?php echo basename 
($_SERVER['REDIRECT_URL']) ?>">
</head><body></body></html>

This effectively means that a URL "http://www.mysite.com/WikiWord"  
will be redirected to "http://www.mysite.com/wiki/WikiWord".

Is this a bad thing? Should I just throw up a generic error page  
instead?



:::: I have no doubt that it is possible to give a new direction to  
technological development, a direction that shall lead it back to the  
real needs of man, and that also means: to the actual size of man.  
Man is small, and, therefore, small is beautiful. -- EF Schumaker ::::
:::: Jan Steinman, SEEDS http://www.IslandSeeds.org/wiki ::::




From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 23:19:27 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:19:27 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Redirecting site errors to the wiki
In-Reply-To: <93519FBF-B7A2-4AC6-863A-0283D192741D@Bytesmiths.com>
References: <20051212193850.5829E1350577@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<93519FBF-B7A2-4AC6-863A-0283D192741D@Bytesmiths.com>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512121519r76d87a9cm@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/12/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
> This effectively means that a URL "http://www.mysite.com/WikiWord"
> will be redirected to "http://www.mysite.com/wiki/WikiWord".

Type http://en.wikipedia.org/WikiWord and see what happens :)
[If it's good enough for Wikipedia...]

As for why not just have your wiki contents there in the first place,
it's because it rules out exposing anything other than articles,
including things that have to be in the root like "robots.txt" and
[for maximum compatibility] "favicon.ico", and of course the scripts
themselves.

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From mailsgetlost at web.de  Mon Dec 12 23:31:24 2005
From: mailsgetlost at web.de (Martin Baumann)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 00:31:24 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] External Images with thumb
In-Reply-To: <2060797130@web.de>
References: <2060797130@web.de>
Message-ID: <439E084C.8040309@web.de>

similar question:

how can I make a image link - I mean an image that has a function as a link
so I could make a thumb nail picture of alle images by hand and link 
these small images
to the big ones...

Martin



Martin Baumann schrieb:

>Hi,
>
>is there a way to use external image links with a thumb preview?
>
>At the moment I copy the image files on my webspace by hand. In the wiki I enter just the URL to the file. So the image is shown correct. But I want to use small pictures as a preview and the user can click on these small images and get the full size image.
>
>Because of huge safe mode problems - I am 3 weeks on it now :-( - I decided not to use image upload function managed by wiki itself. 
>
>Thanks, Martin
>______________________________________________________________
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>  
>


From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Mon Dec 12 23:30:06 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:30:06 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] External Images with thumb
In-Reply-To: <439E084C.8040309@web.de>
References: <2060797130@web.de> <439E084C.8040309@web.de>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512121530s19af18e6i@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> how can I make a image link - I mean an image that has a function as a link

Unfortunately, you can't. See http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/539

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From mauro at carmo.ws  Tue Dec 13 03:10:54 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:10:54 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] delete complytely a page
Message-ID: <20051213031102.D195E1158B3E@mail.wikimedia.org>

Hi,

First, I would like to thank everyone. I got localisation set up, beautiful
URLs working fine.

This problem just pop up: How do I delete completely a page? I want to
delete a page and its historical data all together.

Thanks again, mauro.

-----------------------
Server: * PHP Version 4.3.11-dev;
        * Mediawiki: 1.5.3;
??????? * on Linux, Apache 1.3.31 base environment.

Client: * Win XP Home Edition SP2;
??????? * Browser: FireFox;
        * Extensions: Wikipedia 0.5.2 + Google Bar.



From ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au  Tue Dec 13 03:21:12 2005
From: ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au (Laurie Lewis)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 14:21:12 +1100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Wiki Names
Message-ID: <000001c5ff94$45265570$661aa8c0@airedale>

Hi,
 
I have set up a multiple wiki site by putting separate wikis in their
own directories.  At this time they are named  by their directory
location- that is:-
 
http://domain.name/language.code/etc.
 
I have put these entries into the interwiki table as they exist as:-
 
en   http://domain.name/en  0  0
 
Each wiki has its own database name:-  example_en  example_da
 
When I look at wikipedia I see naming such as
 
http://language.code/domain.name/etc
 
Can I do this without having to go and register subdomains etc.  If so
how?  Will the current database structure support this??
 
 
I am very new at this so any help appreciated.
 
Laurie


From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Tue Dec 13 03:26:32 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 19:26:32 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Redirecting site errors to the wiki
In-Reply-To: <20051213032144.9EF8E1AC18D3@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051213032144.9EF8E1AC18D3@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <7B5CBD7C-0000-4AC5-B56C-61E7C8C8532A@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: Rowan Collins <rowan.collins at gmail.com>
>
> Type http://en.wikipedia.org/WikiWord and see what happens :)
> [If it's good enough for Wikipedia...]

I guess I should have tried that before asking the list... :-)

> As for why not just have your wiki contents there in the first place,
> it's because it rules out exposing anything other than articles...

That's what I had suspected, but wanted to make sure I hadn't  
committed some deadly sin!


:::: If the energy crisis forces us to diminish automobile use in the  
cities, stops us from building highways and covering the country with  
concrete and asphalt, forces us to rehabilitate the railroads, causes  
us to invest in mass transportation and limits the waste of  
electrical energy, one can only assume that the Arab nations and the  
big oil companies have united to save the American Republic. -- John  
Kenneth Galbraith
:::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesimths.com/Van>




From arubin at atl.lmco.com  Tue Dec 13 04:28:56 2005
From: arubin at atl.lmco.com (Aron Rubin)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:28:56 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Spell-checker
In-Reply-To: <D5F291ABFAB3454D85DB58B747B63982138E9E@castor-srvr1.castortech.com>
References: <D5F291ABFAB3454D85DB58B747B63982138E9E@castor-srvr1.castortech.com>
Message-ID: <439E4E08.2050505@atl.lmco.com>

Simon Renshaw wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a way to add a spell-checker to the wiki (version 1.5.3)?
>
> Thanks!
>   
Been working on it. I was waiting for the guy who started the project to 
respond but in the mean time I will give you the links. My version is a 
proper mediawiki extension but still uses his original javascript. Enjoy.

Original:
http://mcintosh.cjb.net/wiki/index.php/Spell_Checker
MediaWiki Specific and polished (see README for installation:
http://rubinium.org/downloads/mw_spellcheckext-0.5.zip

Aron



From wikilegal at inbox.org  Tue Dec 13 04:35:28 2005
From: wikilegal at inbox.org (Anthony DiPierro)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:35:28 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Spell-checker
In-Reply-To: <46521818-CAD2-48F2-AB12-91D021FB5BB6@Bytesmiths.com>
References: <20051212162737.624C71AC18A7@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<46521818-CAD2-48F2-AB12-91D021FB5BB6@Bytesmiths.com>
Message-ID: <71cd4dd90512122035o52ac27c0hcaeff874e5fc03c0@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/12/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
> > From: Simon Renshaw <simon at castortech.com>
> >
> > Is there a way to add a spell-checker to the wiki (version 1.5.3)?
>
> Personally, I think that's the responsibility of the client.
>
One great thing about putting it into the client would be that it
could use a collaboratively maintained dictionary.


From arubin at atl.lmco.com  Tue Dec 13 04:37:19 2005
From: arubin at atl.lmco.com (Aron Rubin)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:37:19 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Spell-checker
In-Reply-To: <46521818-CAD2-48F2-AB12-91D021FB5BB6@Bytesmiths.com>
References: <20051212162737.624C71AC18A7@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<46521818-CAD2-48F2-AB12-91D021FB5BB6@Bytesmiths.com>
Message-ID: <439E4FFF.8040804@atl.lmco.com>

Jan Steinman wrote:
> Personally, I think that's the responsibility of the client.
Not sure why this comes up regularly. I understand that some people are 
very pleased with their application or OS specific spell checker, 
however there are many reasons why someone would want to ensure that all 
visitors to their wiki have access to a server-side at a minimum. As 
implemented this server-side spell check consumes less bandwidth than 
mediawiki's preview function. Remember if implemented correctly the 
server-side spell check should not preclude the use of a client-side 
solution.

Aron



From wikilegal at inbox.org  Tue Dec 13 04:38:10 2005
From: wikilegal at inbox.org (Anthony DiPierro)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:38:10 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Spell-checker
In-Reply-To: <71cd4dd90512122035o52ac27c0hcaeff874e5fc03c0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051212162737.624C71AC18A7@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<46521818-CAD2-48F2-AB12-91D021FB5BB6@Bytesmiths.com>
	<71cd4dd90512122035o52ac27c0hcaeff874e5fc03c0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <71cd4dd90512122038j33b56a2fw2446788d2c02f4ca@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/12/05, Anthony DiPierro <wikilegal at inbox.org> wrote:
> On 12/12/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
> > > From: Simon Renshaw <simon at castortech.com>
> > >
> > > Is there a way to add a spell-checker to the wiki (version 1.5.3)?
> >
> > Personally, I think that's the responsibility of the client.
> >
> One great thing about putting it into the client would be that it
> could use a collaboratively maintained dictionary.
>
Damn, I mean the server, of course.  How well does the OS X software
work with mediawiki markup?


From arubin at atl.lmco.com  Tue Dec 13 04:44:58 2005
From: arubin at atl.lmco.com (Aron Rubin)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 23:44:58 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Cannot unprotect my own page!
In-Reply-To: <2060912283@web.de>
References: <2060912283@web.de>
Message-ID: <439E51CA.806@atl.lmco.com>

Martin Baumann wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am definitely loogen on as SysOp. When I click 'unprotect' I am asked for a reason for unprotecting this site. No matter what I enter here after I clicked the Confirm button I am redirected to just the same site and the same procedure starts. The site is not unprotected !!!
>
> What can be the reason for such a thing?
>   
I experienced this myself. I noticed that event though I unprotected 
Mediawiki:Sidebar as Admin, I could not edit it. However, I discovered 
that when I logged on as my own user identity, I was then able to edit 
the page. Hope this helps.

Aron


From michael at bartmess.net  Tue Dec 13 04:48:50 2005
From: michael at bartmess.net (Michael Bartmess)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:48:50 -0700
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Lost icons
Message-ID: <BAY107-DAV88532CC0BDC0CF6CD2913A5390@phx.gbl>

I have only had the MediaWiki software running for a few days.  I deleted a
page from the wiki (don't know if that caused the problem) and now the icons
are missing from the editing window.  I verified that the .png files (such
as the button_bold.png) are still in the skins\common\images folder.  I
verified that the EditPage.php is intact.
 
Anybody have any ideas hwo i can get my icons back?
 
Along with the edit page icons for bold, italic, etc, it seems to have
affected the link to the mediawiki icon at the bottom of the page.
 

 

Michael C. Bartmess




From ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au  Tue Dec 13 04:53:18 2005
From: ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au (Laurie Lewis)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:53:18 +1100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] boards2go spam attack
In-Reply-To: <40b4c2310512120503k5b34bba3h21cb50f67a861c8b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001c5ffa1$231910f0$661aa8c0@airedale>

Does this mean that to stop the spam attacks I just have to add this
line or is there some other things that have to be done as well?

Laurie

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of admin Yellowikis
Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2005 12:04 AM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] boards2go spam attack

$wgSpamRegex="/overflow:\s*auto/";

Works fine.

Paul


On 12/12/05, admin Yellowikis <yellowikis at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks Rick.
>
> On 12/12/05, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 12/12/05, admin Yellowikis <yellowikis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > We've been attacked too - It also adds a long list of links to
> > > http://buy-ativan.fil.ph lower on the page.
> > >
> > > we had:
> > >
> > >  $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
> > >
> > > in LocalSettings.php
> > >
> > > but an extra space has been added after the ...overflow: auto....
> > >
> > > so now we have both
> > >  $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
> > >  $wgSpamRegex="/overflow: auto/";
> >
> > Of course since $wgSpamRegex is a scalar, only the second value will
> > be in effect, overwriting the first.
> >
> > I think that something like
> >   $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:\s*auto/
> >
> > would work. The \s* matches zero or more whitespace characters.
This
> > might be slightly off since I'm not completely up on php regex
pattern
> > syntax.
> > --
> > Rick DeNatale
> >
> > Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
> > http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
>
>
> --
> Yellowikis is to Yellow Pages, as Wikipedia is to The Encyclopedia
Britannica
>


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Britannica
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From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Tue Dec 13 05:37:32 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:37:32 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] 1.5.2 problems with MySQL 5.0.16?
In-Reply-To: <20051213032144.9EF8E1AC18D3@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051213032144.9EF8E1AC18D3@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <0E53626B-2A06-42FE-A2DC-824B0373CE8A@Bytesmiths.com>

I just upgraded my server to MySQL 5.0.16 max from 4.0.16.

I host about a dozen websites that use MySQL, and all of them seem to  
be working fine, including those that were using MediaWiki 1.4.

But the ONE website that was using MW 1.5.2 is busted! I get the  
following stack dump on the Main Page:

Error in fetchObject(): MySQL server has gone away
Backtrace:
GlobalFunctions.php line 451 calls wfbacktrace()
Database.php line 531 calls wfdebugdiebacktrace()
MessageCache.php line 151 calls databasemysql::fetchobject()
MessageCache.php line 94 calls messagecache::loadfromdb()
MessageCache.php line 247 calls messagecache::load()
GlobalFunctions.php line 342 calls messagecache::get()
GlobalFunctions.php line 322 calls wfmsggetkey()
GlobalFunctions.php line 297 calls wfmsgreal()
OutputPage.php line 657 calls wfmsgnodb()
Database.php line 411 calls outputpage::databaseerror()
Database.php line 358 calls databasemysql::reportqueryerror()
Database.php line 734 calls databasemysql::query()
Database.php line 656 calls databasemysql::select()
LinkCache.php line 162 calls databasemysql::selectfield()
Title.php line 1150 calls linkcache::addlinkobj()
index.php line 86 calls title::getarticleid()

Any quick hints before I go digging deeper?


:::: He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already  
earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since  
for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. -- Albert Einstein
:::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Item/99-6313-16>




From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Tue Dec 13 06:59:43 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 22:59:43 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: 1.5.2 problems with MySQL 5.0.16?
In-Reply-To: <20051213032144.9EF8E1AC18D3@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051213032144.9EF8E1AC18D3@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <F176F46E-9801-471B-A85E-35A91494B36B@Bytesmiths.com>

Well, I touched the GRANT table for the MySQL user for this site, and  
re-loaded, and now it gets a bit further. Instead of a stack trace, I  
now get the following:

> Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
>
> Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.
>
> (Can't contact the database server: Client does not support  
> authentication protocol requested by server; consider upgrading  
> MySQL client (localhost))

Does this suggest anything?

Again, this site (www.EcoReality.org) was working fine with MySQL  
4.0.16, and my other wikis that are at MW1.4 are working fine with  
MySQL 5.0.16.

:::: He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already  
earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since  
for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. -- Albert Einstein
:::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Item/99-6313-16>




From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec 13 12:24:07 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:24:07 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Wiki Names
In-Reply-To: <000001c5ff94$45265570$661aa8c0@airedale>
References: <000001c5ff94$45265570$661aa8c0@airedale>
Message-ID: <e92136380512130424t735042b7u@mail.gmail.com>

The Wikimedia wiki farm is, to my knowledge, the most complicated wiki
farm running MediaWiki there is. Of course it's possible, but you
probably won't want to reproduce the entire setup.

Information on one possible setup is available at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ#How_do_I_create_a_small_wiki_farm.3F,
whilst information on Wikimedia's own setup can be found at
http://wikitech.leuksman.com/view/Wiki_farm.


Rob Church

On 13/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have set up a multiple wiki site by putting separate wikis in their
> own directories.  At this time they are named  by their directory
> location- that is:-
>
> http://domain.name/language.code/etc.
>
> I have put these entries into the interwiki table as they exist as:-
>
> en   http://domain.name/en  0  0
>
> Each wiki has its own database name:-  example_en  example_da
>
> When I look at wikipedia I see naming such as
>
> http://language.code/domain.name/etc
>
> Can I do this without having to go and register subdomains etc.  If so
> how?  Will the current database structure support this??
>
>
> I am very new at this so any help appreciated.
>
> Laurie
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec 13 12:26:00 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:26:00 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Cannot unprotect my own page!
In-Reply-To: <439E51CA.806@atl.lmco.com>
References: <2060912283@web.de> <439E51CA.806@atl.lmco.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512130426n13827a0an@mail.gmail.com>

The MediaWiki namespace is protected for a reason, and while some
users have reported that parts of it can be unprotected, the behaviour
is not official and is rather hit-and-miss. Administrator rights are
required in order to alter that aspect of the wiki.


Rob Church

On 13/12/05, Aron Rubin <arubin at atl.lmco.com> wrote:
> Martin Baumann wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am definitely loogen on as SysOp. When I click 'unprotect' I am asked for a reason for unprotecting this site. No matter what I enter here after I clicked the Confirm button I am redirected to just the same site and the same procedure starts. The site is not unprotected !!!
> >
> > What can be the reason for such a thing?
> >
> I experienced this myself. I noticed that event though I unprotected
> Mediawiki:Sidebar as Admin, I could not edit it. However, I discovered
> that when I logged on as my own user identity, I was then able to edit
> the page. Hope this helps.
>
> Aron
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec 13 12:32:46 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:32:46 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] boards2go spam attack
In-Reply-To: <000001c5ffa1$231910f0$661aa8c0@airedale>
References: <40b4c2310512120503k5b34bba3h21cb50f67a861c8b@mail.gmail.com>
	<000001c5ffa1$231910f0$661aa8c0@airedale>
Message-ID: <e92136380512130432p7c8d3221n@mail.gmail.com>

It will help combat that particular spam attack, but it won't stop all
of them from all sources. Most wiki owners have to weigh up the
various options available to them in combating spam and spambots. One
option some take is to cripple editing for anonymous users, for
instance.

At the end of the day, what you do depends very much on how much you
can "get away with" without compromising the goal you set out to reach
with your wiki.


Rob Church

On 13/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> Does this mean that to stop the spam attacks I just have to add this
> line or is there some other things that have to be done as well?
>
> Laurie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of admin Yellowikis
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2005 12:04 AM
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] boards2go spam attack
>
> $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:\s*auto/";
>
> Works fine.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 12/12/05, admin Yellowikis <yellowikis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Rick.
> >
> > On 12/12/05, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 12/12/05, admin Yellowikis <yellowikis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > We've been attacked too - It also adds a long list of links to
> > > > http://buy-ativan.fil.ph lower on the page.
> > > >
> > > > we had:
> > > >
> > > >  $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
> > > >
> > > > in LocalSettings.php
> > > >
> > > > but an extra space has been added after the ...overflow: auto....
> > > >
> > > > so now we have both
> > > >  $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
> > > >  $wgSpamRegex="/overflow: auto/";
> > >
> > > Of course since $wgSpamRegex is a scalar, only the second value will
> > > be in effect, overwriting the first.
> > >
> > > I think that something like
> > >   $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:\s*auto/
> > >
> > > would work. The \s* matches zero or more whitespace characters.
> This
> > > might be slightly off since I'm not completely up on php regex
> pattern
> > > syntax.
> > > --
> > > Rick DeNatale
> > >
> > > Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
> > > http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Yellowikis is to Yellow Pages, as Wikipedia is to The Encyclopedia
> Britannica
> >
>
>
> --
> Yellowikis is to Yellow Pages, as Wikipedia is to The Encyclopedia
> Britannica
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec 13 12:40:05 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:40:05 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: 1.5.2 problems with MySQL 5.0.16?
In-Reply-To: <F176F46E-9801-471B-A85E-35A91494B36B@Bytesmiths.com>
References: <20051213032144.9EF8E1AC18D3@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<F176F46E-9801-471B-A85E-35A91494B36B@Bytesmiths.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512130440r55801810q@mail.gmail.com>

Ordinarily I'd bawl at you to upgrade PHP as being the easier route;
this being a classic indicator of the old, "PHP's mySQL binaries are
out of date with the new authentication in mySQL 5"...however as other
applications are working, this might be a useless task...


Rob Church

On 13/12/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
> Well, I touched the GRANT table for the MySQL user for this site, and
> re-loaded, and now it gets a bit further. Instead of a stack trace, I
> now get the following:
>
> > Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
> >
> > Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.
> >
> > (Can't contact the database server: Client does not support
> > authentication protocol requested by server; consider upgrading
> > MySQL client (localhost))
>
> Does this suggest anything?
>
> Again, this site (www.EcoReality.org) was working fine with MySQL
> 4.0.16, and my other wikis that are at MW1.4 are working fine with
> MySQL 5.0.16.
>
> :::: He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already
> earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since
> for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. -- Albert Einstein
> :::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Item/99-6313-16>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec 13 12:40:05 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:40:05 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: 1.5.2 problems with MySQL 5.0.16?
In-Reply-To: <F176F46E-9801-471B-A85E-35A91494B36B@Bytesmiths.com>
References: <20051213032144.9EF8E1AC18D3@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<F176F46E-9801-471B-A85E-35A91494B36B@Bytesmiths.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512130440r55801810q@mail.gmail.com>

Ordinarily I'd bawl at you to upgrade PHP as being the easier route;
this being a classic indicator of the old, "PHP's mySQL binaries are
out of date with the new authentication in mySQL 5"...however as other
applications are working, this might be a useless task...


Rob Church

On 13/12/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
> Well, I touched the GRANT table for the MySQL user for this site, and
> re-loaded, and now it gets a bit further. Instead of a stack trace, I
> now get the following:
>
> > Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
> >
> > Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.
> >
> > (Can't contact the database server: Client does not support
> > authentication protocol requested by server; consider upgrading
> > MySQL client (localhost))
>
> Does this suggest anything?
>
> Again, this site (www.EcoReality.org) was working fine with MySQL
> 4.0.16, and my other wikis that are at MW1.4 are working fine with
> MySQL 5.0.16.
>
> :::: He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already
> earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since
> for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. -- Albert Einstein
> :::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Item/99-6313-16>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Tue Dec 13 13:03:42 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:03:42 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] delete complytely a page
In-Reply-To: <20051213031102.D195E1158B3E@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051213031102.D195E1158B3E@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512130503wc0e4b95k@mail.gmail.com>

On 13/12/05, Mauro do Carmo <mauro at carmo.ws> wrote:
> This problem just pop up: How do I delete completely a page? I want to
> delete a page and its historical data all together.

If you're logged into an account with "sysop" status (one of these
should have been setup during install), there should be a "delete" tab
at the top of each page. The revisions will be kept in the database,
in case you made a mistake and want to undelete them later, but
ordinary users won't be able to see them, and the page will basically
cease to exist.

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From pg at levana.de  Tue Dec 13 14:31:59 2005
From: pg at levana.de (Patrick Gundlach)
Date: 13 Dec 2005 15:31:59 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: boards2go spam attack
In-Reply-To: <013a01c5fed2$67e89450$880fa8c0@sterlings> (Sterling D. Allan's
	message of "Sun, 11 Dec 2005 21:13:28 -0700")
References: <013a01c5fed2$67e89450$880fa8c0@sterlings>
Message-ID: <m2irttax0g.fsf@levana.de>


Hi, 

once I set 

$wgSpamRegex="/<div/";

I had no more automated spam attacks. This blocks users from entering
'<div', which might be bad, but I had no complaints yet.

Patrick


From tor at superman.ws  Tue Dec 13 15:37:15 2005
From: tor at superman.ws (Tor Kinlok)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:37:15 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: boards2go spam attack
In-Reply-To: <m2irttax0g.fsf@levana.de>
References: <013a01c5fed2$67e89450$880fa8c0@sterlings>
	<m2irttax0g.fsf@levana.de>
Message-ID: <8C34D8D6-EAC1-4A52-9605-F2171E17B447@superman.ws>

Is there any way to block both '<div' and 'overflow:\s*auto'?

We've been getting inundated with both.

On Dec 13, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> once I set
>
> $wgSpamRegex="/<div/";
>
> I had no more automated spam attacks. This blocks users from entering
> '<div', which might be bad, but I had no complaints yet.
>
> Patrick
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>



From Arthur at assys.net  Tue Dec 13 15:48:39 2005
From: Arthur at assys.net (Arthur Guy)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 15:48:39 -0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: boards2go spam attack
Message-ID: <2A86EFBE967DCA498DEDBCB0541E1796636B@zeus.assys.net>

Isn't the overflow:auto attribute used within div tags?
If it is then all you have to do is block <div.

-Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Tor Kinlok
Sent: 13 December 2005 15:37
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Re: boards2go spam attack

Is there any way to block both '<div' and 'overflow:\s*auto'?

We've been getting inundated with both.

On Dec 13, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> once I set
>
> $wgSpamRegex="/<div/";
>
> I had no more automated spam attacks. This blocks users from entering
> '<div', which might be bad, but I had no complaints yet.
>
> Patrick
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>

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From puzzlet at gmail.com  Tue Dec 13 17:06:02 2005
From: puzzlet at gmail.com (Puzzlet Chung)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 02:06:02 +0900
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] External Images with thumb
In-Reply-To: <9f02ca4c0512121530s19af18e6i@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2060797130@web.de> <439E084C.8040309@web.de>
	<9f02ca4c0512121530s19af18e6i@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b172ea670512130906t72301671p389691c84d99ca63@mail.gmail.com>

> > how can I make a image link - I mean an image that has a function as a link
>
> Unfortunately, you can't. See http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/539

Note that there is a hack with <div> to do so -- see
http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sjabloon:Klik


From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Tue Dec 13 17:17:23 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 09:17:23 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Spell-checker
In-Reply-To: <20051213122423.AE8661158A2D@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051213122423.AE8661158A2D@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <D4831B84-3977-4ED9-B2A3-44F024C2FA3E@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: Anthony DiPierro <wikilegal at inbox.org>
> On 12/12/05, Anthony DiPierro <wikilegal at inbox.org> wrote:
>> On 12/12/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
>>>> From: Simon Renshaw <simon at castortech.com>
>>>>
>>>> Is there a way to add a spell-checker to the wiki (version 1.5.3)?
>>>
>>> Personally, I think that's the responsibility of the client.
>>>
>> One great thing about putting it into the client would be that it
>> could use a collaboratively maintained dictionary.
>>
> Damn, I mean the server, of course.  How well does the OS X software
> work with mediawiki markup?

I'm not sure what you mean. It's Unix. "It Just Works"(TM).

I do see the value of a collaboratively maintained dictionary. But  
I'm spoiled by "as you tpye^H^H^Hype" automatic spelling correction,  
and the thought of going back to batch spelling correction makes me  
think about flint knives and stone axes.

:::: A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his  
government. -- Edward Abbey ::::
:::: Jan Steinman http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van ::::




From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Tue Dec 13 18:03:22 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:03:22 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: 1.5.2 problems with MySQL 5.0.16?
In-Reply-To: <20051213171914.669121AC18EB@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051213171914.669121AC18EB@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <E2945DAD-3950-4ECE-829C-EB5399D86F40@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com>
>
> Ordinarily I'd bawl at you to upgrade PHP as being the easier route;
> this being a classic indicator of the old, "PHP's mySQL binaries are
> out of date with the new authentication in mySQL 5"...however as other
> applications are working, this might be a useless task...

Yea, I briefly considered that, but the other sites (including MW1.4  
sites) ARE working with MySQL 5, and this is a spankin' brand new  
installation of MacOS X 10.4.3, complete with the latest patches.

<?php phpinfo() ?> reports PHP Version 4.3.4, but I see that it also  
reports mysql Client API Version 3.23.49. Sigh. I'll poke around a  
bit more...

Is there anything changed between 1.4 and 1.5 that might be using a  
new PHP <---> MySQL API?

I *really* don't want to change PHP from the Apple-supplied version  
if I don't have to. The last time I did that, my clients' sites were  
down for a week while I hunted down various things that broke. I  
guess I'll go see what Liyanage is bundling these days...

> Rob Church
>
> On 13/12/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
>> Well, I touched the GRANT table for the MySQL user for this site, and
>> re-loaded, and now it gets a bit further. Instead of a stack trace, I
>> now get the following:
>>
>>> Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
>>>
>>> Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.
>>>
>>> (Can't contact the database server: Client does not support
>>> authentication protocol requested by server; consider upgrading
>>> MySQL client (localhost))
>>
>> Does this suggest anything?
>>
>> Again, this site (www.EcoReality.org) was working fine with MySQL
>> 4.0.16, and my other wikis that are at MW1.4 are working fine with
>> MySQL 5.0.16.
>>
>> :::: He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already
>> earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since
>> for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. -- Albert Einstein
>> :::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Item/99-6313-16>


:::: The better you live, the more oil you use. -- Esso  
advertisement, New Yorker, 1949
:::: Jan Steinman <htp://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van>



From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Tue Dec 13 18:36:53 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 10:36:53 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: 1.5.2 problems with MySQL 5.0.16?
In-Reply-To: <20051213171914.669121AC18EB@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051213171914.669121AC18EB@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <C1912C82-F67A-499A-A151-6C053233C07B@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com>
>
> Ordinarily I'd bawl at you to upgrade PHP as being the easier route;
> this being a classic indicator of the old, "PHP's mySQL binaries are
> out of date with the new authentication in mySQL 5"...however as other
> applications are working, this might be a useless task...

Another reason why I don't think I need to go there is that  
phpMyAdmin 2.7.0-pl1 (latest) is working flawlessly. You'd think that  
would exercise the PHP-MySQL interface pretty thoroughly.

I went to Marc Liyanage's site, and it looks like he's got PHP  
4.3.11, vs Apple-supplied 4.3.4. So I guess that might be my next step.

But I'm *REALLY* hoping someone will chip in and say "In  
LocalSettings.php, change $wgPhpMySQLInterface to 'mungo_jerry" or  
something similar. I haven't seen anything like that in the docs,  
though...

> Rob Church
>
> On 13/12/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
>> Well, I touched the GRANT table for the MySQL user for this site, and
>> re-loaded, and now it gets a bit further. Instead of a stack trace, I
>> now get the following:
>>
>>> Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
>>>
>>> Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.
>>>
>>> (Can't contact the database server: Client does not support
>>> authentication protocol requested by server; consider upgrading
>>> MySQL client (localhost))
>>
>> Does this suggest anything?
>>
>> Again, this site (www.EcoReality.org) was working fine with MySQL
>> 4.0.16, and my other wikis that are at MW1.4 are working fine with
>> MySQL 5.0.16.
>>
>> :::: He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already
>> earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since
>> for him the spinal cord would fully suffice. -- Albert Einstein
>> :::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Item/99-6313-16>


:::: The better you live, the more oil you use. -- Esso  
advertisement, New Yorker, 1949
:::: Jan Steinman <htp://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van>



From arubin at atl.lmco.com  Tue Dec 13 18:39:23 2005
From: arubin at atl.lmco.com (Aron Rubin)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:39:23 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: boards2go spam attack
In-Reply-To: <8C34D8D6-EAC1-4A52-9605-F2171E17B447@superman.ws>
References: <013a01c5fed2$67e89450$880fa8c0@sterlings>
	<m2irttax0g.fsf@levana.de>
	<8C34D8D6-EAC1-4A52-9605-F2171E17B447@superman.ws>
Message-ID: <439F155B.7000400@atl.lmco.com>

Tor Kinlok wrote:
> Is there any way to block both '<div' and 'overflow:\s*auto'?
>
> We've been getting inundated with both.
>
$wgSpamRegex="/(<div|overflow:[ \t\n]*auto)/";

or did you mean:

$wgSpamRegex="/<div([^>]|[^\\]\\>)*overflow:[ \t\n]*auto)/";

> On Dec 13, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> once I set
>>
>> $wgSpamRegex="/<div/";
>>
>> I had no more automated spam attacks. This blocks users from entering
>> '<div', which might be bad, but I had no complaints yet.
>>
>> Patrick
>> _______________________________________________
>> MediaWiki-l mailing list
>> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>
>
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From sterlingda at pureenergysystems.com  Tue Dec 13 18:40:29 2005
From: sterlingda at pureenergysystems.com (Sterling D. Allan)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:40:29 -0700
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: boards2go spam attack
References: <2A86EFBE967DCA498DEDBCB0541E1796636B@zeus.assys.net>
Message-ID: <04da01c60014$b168f730$880fa8c0@sterlings>

What happens to pages where the <div command is already in place, 
legitimately?

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Arthur Guy" <Arthur at assys.net>
To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" 
<mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:48 AM
Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] Re: boards2go spam attack


Isn't the overflow:auto attribute used within div tags?
If it is then all you have to do is block <div.

-Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Tor Kinlok
Sent: 13 December 2005 15:37
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Re: boards2go spam attack

Is there any way to block both '<div' and 'overflow:\s*auto'?

We've been getting inundated with both.

On Dec 13, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Patrick Gundlach wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> once I set
>
> $wgSpamRegex="/<div/";
>
> I had no more automated spam attacks. This blocks users from entering
> '<div', which might be bad, but I had no complaints yet.
>
> Patrick
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>

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From arubin at atl.lmco.com  Tue Dec 13 18:46:32 2005
From: arubin at atl.lmco.com (Aron Rubin)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:46:32 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: boards2go spam attack
In-Reply-To: <8C34D8D6-EAC1-4A52-9605-F2171E17B447@superman.ws>
References: <013a01c5fed2$67e89450$880fa8c0@sterlings>
	<m2irttax0g.fsf@levana.de>
	<8C34D8D6-EAC1-4A52-9605-F2171E17B447@superman.ws>
Message-ID: <439F1708.70605@atl.lmco.com>

Tor Kinlok wrote:
> Is there any way to block both '<div' and 'overflow:\s*auto'?
>
> We've been getting inundated with both.
>

oops, lets try again

$wgSpamRegex="/(<div|overflow:[ \t\n]*auto)/";

or did you mean:

$wgSpamRegex="/<div(([^>]|[^\\]\\>)+overflow:[ \t\n]*auto)+/";


From simon at castortech.com  Tue Dec 13 18:48:14 2005
From: simon at castortech.com (Simon Renshaw)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:48:14 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Spell-checker
Message-ID: <D5F291ABFAB3454D85DB58B747B63982138ED9@castor-srvr1.castortech.com>

Thanks Aron.

I'm not usre I understand that part:

Sadly there are not many hooks in the mediawiki source and on needs to be
added to support this extension. Add the line proceeded by a plus into the
right place (indicated by the line number and lines of content) in your
includes/EditPage.php file.

I need to add wfRunHooks( 'EditPageToolbar', array( &$toolbar, NULL ) ); in
EditPage.php?

Also, what is the name of the default skin?

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Aron Rubin
Sent: 12 d?cembre, 2005 23:29
To: MediaWiki
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Spell-checker

Simon Renshaw wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there a way to add a spell-checker to the wiki (version 1.5.3)?
>
> Thanks!
>   
Been working on it. I was waiting for the guy who started the project to 
respond but in the mean time I will give you the links. My version is a 
proper mediawiki extension but still uses his original javascript. Enjoy.

Original:
http://mcintosh.cjb.net/wiki/index.php/Spell_Checker
MediaWiki Specific and polished (see README for installation:
http://rubinium.org/downloads/mw_spellcheckext-0.5.zip

Aron

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From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Tue Dec 13 18:59:48 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:59:48 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Spell-checker
In-Reply-To: <D4831B84-3977-4ED9-B2A3-44F024C2FA3E@Bytesmiths.com>
References: <20051213122423.AE8661158A2D@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<D4831B84-3977-4ED9-B2A3-44F024C2FA3E@Bytesmiths.com>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512131059xca7ceb2t@mail.gmail.com>

On 13/12/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
> > Damn, I mean the server, of course.  How well does the OS X software
> > work with mediawiki markup?
>
> I'm not sure what you mean. It's Unix. "It Just Works"(TM).

I think what was meant was does it barf every time you type <nowiki>,
or [[word|another word]], or some of the other odd strings of letters
and punctuation that make up wikitext?

(The server-side spellchecker on LiveJournal is incredibly irritating
in this respect, because for instance the "href" in "<a href..." is
flagged as a misspelling every time, thus defeating the preview part
of "check spelling and preview"; I don't entirely blame the coders,
but it is very annoying)

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From brion.vibber at gmail.com  Tue Dec 13 19:10:32 2005
From: brion.vibber at gmail.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 11:10:32 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: 1.5.2 problems with MySQL 5.0.16?
In-Reply-To: <E2945DAD-3950-4ECE-829C-EB5399D86F40@Bytesmiths.com>
References: <20051213171914.669121AC18EB@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<E2945DAD-3950-4ECE-829C-EB5399D86F40@Bytesmiths.com>
Message-ID: <e8342d870512131110h21aeb80fs47f682dcef9dd957@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/13/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
> Yea, I briefly considered that, but the other sites (including MW1.4
> sites) ARE working with MySQL 5, and this is a spankin' brand new
> installation of MacOS X 10.4.3, complete with the latest patches.

If those sites were installed under the old version of MySQL and you
haven't done anything to change them, they'll still have the old-style
passwords on their db user accounts.

If you installed a new wiki under MySQL 5.0, it'll show

> <?php phpinfo() ?> reports PHP Version 4.3.4, but I see that it also
> reports mysql Client API Version 3.23.49. Sigh. I'll poke around a
> bit more...

PHP 4.x includes built-in libraries for MySQL 3.23.x, which is
compatible with MySQL 4.0.x. MySQL 4.1.x changes the protocol a bit,
most annoyingly in the authentication protocol. Please see the
documentation on dev.mysql.com for more details there on workarounds
if you need to use the old libraries.

If you recompile PHP against the updated MySQL libraries, it will be
able to use the new-style passwords without problems.

> Is there anything changed between 1.4 and 1.5 that might be using a
> new PHP <---> MySQL API?

Most likely you installed a new MediaWiki installation, so it assigned
new GRANTs and created a new password; a new 1.4 installation would do
the same.

> I *really* don't want to change PHP from the Apple-supplied version
> if I don't have to. The last time I did that, my clients' sites were
> down for a week while I hunted down various things that broke. I
> guess I'll go see what Liyanage is bundling these days...

On my Mac boxen I'm actually using lighttpd and several versions of
PHP compiled using the CGI interface. However I use these boxes for
testing (hence the multiple versions of PHP!) not for production use.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)


From cmcintosh at gmail.com  Tue Dec 13 20:49:35 2005
From: cmcintosh at gmail.com (Chris McIntosh)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:49:35 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Spell-checker
In-Reply-To: <9f02ca4c0512131059xca7ceb2t@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051213122423.AE8661158A2D@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<D4831B84-3977-4ED9-B2A3-44F024C2FA3E@Bytesmiths.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512131059xca7ceb2t@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fc095b9f0512131249u60db251ci8fd5442924b6f9ed@mail.gmail.com>

I see you guys are talking about my extension. Sorry I have been busy as of
late. How can I help?

Chris McIntosh

On 12/13/05, Rowan Collins <rowan.collins at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 13/12/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
> > > Damn, I mean the server, of course.  How well does the OS X software
> > > work with mediawiki markup?
> >
> > I'm not sure what you mean. It's Unix. "It Just Works"(TM).
>
> I think what was meant was does it barf every time you type <nowiki>,
> or [[word|another word]], or some of the other odd strings of letters
> and punctuation that make up wikitext?
>
> (The server-side spellchecker on LiveJournal is incredibly irritating
> in this respect, because for instance the "href" in "<a href..." is
> flagged as a misspelling every time, thus defeating the preview part
> of "check spelling and preview"; I don't entirely blame the coders,
> but it is very annoying)
>
> --
> Rowan Collins BSc
> [IMSoP]
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From cmcintosh at gmail.com  Tue Dec 13 20:56:26 2005
From: cmcintosh at gmail.com (Chris McIntosh)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 12:56:26 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Spell-checker
In-Reply-To: <fc095b9f0512131249u60db251ci8fd5442924b6f9ed@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051213122423.AE8661158A2D@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<D4831B84-3977-4ED9-B2A3-44F024C2FA3E@Bytesmiths.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512131059xca7ceb2t@mail.gmail.com>
	<fc095b9f0512131249u60db251ci8fd5442924b6f9ed@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <fc095b9f0512131256i2e688160sf26f68bf33a4f05b@mail.gmail.com>

To answer some of the questions, now that I read the full thread.

My code was designed without Mediawiki as its only use. So thanks to Aron
for making it friendly to mediawiki users.

As for the question of <nowiki> <a href etc. I do handle that. This was
meant to be an html spell checker so I exclude any html tags etc ( or thats
the intent) before I do the spell check.



On 12/13/05, Chris McIntosh <cmcintosh at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I see you guys are talking about my extension. Sorry I have been busy as
> of late. How can I help?
>
> Chris McIntosh
>
> On 12/13/05, Rowan Collins < rowan.collins at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 13/12/05, Jan Steinman < Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
> > > > Damn, I mean the server, of course.  How well does the OS X software
> > > > work with mediawiki markup?
> > >
> > > I'm not sure what you mean. It's Unix. "It Just Works"(TM).
> >
> > I think what was meant was does it barf every time you type <nowiki>,
> > or [[word|another word]], or some of the other odd strings of letters
> > and punctuation that make up wikitext?
> >
> > (The server-side spellchecker on LiveJournal is incredibly irritating
> > in this respect, because for instance the "href" in "<a href..." is
> > flagged as a misspelling every time, thus defeating the preview part
> > of "check spelling and preview"; I don't entirely blame the coders,
> > but it is very annoying)
> >
> > --
> > Rowan Collins BSc
> > [IMSoP]
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
>
>


From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Tue Dec 13 21:21:11 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 13:21:11 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Spell-checker
In-Reply-To: <20051213205003.EB5F31190F76@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051213205003.EB5F31190F76@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <0529653E-BD66-4A13-90E0-C6600694BCE9@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: Rowan Collins <rowan.collins at gmail.com>
> On 13/12/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
>>> Damn, I mean the server, of course.  How well does the OS X software
>>> work with mediawiki markup?
>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean. It's Unix. "It Just Works"(TM).
>
> I think what was meant was does it barf every time you type <nowiki>,
> or [[word|another word]], or some of the other odd strings of letters
> and punctuation that make up wikitext?

It's pretty good. It ignores anything inside XML-style tags and non- 
word-like text in general. And for that odd term of art, there's  
always highlighting the word, right-clicking, and picking either  
"Ignore Spelling" or "Learn Spelling." (I try not to do the latter  
unless I've checked another source!)


:::: Well, gotta get back to whatever it was I was avoiding... ::::
:::: Jan Steinman (http://www.IslandSeeds.org) ::::



From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec 13 23:38:32 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:38:32 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: boards2go spam attack
In-Reply-To: <04da01c60014$b168f730$880fa8c0@sterlings>
References: <2A86EFBE967DCA498DEDBCB0541E1796636B@zeus.assys.net>
	<04da01c60014$b168f730$880fa8c0@sterlings>
Message-ID: <e92136380512131538u7276c4f4r@mail.gmail.com>

It'll be ripped out on next edit, I should imagine.


Rob Church

On 13/12/05, Sterling D. Allan <sterlingda at pureenergysystems.com> wrote:
> What happens to pages where the <div command is already in place,
> legitimately?
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Arthur Guy" <Arthur at assys.net>
> To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list"
> <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 8:48 AM
> Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] Re: boards2go spam attack
>
>
> Isn't the overflow:auto attribute used within div tags?
> If it is then all you have to do is block <div.
>
> -Arthur
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Tor Kinlok
> Sent: 13 December 2005 15:37
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Re: boards2go spam attack
>
> Is there any way to block both '<div' and 'overflow:\s*auto'?
>
> We've been getting inundated with both.
>
> On Dec 13, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
>
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > once I set
> >
> > $wgSpamRegex="/<div/";
> >
> > I had no more automated spam attacks. This blocks users from entering
> > '<div', which might be bad, but I had no complaints yet.
> >
> > Patrick
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
>
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Wed Dec 14 01:12:34 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:12:34 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Spell-checker
In-Reply-To: <D4831B84-3977-4ED9-B2A3-44F024C2FA3E@Bytesmiths.com>
References: <20051213122423.AE8661158A2D@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<D4831B84-3977-4ED9-B2A3-44F024C2FA3E@Bytesmiths.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512131712o6b6be62cu8be5e1fb9e9b20f3@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/13/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:

> I do see the value of a collaboratively maintained dictionary. But
> I'm spoiled by "as you tpye^H^H^Hype" automatic spelling correction,
> and the thought of going back to batch spelling correction makes me
> think about flint knives and stone axes.

Sounds like it's time to start applying AJAX to the problem.

Hey Jan, maybe there are a few old Smalltalkers who could reimpliment
all of this stuff in Ruby! <G>


From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Wed Dec 14 01:13:57 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 20:13:57 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Spell-checker
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0512131712o6b6be62cu8be5e1fb9e9b20f3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051213122423.AE8661158A2D@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<D4831B84-3977-4ED9-B2A3-44F024C2FA3E@Bytesmiths.com>
	<deb2337a0512131712o6b6be62cu8be5e1fb9e9b20f3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512131713o74a9c9fwbe8d9b31c29c78e4@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/13/05, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/13/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
>
> > I do see the value of a collaboratively maintained dictionary. But
> > I'm spoiled by "as you tpye^H^H^Hype" automatic spelling correction,
> > and the thought of going back to batch spelling correction makes me
> > think about flint knives and stone axes.
>
> Sounds like it's time to start applying AJAX to the problem.
>
> Hey Jan, maybe there are a few old Smalltalkers who could reimpliment
reimplement
> all of this stuff in Ruby! <G>

Proving the value of real-time spell-checking!


--
Rick DeNatale

Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/


From mirko at raner.ws  Wed Dec 14 01:43:31 2005
From: mirko at raner.ws (Mirko Raner)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 17:43:31 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Mediazilla sources
Message-ID: <439F78C3.8040503@raner.ws>

Hi all,

I would like to add a Mediazilla front-end for my own bugzilla
installation. The site is running Bugzilla 2.20 and Mediawiki 1.4.7 with
slightly customized Monobook stylesheets.
 From what I understand, Mediazilla is just the original Bugzilla
Perl/CGI scripts with some minor modifications, so that the Mediawiki
stylesheets get used. But where can I find the source for the modified
scripts? Are they in the Wikipedia CVS on SourceForge? Can I simply
replace the original Bugzilla scripts with the Mediazilla scripts, or
are there additional adjustments that I need to make?

Thanks for any pointers,

Mirko




From mauro at carmo.ws  Wed Dec 14 02:50:29 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 18:50:29 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] delete complytely a page
In-Reply-To: <9f02ca4c0512130503wc0e4b95k@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20051214025037.34ED71AC1791@mail.wikimedia.org>

Thanks Rowan,

However, could one delete completely the revisions so that they would not be
kept in the database? I mean delete completely the content of 'Old table' of
a deleted page.

Thanks, mauro.

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rowan Collins
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 5:04 AM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] delete complytely a page

On 13/12/05, Mauro do Carmo <mauro at carmo.ws> wrote:
> This problem just pop up: How do I delete completely a page? I want to
> delete a page and its historical data all together.

If you're logged into an account with "sysop" status (one of these
should have been setup during install), there should be a "delete" tab
at the top of each page. The revisions will be kept in the database,
in case you made a mistake and want to undelete them later, but
ordinary users won't be able to see them, and the page will basically
cease to exist.

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From sterlingda at pureenergysystems.com  Wed Dec 14 06:32:14 2005
From: sterlingda at pureenergysystems.com (Sterling D. Allan)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:32:14 -0700
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: boards2go spam attack
References: <2A86EFBE967DCA498DEDBCB0541E1796636B@zeus.assys.net><04da01c60014$b168f730$880fa8c0@sterlings>
	<e92136380512131538u7276c4f4r@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <06b301c60078$1f4c08b0$880fa8c0@sterlings>

thanks.

"ripped out"?

what happens to the formatting it prescribes?

Sterling

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Church" <robchur at gmail.com>
To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" 
<mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Re: boards2go spam attack


It'll be ripped out on next edit, I should imagine.


Rob Church

On 13/12/05, Sterling D. Allan <sterlingda at pureenergysystems.com> wrote:
> What happens to pages where the <div command is already in place,
> legitimately? 




From arubin at atl.lmco.com  Wed Dec 14 06:49:13 2005
From: arubin at atl.lmco.com (Aron Rubin)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:49:13 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Spell-checker
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0512131712o6b6be62cu8be5e1fb9e9b20f3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051213122423.AE8661158A2D@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<D4831B84-3977-4ED9-B2A3-44F024C2FA3E@Bytesmiths.com>
	<deb2337a0512131712o6b6be62cu8be5e1fb9e9b20f3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <439FC069.6010307@atl.lmco.com>

Rick DeNatale wrote:
> Sounds like it's time to start applying AJAX to the problem.
>   
Well the Chris McIntosh spell checker is SJAX because there is no 
obvious reason to be asynchronous in this case. You can't do much until 
the spell check data is back.

Aron


From ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au  Wed Dec 14 07:15:36 2005
From: ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au (Laurie Lewis)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 18:15:36 +1100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] boards2go spam attack
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512130432p7c8d3221n@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001c6007e$2ead33a0$661aa8c0@airedale>


If you install the spamBlacklist extension it indicates that you should
put the following code into youe LocalSettings.php

require_once( "$IP/extensions/SpamBlacklist/SpamBlacklist.php" );
$wgSpamBlacklistFiles = array(
	"$IP/extensions/SpamBlacklist/wikimedia_blacklist", //
Wikimedia's list

//          database    title
	"DB: wikidb My_spam_blacklist",    
);

My question is if you have multiple wiki's using a shared database but
using language prefixes eg en_  How do you fill in the database section
above.

Laurie


-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2005 11:33 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] boards2go spam attack

It will help combat that particular spam attack, but it won't stop all
of them from all sources. Most wiki owners have to weigh up the
various options available to them in combating spam and spambots. One
option some take is to cripple editing for anonymous users, for
instance.

At the end of the day, what you do depends very much on how much you
can "get away with" without compromising the goal you set out to reach
with your wiki.


Rob Church

On 13/12/05, Laurie Lewis <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au> wrote:
> Does this mean that to stop the spam attacks I just have to add this
> line or is there some other things that have to be done as well?
>
> Laurie
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of admin
Yellowikis
> Sent: Tuesday, 13 December 2005 12:04 AM
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] boards2go spam attack
>
> $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:\s*auto/";
>
> Works fine.
>
> Paul
>
>
> On 12/12/05, admin Yellowikis <yellowikis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks Rick.
> >
> > On 12/12/05, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 12/12/05, admin Yellowikis <yellowikis at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > We've been attacked too - It also adds a long list of links to
> > > > http://buy-ativan.fil.ph lower on the page.
> > > >
> > > > we had:
> > > >
> > > >  $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
> > > >
> > > > in LocalSettings.php
> > > >
> > > > but an extra space has been added after the ...overflow:
auto....
> > > >
> > > > so now we have both
> > > >  $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
> > > >  $wgSpamRegex="/overflow: auto/";
> > >
> > > Of course since $wgSpamRegex is a scalar, only the second value
will
> > > be in effect, overwriting the first.
> > >
> > > I think that something like
> > >   $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:\s*auto/
> > >
> > > would work. The \s* matches zero or more whitespace characters.
> This
> > > might be slightly off since I'm not completely up on php regex
> pattern
> > > syntax.
> > > --
> > > Rick DeNatale
> > >
> > > Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
> > > http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Yellowikis is to Yellow Pages, as Wikipedia is to The Encyclopedia
> Britannica
> >
>
>
> --
> Yellowikis is to Yellow Pages, as Wikipedia is to The Encyclopedia
> Britannica
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From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Wed Dec 14 07:28:17 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:28:17 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: 1.5.2 problems with MySQL 5.0.16?
In-Reply-To: <20051213205003.EB5F31190F76@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051213205003.EB5F31190F76@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <A08B0173-51FC-4620-911F-AAEC4AB29142@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: Brion Vibber <brion.vibber at gmail.com>
>
> On 12/13/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
>> Yea, I briefly considered that, but the other sites (including MW1.4
>> sites) ARE working with MySQL 5, and this is a spankin' brand new
>> installation of MacOS X 10.4.3, complete with the latest patches.
>
> If those sites were installed under the old version of MySQL and you
> haven't done anything to change them, they'll still have the old-style
> passwords on their db user accounts.
>
> If you installed a new wiki under MySQL 5.0, it'll show

I'm pretty convinced it is not a password problem.

> PHP 4.x includes built-in libraries for MySQL 3.23.x, which is
> compatible with MySQL 4.0.x. MySQL 4.1.x changes the protocol a bit,
> most annoyingly in the authentication protocol. Please see the
> documentation on dev.mysql.com for more details there on workarounds
> if you need to use the old libraries.

I've spent all day researching this. The password issue -- and its  
work-arounds -- seems pretty well explained at:
   http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/old-client.html

I completely removed the password from the MediaWiki database,  
changing it as well in LocalSettings.php. And once again, I get the  
stack-dump.

So the stack dump I sent earlier is the true problem that I was  
masking by messing with the password. (I got the stack dump when I  
still had a MySQL 4 password, and only got the infamous "client does  
not support" message after changing the password.)

I verified on one of my MW 1.4 sites that putting a new password in  
causes a problem, and that doing the remedies in the above web page  
work. But not for the MW 1.5 site!

I also tried downloading and including a php function lib called  
"mysql2i.php" that purports to fix the problem, but it does not --  
same stack dump.

> If you recompile PHP against the updated MySQL libraries, it will be
> able to use the new-style passwords without problems.

But again, I don't think my particular problem has to do with this.

Here's the dump once again, which you can see for yourself at  
www.EcoReality.org . This is with NO password in either  
LocalSettings.php nor mysql.user.Password:

Error in fetchObject(): MySQL server has gone away
Backtrace:
	GlobalFunctions.php line 451 calls wfbacktrace()
	Database.php line 531 calls wfdebugdiebacktrace()
	MessageCache.php line 151 calls databasemysql::fetchobject()
	MessageCache.php line 94 calls messagecache::loadfromdb()
	MessageCache.php line 247 calls messagecache::load()
	GlobalFunctions.php line 342 calls messagecache::get()
	GlobalFunctions.php line 322 calls wfmsggetkey()
	GlobalFunctions.php line 297 calls wfmsgreal()
	OutputPage.php line 657 calls wfmsgnodb()
	Database.php line 411 calls outputpage::databaseerror()
	Database.php line 358 calls databasemysql::reportqueryerror()
	BagOStuff.php line 382 calls databasemysql::query()
	BagOStuff.php line 279 calls mediawikibagostuff::_doquery()
	BagOStuff.php line 228 calls mediawikibagostuff::_query()
	MessageCache.php line 83 calls mediawikibagostuff::get()
	MessageCache.php line 247 calls messagecache::load()
	GlobalFunctions.php line 342 calls messagecache::get()
	GlobalFunctions.php line 322 calls wfmsggetkey()
	GlobalFunctions.php line 288 calls wfmsgreal()
	index.php line 77 calls wfmsgforcontent()



:::: I reject your reality and replace it with my own. -- Kelly O'Toole
:::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van>




From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Wed Dec 14 07:35:50 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:35:50 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Spell-checker
In-Reply-To: <20051214071549.488581350967@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051214071549.488581350967@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <5F719CB4-D026-401B-BEE9-17C2BC649A24@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com>
>
> Hey Jan, maybe there are a few old Smalltalkers who could reimpliment
> all of this stuff in Ruby! <G>

Hey, you said you wouldn't tell anyone! <grin>

:::: Well, gotta get back to whatever it was I was avoiding... ::::
:::: Jan Steinman (http://www.IslandSeeds.org) ::::



From sterlingda at pureenergysystems.com  Wed Dec 14 07:39:24 2005
From: sterlingda at pureenergysystems.com (Sterling D. Allan)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:39:24 -0700
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: boards2go spam attack
References: <013a01c5fed2$67e89450$880fa8c0@sterlings><m2irttax0g.fsf@levana.de><8C34D8D6-EAC1-4A52-9605-F2171E17B447@superman.ws>
	<439F155B.7000400@atl.lmco.com>
Message-ID: <072501c60081$8270f5a0$880fa8c0@sterlings>

I prefer not to disable <div>

So far, by adding

 $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
 $wgSpamRegex="/overflow: auto/";
 $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:\s*auto/";

in my LocalSettings.php, the spam attacks have not persisted, at least not 
this particular brand.

Sterling
http://peswiki.com


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aron Rubin" <arubin at atl.lmco.com>
To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" 
<mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org>
Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 11:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Re: boards2go spam attack


Tor Kinlok wrote:
> Is there any way to block both '<div' and 'overflow:\s*auto'?
>
> We've been getting inundated with both.
>
$wgSpamRegex="/(<div|overflow:[ \t\n]*auto)/";

or did you mean:

$wgSpamRegex="/<div([^>]|[^\\]\\>)*overflow:[ \t\n]*auto)/";

> On Dec 13, 2005, at 9:31 AM, Patrick Gundlach wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> once I set
>>
>> $wgSpamRegex="/<div/";
>>
>> I had no more automated spam attacks. This blocks users from entering
>> '<div', which might be bad, but I had no complaints yet.
>>
>> Patrick
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From brion at pobox.com  Wed Dec 14 07:40:45 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:40:45 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] delete complytely a page
In-Reply-To: <20051214025037.34ED71AC1791@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051214025037.34ED71AC1791@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <439FCC7D.40601@pobox.com>

Mauro do Carmo wrote:
> However, could one delete completely the revisions so that they would not be
> kept in the database? I mean delete completely the content of 'Old table' of
> a deleted page.

MediaWiki is designed to retain data, so actions can be cleanly undone.

If you for some reason need to permanently remove things from the database, you
can manipulate the database in MySQL directly. See maintenance/tables.sql for
the annotated schema definitions.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From karen at vacanti.org  Mon Dec 12 13:28:15 2005
From: karen at vacanti.org (Karen O'Flaherty)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 14:28:15 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] hiding bureaucrat  log
Message-ID: <439D7AEF.6080502@vacanti.org>

Is it possible to hide the bureaucrat log on the Special:Recentchanges 
page from ordinary users? I don't really want everyone to see when I 
change user rights for some of the users.

Thanks,
Karen.


From reinhardt.wiewe at lenauschule.de  Mon Dec 12 08:47:27 2005
From: reinhardt.wiewe at lenauschule.de (Reinhardt Wiewe)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 09:47:27 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaZilla dependencies
Message-ID: <005901c5fef9$3fdff1c0$561cfea9@gangleri>

Hallo!

Question: Should depndencies at bug 
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4256 be included:
depends on
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2045
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2475

best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
irc://irc.freenode.net/mediawiki
irc://irc.freenode.net/wiktionary
ICQ: 317732084 



From igtorque at eliop.es  Mon Dec 12 09:08:59 2005
From: igtorque at eliop.es (Ignacio Gonzalez T.)
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 10:08:59 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Installation problems: 
Message-ID: <439D4C3B.15923.E88FCBC@localhost>

Hello everybody.

Server platform: WinNT 4.0 SP6
Server software: DeveloperSide.NET's Web-Server Suite, made of:
    * Apache 2.0.54
    * Perl 5.8.7
    * mod_perl 2.0.1
    * PHP 5.0.5
    * MySQL 4.1.14
          o DBI
          o DBD::mysql
          o DBD::mysqlPP
          o Net::MySQL
    * phpMyAdmin 2.6.4-pl1
    * analog 6.0

Server up and running, all tests passed.

Trying to install MediaWiki 1.5.3

Had to change php.ini in order to use php_mysql.dll instead of 
php_mysqli.dll. This solves a first problem (MediaWiki installation script 
couldn't call successfully any mysql functions). But now there is a problem 
remaining:

<MediaWiki installation results>

MediaWiki 1.5.3 installation

Please include all of the lines below when reporting installation problems.
Checking environment...

    * PHP 5.0.5: ok
    * PHP server API is apache2handler; ok, using pretty URLs (index.php/Page_Title)
    * Have XML / Latin1-UTF-8 conversion support.
    * PHP is configured with no memory_limit.
    * Have zlib support; enabling output compression.
    * Neither Turck MMCache nor eAccelerator are installed, can't use object caching functions
    * GNU diff3 not found.
    * Couldn't find GD library or ImageMagick; image thumbnailing disabled.
    * Installation directory: D:\www\webroot\wiki
    * Script URI path: /wiki
    * Warning: $wgSecretKey key is insecure, generated with mt_rand(). Consider changing it manually.

      Warning: chdir() [function.chdir]: No such file or directory (errno 2) in D:\www\webroot\wiki\config\index.php on line 471
    * Trying to connect to MySQL on localhost as root...
          o Connected as root (automatic)
    * Connected to 4.1.14-nt-max-log; enabling MySQL 4 enhancements
    * Warning: $wgSecretKey key is insecure, generated with mt_rand(). Consider changing it manually.
    * Database wikidb exists
    * Creating tables... using MySQL 3/4 table defs...
      Warning: fopen(../maintenance/tables.sql) [function.fopen]: failed to open stream: No such file or directory in D:\www\webroot\wiki\install-utils.inc on line 95
      Could not open "../maintenance/tables.sql". 

</MediaWiki installation results>

It seems that something is going wrong with the paths (look at the warning 
after chdir). Maybe the problem has to do with having the wiki directory in 
D:\ insetad of C:\ ? The structure is:  

D:\www
D:\www\Apache2
D:\www\mysql
D:\www\php5
D:\www\webroot   ==> http://myserver
D:\www\webroot\wiki

etc.

I have checked that D:\www\webroot\wiki\maintenance\tables.sql exists

Any ideas?

Many thanks
-- 
Saludos,
  Ignacio Gonz?lez Torquemada
  ELIOP, S.A.                Departamento de Productos
  http://www.eliop.es       mailto:igtorque at eliop.es
  Tel. +34 91 383 57 47   Fax. +34 91 302 92 49




From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Wed Dec 14 07:53:33 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2005 23:53:33 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: 1.5.2 problems with MySQL 5.0.16?
In-Reply-To: <20051213205003.EB5F31190F76@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051213205003.EB5F31190F76@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <316ED64C-BE68-4F9E-BD4A-AFF5021B7C12@Bytesmiths.com>

One thing I discovered on one of my other sites is how TIMESTAMP  
values are returned.

Under MySQL 4.0.16, they were returned as "YYYYMMDDHHMMSS", under  
MySQL 5.0.16, it's "YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS". (Thanks, guys.)-:

At least this is different between the two when you mysql_fetch_array 
() TIMESTAMP values, because I write the result unadorned to a  
preferences file for another website client, and it normally goes out  
as an integer, which is read back in like "$Updated =  
20051213210957;" but totally screws up when it tries to read back in  
"$Updated = 2005-12-13 21:09:57;"

Do those of you who leap tall buildings with a single bound and  
instantly grok stack dumps see how this particular gotcha could be  
causing my stack dump?

:::: Hydrogen power will dramatically reduce greenhouse gas  
admissions. -- George W. Bush
:::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van>




From robchur at gmail.com  Wed Dec 14 13:28:04 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:28:04 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaZilla dependencies
In-Reply-To: <005901c5fef9$3fdff1c0$561cfea9@gangleri>
References: <005901c5fef9$3fdff1c0$561cfea9@gangleri>
Message-ID: <e92136380512140528n24e1429eq@mail.gmail.com>

All three bugs are closed, either resolved, or invalid, so it makes no
odds. I wouldn't clog up people's inboxes with changes to older bugs
on a regular basis, to be honest.


Rob Church

On 12/12/05, Reinhardt Wiewe <reinhardt.wiewe at lenauschule.de> wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> Question: Should depndencies at bug
> http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4256 be included:
> depends on
> http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2045
> http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2475
>
> best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
> irc://irc.freenode.net/mediawiki
> irc://irc.freenode.net/wiktionary
> ICQ: 317732084
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Wed Dec 14 13:29:31 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:29:31 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: boards2go spam attack
In-Reply-To: <06b301c60078$1f4c08b0$880fa8c0@sterlings>
References: <2A86EFBE967DCA498DEDBCB0541E1796636B@zeus.assys.net>
	<04da01c60014$b168f730$880fa8c0@sterlings>
	<e92136380512131538u7276c4f4r@mail.gmail.com>
	<06b301c60078$1f4c08b0$880fa8c0@sterlings>
Message-ID: <e92136380512140529j499869n@mail.gmail.com>

"Ripped out" as in, the edit won't be saved due to the presence of the
<div> tag. The formatting will remain as-is until that time.


Rob Church

On 14/12/05, Sterling D. Allan <sterlingda at pureenergysystems.com> wrote:
> thanks.
>
> "ripped out"?
>
> what happens to the formatting it prescribes?
>
> Sterling
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Church" <robchur at gmail.com>
> To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list"
> <mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2005 4:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Re: boards2go spam attack
>
>
> It'll be ripped out on next edit, I should imagine.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 13/12/05, Sterling D. Allan <sterlingda at pureenergysystems.com> wrote:
> > What happens to pages where the <div command is already in place,
> > legitimately?
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Wed Dec 14 21:00:19 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 13:00:19 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: 1.5.2 problems with MySQL 5.0.16?
In-Reply-To: <20051214133017.7D890135098C@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051214133017.7D890135098C@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <AE7DFE83-289A-4435-8A4A-3308124F98A0@Bytesmiths.com>

Okay, it looks like MySQL is crashing each time the MW 1.5 stack  
trace happens. I have no idea why.

 From the CrashDump log, it looks like /usr/lib/libMathCommon.A.dylib  
is crashing.

At this time, it would seem I have a problem with MySQL, rather than  
MW 1.5 -- although it is odd that MW 1.5 is the ONLY app that causes  
MySQL to crash -- MW 1.4 works fine, as does phpMyAdmin and a dozen  
artist/gallery sites I developed!

I don't imagine the following means anything to anyone, but it's been  
about 20 years since I crawled through dumps, so any help or ideas  
appreciated!

Exception:  EXC_BAD_ACCESS (0x0001)
Codes:      KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE (0x0002) at 0x00000000

Thread 0:
0   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9001f20c select + 12
1   mysqld            	0x0006e4e0 0x1000 + 447712
2   mysqld            	0x0006f5d4 0x1000 + 452052
3   mysqld            	0x00001ec0 0x1000 + 3776
4   mysqld            	0x00001d68 0x1000 + 3432

Thread 1:
0   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9002b8a8 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 8
1   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9003001c pthread_cond_wait + 488
2   mysqld            	0x00241108 0x1000 + 2359560
3   mysqld            	0x002402a0 0x1000 + 2355872
4   mysqld            	0x0020ce94 0x1000 + 2145940
5   mysqld            	0x00164650 0x1000 + 1455696
6   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9002b200 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 2:
0   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9002b8a8 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 8
1   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9003001c pthread_cond_wait + 488
2   mysqld            	0x00241108 0x1000 + 2359560
3   mysqld            	0x002402a0 0x1000 + 2355872
4   mysqld            	0x0020ce94 0x1000 + 2145940
5   mysqld            	0x00164650 0x1000 + 1455696
6   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9002b200 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 3:
0   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9002b8a8 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 8
1   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9003001c pthread_cond_wait + 488
2   mysqld            	0x00241108 0x1000 + 2359560
3   mysqld            	0x002402a0 0x1000 + 2355872
4   mysqld            	0x0020ce94 0x1000 + 2145940
5   mysqld            	0x00164650 0x1000 + 1455696
6   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9002b200 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 4:
0   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9002b8a8 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 8
1   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9003001c pthread_cond_wait + 488
2   mysqld            	0x00241108 0x1000 + 2359560
3   mysqld            	0x002402a0 0x1000 + 2355872
4   mysqld            	0x0020ce94 0x1000 + 2145940
5   mysqld            	0x00164650 0x1000 + 1455696
6   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9002b200 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 5:
0   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9001f20c select + 12
1   mysqld            	0x00241c24 0x1000 + 2362404
2   mysqld            	0x001609ec 0x1000 + 1440236
3   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9002b200 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 6:
0   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9001f20c select + 12
1   mysqld            	0x00241c24 0x1000 + 2362404
2   mysqld            	0x00161220 0x1000 + 1442336
3   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9002b200 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 7:
0   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9002b8a8 semaphore_wait_signal_trap + 8
1   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9003001c pthread_cond_wait + 488
2   mysqld            	0x00241108 0x1000 + 2359560
3   mysqld            	0x00162310 0x1000 + 1446672
4   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9002b200 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 8:
0   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x900c44a0 sigwait + 12
1   mysqld            	0x0006a8c0 0x1000 + 432320
2   libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9002b200 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 9 Crashed:
0   mysqld            	0x0018597c 0x1000 + 1591676
1   mysqld            	0x0018d5f0 0x1000 + 1623536
2   mysqld            	0x0010453c 0x1000 + 1062204
3   mysqld            	0x000b1b48 0x1000 + 723784
4   mysqld            	0x000b1d60 0x1000 + 724320
5   mysqld            	0x000b2cf4 0x1000 + 728308
6   mysqld            	0x000b3e74 0x1000 + 732788
7   mysqld            	0x000b68f8 0x1000 + 743672
8   mysqld            	0x000b9618 0x1000 + 755224
9   mysqld            	0x0007ccc8 0x1000 + 507080
10  mysqld            	0x00081c78 0x1000 + 527480
11  mysqld            	0x00082330 0x1000 + 529200
12  mysqld            	0x000838ec 0x1000 + 534764
13  libSystem.B.dylib 	0x9002b200 _pthread_body + 96

Thread 9 crashed with PPC Thread State 64:
   srr0: 0x000000000018597c srr1:  
0x000000000200f030                        vrsave: 0x0000000000000000
     cr: 0x22022224          xer: 0x0000000000000004   lr:  
0x0000000000185970  ctr: 0x0000000090001350
     r0: 0x0000000000185970   r1: 0x00000000f0499d10   r2:  
0x0000000000000000   r3: 0x0000000000000188
     r4: 0x0000000000000000   r5: 0x0000000000000188   r6:  
0x00000000ffffffff   r7: 0x0000000000000188
     r8: 0x000000000000000a   r9: 0x00000000003dbf14  r10:  
0x0000000000000029  r11: 0x00000000a000620c
    r12: 0x0000000090001350  r13: 0x0000000001901e48  r14:  
0x000000000141ec60  r15: 0x0000000001423c60
    r16: 0x00000000000000ff  r17: 0x00000000018f4138  r18:  
0x00000000004cd364  r19: 0x0000000001419260
    r20: 0x0000000000000000  r21: 0x0000000001901f47  r22:  
0x0000000000000000  r23: 0x00000000018f4237
    r24: 0x0000000001419468  r25: 0x0000000000000000  r26:  
0x0000000001423c7c  r27: 0x0000000001423c7c
    r28: 0x0000000001901e48  r29: 0x0000000001423c84  r30:  
0x00000000018f4138  r31: 0x0000000000185838

Binary Images Description:
     0x1000 -   0x3c6fff mysqld 	/usr/local/mysql/bin/mysqld
0x8fe00000 - 0x8fe54fff dyld 44.2	/usr/lib/dyld
0x90000000 - 0x901b3fff libSystem.B.dylib 	/usr/lib/libSystem.B.dylib
0x9020b000 - 0x9020ffff libmathCommon.A.dylib 	/usr/lib/system/ 
libmathCommon.A.dylib

:::: I told the world that Iraq, contrary to your claims, did not  
have weapons of mass destruction. I told the world, contrary to your  
claims, that Iraq had no connection to Al Qaeda. I told the world,  
contrary to your claims, that Iraq had no connection to the atrocity  
on 9/11, 2001. I told the world, contrary to your claims, that the  
Iraqi people would resist a British and American invasion of their  
country and that the fall of Baghdad would not be the beginning of  
the end but merely the end of the beginning. Senator [Norm Coleman, R- 
MN], in everything I said about Iraq, I turned out to be right and  
you turned out to be wrong, and 100,000 people paid with their lives;  
1,600 of them American soldiers sent to their deaths on a pack of  
lies; 15,000 of them wounded, many of them disabled forever on a pack  
of lies. -- George Galloway, UK Member of Parliament ::::

:::: Jan Steinman http://www.IslandSeeds.org ::::





From sy1234 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 14 23:09:58 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:09:58 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] captcha in 1.5+
In-Reply-To: <dnd7bi$921$1@sea.gmane.org>
References: <dnd7bi$921$1@sea.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512141509i4bbe8057ub7df4c35ed1145bf@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/10/05, FxParlant <f-x.p at laposte.net> wrote:
> http://www.fxparlant.net/Mediawiki_Calendar

Crap.. I wish I knew about that before I went ahead and made my own
with a monstrous amount of templating.  =)


From sy1234 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 14 23:25:44 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 23:25:44 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: boards2go spam attack
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512140529j499869n@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2A86EFBE967DCA498DEDBCB0541E1796636B@zeus.assys.net>
	<04da01c60014$b168f730$880fa8c0@sterlings>
	<e92136380512131538u7276c4f4r@mail.gmail.com>
	<06b301c60078$1f4c08b0$880fa8c0@sterlings>
	<e92136380512140529j499869n@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512141525n206306bey711ae7c348e3c0bc@mail.gmail.com>

> On 14/12/05, Sterling D. Allan <sterlingda at pureenergysystems.com> wrote:
> > thanks.
> >
> > "ripped out"?
> >
> > what happens to the formatting it prescribes?

On 12/14/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> "Ripped out" as in, the edit won't be saved due to the presence of the
> <div> tag. The formatting will remain as-is until that time.

If <div is blacklisted, then any page which is re-edited which has
<div in it will not be allowed to be saved.  MediaWiki will state
this, and then quote what triggered the edit-ban.

I have <div banned and there is *no* problem whatsoever, except..

I customized MediaWiki:Monobook.css (which doesn't really work, but
that's besides the point).  If I wanted to edit this particular page,
then I'd have to edit my LocalSettings.php to be able to save any
changes.

Other than that, there is no difficulty with banning something which
is already in use.

As a side-effect, it forces users to tidy up pages before making
random additions.  =)


From ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au  Wed Dec 14 23:47:24 2005
From: ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au (Laurie Lewis)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:47:24 +1100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Small Wiki Farm
Message-ID: <000001c60108$bc3c9190$661aa8c0@airedale>

Sorry but any assistance gratefully accepted.  I am very new to this and
trying to set up a number of wikis on the one site.  All of them will
deal with the same topic they are just in different languages.  I have
been playing around with it for a while but seem to just keep breaking
it.  I also found this article but I am having some problems following
it.

How do I create a small wiki farm?

After copying the mediawiki source tree in /opt/mediawiki/ you need to
run something like:
 mkdir .../wiki
 cd .../wiki
 mkdir images
 ln -s /opt/mediawiki/languages /opt/mediawiki/maintenance \
   /opt/mediawiki/skins /opt/mediawiki/redirect.php .
 cp -a /opt/mediawiki/config/ .
 chown www-data: config/
 cp /opt/mediawiki/index.php index.php
Then add /opt/mediawiki to the commands which set the include_path in
config/index.php and add something like this to the main index.php:
 ini_set( "include_path", "/opt/mediawiki:." ); # line added
 require_once( 'includes/Defines.php' ); # this line used to include
'./includes/Defines.php'
*	make sure your webserver can read from /opt/mediawiki
 
 
What I have done so far.
 
Mkdir mediawiki      //Placed all the mediawiki files into this
directory
 
Created directories for 
French
Danish
Spanish
German
 
Using root directory for English
 
Created symbolic links for all files and directories in /mediawiki in
each language based directory
Ran the installation process for each language based wiki  and moved
LocalSettings.php
For each wiki I am using a separate database as when I tried to use one
database with prefixes it did not work -  It would not show appropriate
languages for each wiki but got stuck on one.
 
The only settings that different in each of the wiki's is basically the
languagecode and databasename.  I have tried moving nearly all the
settings from the LocalSettings.php to a CommonSettings.php file and
calling it with an include_once statement but this just seems to break
things also.
 
Can anyone give me some very simple instructions on how to do this.
 
Thanks
 
Laurie
 


From a.schadow at hahnfilm.de  Wed Dec 14 11:07:26 2005
From: a.schadow at hahnfilm.de (=?ISO-8859-15?Q?Andr=E9_Schadow?=)
Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 12:07:26 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Installation Problems
Message-ID: <439FFCEE.4030504@hahnfilm.de>

Hi there,

I tried to setup MediaWiki on my web server. My configuration:

SUSE Linux 10.0
Apache 2
PHP 4.4.0
MySQL-Version 4.1.13

After uploading it to the document root directory I tried to begin the 
setup process but I got error message like that:

Warning: main(includes/SiteConfiguration.php): failed to open stream: No 
such file or directory in 
/srv/www/htdocs/wiki/includes/DefaultSettings.php on line 27

Fatal error: main(): Failed opening required 
'includes/SiteConfiguration.php' (include_path='/usr/share/php') in 
/srv/www/htdocs/wiki/includes/DefaultSettings.php on line 27


What can I do?

Thanks,
Andr?



From fun at thingy.apana.org.au  Thu Dec 15 00:12:29 2005
From: fun at thingy.apana.org.au (David Gerard)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 00:12:29 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] captcha in 1.5+
In-Reply-To: <1e55af990512141509i4bbe8057ub7df4c35ed1145bf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dnd7bi$921$1@sea.gmane.org>
	<1e55af990512141509i4bbe8057ub7df4c35ed1145bf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43A0B4ED.2080101@thingy.apana.org.au>

Sy Ali wrote:
> On 12/10/05, FxParlant <f-x.p at laposte.net> wrote:

>>http://www.fxparlant.net/Mediawiki_Calendar

> Crap.. I wish I knew about that before I went ahead and made my own
> with a monstrous amount of templating.  =)


There's a big thread on wikitech-l about Stupid Template Tricks.

I just really hope no-one ever makes templating Turing-complete.


- d.




From T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de  Thu Dec 15 09:13:08 2005
From: T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de (Vasiliadis, Thomas)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:13:08 +0100
Subject: AW: [Mediawiki-l] Files extensions
Message-ID: <D44B7B2E5EDC0C44A023008CF062E4000F82D5@server.worms.schlemmerblock.de>

All modifikations are up to made in the localSettings.php

To activate teh Upload activate the line wich contains: 

"$wgEnableUploads		= true;"

To deacitvate the extension controll completly add the line : 

"$wgStrictFileExtensions = false;"

Beware! ALL kind of files are updateable now!
If you would like to upload only a few kind of files like images and doc files you dont have to add the line above, instead add:

"$wgFileExtensions = array( 'png', 'gif', 'jpg', 'jpeg', 'doc' ); "

And add all extensions you need, which is a bit more safty.
 

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Rob Church
Gesendet: Montag, 12. Dezember 2005 18:01
An: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Betreff: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Files extensions

$wgStrictFileExtensions = false in LocalSettings.php


Rob Church

On 12/12/05, Simon Renshaw <simon at castortech.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> If I want to allow any kind of files to be uploaded, I just need to add:
>
> $wgVerifyMimeType = false;
>
> To LocalSettings.php?
>
> Thanks!
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
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From T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de  Thu Dec 15 09:28:36 2005
From: T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de (Vasiliadis, Thomas)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:28:36 +0100
Subject: AW: [Mediawiki-l] Are there any restrictions for a MediaWiki
	runningon MS IIS?
Message-ID: <D44B7B2E5EDC0C44A023008CF062E4000F82D6@server.worms.schlemmerblock.de>

Thanks for your time, but I've solved the Problem with reinstalling the Wiki on an Apache Server.

But I've followed the instructions.
With doesn't react anymore i ment, that the browser is trying to load the next page (after hit "save") and will never get any page. Not even after a nighttime!
I suppose, that the problem was based on the codepages used by the IIS.
If I created an article using SQL, I was able to  use the special characters, but Wiki had shown me funny ones instead.
If I created an article using the Wiki, the article was saved in the database, but instead of the special characters there where funny ones (e.g. ?=>?).
So it seams to me, that the Database can use this characters, and Wiki can it also, but the IIS can't.

T.Vasiliadis


-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Rob Church
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 1. Dezember 2005 11:16
An: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Betreff: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Are there any restrictions for a MediaWiki runningon MS IIS?

When you say, "wiki doesn't react any more", can you elaborate on
that, since it could mean a number of things. What happens to make you
say that?

The characters look peculiar due to character set issues, I would
image, but they should be stored without any problems. When you
upgraded, did you follow the instructions in the upgrade document?

On the subject of upgrades; can you be specific about what problems
occur under which version of MediaWiki? Also, have you *ever* had this
wiki running - i.e. did these issues start after upgrading to 1.5.1,
or have you always had this issue?


Rob Church

On 01/12/05, Vasiliadis, Thomas <T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> Im running an MediaWiki 1.5.1 with PHP 5.0.5 (isapi) and MySQL 5.0.15-nt on an MS IIS (InternetInformationServer).
> I have some troubles with it:
> If I try to use a "Umlaut" (german special character like ?,?,?) in the articel name, the articel will be saved if I hit the save button, but Wiki doesn't react anymore.
> If i try to load such an article, it is the same.
> In the Database on the server are funny characters instat of the Umlaute I have used.
> If I take a lock with phpMyAdmin from my PC the characters seems pretty OK.
> The tabels are all utf8-gerneral_ci and the database itself latin1_swedish_ci (don't ask me why swedish).
> The type of the tables are mostly "InnoDB". Searchindex is "MyISAM" an hitcounter is "MEMORY" (with a unknown amount of datasets inside).
>
> Ive tryed to update the whole wiki to 1.5.2, since then i am unable to delete an articel (which worked fine before). Downgrading to 1.5.1 makes no change to this.
>
> Have anybody any suggestions?
>
> TV
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
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From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec 15 11:09:53 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:09:53 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Installation Problems
In-Reply-To: <439FFCEE.4030504@hahnfilm.de>
References: <439FFCEE.4030504@hahnfilm.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512150309t3456fcb4x@mail.gmail.com>

To start with the obvious...does the file exist? Can the web server
process read it?


Rob Church

On 14/12/05, Andr? Schadow <a.schadow at hahnfilm.de> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
> I tried to setup MediaWiki on my web server. My configuration:
>
> SUSE Linux 10.0
> Apache 2
> PHP 4.4.0
> MySQL-Version 4.1.13
>
> After uploading it to the document root directory I tried to begin the
> setup process but I got error message like that:
>
> Warning: main(includes/SiteConfiguration.php): failed to open stream: No
> such file or directory in
> /srv/www/htdocs/wiki/includes/DefaultSettings.php on line 27
>
> Fatal error: main(): Failed opening required
> 'includes/SiteConfiguration.php' (include_path='/usr/share/php') in
> /srv/www/htdocs/wiki/includes/DefaultSettings.php on line 27
>
>
> What can I do?
>
> Thanks,
> Andr?
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From realjaencf at yahoo.es  Thu Dec 15 12:00:22 2005
From: realjaencf at yahoo.es (Manuel Chica Serrano)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:00:22 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] more complex actions in MEDIAWIKI
Message-ID: <002001c6016f$2267e670$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>

Hello!! I've installed and configured a MediaWiki site and i don't know if it's possible 
add forms to a wiki page, javascript or include php code. 
I can't do this directly in Edit Page...
What can I do???

Thanks!! 
Bye


From jaroslaw at linux.org.ua  Thu Dec 15 12:04:57 2005
From: jaroslaw at linux.org.ua (Yaroslav Fedevych)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:04:57 +0200
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] more complex actions in MEDIAWIKI
In-Reply-To: <002001c6016f$2267e670$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>
References: <002001c6016f$2267e670$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>
Message-ID: <20051215120457.GA4694@fly.osdn.org.ua>

On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 01:00:22PM +0100, Manuel Chica Serrano wrote:
> Hello!! I've installed and configured a MediaWiki site and i don't know if it's possible 
> add forms to a wiki page, javascript or include php code. 
> I can't do this directly in Edit Page...
> What can I do???
> 

You cannot add forms, javascript and php code directly into a wiki page.
For this, you should probably find another CMS.

-- 
?? ??????? ? ?????????? -- ?? ??????? ?????.
	(?? ????? ????? ???'????, ???)



From realjaencf at yahoo.es  Thu Dec 15 12:12:50 2005
From: realjaencf at yahoo.es (Manuel Chica Serrano)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:12:50 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] more complex actions in MEDIAWIKI
References: <002001c6016f$2267e670$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>
	<20051215120457.GA4694@fly.osdn.org.ua>
Message-ID: <004101c60170$e08e60b0$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>

Hello!!
What does CMS mean??
Are you sure that doesn't exist any method to add php code or cgi ... in 
wiki pages??
Thanks!!

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Yaroslav Fedevych" <jaroslaw at linux.org.ua>
To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" 
<mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org>
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] more complex actions in MEDIAWIKI


> On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 01:00:22PM +0100, Manuel Chica Serrano wrote:
>> Hello!! I've installed and configured a MediaWiki site and i don't know 
>> if it's possible
>> add forms to a wiki page, javascript or include php code.
>> I can't do this directly in Edit Page...
>> What can I do???
>>
>
> You cannot add forms, javascript and php code directly into a wiki page.
> For this, you should probably find another CMS.
>
> -- 
> ?? ??????? ? ?????????? -- ?? ??????? ?????.
> (?? ????? ????? ???'????, ???)
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> 



		
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http://correo.yahoo.es


From jaroslaw at linux.org.ua  Thu Dec 15 12:20:18 2005
From: jaroslaw at linux.org.ua (Yaroslav Fedevych)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:20:18 +0200
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] more complex actions in MEDIAWIKI
In-Reply-To: <004101c60170$e08e60b0$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>
References: <002001c6016f$2267e670$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>
	<20051215120457.GA4694@fly.osdn.org.ua>
	<004101c60170$e08e60b0$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>
Message-ID: <20051215122018.GA5689@fly.osdn.org.ua>

On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 01:12:50PM +0100, Manuel Chica Serrano wrote:
> Hello!!
> What does CMS mean??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Content_management_system

> Are you sure that doesn't exist any method to add php code or cgi ... in 
> wiki pages??

Sure. If you want to add php code, you add it to php code. If you write a wiki
page, you write a wiki page and that's all to it.

> Thanks!!

You're welcome.


-- 
X windows: Gratuitous incompatibility.



From karunakar at randomink.org  Thu Dec 15 12:24:33 2005
From: karunakar at randomink.org (Guntupalli Karunakar)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:54:33 +0530
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] removing auto blocking?
Message-ID: <20051215175433.501ee935.karunakar@randomink.org>

Hi,
  I am having this problem with my wiki (http://indlinux.org/wiki) ,
where if two usernames login from same IP address, the usernames get
autoblocked. what could be the solution? do i have some settings
wrong? typically to prevent spam, we have captcha implemented at
login time.

Karunakar

-- 

*************************************
* Work: http://www.indlinux.org     *
* Blog: http://cartoonsoft.com/blog *
*************************************


From realjaencf at yahoo.es  Thu Dec 15 12:46:32 2005
From: realjaencf at yahoo.es (Manuel Chica Serrano)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:46:32 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] problems with anonymous permission
Message-ID: <00d301c60175$95091680$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>

Hi!
I use MediaWiki 1.5 and spanish language; I've a problem with anonymous read permission. If I write this lines in LocalSettings.php, an anonymous user will view all the following pages exception Especial:Search, SiMiDa:General_disclaimer and SiMiDa:Acerca_de. why anonymous user can view all except this 3 pages??

$wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['read']  = false;

$wgWhitelistRead = array ("Portada","SiMiDa:Miembros","SiMiDa:Lineas","SiMiDa:Publicaciones","SiMiDa:Proyectos",
  "SiMiDa:Seminarios", "SiMiDa:Enlaces", "SiMiDa:Docencia", "SiMiDa:KEEL", 
  "SiMiDa:Ayuda","SiMiDa:Acerca_de", "Especial:Search", "Especial:Userlogin", "SiMiDa:General_disclaimer");

The names of the pages are correctly written. And registered users can view all pages.

Thanks from Spain!!!
Bye


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec 15 13:36:20 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:36:20 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] removing auto blocking?
In-Reply-To: <20051215175433.501ee935.karunakar@randomink.org>
References: <20051215175433.501ee935.karunakar@randomink.org>
Message-ID: <e92136380512150536t7a8f5bdfv@mail.gmail.com>

That's how the autoblocker works. You can effectively disable it,
should you wish, by setting $wgAutoblockExpiry = 1 in
LocalSettings.php, which causes all auto-blocks to expire after one
second.


Rob Church

On 15/12/05, Guntupalli Karunakar <karunakar at randomink.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>   I am having this problem with my wiki (http://indlinux.org/wiki) ,
> where if two usernames login from same IP address, the usernames get
> autoblocked. what could be the solution? do i have some settings
> wrong? typically to prevent spam, we have captcha implemented at
> login time.
>
> Karunakar
>
> --
>
> *************************************
> * Work: http://www.indlinux.org     *
> * Blog: http://cartoonsoft.com/blog *
> *************************************
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec 15 13:38:39 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:38:39 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] more complex actions in MEDIAWIKI
In-Reply-To: <004101c60170$e08e60b0$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>
References: <002001c6016f$2267e670$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>
	<20051215120457.GA4694@fly.osdn.org.ua>
	<004101c60170$e08e60b0$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>
Message-ID: <e92136380512150538m38c5a7b6j@mail.gmail.com>

You appear to need to find out what a CMS is, since it sounds like
that's what you require, not a wiki engine. Adding PHP code or CGI in
wiki pages and having it executed would be nothing short of a security
vulnerability.

If you wish to customise the MediaWiki software, then that's a matter
of editing the PHP scripts which run it.


Rob Church

On 15/12/05, Manuel Chica Serrano <realjaencf at yahoo.es> wrote:
> Hello!!
> What does CMS mean??
> Are you sure that doesn't exist any method to add php code or cgi ... in
> wiki pages??
> Thanks!!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Yaroslav Fedevych" <jaroslaw at linux.org.ua>
> To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list"
> <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:04 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] more complex actions in MEDIAWIKI
>
>
> > On Thu, Dec 15, 2005 at 01:00:22PM +0100, Manuel Chica Serrano wrote:
> >> Hello!! I've installed and configured a MediaWiki site and i don't know
> >> if it's possible
> >> add forms to a wiki page, javascript or include php code.
> >> I can't do this directly in Edit Page...
> >> What can I do???
> >>
> >
> > You cannot add forms, javascript and php code directly into a wiki page.
> > For this, you should probably find another CMS.
> >
> > --
> > ?? ??????? ? ?????????? -- ?? ??????? ?????.
> > (?? ????? ????? ???'????, ???)
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________
> Renovamos el Correo Yahoo!
> Nuevos servicios, m?s seguridad
> http://correo.yahoo.es
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>

From njansen at natuurlijk.nl  Thu Dec 15 13:56:33 2005
From: njansen at natuurlijk.nl (N Jansen)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:56:33 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Images no longer displayed
Message-ID: <014a01c6017f$5b73d4f0$6500a8c0@atlon2800>


After upgrading from 1.4.12 to MW 1.5.3, we found that almost all the images
are no longer displayed, and their pages are showing a warning about
possible malicious code. 

Any ideas how this happened or how to avoid it? 

See our test-website:

http://www.wereldpagina.nl/wiki2

N Jansen




From grodenhi at gmail.com  Thu Dec 15 15:40:57 2005
From: grodenhi at gmail.com (Greg Rodenhiser)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:40:57 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] upload html files
Message-ID: <6e4810db0512150740i721144e0wb0026cf90e468ccf@mail.gmail.com>

We are using Mediawiki 1.5.1 to organize documentation for our department.
The problem is that we cannot get Mediawiki to allow html files to be
uploaded.  I have enabled doc extentioons and that works.  I have the
following line in my LocalSettings.php

$wgFileExtensions = array( 'png', 'gif', 'jpg', 'jpeg', 'doc', 'pdf', 'html'
);

This allows all the above mentioned extentions to be uploaded, but for
whatever reason Mediawiki continues to reject .html files.  The error says
the file does not appear to be an image.  Why can't we upload an html file,
even though the extention is configured to be allowed?  Thanks!!


From njansen at natuurlijk.nl  Thu Dec 15 15:54:54 2005
From: njansen at natuurlijk.nl (N Jansen)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:54:54 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Images no longer displayed
In-Reply-To: <6e4810db0512150740i721144e0wb0026cf90e468ccf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <019901c6018f$e3dde8c0$6500a8c0@atlon2800>

After upgrading from 1.4.12 to MW 1.5.3, we found that almost all the images
are no longer displayed, and their pages are showing a warning about
possible malicious code. 

Any ideas how this happened or how to avoid it? 

See our test-website:

http://www.wereldpagina.nl/wiki2

N Jansen




From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Thu Dec 15 16:00:03 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 08:00:03 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Small Wiki Farm
In-Reply-To: <20051215092852.B1FB61AC174A@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051215092852.B1FB61AC174A@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <5D738D37-A2FE-4F5E-92AA-8D8D7A0AF9E6@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: "Laurie Lewis" <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au>
>
> I am very new to this and
> trying to set up a number of wikis on the one site.  All of them will
> deal with the same topic they are just in different languages.  I have
> been playing around with it for a while but seem to just keep breaking
> it.  I also found this article but I am having some problems following
> it.

Here is a script I use for such things. It basically makes linked  
copies of a "master" MW site.

#!/bin/bash
##
# Link the wiki files into another directory for use as a copy.
#
# $1: where to put the wiki
#
# Where the originals are
basedir=/Library/WebServer/include/mediawiki-1.5.2

# Should not need to change anything below this line.
#
# Where the target website is
#
if [ ! -d "$1" ]; then
	echo $0 error, $1 does not exist; exit 999;
fi

#
# Resolve relative name, if needed.
#
stardir="$PWD"
cd "$1"
targetdir="$PWD"
cd "$startdir"

#
# Setup the base wiki directory.
#
umask=027
[ -d "$targetdir/wiki" ] || mkdir "$targetdir/wiki"
chgrp www "$targetdir/wiki"
targetdir="$targetdir/wiki"

#
# Hard-link files in $1 directory to $2 directory, both of which exist,
# recursively doing the same in any subdirs found.
# Paths must be absolute.
#
depth=-1
function linkall() {
	echo
	((depth=$depth+1))
	for (( i=$depth; $i > 0; i=$i-1 )) ; do
		echo -n '    ';
	done
	echo -n "linking $1: "
	local here="$PWD"
	cd "$1"
	local f
         for f in *
         do
                 if [ -d "$f" ]; then
                         mkdir "$2/$f"; chgrp www "$2/$f"; linkall  
"$1/$f" "$2/$f" ;
                 else
			echo -n '.';
                         ln "$1/$f" "$2/$f";
                 fi
         done
	cd "$here"
	echo -n '/'
	((depth=$depth-1))
}

linkall "$basedir" "$targetdir"
chmod 770 "$targetdir/images"
chmod 770 "$targetdir/config"
rm "$targetdir/LocalSettings.php"

echo
echo "Now go to http://hostname/wiki/config and set up the  
configuration"
echo "REMEMBER remove or write protect the config directory afterward!"
echo



:::: Given an infinite source of energy, population growth still  
produces an inescapable problem. The problem of the acquisition of  
energy is replaced by the problem of its dissipation. -- Garrett Hardin
:::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van>




From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec 15 16:04:19 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:04:19 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] upload html files
In-Reply-To: <6e4810db0512150740i721144e0wb0026cf90e468ccf@mail.gmail.com>
References: <6e4810db0512150740i721144e0wb0026cf90e468ccf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512150804y1b562c27u@mail.gmail.com>

It's on an explicit blacklist.
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:%24wgFileBlacklist details more. I
suggest copying the array assignment into LocalSettings.php and
removing the entries to add 'html' and 'htm' to the blacklist, to
preserve the other restrictions.


Rob Church

On 15/12/05, Greg Rodenhiser <grodenhi at gmail.com> wrote:
> We are using Mediawiki 1.5.1 to organize documentation for our department.
> The problem is that we cannot get Mediawiki to allow html files to be
> uploaded.  I have enabled doc extentioons and that works.  I have the
> following line in my LocalSettings.php
>
> $wgFileExtensions = array( 'png', 'gif', 'jpg', 'jpeg', 'doc', 'pdf', 'html'
> );
>
> This allows all the above mentioned extentions to be uploaded, but for
> whatever reason Mediawiki continues to reject .html files.  The error says
> the file does not appear to be an image.  Why can't we upload an html file,
> even though the extention is configured to be allowed?  Thanks!!
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From wiki at matthart.com  Thu Dec 15 16:25:16 2005
From: wiki at matthart.com (MHart)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:25:16 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Small Wiki Farm
References: <000001c60108$bc3c9190$661aa8c0@airedale>
Message-ID: <002b01c60194$22e728c0$a31f13ac@WTML03000048>

Don't use the root directory for English - use separate folders for each 
wiki installation. I host about 50 wikis on the same server, some with their 
own domain names, some under a common name.

wikis.site.com/wiki1
wikis.site.com/wiki2
wikis.site.com/wiki3
wikis.site.com/wiki4

All under /var/www/wikis:   ./wiki1  ./wiki2  ./wiki3  and so on.

Sites with a different domain I keep separate:  /var/www/site1 
/var/www/site2  etc...

Just copy the wiki software into each folder and set it up as usual. The 
main trick is to prevent session mixing, since the same user can access a 
wiki on the same domain. Just add a line to LocalSettings here:

$wgSitename         = "YourWikiName";
ini_set("session.name", "{$wgSitename}Session");    // Added line

That allows a user to save their login on each wiki, even when it is in the 
same domain.

Here's my whole process for creating a brand new wiki (Fedora Core 4 - 
pretty much the same for Mandrake too, except you don't need paths for 
useradd and service commands)

ssh to server
su
cd /var/www/wikis
mkdir newwiki
cd newwiki
cp -R /home/mhart/mediawiki-1.5.x/* ./
chmod a+w config
mysql -p  (enter password)
mysql> create database newwikidb;
mysql> grant all privileges on newwikidb.* to 'newwiki_user'@'localhost' 
identified by 'newwiki_password';
mysql> quit

Then I browse to the site: mysite.com/newwiki  and run the setup. Then...

cp config/LocalSettings.php ./
chmod a-w config
vi LocalSettings.php
then find the $wgSiteName and add the line I showed above (ini_set)
:wq  (write and quit)

cd ..  (now I'm in /var/www/wikis)
/usr/sbin/useradd -d /var/www/wikis/newwiki newwiki
passwd newwiki (enter password twice)
chown -R newwiki newwiki
chgrp -R apache newwiki
vi /etc/vsftpd/chroot_list  (to add that user to the chroot list for FTP 
access - I already configured vsftpd for chrooting)
:wq

Then I create a backup cron job for the user - my default mediawiki install 
has a mysql\ folder in for database backup:

crontab -e
50 23 * * * /home/mhart/backup.sh /var/www/wikis/newwiki/mysql newwikidb 
newwiki   (parameters are path for backup, database name, owner name)
:wq

And I'm done - takes me five minutes :-)

If the wiki is on a different website, I use Apache vhosting:

vi /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
(find the virtual hosting stuff)
<VirtualHost 111.222.33.44>
    ServerName whatever.com
    DocumentRoot /var/www/whatever
    TransferLog /var/www/whatever/logs
</VirtualHost>
:wq

Then restart Apache:

/sbin/service httpd restart

An extra 90 seconds :-)


- MHart


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laurie Lewis" <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au>
To: <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:47 PM
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Small Wiki Farm


> Sorry but any assistance gratefully accepted.  I am very new to this and
> trying to set up a number of wikis on the one site.  All of them will
> deal with the same topic they are just in different languages.  I have
> been playing around with it for a while but seem to just keep breaking
> it.  I also found this article but I am having some problems following
> it.
>
> How do I create a small wiki farm?
>
> After copying the mediawiki source tree in /opt/mediawiki/ you need to
> run something like:
> mkdir .../wiki
> cd .../wiki
> mkdir images
> ln -s /opt/mediawiki/languages /opt/mediawiki/maintenance \
>   /opt/mediawiki/skins /opt/mediawiki/redirect.php .
> cp -a /opt/mediawiki/config/ .
> chown www-data: config/
> cp /opt/mediawiki/index.php index.php
> Then add /opt/mediawiki to the commands which set the include_path in
> config/index.php and add something like this to the main index.php:
> ini_set( "include_path", "/opt/mediawiki:." ); # line added
> require_once( 'includes/Defines.php' ); # this line used to include
> './includes/Defines.php'
> * make sure your webserver can read from /opt/mediawiki
>
>
> What I have done so far.
>
> Mkdir mediawiki      //Placed all the mediawiki files into this
> directory
>
> Created directories for
> French
> Danish
> Spanish
> German
>
> Using root directory for English
>
> Created symbolic links for all files and directories in /mediawiki in
> each language based directory
> Ran the installation process for each language based wiki  and moved
> LocalSettings.php
> For each wiki I am using a separate database as when I tried to use one
> database with prefixes it did not work -  It would not show appropriate
> languages for each wiki but got stuck on one.
>
> The only settings that different in each of the wiki's is basically the
> languagecode and databasename.  I have tried moving nearly all the
> settings from the LocalSettings.php to a CommonSettings.php file and
> calling it with an include_once statement but this just seems to break
> things also.
>
> Can anyone give me some very simple instructions on how to do this.
>
> Thanks
>
> Laurie
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l 




From mirko at raner.ws  Thu Dec 15 18:14:29 2005
From: mirko at raner.ws (Mirko Raner)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:14:29 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Changing Bugzilla to Mediazilla
Message-ID: <43A1B285.3030106@raner.ws>

Hi again,

I asked earlier about this but I'm not quite sure whether it was clear 
what I wanted. I have a MediaWiki 1.4.7 installation and a Bugzilla 2.20 
installation. Right now, if a user clicks onto a Bugzilla link in the 
wiki the standard Bugzilla interface appears, which looks entirely 
different from the wiki. To make everything look uniform, I'd like to 
use the same CGI scripts that are used for Mediazilla (I assume 
Mediazilla is just some modifications to the original Bugzilla Perl 
scripts, right?).
Where can I get the modified scripts that give Bugzilla the MediaWiki look?

Thanks,

Mirko



From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec 15 18:13:03 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 18:13:03 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Changing Bugzilla to Mediazilla
In-Reply-To: <43A1B285.3030106@raner.ws>
References: <43A1B285.3030106@raner.ws>
Message-ID: <e92136380512151013le51c856r@mail.gmail.com>

Check CVS?


Rob Church

On 15/12/05, Mirko Raner <mirko at raner.ws> wrote:
> Hi again,
>
> I asked earlier about this but I'm not quite sure whether it was clear
> what I wanted. I have a MediaWiki 1.4.7 installation and a Bugzilla 2.20
> installation. Right now, if a user clicks onto a Bugzilla link in the
> wiki the standard Bugzilla interface appears, which looks entirely
> different from the wiki. To make everything look uniform, I'd like to
> use the same CGI scripts that are used for Mediazilla (I assume
> Mediazilla is just some modifications to the original Bugzilla Perl
> scripts, right?).
> Where can I get the modified scripts that give Bugzilla the MediaWiki look?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Mirko
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From nathan.yates.2007 at marshall.usc.edu  Thu Dec 15 18:52:48 2005
From: nathan.yates.2007 at marshall.usc.edu (Yates, Nathan David (Dave))
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 10:52:48 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Corporate wiki survey - thanks for your participation!
Message-ID: <361B9777BF266E4190C74D6103B29359F9CD1B@msbmail03.marshall.usc.edu>

Dear MediaWiki Users - 

 

Our survey of corporate wiki users is complete and has been a success!
Over 160 people responded to the survey from worldwide locations.  Two
Apple i-Pod Nano's were given away via a random drawing from the survey
participants as a token of our appreciation.  On behalf of Dr. Chris
Wagner and Dr. Ann Majchrzak I would like to thank the MediaWiki
community for helping with this important research.

 

We will begin analyzing the responses in January and will report our
findings back to the survey participants.  If you are still interested
in participating in the survey and receiving a report of our findings
you can still take the survey at the following link: 

 

http://emarshall2.usc.edu/ultimatesurvey/takeSurvey.asp?surveyID=419
<http://emarshall2.usc.edu/ultimatesurvey/takeSurvey.asp?surveyID=419> 

 

Again, thank you very much for your support!

 

Best Regards,

 

Dave Yates

 

_______________________________________

 

Dave Yates

Ph.D. Candidate

USC Marshall School of Business

Information and Operations Management

(213) 821-6534     Fax (213) 740-7313

email: nyates at usc.edu <mailto:nyates at usc.edu>  

 



From mirko at raner.ws  Thu Dec 15 19:17:45 2005
From: mirko at raner.ws (Mirko Raner)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:17:45 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Changing Bugzilla to Mediazilla
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512151013le51c856r@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43A1B285.3030106@raner.ws>
	<e92136380512151013le51c856r@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43A1C159.1050702@raner.ws>

I looked in the MediaWiki CVS already, but even a Google search - 
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fcvs.sourceforge.net%2Fviewcvs.py%2Fwikipedia%2F+%22enter_bug.cgi%22 
- did not show any results (I'm not sure though how good Google is at 
indexing the CVS).
Is it maybe in a separate CVS repository, or - god forbid ;-) - not 
under CVS control at all?
If someone could point me to the modified scripts or diffs between the 
Mediazilla files and the original Bugzilla files, that would be great.

Thanks,

Mirko

Rob Church wrote:

>Check CVS?
>
>
>Rob Church
>
>On 15/12/05, Mirko Raner <mirko at raner.ws> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi again,
>>
>>I asked earlier about this but I'm not quite sure whether it was clear
>>what I wanted. I have a MediaWiki 1.4.7 installation and a Bugzilla 2.20
>>installation. Right now, if a user clicks onto a Bugzilla link in the
>>wiki the standard Bugzilla interface appears, which looks entirely
>>different from the wiki. To make everything look uniform, I'd like to
>>use the same CGI scripts that are used for Mediazilla (I assume
>>Mediazilla is just some modifications to the original Bugzilla Perl
>>scripts, right?).
>>Where can I get the modified scripts that give Bugzilla the MediaWiki look?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>
>>Mirko
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>MediaWiki-l mailing list
>>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>
>>    
>>
>_______________________________________________
>MediaWiki-l mailing list
>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
>
>  
>


From brion at pobox.com  Thu Dec 15 19:20:37 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:20:37 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: 1.5.2 problems with MySQL 5.0.16?
In-Reply-To: <AE7DFE83-289A-4435-8A4A-3308124F98A0@Bytesmiths.com>
References: <20051214133017.7D890135098C@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<AE7DFE83-289A-4435-8A4A-3308124F98A0@Bytesmiths.com>
Message-ID: <43A1C205.6080506@pobox.com>

Jan Steinman wrote:
> Okay, it looks like MySQL is crashing each time the MW 1.5 stack trace
> happens. I have no idea why.
> 
> From the CrashDump log, it looks like /usr/lib/libMathCommon.A.dylib is
> crashing.
> 
> At this time, it would seem I have a problem with MySQL, rather than MW
> 1.5 -- although it is odd that MW 1.5 is the ONLY app that causes MySQL
> to crash -- MW 1.4 works fine, as does phpMyAdmin and a dozen
> artist/gallery sites I developed!

Different programs will send things down different code paths, so you'll find
that kind of thing sometimes.

The crashing is darn weird, though; I don't seem to be having any trouble with
MySQL 5.0.16 here (Mac OS X 10.4.3, dual-core G5).

Which MySQL package did you install? (I'm using the 32-bit PPC installer package
for 10.4.)

> Thread 9 Crashed:
> 0   mysqld                0x0018597c 0x1000 + 1591676
> 1   mysqld                0x0018d5f0 0x1000 + 1623536
> 2   mysqld                0x0010453c 0x1000 + 1062204

Stack traces are more helpful when the binaries include symbol information. :P

Depending on how brave you are, you might try compiling MySQL from source
(requires XCode installed for the compiler) so the stack dump can include
function names; that might help in reporting the bug to MySQL...

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From a.schadow at hahnfilm.de  Thu Dec 15 11:21:28 2005
From: a.schadow at hahnfilm.de (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?Andr=E9_Schadow?=)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:21:28 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Installation Problems
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512150309t3456fcb4x@mail.gmail.com>
References: <439FFCEE.4030504@hahnfilm.de>
	<e92136380512150309t3456fcb4x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43A151B8.8020501@hahnfilm.de>

Hi Rob,

thanks for your reply. I spent a day and night to solve that problem 
without any results.
After thet I installed MediaWiki from my installation dvd. It took me 5 
minutes and everything was perfect.
The problem has to do with that f**cking german distribution of Linux 
(SUSE). All paths and dependencies and so on are changing from release 
to release.

Cheers,
Andr?



Rob Church schrieb:

>To start with the obvious...does the file exist? Can the web server
>process read it?
>
>
>Rob Church
>
>On 14/12/05, Andr? Schadow <a.schadow at hahnfilm.de> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi there,
>>
>>I tried to setup MediaWiki on my web server. My configuration:
>>
>>SUSE Linux 10.0
>>Apache 2
>>PHP 4.4.0
>>MySQL-Version 4.1.13
>>
>>After uploading it to the document root directory I tried to begin the
>>setup process but I got error message like that:
>>
>>Warning: main(includes/SiteConfiguration.php): failed to open stream: No
>>such file or directory in
>>/srv/www/htdocs/wiki/includes/DefaultSettings.php on line 27
>>
>>Fatal error: main(): Failed opening required
>>'includes/SiteConfiguration.php' (include_path='/usr/share/php') in
>>/srv/www/htdocs/wiki/includes/DefaultSettings.php on line 27
>>
>>
>>What can I do?
>>
>>Thanks,
>>Andr?
>>
>>_______________________________________________
>>MediaWiki-l mailing list
>>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>
>>    
>>
>_______________________________________________
>MediaWiki-l mailing list
>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
>  
>



From etxebe_17 at hotmail.com  Thu Dec 15 12:22:19 2005
From: etxebe_17 at hotmail.com (Manuel Chica Serrano)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 13:22:19 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] problems with anonymous permission
Message-ID: <BAY111-DAV49C863B0AE3821C6F53C89D3B0@phx.gbl>

Hi!
I use MediaWiki 1.5 and spanish language; I've a problem with anonymous read permission. If I write this lines in LocalSettings.php, an anonymous user will view all the following pages exception Especial:Search, SiMiDa:General_disclaimer and SiMiDa:Acerca_de. why anonymous user can view all except this 3 pages??

$wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['read']  = false;

$wgWhitelistRead = array ("Portada","SiMiDa:Miembros","SiMiDa:Lineas","SiMiDa:Publicaciones","SiMiDa:Proyectos",
  "SiMiDa:Seminarios", "SiMiDa:Enlaces", "SiMiDa:Docencia", "SiMiDa:KEEL", 
  "SiMiDa:Ayuda","SiMiDa:Acerca_de", "Especial:Search", "Especial:Userlogin", "SiMiDa:General_disclaimer");

The names of the pages are correctly written. And registered users can view all pages.

Thanks from Spain!!!
Bye


From frizzantik at yahoo.com  Thu Dec 15 15:50:32 2005
From: frizzantik at yahoo.com (frizz antik)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 07:50:32 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] more complex actions in MEDIAWIKI
Message-ID: <20051215155032.4654.qmail@web52110.mail.yahoo.com>

 You can use my mediawiki extension to get some scripting abilities

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Frantik/Winter

:)


			
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From brion at pobox.com  Thu Dec 15 19:26:14 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 11:26:14 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Images no longer displayed
In-Reply-To: <019901c6018f$e3dde8c0$6500a8c0@atlon2800>
References: <019901c6018f$e3dde8c0$6500a8c0@atlon2800>
Message-ID: <43A1C356.4060902@pobox.com>

N Jansen wrote:
> After upgrading from 1.4.12 to MW 1.5.3, we found that almost all the images
> are no longer displayed, and their pages are showing a warning about
> possible malicious code. 
> 
> Any ideas how this happened or how to avoid it? 

maintenance/rebuildImages.php

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From demaria at demaria.com  Thu Dec 15 20:29:57 2005
From: demaria at demaria.com (Rusel DeMaria)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:29:57 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] New and need help
In-Reply-To: <BAY111-DAV49C863B0AE3821C6F53C89D3B0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <001501c601b6$543ae7a0$0202a8c0@DeMaria>

I am helping with a (vers. 1.45) mediawiki site, populating and managing the
content for someone else. I am quite new to this and would like to find
someone who can answer some questions, particularly about security and user
access levels. 

I do not have direct access to the wiki files, since it is being hosted by a
separate isp. At the moment, I know how to create a new login account and
how to upgrade it to bureaucrat level, but not how to delete an account or
how to secure the wiki so that it can't be edited unless someone is logged
in to a valid account. Those are my two challenges at present.

Thanks to anyone who can help,

Rusel




From sy1234 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 15 20:55:30 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 20:55:30 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] captcha in 1.5+
In-Reply-To: <43A0B4ED.2080101@thingy.apana.org.au>
References: <dnd7bi$921$1@sea.gmane.org>
	<1e55af990512141509i4bbe8057ub7df4c35ed1145bf@mail.gmail.com>
	<43A0B4ED.2080101@thingy.apana.org.au>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512151255r6d3d9339u229367c13c93233e@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/15/05, David Gerard <fun at thingy.apana.org.au> wrote:
> There's a big thread on wikitech-l about Stupid Template Tricks.

Thanks for the note.  I went through the wikitech-l list[1] to find
the thread in question, and was directed to the if templates[2] which
made me a little upset because I just finished lunch.

I'm going to go rest a bit and maybe take another look.. thanks for
the reference.


[1] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/
[2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:If_Templates


From gaoandy at gmail.com  Thu Dec 15 21:06:05 2005
From: gaoandy at gmail.com (Andy Gao)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:06:05 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email confirmation failed
Message-ID: <eca6b080512151306l484116c7i85cfbef3786a54e3@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, all:

I installed WK1.5 in Fedora 3 box.

As system admin, I receive email about the wiki email confirmation delivery
error.
...

   ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
<sb at a.org> <nuin at genedrift.org>
    (reason: 550-Verification failed for
<nobody at localhost.localdomain> <nobody at localhost.localdomain>)

   ----- Transcript of session follows -----
... while talking to genedrift.org.:

>>> DATA

<<< 550-Verification failed for <nobody at localhost.localdomain>
<nobody at localhost.localdomain>
<<< 550-unrouteable mail domain "localhost.localdomain"
<<< 550 Sender verify failed
550 5.1.1 <sb at a.org> <nuin at genedrift.org>... User unknown
<<< 503 valid RCPT command must precede DATA


======================================

I guess that is some problem with the sendmail  configuration.

But is there any way I can modify with MW itself?

thanks,

andy


From sy1234 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 15 21:39:13 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:39:13 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Userspaces and groups permissions
In-Reply-To: <7C18CD7C51F63148AC345C1972BDFB9ECD5C43@exchange2000.cologne.tecdoc.local>
References: <7C18CD7C51F63148AC345C1972BDFB9ECD5C43@exchange2000.cologne.tecdoc.local>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512151339k27e1dc06n62bdc0db7fef5380@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/29/05, Schmidt, Torsten <torsten.schmidt at tecdoc.net> wrote:
> http://entwicklung/mediawiki/index.php/testnamespace:Restriction_Test
>
> Here is my Part of the LocalSettings.php where i've done this:
>     221 # create Test-ExtraNamespace:
>     222 $wgExtraNamespaces =
>     223         array(100 => "testnamespace",
>     224               101 => "testnamespace_talk"
>     225               );
>     226
>     227 # restrict access to this extra-namespace
>     228 $wgRestrictedNamespaces =
>     229         array(100 => "testgroup",
>     230               101 => "testgroup"
>     231              );
>     232 # allow only 'sysop' and 'testgroup' for restrictedNamespace 'testnamespace'
>     233 $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['testgroup'] = true;
>     234 $wgGroupPermissions['testgroup']['testgroup'] = true;
>     235
>     236 $wgGroupPermissions['testgroup']['read']           = true;
>     237 #$wgGroupPermissions['testgroup' ]['edit']          = false;
>     238
>
> Then, you can create a Page using the following link:
>
> [[testnamespace:foobar]]
>
> After this, the page 'foobar' can be viewed / edited only by the groupes you defined above.
>
> Regards,
>
> Torsten

I've tried this and it doesn't work.  I've also modified it and also
tried the example given in http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hidden_pages
.. nothing works.

Any user can edit and see any document in that namespace.


From fun at thingy.apana.org.au  Thu Dec 15 21:50:58 2005
From: fun at thingy.apana.org.au (David Gerard)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:50:58 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] captcha in 1.5+
In-Reply-To: <1e55af990512151255r6d3d9339u229367c13c93233e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dnd7bi$921$1@sea.gmane.org>	<1e55af990512141509i4bbe8057ub7df4c35ed1145bf@mail.gmail.com>	<43A0B4ED.2080101@thingy.apana.org.au>
	<1e55af990512151255r6d3d9339u229367c13c93233e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43A1E542.1070908@thingy.apana.org.au>

Sy Ali wrote:
> On 12/15/05, David Gerard <fun at thingy.apana.org.au> wrote:

>>There's a big thread on wikitech-l about Stupid Template Tricks.

> Thanks for the note.  I went through the wikitech-l list[1] to find
> the thread in question, and was directed to the if templates[2] which
> made me a little upset because I just finished lunch.


Don't say I didn't warn you specifically about looking at them after
eating! ;-)

To be fair, I can see the point of having something like {{if}} and
{{qif}} in Mediawiki code.

We just have to be REALLY careful to stop before template syntax is
Turing-complete ...


> [1] http://news.gmane.org/gmane.science.linguistics.wikipedia.technical/
> [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:If_Templates


- d.



From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec 15 21:56:35 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:56:35 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] New and need help
In-Reply-To: <001501c601b6$543ae7a0$0202a8c0@DeMaria>
References: <BAY111-DAV49C863B0AE3821C6F53C89D3B0@phx.gbl>
	<001501c601b6$543ae7a0$0202a8c0@DeMaria>
Message-ID: <e92136380512151356q12ab0b8di@mail.gmail.com>

1. Convince the site owner to upgrade to version 1.5.3 if possible.
This contains advanced permissions handling which makes your second
request simpler. Also, 1.5.3 contains security fixes for issues in the
1.4.x and 1.5.x (pre .3) branches.

2. MediaWiki doesn't contain functionality to delete user accounts.

3. See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Preventing_access for
information on restricting anon. editing, account creation, etc.


Rob Church

On 15/12/05, Rusel DeMaria <demaria at demaria.com> wrote:
> I am helping with a (vers. 1.45) mediawiki site, populating and managing the
> content for someone else. I am quite new to this and would like to find
> someone who can answer some questions, particularly about security and user
> access levels.
>
> I do not have direct access to the wiki files, since it is being hosted by a
> separate isp. At the moment, I know how to create a new login account and
> how to upgrade it to bureaucrat level, but not how to delete an account or
> how to secure the wiki so that it can't be edited unless someone is logged
> in to a valid account. Those are my two challenges at present.
>
> Thanks to anyone who can help,
>
> Rusel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec 15 21:58:02 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 21:58:02 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email confirmation failed
In-Reply-To: <eca6b080512151306l484116c7i85cfbef3786a54e3@mail.gmail.com>
References: <eca6b080512151306l484116c7i85cfbef3786a54e3@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512151358w20204422m@mail.gmail.com>

Your $wgEmergencyContact and $wgPasswordSender values appear to
contain a nonexistent email address, and sendmail refuses to send mail
"from" it. Check these values in LocalSettings.php and try again.


Rob Church

On 15/12/05, Andy Gao <gaoandy at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi, all:
>
> I installed WK1.5 in Fedora 3 box.
>
> As system admin, I receive email about the wiki email confirmation delivery
> error.
> ...
>
>    ----- The following addresses had permanent fatal errors -----
> <sb at a.org> <nuin at genedrift.org>
>     (reason: 550-Verification failed for
> <nobody at localhost.localdomain> <nobody at localhost.localdomain>)
>
>    ----- Transcript of session follows -----
> ... while talking to genedrift.org.:
>
> >>> DATA
>
> <<< 550-Verification failed for <nobody at localhost.localdomain>
> <nobody at localhost.localdomain>
> <<< 550-unrouteable mail domain "localhost.localdomain"
> <<< 550 Sender verify failed
> 550 5.1.1 <sb at a.org> <nuin at genedrift.org>... User unknown
> <<< 503 valid RCPT command must precede DATA
>
>
> ======================================
>
> I guess that is some problem with the sendmail  configuration.
>
> But is there any way I can modify with MW itself?
>
> thanks,
>
> andy
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From gaoandy at gmail.com  Thu Dec 15 22:17:16 2005
From: gaoandy at gmail.com (Andy Gao)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 17:17:16 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Email confirmation failed
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512151358w20204422m@mail.gmail.com>
References: <eca6b080512151306l484116c7i85cfbef3786a54e3@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512151358w20204422m@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <eca6b080512151417l715a5de7s5a4702ba11c74b4f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, rob:
thanks for your reply.

On 12/15/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Your $wgEmergencyContact and $wgPasswordSender values appear to
> contain a nonexistent email address, and sendmail refuses to send mail
> "from" it. Check these values in LocalSettings.php and try again.
>
>
Actually, they're set to my email account, it's correct.

I guess here since MW use the my local sendmail as relay (call the
nobody at localhost.localdomain),
the receiver's mail recognize my MTA(nobody at localhost.localdomain) as
unknown ....

Thank you.

andy


From demaria at demaria.com  Thu Dec 15 22:18:33 2005
From: demaria at demaria.com (Rusel DeMaria)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:18:33 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] New and need help
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512151356q12ab0b8di@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <000001c601c5$7ff05600$0202a8c0@DeMaria>

Thank you...

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
Sent: Thursday, December 15, 2005 1:57 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] New and need help

1. Convince the site owner to upgrade to version 1.5.3 if possible.
This contains advanced permissions handling which makes your second
request simpler. Also, 1.5.3 contains security fixes for issues in the
1.4.x and 1.5.x (pre .3) branches.

2. MediaWiki doesn't contain functionality to delete user accounts.

3. See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Preventing_access for
information on restricting anon. editing, account creation, etc.


Rob Church

On 15/12/05, Rusel DeMaria <demaria at demaria.com> wrote:
> I am helping with a (vers. 1.45) mediawiki site, populating and managing
the
> content for someone else. I am quite new to this and would like to find
> someone who can answer some questions, particularly about security and
user
> access levels.
>
> I do not have direct access to the wiki files, since it is being hosted by
a
> separate isp. At the moment, I know how to create a new login account and
> how to upgrade it to bureaucrat level, but not how to delete an account or
> how to secure the wiki so that it can't be edited unless someone is logged
> in to a valid account. Those are my two challenges at present.
>
> Thanks to anyone who can help,
>
> Rusel
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
_______________________________________________
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From jimm at simutronics.com  Thu Dec 15 22:30:50 2005
From: jimm at simutronics.com (James Miller)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 16:30:50 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] help with mediawiki in chrooted env and GD library
Message-ID: <GJEGKFGLCCDAOOCGDAMMIEHECAAA.jimm@simutronics.com>

Hello,

I hope this request for help isn't too 'off-list'.  I have setup a LAMP
server in a chrooted environment and mediawiki (latest release) is working
except it can not find the GD libraries (which I have in the chrooted
environment).

/jail/www/usr/lib/libgd.a
/jail/www/usr/lib/libgd.la
/jail/www/usr/lib/libgd.so.2.0.0
/jail/www/usr/lib/libgd.so -> libgd.so.2.0.0
/jail/www/usr/lib/libgd.so.2 -> libgd.so.2.0.0

/jail/www/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62.0.0
/jail/www/usr/lib/libjpeg.so.62 -> libjpeg.so.62.0.0

/jail/www/usr/lib/libpng12.so.0.1.2.8
/jail/www/usr/lib/libpng12.so.0 -> libpng12.so.0.1.2.8
/jail/www/usr/lib/libpng.so -> libpng12.so.0.1.2.8
/jail/www/usr/lib/libpng.so.3 -> libpng12.so.0.1.2.8

(all of these were taken from /usr/lib)



I was hoping someone might have an idea as to what I'm doing wrong.

Here's my configure line for php-4.4.1
./configure --with-zlib --with-jpeg --with-png --with-gd \
--with-mysql=/usr/local/mysql --with-apache=../apache_1.3.34 \
--enable-safe-mode

Here's my configure line for apache_1.3.34
./configure --prefix=/usr/local/apache --disable-module=all \
--server-uid=apache --server-gid=apache --enable-module=access \
--enable-module=log_config --enable-module=dir \
--enable-module=mime --enable-module=auth \
--activate-module=src/modules/extra/mod_security \
--activate-module=src/modules/php4/libphp4.a


MediaWiki 1.5.3 installation
Checking environment...
PHP 4.4.1: ok
PHP server API is apache; ok, using pretty URLs (index.php/Page_Title)
Have XML / Latin1-UTF-8 conversion support.
PHP is configured with no memory_limit.
Have zlib support; enabling output compression.
Neither Turck MMCache nor eAccelerator are installed, can't use object
caching functions
Couldn't find GD library or ImageMagick; image thumbnailing disabled.
Installation directory: /www/wiki
Script URI path: /wiki
Trying to connect to MySQL on localhost as root...
Connected as root (automatic)
Connected to 4.1.16-log; enabling MySQL 4 enhancements
Database wikidb exists
There are already MediaWiki tables in this database. Checking if updates are
needed...
DB user account ok


Thanks,
Jim






From brion at pobox.com  Thu Dec 15 22:49:46 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2005 14:49:46 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] help with mediawiki in chrooted env and GD library
In-Reply-To: <GJEGKFGLCCDAOOCGDAMMIEHECAAA.jimm@simutronics.com>
References: <GJEGKFGLCCDAOOCGDAMMIEHECAAA.jimm@simutronics.com>
Message-ID: <43A1F30A.4090407@pobox.com>

James Miller wrote:
> I hope this request for help isn't too 'off-list'.  I have setup a LAMP
> server in a chrooted environment and mediawiki (latest release) is working
> except it can not find the GD libraries (which I have in the chrooted
> environment).

1) Check phpinfo() output for the config options and GD module presence
2) Check Apache error log for errors on PHP startup
3) Use ldd on the PHP libraries to check that they are linked.
4) Check configure & compilation logs for PHP to make sure they were actually
compiled in.


> Here's my configure line for php-4.4.1
> ./configure --with-zlib --with-jpeg --with-png --with-gd \
> --with-mysql=/usr/local/mysql --with-apache=../apache_1.3.34 \
> --enable-safe-mode

Don't forget that a lot of these configure options are really *suggestions*. If
it doesn't find some library you asked for, it'll just print a one-line notice
about it (hidden among the other thousand lines) and configure without it. If
you have any trouble, you should to review the configure output and the log to
make sure that everything you asked for got enabled.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au  Thu Dec 15 23:55:47 2005
From: ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au (Laurie Lewis)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 10:55:47 +1100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Small Wiki Farm
In-Reply-To: <002b01c60194$22e728c0$a31f13ac@WTML03000048>
Message-ID: <000001c601d3$11f2f460$661aa8c0@airedale>

Ok,  I have set up the wiki as a test to begin with before I begin
transferring the real site across to correct all my mistakes. All wiki's
will be in the same domain just using different directories.

I have been able to move all the settings from LocalSettings.php to
CommonSettings.php except for the LanguageCode for each configuration.
That way I only have to change one file for all the wiki's and never
touch the LocalSettings.php again for individual wiki's.

I have also setup one database using language prefixes for all the
different language versions. (Done for backup ease).

Works fine to here.

I have added the line indicated below re session mixing but have some
concerns as all the wiki's will have the same name - will that cause
problems?

I would also like a common userbase across all the wiki's.  Since I am
using prefixes to differentiate the wiki's can I create a table "Users"
and point all wiki's to it????  How???

Also want to have a common images directory but will begin to read up on
that now - unless anyone want to tell me how to do it??

Thanks

Laurie





-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of MHart
Sent: Friday, 16 December 2005 3:25 AM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Small Wiki Farm

Don't use the root directory for English - use separate folders for each

wiki installation. I host about 50 wikis on the same server, some with
their 
own domain names, some under a common name.

wikis.site.com/wiki1
wikis.site.com/wiki2
wikis.site.com/wiki3
wikis.site.com/wiki4

All under /var/www/wikis:   ./wiki1  ./wiki2  ./wiki3  and so on.

Sites with a different domain I keep separate:  /var/www/site1 
/var/www/site2  etc...

Just copy the wiki software into each folder and set it up as usual. The

main trick is to prevent session mixing, since the same user can access
a 
wiki on the same domain. Just add a line to LocalSettings here:

$wgSitename         = "YourWikiName";
ini_set("session.name", "{$wgSitename}Session");    // Added line

That allows a user to save their login on each wiki, even when it is in
the 
same domain.

Here's my whole process for creating a brand new wiki (Fedora Core 4 - 
pretty much the same for Mandrake too, except you don't need paths for 
useradd and service commands)

ssh to server
su
cd /var/www/wikis
mkdir newwiki
cd newwiki
cp -R /home/mhart/mediawiki-1.5.x/* ./
chmod a+w config
mysql -p  (enter password)
mysql> create database newwikidb;
mysql> grant all privileges on newwikidb.* to 'newwiki_user'@'localhost'

identified by 'newwiki_password';
mysql> quit

Then I browse to the site: mysite.com/newwiki  and run the setup.
Then...

cp config/LocalSettings.php ./
chmod a-w config
vi LocalSettings.php
then find the $wgSiteName and add the line I showed above (ini_set)
:wq  (write and quit)

cd ..  (now I'm in /var/www/wikis)
/usr/sbin/useradd -d /var/www/wikis/newwiki newwiki
passwd newwiki (enter password twice)
chown -R newwiki newwiki
chgrp -R apache newwiki
vi /etc/vsftpd/chroot_list  (to add that user to the chroot list for FTP

access - I already configured vsftpd for chrooting)
:wq

Then I create a backup cron job for the user - my default mediawiki
install 
has a mysql\ folder in for database backup:

crontab -e
50 23 * * * /home/mhart/backup.sh /var/www/wikis/newwiki/mysql newwikidb

newwiki   (parameters are path for backup, database name, owner name)
:wq

And I'm done - takes me five minutes :-)

If the wiki is on a different website, I use Apache vhosting:

vi /etc/httpd/conf/httpd.conf
(find the virtual hosting stuff)
<VirtualHost 111.222.33.44>
    ServerName whatever.com
    DocumentRoot /var/www/whatever
    TransferLog /var/www/whatever/logs
</VirtualHost>
:wq

Then restart Apache:

/sbin/service httpd restart

An extra 90 seconds :-)


- MHart


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Laurie Lewis" <ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au>
To: <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2005 6:47 PM
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Small Wiki Farm


> Sorry but any assistance gratefully accepted.  I am very new to this
and
> trying to set up a number of wikis on the one site.  All of them will
> deal with the same topic they are just in different languages.  I have
> been playing around with it for a while but seem to just keep breaking
> it.  I also found this article but I am having some problems following
> it.
>
> How do I create a small wiki farm?
>
> After copying the mediawiki source tree in /opt/mediawiki/ you need to
> run something like:
> mkdir .../wiki
> cd .../wiki
> mkdir images
> ln -s /opt/mediawiki/languages /opt/mediawiki/maintenance \
>   /opt/mediawiki/skins /opt/mediawiki/redirect.php .
> cp -a /opt/mediawiki/config/ .
> chown www-data: config/
> cp /opt/mediawiki/index.php index.php
> Then add /opt/mediawiki to the commands which set the include_path in
> config/index.php and add something like this to the main index.php:
> ini_set( "include_path", "/opt/mediawiki:." ); # line added
> require_once( 'includes/Defines.php' ); # this line used to include
> './includes/Defines.php'
> * make sure your webserver can read from /opt/mediawiki
>
>
> What I have done so far.
>
> Mkdir mediawiki      //Placed all the mediawiki files into this
> directory
>
> Created directories for
> French
> Danish
> Spanish
> German
>
> Using root directory for English
>
> Created symbolic links for all files and directories in /mediawiki in
> each language based directory
> Ran the installation process for each language based wiki  and moved
> LocalSettings.php
> For each wiki I am using a separate database as when I tried to use
one
> database with prefixes it did not work -  It would not show
appropriate
> languages for each wiki but got stuck on one.
>
> The only settings that different in each of the wiki's is basically
the
> languagecode and databasename.  I have tried moving nearly all the
> settings from the LocalSettings.php to a CommonSettings.php file and
> calling it with an include_once statement but this just seems to break
> things also.
>
> Can anyone give me some very simple instructions on how to do this.
>
> Thanks
>
> Laurie
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l 


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From panos at echidna-band.com  Fri Dec 16 10:52:56 2005
From: panos at echidna-band.com (panos at echidna-band.com)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 11:52:56 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] SMF and Mediawiki within the same database
Message-ID: <20051216115256.92jfneeuwp340cc4@webmail.echidna-band.com>

I want to install SMF and Mediawiki within the same database. Using different
prefixes for the forum and the wiki will be ok?
Also is there a way for the forum and the wiki to have common usernames /
passwords?

Panos



From njansen at natuurlijk.nl  Fri Dec 16 12:16:50 2005
From: njansen at natuurlijk.nl (N Jansen)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:16:50 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Images no longer displayed
In-Reply-To: <43A1C356.4060902@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <008501c6023a$981a0a80$6500a8c0@atlon2800>

 
Tried this already. But first i get the messages:

processing image...

After a while only the wiki-database goes down. 

N Jansen

N Jansen wrote:
> After upgrading from 1.4.12 to MW 1.5.3, we found that almost all the 
> images are no longer displayed, and their pages are showing a warning 
> about possible malicious code.
> 
> Any ideas how this happened or how to avoid it? 

maintenance/rebuildImages.php

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)





From sy1234 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 16 14:54:43 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:54:43 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] removing auto blocking?
In-Reply-To: <20051215175433.501ee935.karunakar@randomink.org>
References: <20051215175433.501ee935.karunakar@randomink.org>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512160654p5140313eo4e085d28d8cb28db@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/15/05, Guntupalli Karunakar <karunakar at randomink.org> wrote:
...
> typically to prevent spam, we have captcha implemented at
> login time.

How did you get the captcha to work?  It looks great.. I'd like to do the same.


From sy1234 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 16 15:37:26 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:37:26 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] restricting pages using namespaces and group
	permissions
In-Reply-To: <7C18CD7C51F63148AC345C1972BDFB9EAC1B43@exchange2000.cologne.tecdoc.local>
References: <7C18CD7C51F63148AC345C1972BDFB9EAC1B43@exchange2000.cologne.tecdoc.local>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512160737l281f518bi6e5fa31d9c378a2a@mail.gmail.com>

On 11/16/05, Schmidt, Torsten <torsten.schmidt at tecdoc.net> wrote:
> i can't get it working:
>
> i have this in my Localsettings.php:
>
> # Testing Namespace
> $wgExtraNamespaces =
>         array(100 => "testnamespace",
>               101 => "testnamespace_talk"
>               );
>
> # restrict access to this extra-namespace
> $wgRestrictedNamespaces =
>         array(100 => "testgroup",
>               101 => "testgroup"
>              );
> # allow only 'sysop' and 'testgroup' for restrictedNamespace 'testnamespace'
> $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['testgroup'] = true;
> $wgGroupPermissions['testgroup']['testgroup'] = true;
>
>
> This should allow only users in the sysop and testgroup access to the pages in testnamespace.
>
> But, if i create a page with this link [[testnamespace:Restriction_Test]]
> i can view and edit it as a normal (new created) testuser.
>
> have i missed something?

I'm also having the same problem.  I tried from a couple of different
angles.. with no success.


From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec 16 16:13:39 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:13:39 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] SMF and Mediawiki within the same database
In-Reply-To: <20051216115256.92jfneeuwp340cc4@webmail.echidna-band.com>
References: <20051216115256.92jfneeuwp340cc4@webmail.echidna-band.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512160813m23fffc2dp@mail.gmail.com>

1. That's what the $wgDBprefix option is for.

2. Perhaps. You'd need to hack one or the other so that they hash
passwords the same, and share the same users table. Depending upon the
forum software, this might be a simple job or it it might be a
complete PITA.


Rob Church

On 16/12/05, panos at echidna-band.com <panos at echidna-band.com> wrote:
> I want to install SMF and Mediawiki within the same database. Using different
> prefixes for the forum and the wiki will be ok?
> Also is there a way for the forum and the wiki to have common usernames /
> passwords?
>
> Panos
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec 16 16:14:17 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:14:17 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Images no longer displayed
In-Reply-To: <008501c6023a$981a0a80$6500a8c0@atlon2800>
References: <43A1C356.4060902@pobox.com>
	<008501c6023a$981a0a80$6500a8c0@atlon2800>
Message-ID: <e92136380512160814p16ffcb04u@mail.gmail.com>

Explain..."only the wiki database goes down"...what does this mean?


Rob Church

On 16/12/05, N Jansen <njansen at natuurlijk.nl> wrote:
>
> Tried this already. But first i get the messages:
>
> processing image...
>
> After a while only the wiki-database goes down.
>
> N Jansen
>
> N Jansen wrote:
> > After upgrading from 1.4.12 to MW 1.5.3, we found that almost all the
> > images are no longer displayed, and their pages are showing a warning
> > about possible malicious code.
> >
> > Any ideas how this happened or how to avoid it?
>
> maintenance/rebuildImages.php
>
> -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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From njansen at natuurlijk.nl  Fri Dec 16 16:20:11 2005
From: njansen at natuurlijk.nl (N Jansen)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:20:11 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Images no longer displayed
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512160814p16ffcb04u@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <00fa01c6025c$969ce7f0$6500a8c0@atlon2800>

The other databases on our server functioned normal.

We got the message: 
'max_user_connections' when trying to access site just wait a few minutes
and try again!

N Jansen
-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
Sent: vrijdag 16 december 2005 17:14
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Images no longer displayed

Explain..."only the wiki database goes down"...what does this mean?


Rob Church

On 16/12/05, N Jansen <njansen at natuurlijk.nl> wrote:
>
> Tried this already. But first i get the messages:
>
> processing image...
>
> After a while only the wiki-database goes down.
>
> N Jansen
>
> N Jansen wrote:
> > After upgrading from 1.4.12 to MW 1.5.3, we found that almost all 
> > the images are no longer displayed, and their pages are showing a 
> > warning about possible malicious code.
> >
> > Any ideas how this happened or how to avoid it?
>
> maintenance/rebuildImages.php
>
> -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
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From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec 16 16:26:55 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 16:26:55 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Images no longer displayed
In-Reply-To: <00fa01c6025c$969ce7f0$6500a8c0@atlon2800>
References: <e92136380512160814p16ffcb04u@mail.gmail.com>
	<00fa01c6025c$969ce7f0$6500a8c0@atlon2800>
Message-ID: <e92136380512160826p7217042dy@mail.gmail.com>

And what is the value of max_user_connections on that database server?
I'll bet it's lower.


Rob Church

On 16/12/05, N Jansen <njansen at natuurlijk.nl> wrote:
> The other databases on our server functioned normal.
>
> We got the message:
> 'max_user_connections' when trying to access site just wait a few minutes
> and try again!
>
> N Jansen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
> Sent: vrijdag 16 december 2005 17:14
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Images no longer displayed
>
> Explain..."only the wiki database goes down"...what does this mean?
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 16/12/05, N Jansen <njansen at natuurlijk.nl> wrote:
> >
> > Tried this already. But first i get the messages:
> >
> > processing image...
> >
> > After a while only the wiki-database goes down.
> >
> > N Jansen
> >
> > N Jansen wrote:
> > > After upgrading from 1.4.12 to MW 1.5.3, we found that almost all
> > > the images are no longer displayed, and their pages are showing a
> > > warning about possible malicious code.
> > >
> > > Any ideas how this happened or how to avoid it?
> >
> > maintenance/rebuildImages.php
> >
> > -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> _______________________________________________
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From njansen at natuurlijk.nl  Fri Dec 16 16:57:08 2005
From: njansen at natuurlijk.nl (N Jansen)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:57:08 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Images no longer displayed
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512160826p7217042dy@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <010901c60261$c0778760$6500a8c0@atlon2800>


Tried Max users 200.

N Jansen

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
Sent: vrijdag 16 december 2005 17:27
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Images no longer displayed

And what is the value of max_user_connections on that database server?
I'll bet it's lower.


Rob Church

On 16/12/05, N Jansen <njansen at natuurlijk.nl> wrote:
> The other databases on our server functioned normal.
>
> We got the message:
> 'max_user_connections' when trying to access site just wait a few 
> minutes and try again!
>
> N Jansen
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org 
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
> Sent: vrijdag 16 december 2005 17:14
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Images no longer displayed
>
> Explain..."only the wiki database goes down"...what does this mean?
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 16/12/05, N Jansen <njansen at natuurlijk.nl> wrote:
> >
> > Tried this already. But first i get the messages:
> >
> > processing image...
> >
> > After a while only the wiki-database goes down.
> >
> > N Jansen
> >
> > N Jansen wrote:
> > > After upgrading from 1.4.12 to MW 1.5.3, we found that almost all 
> > > the images are no longer displayed, and their pages are showing a 
> > > warning about possible malicious code.
> > >
> > > Any ideas how this happened or how to avoid it?
> >
> > maintenance/rebuildImages.php
> >
> > -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
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From cjh at raccoon.com  Fri Dec 16 19:18:10 2005
From: cjh at raccoon.com (Chris Hettinger)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:18:10 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Embedding templates within templates;
	anyone achieve this?
In-Reply-To: <1e55af990512160654p5140313eo4e085d28d8cb28db@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051215175433.501ee935.karunakar@randomink.org>
	<1e55af990512160654p5140313eo4e085d28d8cb28db@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43A312F2.9040103@raccoon.com>

MediaWiki 1.5.2

It's currently not possible to use a template tag within another 
template tag because the parser will inturpret the first two closing 
curly brakets it encounters...

I am curious if anyone has modified the parser to allow this to happen, 
perhaps with an escape character or enclosing the embedded template tag 
withing a character ...

Is this something that has been done?

-ch



From AWilly at eSMIL.net  Fri Dec 16 19:57:19 2005
From: AWilly at eSMIL.net (Willy, Andrew)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:57:19 -0700
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Searching in Mediawiki
Message-ID: <7882C3A114DCE24D827BBED52B25B85BC84F28@SMILemail.eSMIL.com>

Is there an document around that describes searching Mediawiki?  I notice
some strange results on our corporate wikis running on 1.5.

For example, one article contains the words "Best" and "Information".  If I
search the wiki for "information", the article is returned.  Search for
"best", and it is not.  Letter case doesn't seem to be the issue.

I notice this with other words, as well.  Is there like a common word list
that Mediawiki disregards because of queries returning too many results?

Thanks

Andrew






















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From brion at pobox.com  Fri Dec 16 20:26:03 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:26:03 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Searching in Mediawiki
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Willy, Andrew wrote:
> Is there an document around that describes searching Mediawiki?  I notice
> some strange results on our corporate wikis running on 1.5.
> 
> For example, one article contains the words "Best" and "Information".  If I
> search the wiki for "information", the article is returned.  Search for
> "best", and it is not.  Letter case doesn't seem to be the issue.
> 
> I notice this with other words, as well.  Is there like a common word list
> that Mediawiki disregards because of queries returning too many results?

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/fulltext-stopwords.html

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From AWilly at eSMIL.net  Fri Dec 16 20:41:13 2005
From: AWilly at eSMIL.net (Willy, Andrew)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:41:13 -0700
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Searching in Mediawiki
Message-ID: <7882C3A114DCE24D827BBED52B25B85BC84F2C@SMILemail.eSMIL.com>

Brion,

Thank you, that was exactly what I needed.

Andrew

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Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Searching in Mediawiki























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From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Fri Dec 16 21:40:41 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:40:41 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Embedding templates within templates;
	anyone achieve this?
In-Reply-To: <43A312F2.9040103@raccoon.com>
References: <20051215175433.501ee935.karunakar@randomink.org>
	<1e55af990512160654p5140313eo4e085d28d8cb28db@mail.gmail.com>
	<43A312F2.9040103@raccoon.com>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512161340r5b40fb6g@mail.gmail.com>

On 16/12/05, Chris Hettinger <cjh at raccoon.com> wrote:
> It's currently not possible to use a template tag within another
> template tag because the parser will inturpret the first two closing
> curly brakets it encounters...

I believe this has actually been fixed in the CVS head ("1.6devel")
code, as running on Wikipedia et al. No escaping or other nasty hacks
required, just a change to the way in which the parser matches the
braces. It may be that the changes were too major for anyone to have
ported them to the "stable" 1.5 branch, but clearly it is possible...

--
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[IMSoP]


From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Fri Dec 16 21:42:05 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:42:05 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Embedding templates within templates;
	anyone achieve this?
In-Reply-To: <9f02ca4c0512161340r5b40fb6g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051215175433.501ee935.karunakar@randomink.org>
	<1e55af990512160654p5140313eo4e085d28d8cb28db@mail.gmail.com>
	<43A312F2.9040103@raccoon.com>
	<9f02ca4c0512161340r5b40fb6g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512161342s4f336535u@mail.gmail.com>

On 16/12/05, Rowan Collins <rowan.collins at gmail.com> wrote:
> I believe this has actually been fixed in the CVS head ("1.6devel")

Oh, and if you want to see *how* it was fixed, it looks like it was
the patch attached to
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3526

--
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[IMSoP]


From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Fri Dec 16 21:50:16 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 21:50:16 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Changing Bugzilla to Mediazilla
In-Reply-To: <43A1B285.3030106@raner.ws>
References: <43A1B285.3030106@raner.ws>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512161350w71684b3fq@mail.gmail.com>

On 15/12/05, Mirko Raner <mirko at raner.ws> wrote:
> Where can I get the modified scripts that give Bugzilla the MediaWiki look?

See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bugzilla_patches
And no, it's not under CVS control, it's just in a tarball at
http://download.wikimedia.org/bugzilla/ But then nor is it really a
modification of the Perl scripts - Bugzilla is designed to be
"skinnable", so the MediaWiki look is just a bunch of custom
templates.

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Fri Dec 16 23:19:11 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:19:11 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Searching in Mediawiki
In-Reply-To: <7882C3A114DCE24D827BBED52B25B85BC84F2C@SMILemail.eSMIL.com>
References: <7882C3A114DCE24D827BBED52B25B85BC84F2C@SMILemail.eSMIL.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512161519s1ea98378k77c1e9d3ef8d4956@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/16/05, Willy, Andrew <AWilly at esmil.net> wrote:
> Brion,
>
> Thank you, that was exactly what I needed.

You should also know that MySql has ft_min_word_len and
ft_max_word_len system variables which determine the shortest and
longest words acceptable for text searching.  The default minimun is 4
characters, and the default maximum depends on the version of MySql.

http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/4.1/en/fulltext-fine-tuning.html

--
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From mauro at carmo.ws  Sat Dec 17 01:40:03 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 17:40:03 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php
Message-ID: <20051217014016.9034F1AC175F@mail.wikimedia.org>

Hi,

 

I am little confused about span protection. So, if someone could let me know
if I set it up correctly, I will appreciate.

 

Seems like I am missing something though, but that is all I?ve done:

 

* in my LocalSettings.php I wrote:

$wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";

require_once("extensions/SpamBlacklist.php"); 

 

* inside my extention directory, I copied those files from
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/extensions/SpamBlacklist/#di
rlist:

SpamBlacklist.php

SpamBlacklist_body.php

 

And, if that all I have to do, where I should add words/sentences I don?t
want to be displayed in my wiki?

 

Thanks a lot, mauro.

 

-----------------------

Server: * PHP Version 4.3.11-dev;

        * Mediawiki: 1.5.3;

        * on Linux, Apache 1.3.31 base environment.

 

Client: * Win XP Home Edition SP2;

        * Browser: FireFox;

        * Extensions: Wikipedia 0.5.2 + Google Bar.


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From pvarma at inventures.com  Sat Dec 17 02:44:22 2005
From: pvarma at inventures.com (Piyush Varma)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 18:44:22 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How to change a user password external script
Message-ID: <AE8AB5873C8118458AF059ED48D8FE6E05333B1E@iv001dc.lan.inventures.com>

Hi,
 
I have tried to change the user_password value for a user_name value of a particular user using PHP md5("password_value") function. But, it does not work.
 
I have also tried to use a 2-step process:
 
1: $p = md5( $password);
2: return md5( "{$userid}-{$p}" );    # to get the hashed password
 
The hashed password value does not match with the value in MySql user table.
 
The value of $password = "123qweA" and the user.user_password table value is fce34f65fd0acb4c716bc2305e47f7c2
 
While the value I derive using above 1 and 2 lines is 8021331ef9a813b4713630fb1c3ca0fc using $userid = "pvarma"
 
What should I do to change a user's password outside the MediaWiki web interface please?
 
Thank you,
 
Piyush
 


From robchur at gmail.com  Sat Dec 17 02:45:53 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 02:45:53 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php
In-Reply-To: <20051217014016.9034F1AC175F@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051217014016.9034F1AC175F@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <e92136380512161845i386e3e93j@mail.gmail.com>

The top of the documentation, at
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/wikipedia/extensions/SpamBlacklist/README,
contains a fairly clear description of how this thing is set up and
configured. ;-)


Rob Church

On 17/12/05, Mauro do Carmo <mauro at carmo.ws> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>
>
> I am little confused about span protection. So, if someone could let me know
> if I set it up correctly, I will appreciate.
>
>
>
> Seems like I am missing something though, but that is all I've done:
>
>
>
> * in my LocalSettings.php I wrote:
>
> $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
>
> require_once("extensions/SpamBlacklist.php");
>
>
>
> * inside my extention directory, I copied those files from
> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/extensions/SpamBlacklist/#di
> rlist:
>
> SpamBlacklist.php
>
> SpamBlacklist_body.php
>
>
>
> And, if that all I have to do, where I should add words/sentences I don't
> want to be displayed in my wiki?
>
>
>
> Thanks a lot, mauro.
>
>
>
> -----------------------
>
> Server: * PHP Version 4.3.11-dev;
>
>         * Mediawiki: 1.5.3;
>
>         * on Linux, Apache 1.3.31 base environment.
>
>
>
> Client: * Win XP Home Edition SP2;
>
>         * Browser: FireFox;
>
>         * Extensions: Wikipedia 0.5.2 + Google Bar.
>
>
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From michael at bartmess.net  Sat Dec 17 02:47:01 2005
From: michael at bartmess.net (Michael Bartmess)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 19:47:01 -0700
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Images no longer displayed
In-Reply-To: <008501c6023a$981a0a80$6500a8c0@atlon2800>
Message-ID: <BAY107-DAV8E275CCA388196EDBEF68A53D0@phx.gbl>

 

Would one of the scripts in the maintenance folder possible help me recover
the icons for the editor page?  They disappeared and I have verified both
the reference to them in the php file is still there and the png files for
the icons are also there.  So, I'm wondering if this is tied to the database
somehow and might need to be reset?
 

Michael C. Bartmess 


-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of N Jansen
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 5:17 AM
To: 'MediaWiki announcements and site admin list'
Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] Images no longer displayed

 
Tried this already. But first i get the messages:

processing image...

After a while only the wiki-database goes down. 

N Jansen

N Jansen wrote:
> After upgrading from 1.4.12 to MW 1.5.3, we found that almost all the 
> images are no longer displayed, and their pages are showing a warning 
> about possible malicious code.
> 
> Any ideas how this happened or how to avoid it? 

maintenance/rebuildImages.php

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From robchur at gmail.com  Sat Dec 17 03:08:35 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 03:08:35 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How to change a user password external script
In-Reply-To: <AE8AB5873C8118458AF059ED48D8FE6E05333B1E@iv001dc.lan.inventures.com>
References: <AE8AB5873C8118458AF059ED48D8FE6E05333B1E@iv001dc.lan.inventures.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512161908n49a898c6u@mail.gmail.com>

This thread [http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2005-December/008854.html]
from the mailing list should sort you out. :)


Rob Church

On 17/12/05, Piyush Varma <pvarma at inventures.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have tried to change the user_password value for a user_name value of a particular user using PHP md5("password_value") function. But, it does not work.
>
> I have also tried to use a 2-step process:
>
> 1: $p = md5( $password);
> 2: return md5( "{$userid}-{$p}" );    # to get the hashed password
>
> The hashed password value does not match with the value in MySql user table.
>
> The value of $password = "123qweA" and the user.user_password table value is fce34f65fd0acb4c716bc2305e47f7c2
>
> While the value I derive using above 1 and 2 lines is 8021331ef9a813b4713630fb1c3ca0fc using $userid = "pvarma"
>
> What should I do to change a user's password outside the MediaWiki web interface please?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Piyush
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From mauro at carmo.ws  Sat Dec 17 08:05:46 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 00:05:46 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512161845i386e3e93j@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20051217080559.074501AC01E8@mail.wikimedia.org>

Thanks Rob,

However, I am still getting some problem. I hope your patience would let you
clarify my mind.

I've first tried this line: 
$wgSpamBlacklistFiles = array("DB: mywikiDB My_spam_blacklist");
,but I got an error message.

I've tried this line too: 
array("extensions/wikimedia_blacklist.txt");
,but no success at all.

--------my LocalSettings.php --------------
$wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
require_once("extensions/SpamBlacklist.php"); 

-------- my extention directory -----------
SpamBlacklist.php
SpamBlacklist_body.php
wikimedia_blacklist.txt

-------------------------------------------

Now every think looks nice, but it is not working. Am I missing somethink?

Thanks a lot, mauro.






-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rob Church
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 6:46 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php

The top of the documentation, at
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/*checkout*/wikipedia/extensions/SpamBl
acklist/README,
contains a fairly clear description of how this thing is set up and
configured. ;-)


Rob Church




On 17/12/05, Mauro do Carmo <mauro at carmo.ws> wrote:
> Hi,
> I am little confused about span protection. So, if someone could let me
know
> if I set it up correctly, I will appreciate.
> Seems like I am missing something though, but that is all I've done:
> * in my LocalSettings.php I wrote:
>
> $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
>
> require_once("extensions/SpamBlacklist.php");
> * inside my extention directory, I copied those files from
>
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/extensions/SpamBlacklist/#di
> rlist:
>
> SpamBlacklist.php
>
> SpamBlacklist_body.php
>
> And, if that all I have to do, where I should add words/sentences I don't
> want to be displayed in my wiki?
> Thanks a lot, mauro.
> -----------------------
>
> Server: * PHP Version 4.3.11-dev;
>         * Mediawiki: 1.5.3;
>         * on Linux, Apache 1.3.31 base environment.
>
> Client: * Win XP Home Edition SP2;
>         * Browser: FireFox;
>         * Extensions: Wikipedia 0.5.2 + Google Bar.

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From jaroslaw at linux.org.ua  Sat Dec 17 15:33:56 2005
From: jaroslaw at linux.org.ua (Yaroslav Fedevych)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:33:56 +0200
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Trying to write a generic wikitext parser
Message-ID: <20051217153356.GA30218@fly.osdn.org.ua>

The main goal is, of course, to be able to convert wikitext to as many
output formats as possible. That is why I'll first  try to write a
parser function to return me the document tree I would be able to parse.

So I sat down for half an hour and tried to identify each and every
entity wikitext might consist of.

The results are available here: http://docs.linux.org.ua/~jaroslaw/?p=8

If anyone is interested in this, I encourage to comment on this table,
especially if I've got something wrong, or the table is not complete.

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From gwynhefar at gmail.com  Fri Dec 16 18:29:09 2005
From: gwynhefar at gmail.com (Gwyn Raven)
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 12:29:09 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Question about categories
Message-ID: <c38af3c60512161029s723f5c9h72c14fbafc14736d@mail.gmail.com>

I apologise if this has already been discussed, but I did a search of
the archives and didn't find anything, so I'll ask it here.

I have recently begun working with MediaWiki, and have noticed that my
Categories page is actually ordered by order of creation, not
alphabetically as everything I've read indicates it should be.  Does
anyone know how to fix this?  I'd love to be able to edit the the
organisation of that page to some sort of logical progression, but
barring that, alphabetical is at least much better than creation
order.

Please send replies directly to this address, as I am not subscribed
to the list.

Thanks,
Gwyn

--
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Down the passage we did not take
Towards the door we never opened
Into the rose garden.

-- T. S. Eliot

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LJ: http://gwynraven.livejournal.com/


From zenboy.newtown at gmail.com  Sat Dec 17 16:49:55 2005
From: zenboy.newtown at gmail.com (Zen)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 03:49:55 +1100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How do i access my raw data if I can't move my wiki?
Message-ID: <6c255d3e0512170849mba1a22bm98546dd04e64fd90@mail.gmail.com>

Hi, I created about a dozen wikis to use as:
- draft websites
- info storage
After doing a big delete-the c drive-and-start-over, I've found it too
difficult atm to transfer the files to a new set of wikis.

But there's certain data I really need from the old files.

Does anyone know how i can read the raw data in my old wikis?

Really appreciate the help cos this data is quite important to me!

Thanks.


From Arthur at assys.net  Sat Dec 17 20:05:58 2005
From: Arthur at assys.net (Arthur Guy)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 20:05:58 -0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How do i access my raw data if I can't move my wiki?
Message-ID: <2A86EFBE967DCA498DEDBCB0541E1796636C@zeus.assys.net>

The data is all stored in your database; simple use your usual database
management app to view the data.

-Arthur

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Zen
Sent: 17 December 2005 16:50
To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How do i access my raw data if I can't move my
wiki?

Hi, I created about a dozen wikis to use as:
- draft websites
- info storage
After doing a big delete-the c drive-and-start-over, I've found it too
difficult atm to transfer the files to a new set of wikis.

But there's certain data I really need from the old files.

Does anyone know how i can read the raw data in my old wikis?

Really appreciate the help cos this data is quite important to me!

Thanks.
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From magnus.manske at web.de  Sat Dec 17 23:01:45 2005
From: magnus.manske at web.de (Magnus Manske)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 00:01:45 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Trying to write a generic wikitext parser
In-Reply-To: <20051217153356.GA30218@fly.osdn.org.ua>
References: <20051217153356.GA30218@fly.osdn.org.ua>
Message-ID: <1134860505.28223.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>

Am Samstag, den 17.12.2005, 17:33 +0200 schrieb Yaroslav Fedevych:
> The main goal is, of course, to be able to convert wikitext to as many
> output formats as possible. That is why I'll first  try to write a
> parser function to return me the document tree I would be able to parse.
> 
> So I sat down for half an hour and tried to identify each and every
> entity wikitext might consist of.
> 
> The results are available here: http://docs.linux.org.ua/~jaroslaw/?p=8
> 
> If anyone is interested in this, I encourage to comment on this table,
> especially if I've got something wrong, or the table is not complete.
> 

For a wiki-to-XML converter that works reasonably well (a little slow
though, especially with tables), see CVS, "wiki2xml" module, "php"
directory. Or:

http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/wiki2xml/php/

It works for wikitext as a source, or a list of page titles. It can even
replace templates "live".

I've started to add an OpenDocument text output. Any help would be
appreciated.

Magnus



From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Sat Dec 17 23:59:37 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 18:59:37 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php
In-Reply-To: <20051217080559.074501AC01E8@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <e92136380512161845i386e3e93j@mail.gmail.com>
	<20051217080559.074501AC01E8@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512171559h4709a14g443e07b579470835@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/17/05, Mauro do Carmo <mauro at carmo.ws> wrote:
> Thanks Rob,
>
> However, I am still getting some problem. I hope your patience would let you
> clarify my mind.
>
> I've first tried this line:
> $wgSpamBlacklistFiles = array("DB: mywikiDB My_spam_blacklist");
> ,but I got an error message.

What error message?  Does your wiki HAVE an article entitled My spam
blacklist?  Is mywikiDB the correct spelling of the database?

> I've tried this line too:
> array("extensions/wikimedia_blacklist.txt");
> ,but no success at all.

I think that you need the complete path to the file, something like
/var/www/w/extensions/wikimedia_blacklist.txt depending on where
you've got it installed.

--
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From mauro at carmo.ws  Sun Dec 18 01:08:23 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 17:08:23 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0512171559h4709a14g443e07b579470835@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20051218010833.AB90D13504A2@mail.wikimedia.org>

Thanks Rick,

All is lookinf fine, but it doesn't work. I've tried with DB, and with a
list as well as I report here in case 1), and case 2).

Please, if you get a chance, get a look, and let me know where I mistaken.

Thanks a lot, mauro.

1)--------------using ("DB: mywikiDB Spam_blacklist");---------------------
--------my LocalSettings.php -------------- 

$wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
require_once("extensions/SpamBlacklist.php");
$wgSpamBlacklistFiles = array ("DB: mywikiDB Spam_blacklist");

# mywikiDB is the correct spelling of my database. $wgDBname = "mywikiDB"; 

# I do have a page called Spam_blacklist copied from META. 

,this is the MESSAGE ERROR I've got:
"1146: Table ' mywikiDB.pt_cur' doesn't exist (mysql.hosting.com)".

require_once("extensions/inputbox.php");
#this call is working fine! Which makes sure that the path is ok.
?>
-------- my extention directory ----------- 

SpamBlacklist.php 

SpamBlacklist_body.php 

wikimedia_blacklist.txt
-------------------------------------------



2)------using ("extensions/wikimedia_blacklist.txt");---------------------
--------my LocalSettings.php -------------- 

$wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
require_once("extensions/SpamBlacklist.php");
$wgSpamBlacklistFiles = array ("extensions/wikimedia_blacklist.txt");

# mywikiDB is the correct spelling of my database. $wgDBname = "mywikiDB"; 

# I do have a page called Spam_blacklist copied from META. 

,NO MESSAGE ERROR, but no result at all.

require_once("extensions/inputbox.php");
#this call is working fine! Which makes sure that the path is ok.
?>
-------- my extention directory ----------- 

SpamBlacklist.php 

SpamBlacklist_body.php 

wikimedia_blacklist.txt
-------------------------------------------
-----------------END-----------------------
-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rick DeNatale
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 4:00 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php

On 12/17/05, Mauro do Carmo <mauro at carmo.ws> wrote:
> Thanks Rob,
>
> However, I am still getting some problem. I hope your patience would let
you
> clarify my mind.
>
> I've first tried this line:
> $wgSpamBlacklistFiles = array("DB: mywikiDB My_spam_blacklist");
> ,but I got an error message.

What error message?  Does your wiki HAVE an article entitled My spam
blacklist?  Is mywikiDB the correct spelling of the database?

> I've tried this line too:
> array("extensions/wikimedia_blacklist.txt");
> ,but no success at all.

I think that you need the complete path to the file, something like
/var/www/w/extensions/wikimedia_blacklist.txt depending on where
you've got it installed.

--
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Sun Dec 18 02:53:47 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:53:47 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php
In-Reply-To: <20051218010833.AB90D13504A2@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <deb2337a0512171559h4709a14g443e07b579470835@mail.gmail.com>
	<20051218010833.AB90D13504A2@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512171853l251a28gdbc7037b022baa1c@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/17/05, Mauro do Carmo <mauro at carmo.ws> wrote:
> Thanks Rick,
>
> All is lookinf fine, but it doesn't work. I've tried with DB, and with a
> list as well as I report here in case 1), and case 2).
>
> Please, if you get a chance, get a look, and let me know where I mistaken.
>
> Thanks a lot, mauro.
>
> 1)--------------using ("DB: mywikiDB Spam_blacklist");---------------------
> --------my LocalSettings.php --------------
>
> $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
> require_once("extensions/SpamBlacklist.php");
> $wgSpamBlacklistFiles = array ("DB: mywikiDB Spam_blacklist");
>
> # mywikiDB is the correct spelling of my database. $wgDBname = "mywikiDB";
>
> # I do have a page called Spam_blacklist copied from META.
>
> ,this is the MESSAGE ERROR I've got:
> "1146: Table ' mywikiDB.pt_cur' doesn't exist (mysql.hosting.com)".

It looks like you are running MW 1.5, the spam blacklist extension was
written against 1.4 and needs to be patched to work with 1.5 which has
no cur table in the database.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SpamBlacklist_extension#Patch_for_1.5_Compatibility

includes the patch. Read it carefully and note that the spam list
article needs to be moved the MediaWiki namespace, which is the
namespace where all the system messages exist.

> require_once("extensions/inputbox.php");
> #this call is working fine! Which makes sure that the path is ok.

No it doesn't. Require_once is a php language directive which searches
for the file to be included in several places according to the include
path.

The code in the spamblacklist extension only uses the complete file
path you specify.  The readme file examples start with $IP/... where
$IP is the variable set near the beginning of Localsettings.php and
holds the path to where mediawiki is installed.

--
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From youngi at comcast.net  Sun Dec 18 03:13:30 2005
From: youngi at comcast.net (Isaac Gonzalez)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 19:13:30 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How to change a user password external script
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512161908n49a898c6u@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <KIEEKHMBNKMLLBPMFAMMEEGDCGAA.youngi@comcast.net>

Rob thanks so much! this query works great to update a user's password from
mysql prompt.

-Isaac

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org]On Behalf Of Rob Church
Sent: Friday, December 16, 2005 7:09 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] How to change a user password external script


This thread
[http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2005-December/008854.html]
from the mailing list should sort you out. :)


Rob Church

On 17/12/05, Piyush Varma <pvarma at inventures.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have tried to change the user_password value for a user_name value of a
particular user using PHP md5("password_value") function. But, it does not
work.
>
> I have also tried to use a 2-step process:
>
> 1: $p = md5( $password);
> 2: return md5( "{$userid}-{$p}" );    # to get the hashed password
>
> The hashed password value does not match with the value in MySql user
table.
>
> The value of $password = "123qweA" and the user.user_password table value
is fce34f65fd0acb4c716bc2305e47f7c2
>
> While the value I derive using above 1 and 2 lines is
8021331ef9a813b4713630fb1c3ca0fc using $userid = "pvarma"
>
> What should I do to change a user's password outside the MediaWiki web
interface please?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Piyush
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
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From oremanj at gmail.com  Sun Dec 18 05:23:59 2005
From: oremanj at gmail.com (Joshua Oreman)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:23:59 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How to change a user password external script
In-Reply-To: <AE8AB5873C8118458AF059ED48D8FE6E05333B1E@iv001dc.lan.inventures.com>
References: <AE8AB5873C8118458AF059ED48D8FE6E05333B1E@iv001dc.lan.inventures.com>
Message-ID: <197f0ba30512172123k7191b8a8w3411a58919078942@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/16/05, Piyush Varma <pvarma at inventures.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I have tried to change the user_password value for a user_name value of a particular user using PHP md5("password_value") function. But, it does not work.
>
> I have also tried to use a 2-step process:
>
> 1: $p = md5( $password);
> 2: return md5( "{$userid}-{$p}" );    # to get the hashed password
>
> The hashed password value does not match with the value in MySql user table.
>
> The value of $password = "123qweA" and the user.user_password table value is fce34f65fd0acb4c716bc2305e47f7c2
>
> While the value I derive using above 1 and 2 lines is 8021331ef9a813b4713630fb1c3ca0fc using $userid = "pvarma"

userid is a number, the user *ID*.  (The name is called, surprisingly
enough, the user name.)

>
> What should I do to change a user's password outside the MediaWiki web interface please?

The above looks good, you just need the numeric ID as listed in the user table.

HTH
-- Josh

>
> Thank you,
>
> Piyush
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From mauro at carmo.ws  Sun Dec 18 05:29:52 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:29:52 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0512171853l251a28gdbc7037b022baa1c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20051218053010.4333F1AC01AD@mail.wikimedia.org>

Thnaks Rick & all,

I get Spam blacklist working!

[]'s
mauro.



-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rick DeNatale
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 6:54 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php

On 12/17/05, Mauro do Carmo <mauro at carmo.ws> wrote:
> Thanks Rick,
>
> All is lookinf fine, but it doesn't work. I've tried with DB, and with a
> list as well as I report here in case 1), and case 2).
>
> Please, if you get a chance, get a look, and let me know where I mistaken.
>
> Thanks a lot, mauro.
>
> 1)--------------using ("DB: mywikiDB
Spam_blacklist");---------------------
> --------my LocalSettings.php --------------
>
> $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
> require_once("extensions/SpamBlacklist.php");
> $wgSpamBlacklistFiles = array ("DB: mywikiDB Spam_blacklist");
>
> # mywikiDB is the correct spelling of my database. $wgDBname = "mywikiDB";
>
> # I do have a page called Spam_blacklist copied from META.
>
> ,this is the MESSAGE ERROR I've got:
> "1146: Table ' mywikiDB.pt_cur' doesn't exist (mysql.hosting.com)".

It looks like you are running MW 1.5, the spam blacklist extension was
written against 1.4 and needs to be patched to work with 1.5 which has
no cur table in the database.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SpamBlacklist_extension#Patch_for_1.5_Compati
bility

includes the patch. Read it carefully and note that the spam list
article needs to be moved the MediaWiki namespace, which is the
namespace where all the system messages exist.

> require_once("extensions/inputbox.php");
> #this call is working fine! Which makes sure that the path is ok.

No it doesn't. Require_once is a php language directive which searches
for the file to be included in several places according to the include
path.

The code in the spamblacklist extension only uses the complete file
path you specify.  The readme file examples start with $IP/... where
$IP is the variable set near the beginning of Localsettings.php and
holds the path to where mediawiki is installed.

--
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From mauro at carmo.ws  Sun Dec 18 05:59:53 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 21:59:53 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] "you have new message"
Message-ID: <20051218060004.0D1061AC1815@mail.wikimedia.org>

Hi everyone,

I received one message in my User_talk page. So, as usual I was noticed by
an orange message in front of my content area. 

I've check out my User_talk, but the orange message still persists.

Is there some change I have to do in order to this message disappears?

Thanks a lot, mauro.


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From brion at pobox.com  Sun Dec 18 06:45:27 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 22:45:27 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] "you have new message"
In-Reply-To: <20051218060004.0D1061AC1815@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051218060004.0D1061AC1815@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <43A50587.9030708@pobox.com>

Mauro do Carmo wrote:
> I received one message in my User_talk page. So, as usual I was noticed by
> an orange message in front of my content area. 
> 
> I've check out my User_talk, but the orange message still persists.
> 
> Is there some change I have to do in order to this message disappears?

http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3805

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From mauro at carmo.ws  Sun Dec 18 07:38:45 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:38:45 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php
In-Reply-To: <20051218053010.4333F1AC01AD@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <20051218073855.ECE371AC01AD@mail.wikimedia.org>

Hi Rick & all,

I just forgot about this question:

Since I have several words and sentences which I don't want my
'collaborators'(vandals) to use, I though it my have some way to put all
those words and sentences in a list. Some think like SpamBlacklist, but to
work with words and sentences instead of URLs, files.

I know I can use $wgSpamRegex. However, it would really become cumbersome,
since I have several words and plus several sentences I don't want to be
used.

Any idea? Any help is much appreciated. 

Thanks, mauro.



-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mauro do Carmo
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 9:30 PM
To: 'MediaWiki announcements and site admin list'
Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php

Thnaks Rick & all,

I get Spam blacklist working!

[]'s
mauro.



-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rick DeNatale
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 6:54 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php

On 12/17/05, Mauro do Carmo <mauro at carmo.ws> wrote:
> Thanks Rick,
>
> All is lookinf fine, but it doesn't work. I've tried with DB, and with a
> list as well as I report here in case 1), and case 2).
>
> Please, if you get a chance, get a look, and let me know where I mistaken.
>
> Thanks a lot, mauro.
>
> 1)--------------using ("DB: mywikiDB
Spam_blacklist");---------------------
> --------my LocalSettings.php --------------
>
> $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
> require_once("extensions/SpamBlacklist.php");
> $wgSpamBlacklistFiles = array ("DB: mywikiDB Spam_blacklist");
>
> # mywikiDB is the correct spelling of my database. $wgDBname = "mywikiDB";
>
> # I do have a page called Spam_blacklist copied from META.
>
> ,this is the MESSAGE ERROR I've got:
> "1146: Table ' mywikiDB.pt_cur' doesn't exist (mysql.hosting.com)".

It looks like you are running MW 1.5, the spam blacklist extension was
written against 1.4 and needs to be patched to work with 1.5 which has
no cur table in the database.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SpamBlacklist_extension#Patch_for_1.5_Compati
bility

includes the patch. Read it carefully and note that the spam list
article needs to be moved the MediaWiki namespace, which is the
namespace where all the system messages exist.

> require_once("extensions/inputbox.php");
> #this call is working fine! Which makes sure that the path is ok.

No it doesn't. Require_once is a php language directive which searches
for the file to be included in several places according to the include
path.

The code in the spamblacklist extension only uses the complete file
path you specify.  The readme file examples start with $IP/... where
$IP is the variable set near the beginning of Localsettings.php and
holds the path to where mediawiki is installed.

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From mauro at carmo.ws  Sun Dec 18 07:38:45 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2005 23:38:45 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] "you have new message"
In-Reply-To: <43A50587.9030708@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <20051218073856.02C8F1AC01AD@mail.wikimedia.org>

Thanks Brion, it is working fine! mauro.



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From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Brion Vibber
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 10:45 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] "you have new message"

Mauro do Carmo wrote:
> I received one message in my User_talk page. So, as usual I was noticed by
> an orange message in front of my content area. 
> 
> I've check out my User_talk, but the orange message still persists.
> 
> Is there some change I have to do in order to this message disappears?

http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3805

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From WikiAdmin at PersonalBacon.com  Sun Dec 18 08:15:12 2005
From: WikiAdmin at PersonalBacon.com (Maurice Rabb)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 02:15:12 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Userspaces and groups permissions
In-Reply-To: <1e55af990512151339k27e1dc06n62bdc0db7fef5380@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7C18CD7C51F63148AC345C1972BDFB9ECD5C43@exchange2000.cologne.tecdoc.local>
	<1e55af990512151339k27e1dc06n62bdc0db7fef5380@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BF90EA4B-14F8-4ADB-A686-10D7F7E5E5B0@PersonalBacon.com>

Dear Sy Ali,

I had the same problem until I noticed that there is a link to a  
patch at bug 1924, embedded in the Possible_solution (Namespace-Based  
Restriction) section of Hidden Pages.

	http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1924

I modified the wiki so that it is more obvious.  Check out:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hidden_pages#Possible_solution_. 
28Namespace-Based_Restriction.29

If this works, you might want to delete your comments below on that  
page:

     * Patching what?
     * This doesn't work for me. -- Sy / (talk) 15:31, 16 December  
2005 (UTC)

Good luck!

Maurice


On Dec 15, 2005, at 15:39, Sy Ali wrote:
>
> I've tried this and it doesn't work.  I've also modified it and also
> tried the example given in http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hidden_pages
> .. nothing works.
>
> Any user can edit and see any document in that namespace.

> On 11/29/05, Schmidt, Torsten <torsten.schmidt at tecdoc.net> wrote:
>> http://entwicklung/mediawiki/index.php/testnamespace:Restriction_Test
>>
>> Here is my Part of the LocalSettings.php where i've done this:
>>     221 # create Test-ExtraNamespace:
>>     222 $wgExtraNamespaces =
>>     223         array(100 => "testnamespace",
>>     224               101 => "testnamespace_talk"
>>     225               );
>>     226
>>     227 # restrict access to this extra-namespace
>>     228 $wgRestrictedNamespaces =
>>     229         array(100 => "testgroup",
>>     230               101 => "testgroup"
>>     231              );
>>     232 # allow only 'sysop' and 'testgroup' for  
>> restrictedNamespace 'testnamespace'
>>     233 $wgGroupPermissions['sysop']['testgroup'] = true;
>>     234 $wgGroupPermissions['testgroup']['testgroup'] = true;
>>     235
>>     236 $wgGroupPermissions['testgroup']['read']           = true;
>>     237 #$wgGroupPermissions['testgroup' ]['edit']          = false;
>>     238
>>
>> Then, you can create a Page using the following link:
>>
>> [[testnamespace:foobar]]
>>
>> After this, the page 'foobar' can be viewed / edited only by the  
>> groupes you defined above.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Torsten


From smolensk at eunet.yu  Sun Dec 18 09:02:41 2005
From: smolensk at eunet.yu (Nikola Smolenski)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 10:02:41 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Two new extensions
Message-ID: <200512181002.41144.smolensk@eunet.yu>

I made two new MediaWiki extensions.

1) Poem Extension. A very simple extension, which only adds a line break at 
the end of each line between <poem></poem> tags, which can be truly useful 
for, err, poems. Its page is at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Poem_Extension

2) ShowHide Extension. A bit more complex extension, which enables you to make 
a portion of wiki page which could be shown or hidden, as ToC could be now. 
Its page is at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ShowHide_Extension

Please tell me what do you think of them :)


From ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au  Sun Dec 18 10:08:43 2005
From: ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au (Laurie Lewis)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:08:43 +1100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php
In-Reply-To: <20051218073855.ECE371AC01AD@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <000001c603bb$075a1670$661aa8c0@airedale>

How do you configure the SpamBlacklist to use a page in the MediaWiki
namespace when you have multiple wikis being separated by the use of a
prefix.  The configuration asks you for a database name - I would assume
that it will look for a default table name - can you tell it to use one
of the tables with a prefix eg en_.

Laurie

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mauro do Carmo
Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2005 6:39 PM
To: 'MediaWiki announcements and site admin list'
Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php

Hi Rick & all,

I just forgot about this question:

Since I have several words and sentences which I don't want my
'collaborators'(vandals) to use, I though it my have some way to put all
those words and sentences in a list. Some think like SpamBlacklist, but
to
work with words and sentences instead of URLs, files.

I know I can use $wgSpamRegex. However, it would really become
cumbersome,
since I have several words and plus several sentences I don't want to be
used.

Any idea? Any help is much appreciated. 

Thanks, mauro.



-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mauro do Carmo
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 9:30 PM
To: 'MediaWiki announcements and site admin list'
Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php

Thnaks Rick & all,

I get Spam blacklist working!

[]'s
mauro.



-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rick DeNatale
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 6:54 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php

On 12/17/05, Mauro do Carmo <mauro at carmo.ws> wrote:
> Thanks Rick,
>
> All is lookinf fine, but it doesn't work. I've tried with DB, and with
a
> list as well as I report here in case 1), and case 2).
>
> Please, if you get a chance, get a look, and let me know where I
mistaken.
>
> Thanks a lot, mauro.
>
> 1)--------------using ("DB: mywikiDB
Spam_blacklist");---------------------
> --------my LocalSettings.php --------------
>
> $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
> require_once("extensions/SpamBlacklist.php");
> $wgSpamBlacklistFiles = array ("DB: mywikiDB Spam_blacklist");
>
> # mywikiDB is the correct spelling of my database. $wgDBname =
"mywikiDB";
>
> # I do have a page called Spam_blacklist copied from META.
>
> ,this is the MESSAGE ERROR I've got:
> "1146: Table ' mywikiDB.pt_cur' doesn't exist (mysql.hosting.com)".

It looks like you are running MW 1.5, the spam blacklist extension was
written against 1.4 and needs to be patched to work with 1.5 which has
no cur table in the database.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SpamBlacklist_extension#Patch_for_1.5_Com
pati
bility

includes the patch. Read it carefully and note that the spam list
article needs to be moved the MediaWiki namespace, which is the
namespace where all the system messages exist.

> require_once("extensions/inputbox.php");
> #this call is working fine! Which makes sure that the path is ok.

No it doesn't. Require_once is a php language directive which searches
for the file to be included in several places according to the include
path.

The code in the spamblacklist extension only uses the complete file
path you specify.  The readme file examples start with $IP/... where
$IP is the variable set near the beginning of Localsettings.php and
holds the path to where mediawiki is installed.

--
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From gregory.szorc at case.edu  Sun Dec 18 15:58:52 2005
From: gregory.szorc at case.edu (Gregory Szorc)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 10:58:52 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php
In-Reply-To: <000001c603bb$075a1670$661aa8c0@airedale>
References: <000001c603bb$075a1670$661aa8c0@airedale>
Message-ID: <43A5873C.7030906@case.edu>

You can specify an HTTP file to parse.  By default, if you don't 
override $wgSpamBlacklistFiles, it defaults to parsing meta's spam list. 
  You just need to add links to your local spam lists.  For example, 
"$wgSpamBlacklistFiles[] = 
http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Spam_blacklist&action=raw&sb_ver=1"

The load on your server might increase a little due to the additional 
page request, but it is probably the simplest solution.  I find grabbing 
blacklist files from popular wiki sites using this method a very 
efficient means of spam protection and it saves me the hassle of 
operating my own blacklist.  A few fall through the cracks, but it is 
really only a few.  YMMV

Gregory Szorc
gregory.szorc at case.edu

Laurie Lewis wrote:
> How do you configure the SpamBlacklist to use a page in the MediaWiki
> namespace when you have multiple wikis being separated by the use of a
> prefix.  The configuration asks you for a database name - I would assume
> that it will look for a default table name - can you tell it to use one
> of the tables with a prefix eg en_.
> 
> Laurie
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mauro do Carmo
> Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2005 6:39 PM
> To: 'MediaWiki announcements and site admin list'
> Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php
> 
> Hi Rick & all,
> 
> I just forgot about this question:
> 
> Since I have several words and sentences which I don't want my
> 'collaborators'(vandals) to use, I though it my have some way to put all
> those words and sentences in a list. Some think like SpamBlacklist, but
> to
> work with words and sentences instead of URLs, files.
> 
> I know I can use $wgSpamRegex. However, it would really become
> cumbersome,
> since I have several words and plus several sentences I don't want to be
> used.
> 
> Any idea? Any help is much appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks, mauro.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mauro do Carmo
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 9:30 PM
> To: 'MediaWiki announcements and site admin list'
> Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php
> 
> Thnaks Rick & all,
> 
> I get Spam blacklist working!
> 
> []'s
> mauro.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rick DeNatale
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 6:54 PM
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php
> 
> On 12/17/05, Mauro do Carmo <mauro at carmo.ws> wrote:
> 
>>Thanks Rick,
>>
>>All is lookinf fine, but it doesn't work. I've tried with DB, and with
> 
> a
> 
>>list as well as I report here in case 1), and case 2).
>>
>>Please, if you get a chance, get a look, and let me know where I
> 
> mistaken.
> 
>>Thanks a lot, mauro.
>>
>>1)--------------using ("DB: mywikiDB
> 
> Spam_blacklist");---------------------
> 
>>--------my LocalSettings.php --------------
>>
>>$wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
>>require_once("extensions/SpamBlacklist.php");
>>$wgSpamBlacklistFiles = array ("DB: mywikiDB Spam_blacklist");
>>
>># mywikiDB is the correct spelling of my database. $wgDBname =
> 
> "mywikiDB";
> 
>># I do have a page called Spam_blacklist copied from META.
>>
>>,this is the MESSAGE ERROR I've got:
>>"1146: Table ' mywikiDB.pt_cur' doesn't exist (mysql.hosting.com)".
> 
> 
> It looks like you are running MW 1.5, the spam blacklist extension was
> written against 1.4 and needs to be patched to work with 1.5 which has
> no cur table in the database.
> 
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SpamBlacklist_extension#Patch_for_1.5_Com
> pati
> bility
> 
> includes the patch. Read it carefully and note that the spam list
> article needs to be moved the MediaWiki namespace, which is the
> namespace where all the system messages exist.
> 
> 
>>require_once("extensions/inputbox.php");
>>#this call is working fine! Which makes sure that the path is ok.
> 
> 
> No it doesn't. Require_once is a php language directive which searches
> for the file to be included in several places according to the include
> path.
> 
> The code in the spamblacklist extension only uses the complete file
> path you specify.  The readme file examples start with $IP/... where
> $IP is the variable set near the beginning of Localsettings.php and
> holds the path to where mediawiki is installed.
> 
> --
> Rick DeNatale
> 
> Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
> http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/
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From shardsofmetal at gmail.com  Sun Dec 18 18:46:03 2005
From: shardsofmetal at gmail.com (shardsofmetal)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 13:46:03 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Merging user data between IPB 1.3 and MediaWiki 1.5
Message-ID: <4acc0dcc0512181046n6ef9311es123cd18d77960ac0@mail.gmail.com>

I am trying to merge user data between IPB 1.3.1 and MediaWiki 1.5. However,
there are a couple things that I need to know.

1. How can I change the name of the session cookie used in MediaWiki.

2. Is there anywhere (like in the database) that MediaWiki stores the
session information for each user?

3. Where can I make edits to force MediaWiki to add info to another database
also when registering a user? (if necessary, I can move the tables to the
MediaWiki database, but I need to know how to make MediaWiki add info to
another table)

There might be more that I need to know, but that is all for now.

Thank you, shardsofmetal


From wagner.sim88_mw at web.de  Sun Dec 18 19:25:29 2005
From: wagner.sim88_mw at web.de (Simon Wagner)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:25:29 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] The tooltips,the javascript and the translation
Message-ID: <001601c60408$cec6eab0$14b2a8c0@simonwa>



Hello,
some of you may have noticed that the tooltips in your wiki are not translated and are still english.

Well, I wanted to help and try to help MediaWiki by translating the responsible parts of the javascript into German.
I've downloaded the LanguageDe.php, cause i thought there i would find this part of the JS. But i can't find it.
Can you say me wich file i have to edit?

PS: to prevent misunderstanding: I don't want to make this only for my wiki. I want to edit the file and give it to MW, so that in future no one else will have this problem ;-)

-S.W.

From robchur at gmail.com  Sun Dec 18 19:27:26 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 19:27:26 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Merging user data between IPB 1.3 and MediaWiki 1.5
In-Reply-To: <4acc0dcc0512181046n6ef9311es123cd18d77960ac0@mail.gmail.com>
References: <4acc0dcc0512181046n6ef9311es123cd18d77960ac0@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512181127o21b0474ey@mail.gmail.com>

Have you considered looking at the code?


Rob Church

On 18/12/05, shardsofmetal <shardsofmetal at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am trying to merge user data between IPB 1.3.1 and MediaWiki 1.5. However,
> there are a couple things that I need to know.
>
> 1. How can I change the name of the session cookie used in MediaWiki.
>
> 2. Is there anywhere (like in the database) that MediaWiki stores the
> session information for each user?
>
> 3. Where can I make edits to force MediaWiki to add info to another database
> also when registering a user? (if necessary, I can move the tables to the
> MediaWiki database, but I need to know how to make MediaWiki add info to
> another table)
>
> There might be more that I need to know, but that is all for now.
>
> Thank you, shardsofmetal
> _______________________________________________
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> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
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From Arthur at assys.net  Sun Dec 18 19:38:47 2005
From: Arthur at assys.net (Arthur Guy)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 19:38:47 -0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Merging user data between IPB 1.3 and MediaWiki 1.5
Message-ID: <2A86EFBE967DCA498DEDBCB0541E1796636E@zeus.assys.net>

Perhaps an answer a little less blunt!

>Have you considered looking at the code?
>Rob Church

shardsofmetal wrote:
> I am trying to merge user data between IPB 1.3.1 and MediaWiki 1.5.
However, there are a couple things that I need to know.

> 1. How can I change the name of the session cookie used in MediaWiki.
	- This value can be found in the localsettings or
defaultsettings file.

> 2. Is there anywhere (like in the database) that MediaWiki stores the
session information for each user?
	- In the documentation folder the database schema is outlined,
if in doubt look at the database.

> 3. Where can I make edits to force MediaWiki to add info to another
database also when registering a user? (if necessary, I can move the
tables to the MediaWiki database, but I need to know how to make
MediaWiki add info to another table)
	- try the documentation otherwise follow the code

People are much more willing to help when it can be seen that you have
made some effort yourself; if you want to use this software it is
worthwhile looking around the documentation and understanding how it
works.

-Arthur


From f-x.p at laposte.net  Sun Dec 18 19:45:13 2005
From: f-x.p at laposte.net (FxParlant)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:45:13 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] howto $wgDebugLogGroups
Message-ID: <do4ee7$9op$1@sea.gmane.org>

Hi,

I guess the $wgDebugLogGroups array could help me filter the wfDebug
messages, but I haven't got any idea how to set it.

Can someone tell me what to put in the array, and what to put in the
pages to have the messages directed to a special log file.

Thanks a lot
Fran?ois



From f-x.p at laposte.net  Sun Dec 18 19:51:51 2005
From: f-x.p at laposte.net (FxParlant)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:51:51 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: howto $wgDebugLogGroups
In-Reply-To: <do4ee7$9op$1@sea.gmane.org>
References: <do4ee7$9op$1@sea.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <do4eql$ao1$1@sea.gmane.org>

Got mixed up by the wfDebug function, didn't see the wfDebugLog(...)

Sorry
Fran?ois


FxParlant wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> I guess the $wgDebugLogGroups array could help me filter the wfDebug
> messages, but I haven't got any idea how to set it.
> 
> Can someone tell me what to put in the array, and what to put in the
> pages to have the messages directed to a special log file.
> 
> Thanks a lot
> Fran?ois



From njansen at natuurlijk.nl  Sun Dec 18 20:26:42 2005
From: njansen at natuurlijk.nl (N Jansen)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 21:26:42 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Images no longer displayed
In-Reply-To: <BAY107-DAV8E275CCA388196EDBEF68A53D0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <00d001c60411$5bf6bd90$6500a8c0@atlon2800>

The script is looking for images in the root of the folder images.

After a while i get the message:'max_user_connections' 

N Jansen 

N Jansen wrote:
> After upgrading from 1.4.12 to MW 1.5.3, we found that almost all the 
> images are no longer displayed, and their pages are showing a warning 
> about possible malicious code.
> 
> Any ideas how this happened or how to avoid it? 

maintenance/rebuildImages.php

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From hhassan at tollnz.co.nz  Sun Dec 18 21:49:50 2005
From: hhassan at tollnz.co.nz (Halah Hassan)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:49:50 +1300
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediWiki ACL
Message-ID: <49D294A7F272B4438355D7343777A9945D0A1B@kingpin.tranzrail.co.nz>

HI,

I need some help in setting up access control list for users. What i am
trying to implement is a bit more than what MediaWiki 1.5.3 supports.

Our company has a number of different business units, each of which wants to
have its own restricted area on the wiki that is only accessible by the
users in that specific business unit.

What i need to implement is as follows:

Groups - each group has a number of people in it ( this i have done)

Then i want to create pages that belong to a group and if the pages are
restricted then they are only visible to the members of the group and
restricted to other users.

I have managed to create namespaces for the differnet business units we have
and have done groups for each business unit. But i do not know how to
restrict pages of a name space to a certain group only???

Anyone done anything similar? or have any ideas of how i can implement this?

thanks


From forrie at forrie.com  Sun Dec 18 23:45:42 2005
From: forrie at forrie.com (Forrest Aldrich)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 18:45:42 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Saving web pages -> Wiki?
Message-ID: <43A5F4A6.8060402@forrie.com>

I want to begin archiving some web content into the wiki - under 
tutorials, articles, et al.

I wonder if someone has a means by which to take the downloaded 
images/code (strip ads, and unwanted garbage) and convert it to 
MediaWiki format... then store it in the designated location.




From marriba at miguel-de-arriba.com  Sun Dec 18 23:49:12 2005
From: marriba at miguel-de-arriba.com (Miguel de Arriba)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 17:49:12 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Images
Message-ID: <43A5F578.000003.01968@X-1>

 
He instalado MediaWiki en mi hosting para crear mi Wiki y a pesar de mi
inexperiencia he conseguido que funcionase.  Sin embargo, cuando pretendo
subir imgenes siempre me da error y no consigo subirlas al servidor.  Qu
debo hacer para que funcione?
 
I have installed MediaWiki in my hosting to create my Wiki and in spite of
my inexperience I have obtained that it worked.  Nevertheless, when I try to
always raise images gives error me and with himself not to raise them the
servant.  
What I must do so that it works?

From WikiAdmin at PersonalBacon.com  Mon Dec 19 00:13:52 2005
From: WikiAdmin at PersonalBacon.com (Maurice Rabb)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 18:13:52 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediWiki ACL
In-Reply-To: <49D294A7F272B4438355D7343777A9945D0A1B@kingpin.tranzrail.co.nz>
References: <49D294A7F272B4438355D7343777A9945D0A1B@kingpin.tranzrail.co.nz>
Message-ID: <55DD16F6-E7AE-4F09-86B9-792BF362149D@PersonalBacon.com>

Dear Halah,

I was able to do exactly the same thing by using the patch described  
on meta.wikipedia's Hidden_pages page.  Check the link below in the  
following thread.

It worked like a charm.

Good luck!

Maurice



Begin forwarded message:
> From: Maurice Rabb <WikiAdmin at PersonalBacon.com>
> Date: December 18, 2005 2:15:12 CST
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki- 
> l at Wikimedia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Userspaces and groups permissions
> Reply-To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki- 
> l at Wikimedia.org>
>
> Dear Sy Ali,
>
> I had the same problem until I noticed that there is a link to a  
> patch at bug 1924, embedded in the Possible_solution (Namespace- 
> Based Restriction) section of Hidden Pages.
>
> 	http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1924
>
> I modified the wiki so that it is more obvious.  Check out:
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hidden_pages#Possible_solution_. 
> 28Namespace-Based_Restriction.29


On Dec 18, 2005, at 15:49, Halah Hassan wrote:

> HI,
>
> I need some help in setting up access control list for users. What  
> i am
> trying to implement is a bit more than what MediaWiki 1.5.3 supports.
>
> Our company has a number of different business units, each of which  
> wants to
> have its own restricted area on the wiki that is only accessible by  
> the
> users in that specific business unit.
>
> What i need to implement is as follows:
>
> Groups - each group has a number of people in it ( this i have done)
>
> Then i want to create pages that belong to a group and if the pages  
> are
> restricted then they are only visible to the members of the group and
> restricted to other users.
>
> I have managed to create namespaces for the differnet business  
> units we have
> and have done groups for each business unit. But i do not know how to
> restrict pages of a name space to a certain group only???
>
> Anyone done anything similar? or have any ideas of how i can  
> implement this?
>
> thanks
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l



From mauro at carmo.ws  Mon Dec 19 00:34:25 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 16:34:25 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php
In-Reply-To: <20051218073855.ECE371AC01AD@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <20051219003441.D813C1AC1790@mail.wikimedia.org>

Hi,

Let me put in another way my question:

Is there any way to use $wgSpamRegex with a separate list of words/sentences
which I don't want to be used in my wiki?

Or, if there is no way to use such separated list with $wgSpamRegex, is
there any problem to put all those words/sentences in my LocalSettings.php
and in doing so, have an enormous LocalSettings.php file? I mean problems
like performance, or even errors for LocalSettings.php should be like it is,
small.

Thanks a lot, mauro.
--------------------------

Server: * PHP Version 4.3.11-dev;
        * Mediawiki: 1.5.3;
        * on Linux, Apache 1.3.31 base environment.
 
Client: * Win XP Home Edition SP2;
        * Browser: FireFox;
        * Extensions: Wikipedia 0.5.2 + Google Bar.

--------------------------
-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mauro do Carmo
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:39 PM
To: 'MediaWiki announcements and site admin list'
Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php

Hi Rick & all,

I just forgot about this question:

Since I have several words and sentences which I don't want my
'collaborators'(vandals) to use, I though it my have some way to put all
those words and sentences in a list. Some think like SpamBlacklist, but to
work with words and sentences instead of URLs, files.

I know I can use $wgSpamRegex. However, it would really become cumbersome,
since I have several words and plus several sentences I don't want to be
used.

Any idea? Any help is much appreciated. 

Thanks, mauro.



-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mauro do Carmo
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 9:30 PM
To: 'MediaWiki announcements and site admin list'
Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php

Thnaks Rick & all,

I get Spam blacklist working!

[]'s
mauro.



-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rick DeNatale
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 6:54 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php

On 12/17/05, Mauro do Carmo <mauro at carmo.ws> wrote:
> Thanks Rick,
>
> All is lookinf fine, but it doesn't work. I've tried with DB, and with a
> list as well as I report here in case 1), and case 2).
>
> Please, if you get a chance, get a look, and let me know where I mistaken.
>
> Thanks a lot, mauro.
>
> 1)--------------using ("DB: mywikiDB
Spam_blacklist");---------------------
> --------my LocalSettings.php --------------
>
> $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
> require_once("extensions/SpamBlacklist.php");
> $wgSpamBlacklistFiles = array ("DB: mywikiDB Spam_blacklist");
>
> # mywikiDB is the correct spelling of my database. $wgDBname = "mywikiDB";
>
> # I do have a page called Spam_blacklist copied from META.
>
> ,this is the MESSAGE ERROR I've got:
> "1146: Table ' mywikiDB.pt_cur' doesn't exist (mysql.hosting.com)".

It looks like you are running MW 1.5, the spam blacklist extension was
written against 1.4 and needs to be patched to work with 1.5 which has
no cur table in the database.

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SpamBlacklist_extension#Patch_for_1.5_Compati
bility

includes the patch. Read it carefully and note that the spam list
article needs to be moved the MediaWiki namespace, which is the
namespace where all the system messages exist.

> require_once("extensions/inputbox.php");
> #this call is working fine! Which makes sure that the path is ok.

No it doesn't. Require_once is a php language directive which searches
for the file to be included in several places according to the include
path.

The code in the spamblacklist extension only uses the complete file
path you specify.  The readme file examples start with $IP/... where
$IP is the variable set near the beginning of Localsettings.php and
holds the path to where mediawiki is installed.

--
Rick DeNatale

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From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Mon Dec 19 00:39:29 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 16:39:29 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] (SQL query hidden)
In-Reply-To: <20051218234606.811EE1AC17CE@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051218234606.811EE1AC17CE@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <DA0BAF9D-704E-44C0-A467-D30A3F7999C3@Bytesmiths.com>

I'm currently getting the following on every page of my MW 1.5.3  
sites. (MW 1.4 sites are working fine.)



I'm pretty sure this is not a database password problem. I can use  
mysql from the command line with the wiki user/pass. Plus, things  
like Special:Allpages work fine -- just none of the pages listed!



Any clues? Anything I can slip into LocalSettings.php to let me see  
the hidden query that's failing?



Never mind -- figgered it out. This is what happens when your innodb  
database is SELECT-only. (I had put "innodb_force_recovery = 4" in  
my.cnf to try to recover a database.)



But I would still like to know how to view such queries, instead of  
them being "hidden".


> Database error
>
> From Bytesmiths
> (Redirected from Main Page)
> A database query syntax error has occurred. This may indicate a bug  
> in the software. The last attempted database query was:
> (SQL query hidden)
> from within function "". MySQL returned error "1030: Got error -1  
> from storage engine (localhost)".
>


:::: People who say it cannot be done should not interrupt those who  
are doing it. -- George Bernard Shaw
:::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Item/99AQ25-27>




From brion at pobox.com  Mon Dec 19 03:07:52 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 19:07:52 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediWiki ACL
In-Reply-To: <49D294A7F272B4438355D7343777A9945D0A1B@kingpin.tranzrail.co.nz>
References: <49D294A7F272B4438355D7343777A9945D0A1B@kingpin.tranzrail.co.nz>
Message-ID: <43A62408.50407@pobox.com>

Halah Hassan wrote:
> I need some help in setting up access control list for users. What i am
> trying to implement is a bit more than what MediaWiki 1.5.3 supports.
> 
> Our company has a number of different business units, each of which wants to
> have its own restricted area on the wiki that is only accessible by the
> users in that specific business unit.

This is not supported. If you really require this functionality in this way, you
should not use MediaWiki, which is designed for open access. We cannot support
or guarantee the security of third-party patches.

Multiple read restrictions within the wiki are *not* supported by MediaWiki, and
unsupported hacks are likely to have security holes. If you really require that
kind of security you should use software which is designed for it.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From brion at pobox.com  Mon Dec 19 03:08:31 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 19:08:31 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] (SQL query hidden)
In-Reply-To: <DA0BAF9D-704E-44C0-A467-D30A3F7999C3@Bytesmiths.com>
References: <20051218234606.811EE1AC17CE@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<DA0BAF9D-704E-44C0-A467-D30A3F7999C3@Bytesmiths.com>
Message-ID: <43A6242F.4030308@pobox.com>

Jan Steinman wrote:
> Any clues? Anything I can slip into LocalSettings.php to let me see the
> hidden query that's failing?

Please see includes/DefaultSettings.php for all available configuration settings.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From gregory.szorc at case.edu  Mon Dec 19 04:27:34 2005
From: gregory.szorc at case.edu (Gregory Szorc)
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 23:27:34 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Watching Wikis with AJAX
Message-ID: <43A636B6.4080809@case.edu>

I have created a special page for MediaWiki that allows you to watch 
activity on your wiki in real-time using AJAX.  You can preview it at 
http://wiki.case.edu/Special:AJAXWatcher

It is still a work in progress, but an extension like this goes a long 
way towards making MediaWiki a better product for real-time 
collaboration.  I haven't excessively tested it across browsers, but it 
works in Firefox 1.5 under Linux.

The source code can be obtained at 
http://opensource.case.edu/projects/MediaWikiHacks/

As always, I am open to any suggestions or observations you may have.

Gregory Szorc
gregory.szorc at case.edu


From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec 19 07:27:38 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 07:27:38 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Images
In-Reply-To: <43A5F578.000003.01968@X-1>
References: <43A5F578.000003.01968@X-1>
Message-ID: <e92136380512182327w52f7760dl@mail.gmail.com>

The text of the error would be useful.


Rob Church

On 18/12/05, Miguel de Arriba <marriba at miguel-de-arriba.com> wrote:
>
> He instalado MediaWiki en mi hosting para crear mi Wiki y a pesar de mi
> inexperiencia he conseguido que funcionase.  Sin embargo, cuando pretendo
> subir imgenes siempre me da error y no consigo subirlas al servidor.  Qu
> debo hacer para que funcione?
>
> I have installed MediaWiki in my hosting to create my Wiki and in spite of
> my inexperience I have obtained that it worked.  Nevertheless, when I try to
> always raise images gives error me and with himself not to raise them the
> servant.
> What I must do so that it works?
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec 19 07:30:08 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 07:30:08 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php
In-Reply-To: <20051219003441.D813C1AC1790@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051218073855.ECE371AC01AD@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<20051219003441.D813C1AC1790@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <e92136380512182330v6ce70268y@mail.gmail.com>

I think, performance-wise, hitting the file system each view is not so
much of a drain. In terms of maintenance, however, keeping a long and
ugly regex. in LocalSettings.php is probably not the way to go.


Rob Church

On 19/12/05, Mauro do Carmo <mauro at carmo.ws> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Let me put in another way my question:
>
> Is there any way to use $wgSpamRegex with a separate list of words/sentences
> which I don't want to be used in my wiki?
>
> Or, if there is no way to use such separated list with $wgSpamRegex, is
> there any problem to put all those words/sentences in my LocalSettings.php
> and in doing so, have an enormous LocalSettings.php file? I mean problems
> like performance, or even errors for LocalSettings.php should be like it is,
> small.
>
> Thanks a lot, mauro.
> --------------------------
>
> Server: * PHP Version 4.3.11-dev;
>         * Mediawiki: 1.5.3;
>         * on Linux, Apache 1.3.31 base environment.
>
> Client: * Win XP Home Edition SP2;
>         * Browser: FireFox;
>         * Extensions: Wikipedia 0.5.2 + Google Bar.
>
> --------------------------
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mauro do Carmo
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 11:39 PM
> To: 'MediaWiki announcements and site admin list'
> Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php
>
> Hi Rick & all,
>
> I just forgot about this question:
>
> Since I have several words and sentences which I don't want my
> 'collaborators'(vandals) to use, I though it my have some way to put all
> those words and sentences in a list. Some think like SpamBlacklist, but to
> work with words and sentences instead of URLs, files.
>
> I know I can use $wgSpamRegex. However, it would really become cumbersome,
> since I have several words and plus several sentences I don't want to be
> used.
>
> Any idea? Any help is much appreciated.
>
> Thanks, mauro.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Mauro do Carmo
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 9:30 PM
> To: 'MediaWiki announcements and site admin list'
> Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php
>
> Thnaks Rick & all,
>
> I get Spam blacklist working!
>
> []'s
> mauro.
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Rick DeNatale
> Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2005 6:54 PM
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] SpamBlacklist.php
>
> On 12/17/05, Mauro do Carmo <mauro at carmo.ws> wrote:
> > Thanks Rick,
> >
> > All is lookinf fine, but it doesn't work. I've tried with DB, and with a
> > list as well as I report here in case 1), and case 2).
> >
> > Please, if you get a chance, get a look, and let me know where I mistaken.
> >
> > Thanks a lot, mauro.
> >
> > 1)--------------using ("DB: mywikiDB
> Spam_blacklist");---------------------
> > --------my LocalSettings.php --------------
> >
> > $wgSpamRegex="/overflow:auto/";
> > require_once("extensions/SpamBlacklist.php");
> > $wgSpamBlacklistFiles = array ("DB: mywikiDB Spam_blacklist");
> >
> > # mywikiDB is the correct spelling of my database. $wgDBname = "mywikiDB";
> >
> > # I do have a page called Spam_blacklist copied from META.
> >
> > ,this is the MESSAGE ERROR I've got:
> > "1146: Table ' mywikiDB.pt_cur' doesn't exist (mysql.hosting.com)".
>
> It looks like you are running MW 1.5, the spam blacklist extension was
> written against 1.4 and needs to be patched to work with 1.5 which has
> no cur table in the database.
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SpamBlacklist_extension#Patch_for_1.5_Compati
> bility
>
> includes the patch. Read it carefully and note that the spam list
> article needs to be moved the MediaWiki namespace, which is the
> namespace where all the system messages exist.
>
> > require_once("extensions/inputbox.php");
> > #this call is working fine! Which makes sure that the path is ok.
>
> No it doesn't. Require_once is a php language directive which searches
> for the file to be included in several places according to the include
> path.
>
> The code in the spamblacklist extension only uses the complete file
> path you specify.  The readme file examples start with $IP/... where
> $IP is the variable set near the beginning of Localsettings.php and
> holds the path to where mediawiki is installed.
>
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
> http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/
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From tiborhaunit at web.de  Mon Dec 19 08:50:55 2005
From: tiborhaunit at web.de (tibor haunit)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:50:55 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Building navigation bar
Message-ID: <187221257@web.de>


Hi,

I work with the new MediaWiki 1.5.3. Is there a possibility to create a navigation bar, where a target of a link opens in a new window ?

Greetings

Tibor
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From nina.kerimi at se.calyon.com  Mon Dec 19 09:41:13 2005
From: nina.kerimi at se.calyon.com (Nina Kerimi)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:41:13 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] navigation bar
Message-ID: <OFBF3A5D51.D49B5C5A-ONC12570DC.0034F2EC-C12570DC.0034CAFF@prod.par.ca-indosuez.com>

Hello,
I have looked everywhere but I cannot find where I can change the 
navigation bar links to the ones I want. I read 
(http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Customization:Quickbar#Changing_the_makeup_of_the_Quickbar_by_altering_.24wgNavigationLinks) 
that I can just edit the localsettings with the following lines:

 
  $wgNavigationLinks = array (
        array( 'text'=>'mainpage', 'href'=>'mainpage' ),
        array( 'text'=>'portal', 'href'=>'portal-url' ),
        array( 'text'=>'currentevents', 'href'=>'currentevents-url' ),
        array( 'text'=>'mylink', 'href'=>'mylink-url' ),
        array( 'text'=>'help', 'href'=>'helppage' ),
        array( 'text'=>'sitesupport', 'href'=>'sitesupport-url' )
but I dont have those in my localsetting.php even thought I have version 
1.5....



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From tiborhaunit at web.de  Mon Dec 19 10:17:43 2005
From: tiborhaunit at web.de (tibor haunit)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:17:43 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] navigation bar
Message-ID: <187357557@web.de>


Hi Nina,

thank your for answering. Perhaps I didn't explaned my problem in a wrong way.

In Mediawiki in version 1.5.3 you have the possibility to include a navigation bar in an easier way as before. You can put [[Mediawiki:Sidebar]] on a site. Follow this link and your navigation bar will look like this

* Navigation
** mainpage | mainpage
** contact | contact

In this way, you get a navigation bar with the heading "Navigation" and with the items "mainpage" and "contact". 
When you follow the links "mainpage" and "contact" this sites will appear in the same window as the old window before. 
Now, I want to know, is there a possability to create a link or item in this sidebar, which opens in new window and not in the same window. Perhaps with XHTML?

Greetings

Tibor 



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From T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de  Mon Dec 19 11:55:07 2005
From: T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de (Vasiliadis, Thomas)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:55:07 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Change the Navigation Bar
Message-ID: <D44B7B2E5EDC0C44A023008CF062E4000F82DD@server.worms.schlemmerblock.de>

Hi,

Im using:

MediaWiki: 1.5.3 
PHP: 5.0.5 (apache2handler) 
MySQL: 5.0.15-nt 

And I like to Change the Navigation bar on the left hand side, but I
didn't figure out how.
Can anybody help me?

Thanks

TV


From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec 19 12:00:41 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:00:41 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Change the Navigation Bar
In-Reply-To: <D44B7B2E5EDC0C44A023008CF062E4000F82DD@server.worms.schlemmerblock.de>
References: <D44B7B2E5EDC0C44A023008CF062E4000F82DD@server.worms.schlemmerblock.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512190400i1847282fo@mail.gmail.com>

Of course, you searched the documentation thoroughly and found
http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Navigation_bar&oldid=224271,
right?


Rob Church

On 19/12/05, Vasiliadis, Thomas <T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Im using:
>
> MediaWiki: 1.5.3
> PHP: 5.0.5 (apache2handler)
> MySQL: 5.0.15-nt
>
> And I like to Change the Navigation bar on the left hand side, but I
> didn't figure out how.
> Can anybody help me?
>
> Thanks
>
> TV
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From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec 19 12:01:06 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:01:06 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] navigation bar
In-Reply-To: <187357557@web.de>
References: <187357557@web.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512190401v4b47105fv@mail.gmail.com>

http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Navigation_bar&oldid=224271


Rob Church

On 19/12/05, tibor haunit <tiborhaunit at web.de> wrote:
>
> Hi Nina,
>
> thank your for answering. Perhaps I didn't explaned my problem in a wrong way.
>
> In Mediawiki in version 1.5.3 you have the possibility to include a navigation bar in an easier way as before. You can put [[Mediawiki:Sidebar]] on a site. Follow this link and your navigation bar will look like this
>
> * Navigation
> ** mainpage | mainpage
> ** contact | contact
>
> In this way, you get a navigation bar with the heading "Navigation" and with the items "mainpage" and "contact".
> When you follow the links "mainpage" and "contact" this sites will appear in the same window as the old window before.
> Now, I want to know, is there a possability to create a link or item in this sidebar, which opens in new window and not in the same window. Perhaps with XHTML?
>
> Greetings
>
> Tibor
>
>
>
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From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec 19 12:02:01 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 12:02:01 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Building navigation bar
In-Reply-To: <187221257@web.de>
References: <187221257@web.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512190402j510f5cf7j@mail.gmail.com>

The "target" attribute on links has been deprecated by the W3C. Have
you tried it and seen whether or not the MW parser/link handler
acknowledges the attribute?


Rob Church

On 19/12/05, tibor haunit <tiborhaunit at web.de> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I work with the new MediaWiki 1.5.3. Is there a possibility to create a navigation bar, where a target of a link opens in a new window ?
>
> Greetings
>
> Tibor
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From tiborhaunit at web.de  Mon Dec 19 12:14:37 2005
From: tiborhaunit at web.de (tibor haunit)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:14:37 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Building navigation bar
Message-ID: <187582744@web.de>

Hi Rob,

yes I tried the attribute "target" in the Sidebar, but it didn't worked. 

Greetings

Tibor


MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org> schrieb am 19.12.05 13:02:42:
> 
> The "target" attribute on links has been deprecated by the W3C. Have
> you tried it and seen whether or not the MW parser/link handler
> acknowledges the attribute?
> 
> 
> Rob Church
> 
> On 19/12/05, tibor haunit <tiborhaunit at web.de> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > I work with the new MediaWiki 1.5.3. Is there a possibility to create a navigation bar, where a target of a link opens in a new window ?
> >
> > Greetings
> >
> > Tibor
> > ______________________________________________________________________
> > XXL-Speicher, PC-Virenschutz, Spartarife & mehr: Nur im WEB.DE Club!
> > Jetzt gratis testen! http://freemail.web.de/home/landingpad/?mc=021130
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From tiborhaunit at web.de  Mon Dec 19 12:28:07 2005
From: tiborhaunit at web.de (tibor haunit)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:28:07 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Change the Navigation Bar
Message-ID: <187609770@web.de>

Hi,

create a link on a site like this one [[Mediawiki:Sidebar]] und follow the link.
How to change the navigation bar see here: 

http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Navigation_bar&oldid=224271


Tibor


MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org> schrieb am 19.12.05 13:17:18:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Im using:
> 
> MediaWiki: 1.5.3 
> PHP: 5.0.5 (apache2handler) 
> MySQL: 5.0.15-nt 
> 
> And I like to Change the Navigation bar on the left hand side, but I
> didn't figure out how.
> Can anybody help me?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> TV
> _______________________________________________
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> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Mon Dec 19 13:19:06 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 08:19:06 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Images
In-Reply-To: <43A5F578.000003.01968@X-1>
References: <43A5F578.000003.01968@X-1>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512190519m49473857i94265300847e40e6@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/18/05, Miguel de Arriba <marriba at miguel-de-arriba.com> wrote:
>
> He instalado MediaWiki en mi hosting para crear mi Wiki y a pesar de mi
> inexperiencia he conseguido que funcionase.  Sin embargo, cuando pretendo
> subir imgenes siempre me da error y no consigo subirlas al servidor.  Qu
> debo hacer para que funcione?
>
> I have installed MediaWiki in my hosting to create my Wiki and in spite of
> my inexperience I have obtained that it worked.  Nevertheless, when I try to
> always raise images gives error me and with himself not to raise them the
> servant.
> What I must do so that it works?

If I understand correctly you are having trouble uploading images. 
This feature isn't enabled by default. You need to make some changes
in your LocalSettings.php file

see: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/LocalSettings.php#Image_Uploads
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From T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de  Mon Dec 19 13:23:09 2005
From: T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de (Vasiliadis, Thomas)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:23:09 +0100
Subject: AW: [Mediawiki-l] Change the Navigation Bar
Message-ID: <D44B7B2E5EDC0C44A023008CF062E4000F82DE@server.worms.schlemmerblock.de>

Thanks a lot, it works fine.
By the way, is it correct, that I must not change the DefaultSettings.php, instead I can do all changes in the LocalSettings.php?

TV

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von tibor haunit
Gesendet: Montag, 19. Dezember 2005 13:49
An: MediaWikiannouncementsandsiteadminlist
Betreff: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Change the Navigation Bar

Hi,

create a link on a site like this one [[Mediawiki:Sidebar]] und follow the link.
How to change the navigation bar see here: 

http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Navigation_bar&oldid=224271


Tibor


MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org> schrieb am 19.12.05 13:17:18:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Im using:
> 
> MediaWiki: 1.5.3 
> PHP: 5.0.5 (apache2handler) 
> MySQL: 5.0.15-nt 
> 
> And I like to Change the Navigation bar on the left hand side, but I
> didn't figure out how.
> Can anybody help me?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> TV
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From tiborhaunit at web.de  Mon Dec 19 13:27:14 2005
From: tiborhaunit at web.de (tibor haunit)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:27:14 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Change the Navigation Bar
Message-ID: <187730128@web.de>

Hi,

if you want to change only the navigation bar, you don't need change the LocalSettings.php. As I wrote before, you can change the navigation bar easy in MediaWiki-Editor.

Tibor 


MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org> schrieb am 19.12.05 14:24:13:
> 
> Thanks a lot, it works fine.
> By the way, is it correct, that I must not change the DefaultSettings.php, instead I can do all changes in the LocalSettings.php?
> 
> TV
> 
> -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> Von: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von tibor haunit
> Gesendet: Montag, 19. Dezember 2005 13:49
> An: MediaWikiannouncementsandsiteadminlist
> Betreff: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Change the Navigation Bar
> 
> Hi,
> 
> create a link on a site like this one [[Mediawiki:Sidebar]] und follow the link.
> How to change the navigation bar see here: 
> 
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Navigation_bar&oldid=224271
> 
> 
> Tibor
> 
> 
> MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org> schrieb am 19.12.05 13:17:18:
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Im using:
> > 
> > MediaWiki: 1.5.3 
> > PHP: 5.0.5 (apache2handler) 
> > MySQL: 5.0.15-nt 
> > 
> > And I like to Change the Navigation bar on the left hand side, but I
> > didn't figure out how.
> > Can anybody help me?
> > 
> > Thanks
> > 
> > TV
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> 
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From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec 19 13:52:00 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:52:00 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Building navigation bar
In-Reply-To: <187582744@web.de>
References: <187582744@web.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512190552i1eba9e49h@mail.gmail.com>

And that is the answer to the original question. Without alteration to
the skin code (which would mean you'd be putting out invalid XHTML),
MediaWiki doesn't support the described feature.


Rob Church

On 19/12/05, tibor haunit <tiborhaunit at web.de> wrote:
> Hi Rob,
>
> yes I tried the attribute "target" in the Sidebar, but it didn't worked.
>
> Greetings
>
> Tibor
>
>
> MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org> schrieb am 19.12.05 13:02:42:
> >
> > The "target" attribute on links has been deprecated by the W3C. Have
> > you tried it and seen whether or not the MW parser/link handler
> > acknowledges the attribute?
> >
> >
> > Rob Church
> >
> > On 19/12/05, tibor haunit <tiborhaunit at web.de> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > I work with the new MediaWiki 1.5.3. Is there a possibility to create a navigation bar, where a target of a link opens in a new window ?
> > >
> > > Greetings
> > >
> > > Tibor
> > > ______________________________________________________________________
> > > XXL-Speicher, PC-Virenschutz, Spartarife & mehr: Nur im WEB.DE Club!
> > > Jetzt gratis testen! http://freemail.web.de/home/landingpad/?mc=021130
> > >
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From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec 19 13:53:26 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 13:53:26 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Change the Navigation Bar
In-Reply-To: <187730128@web.de>
References: <187730128@web.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512190553p2691f6abj@mail.gmail.com>

...but, yes; changing DefaultSettings.php shouldn't be done, as these
aren't preserved upon upgrading. It's also bad practise...


Rob Church

On 19/12/05, tibor haunit <tiborhaunit at web.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> if you want to change only the navigation bar, you don't need change the LocalSettings.php. As I wrote before, you can change the navigation bar easy in MediaWiki-Editor.
>
> Tibor
>
>
> MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org> schrieb am 19.12.05 14:24:13:
> >
> > Thanks a lot, it works fine.
> > By the way, is it correct, that I must not change the DefaultSettings.php, instead I can do all changes in the LocalSettings.php?
> >
> > TV
> >
> > -----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von tibor haunit
> > Gesendet: Montag, 19. Dezember 2005 13:49
> > An: MediaWikiannouncementsandsiteadminlist
> > Betreff: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Change the Navigation Bar
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > create a link on a site like this one [[Mediawiki:Sidebar]] und follow the link.
> > How to change the navigation bar see here:
> >
> > http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Help:Navigation_bar&oldid=224271
> >
> >
> > Tibor
> >
> >
> > MediaWiki announcements and site admin list <mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org> schrieb am 19.12.05 13:17:18:
> > >
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Im using:
> > >
> > > MediaWiki: 1.5.3
> > > PHP: 5.0.5 (apache2handler)
> > > MySQL: 5.0.15-nt
> > >
> > > And I like to Change the Navigation bar on the left hand side, but I
> > > didn't figure out how.
> > > Can anybody help me?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > TV
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Mon Dec 19 14:37:04 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 09:37:04 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Change the Navigation Bar
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512190553p2691f6abj@mail.gmail.com>
References: <187730128@web.de> <e92136380512190553p2691f6abj@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512190637p7267d554sbcf5228fa9e5dcab@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/19/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> ...but, yes; changing DefaultSettings.php shouldn't be done, as these
> aren't preserved upon upgrading. It's also bad practise...

I don't see where Tibor was advocating changing DefaultSettings.php,
he was talking about editing MediaWiki:Sidebar page which is a new
feature of 1.5

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Navigation_bar

I was a little unsure why your link to this page was to a specific
pre-1.5 edition when the OP clearly said that he was using 1.5.3

--
Rick DeNatale

Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/


From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec 19 14:41:23 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:41:23 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Change the Navigation Bar
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0512190637p7267d554sbcf5228fa9e5dcab@mail.gmail.com>
References: <187730128@web.de> <e92136380512190553p2691f6abj@mail.gmail.com>
	<deb2337a0512190637p7267d554sbcf5228fa9e5dcab@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512190641t349e2503p@mail.gmail.com>

My link *should* have been to the finished version of it which applied
to 1.5.x - I cleaned it up myself a while back, and a few others have
added to it/corrected typos etc. Basically, I linked to that clean
version, minus the template clutter; apologies if I clicked on the
wrong revision or absentmindedly copied the wrong URL or whatever.

I think the confusion over DefaultSettings.php comes from him not
removing this thread's subject before responding to some other query.


Rob Church

On 19/12/05, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/19/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > ...but, yes; changing DefaultSettings.php shouldn't be done, as these
> > aren't preserved upon upgrading. It's also bad practise...
>
> I don't see where Tibor was advocating changing DefaultSettings.php,
> he was talking about editing MediaWiki:Sidebar page which is a new
> feature of 1.5
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Navigation_bar
>
> I was a little unsure why your link to this page was to a specific
> pre-1.5 edition when the OP clearly said that he was using 1.5.3
>
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
> http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From U.Baumbach at web.de  Mon Dec 19 13:32:28 2005
From: U.Baumbach at web.de (Uwe Baumbach)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:32:28 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Mediawiki 1.5.3 on PHP5?
Message-ID: <280109323@web.de>

Hi there,

searching for "pros and cons" of running Mediawiki 1.5.1 or later on Debian sarge/Apache 2/MySQL 4.1.11 whether on PHP 4.x or 5.y I cannot find related docu.

Can anybody recommend valuable arguments (URLs) ?

Thanks in advance.

Uwe?(Baumbach)
U.Baumbach at web.de


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From sy1234 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 19 18:38:48 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:38:48 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Userspaces and groups permissions
In-Reply-To: <BF90EA4B-14F8-4ADB-A686-10D7F7E5E5B0@PersonalBacon.com>
References: <7C18CD7C51F63148AC345C1972BDFB9ECD5C43@exchange2000.cologne.tecdoc.local>
	<1e55af990512151339k27e1dc06n62bdc0db7fef5380@mail.gmail.com>
	<BF90EA4B-14F8-4ADB-A686-10D7F7E5E5B0@PersonalBacon.com>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512191038g7ac4d078nbd6ed3c6d9bdf0a8@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/18/05, Maurice Rabb <WikiAdmin at personalbacon.com> wrote:
> Dear Sy Ali,
>
> I had the same problem until I noticed that there is a link to a
> patch at bug 1924, embedded in the Possible_solution (Namespace-Based
> Restriction) section of Hidden Pages.
>
>         http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1924
>
> I modified the wiki so that it is more obvious.  Check out:
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Hidden_pages#Possible_solution_.
> 28Namespace-Based_Restriction.29

Thanks for leading me down the right road.  I don't want to go so far
as to work with hackish solutions.  To get this functionality, I'll
have to wait for a mediawiki fork which does have security.. since
like many others I use mediawiki as a cms.

I can think of a alternate method which would rewrite certain URLs
into protected "directories" which would work fairly well, but
unfortunately I don't nor will I ever understand enough to implement
it myself.


From njansen at natuurlijk.nl  Mon Dec 19 18:45:38 2005
From: njansen at natuurlijk.nl (N Jansen)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 19:45:38 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Upgrade, no images
Message-ID: <029501c604cc$67a6c520$6500a8c0@atlon2800>

Some days ago i asked this question:

--
After upgrading from 1.4.12 to MW 1.5.3, we found that almost all the images
are no longer displayed, and their pages are showing a warning about
possible malicious code. 
Any ideas how this happened or how to avoid it? 
--

I revieved the answer to use the script:

maintenance/rebuildImages.php


I already have used this. It is looking for images in the root of the folder
images. But, the images are placed in the subfolders.

After a while i get the message: "To many users" and "to many connection".

On the internet i have read that there are more websites with this problem.
They also have the images' major_mime_type fields in the database empty.

Anyone a suggestion?

Nanda Jansen




From kothari.vipin at gmail.com  Mon Dec 19 05:10:56 2005
From: kothari.vipin at gmail.com (vipin kothari)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 10:40:56 +0530
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] RSS for Special pages
Message-ID: <7df2cc050512182110n515190eehd95aeb7643dfa57f@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I am using mediawiki 1.4.9 I want to generate RSS feeds of special pages. By
default wiki provides RSS for Special:RecentChanges and Special:Newpages.
But, I want it for Special:categories, Special:Imagelist pages also. If any
one has done it or has any idea how to do this it wud be grt!!!

Thanx in advance
Regards
Vipin


From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec 19 19:14:47 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 19:14:47 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] RSS for Special pages
In-Reply-To: <7df2cc050512182110n515190eehd95aeb7643dfa57f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7df2cc050512182110n515190eehd95aeb7643dfa57f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512191114i7debc788h@mail.gmail.com>

1. MediaWiki 1.5.3 has been released, and is a newer version with
improved features to handle user permissions, interface
customisations, etc. You should consider upgrading.

2. You would need to code the feeds or search the web or mailing list
archives for any information about such extensions coded by other
users.


Rob Church

On 19/12/05, vipin kothari <kothari.vipin at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I am using mediawiki 1.4.9 I want to generate RSS feeds of special pages. By
> default wiki provides RSS for Special:RecentChanges and Special:Newpages.
> But, I want it for Special:categories, Special:Imagelist pages also. If any
> one has done it or has any idea how to do this it wud be grt!!!
>
> Thanx in advance
> Regards
> Vipin
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From gregory.szorc at case.edu  Mon Dec 19 19:19:54 2005
From: gregory.szorc at case.edu (Gregory Szorc)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 14:19:54 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] RSS for Special pages
In-Reply-To: <7df2cc050512182110n515190eehd95aeb7643dfa57f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <7df2cc050512182110n515190eehd95aeb7643dfa57f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43A707DA.30808@case.edu>

I created a script called WikiFeeds that I have powering all of the 
feeds on http://wiki.case.edu .  It supports:

per category feeds
per user feeds
watchlist feeds
recent changes feed
new pages feed

It is written against the 1.5.x database schema, however.  The source 
code is at http://opensource.case.edu/projects/MediaWikiHacks.  I am 
currently in the process of refactoring this script so it itself is a 
special page instead of an external script.  Also, it is written in PHP 5.

Gregory Szorc
gregory.szorc at case.edu

vipin kothari wrote:
> Hi All,
> 
> I am using mediawiki 1.4.9 I want to generate RSS feeds of special pages. By
> default wiki provides RSS for Special:RecentChanges and Special:Newpages.
> But, I want it for Special:categories, Special:Imagelist pages also. If any
> one has done it or has any idea how to do this it wud be grt!!!
> 
> Thanx in advance
> Regards
> Vipin
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l


From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Mon Dec 19 19:31:10 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 19:31:10 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Trying to write a generic wikitext parser
In-Reply-To: <1134860505.28223.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
References: <20051217153356.GA30218@fly.osdn.org.ua>
	<1134860505.28223.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512191131m5d7e0ef7u@mail.gmail.com>

On 17/12/05, Magnus Manske <magnus.manske at web.de> wrote:
> For a wiki-to-XML converter that works reasonably well (a little slow
> though, especially with tables), see CVS, "wiki2xml" module, "php"
> directory. Or:

And for other attempts (just for interest's sake, Magnus's is probably
the most worthy) see
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Alternative_parsers

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Mon Dec 19 19:41:26 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 19:41:26 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] The tooltips,the javascript and the translation
In-Reply-To: <001601c60408$cec6eab0$14b2a8c0@simonwa>
References: <001601c60408$cec6eab0$14b2a8c0@simonwa>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512191141j66787eb5w@mail.gmail.com>

> Well, I wanted to help and try to help MediaWiki by translating the responsible parts of the javascript into German.
> I've downloaded the LanguageDe.php, cause i thought there i would find this part of the JS. But i can't find it.

The message these are defined in is, I believe, "monobook.js" (global
JavaScript for MonoBook skin). There are also some messages called
"tooltip-..." and "accesskey-...", but these are possibly no longer
used (if this can be confirmed, they should be removed from
LanguageXX.php, really). So you were looking in exactly the right
place, I think.

See also http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Monobook.js, for the
German Wikipedia's version (and
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spezial:Allmessages for possible other
translated messages)


[PS in reference to a completely different thread: interesting, the
quoted linebreaks seem to have broken here; GMail using not-so-clever
web forms, I guess...]
--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From brion at pobox.com  Mon Dec 19 19:42:36 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:42:36 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Mediawiki 1.5.3 on PHP5?
In-Reply-To: <280109323@web.de>
References: <280109323@web.de>
Message-ID: <43A70D2C.8030103@pobox.com>

Uwe Baumbach wrote:
> Hi there,
> 
> searching for "pros and cons" of running Mediawiki 1.5.1 or later on Debian
> sarge/Apache 2/MySQL 4.1.11 whether on PHP 4.x or 5.y I cannot find related
> docu.

Either should work equally well with the current 1.5 release.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From Michael.Abshoff at fsmath.mathematik.uni-dortmund.de  Mon Dec 19 20:55:00 2005
From: Michael.Abshoff at fsmath.mathematik.uni-dortmund.de (Michael Abshoff)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 21:55:00 +0100 (CET)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Trying to write a generic wikitext parser
In-Reply-To: <9f02ca4c0512191131m5d7e0ef7u@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051217153356.GA30218@fly.osdn.org.ua>
	<1134860505.28223.17.camel@localhost.localdomain>
	<9f02ca4c0512191131m5d7e0ef7u@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <4729.80.144.202.157.1135025700.squirrel@fsmath.mathematik.uni-dortmund.de>

 On 17/12/05, Magnus Manske <magnus.manske at web.de> wrote:
> For a wiki-to-XML converter that works reasonably well (a little slow
> though, especially with tables), see CVS, "wiki2xml" module, "php"
> directory.

Hey Magnus,

I am definitly interested in helping out. Have you abandoned the C++ stuff
and are you currently working only on the php code?

Is there a better place to discuss the wiki2xml or should it stay on
[Mediawiki-l]?

Cheers,

Michael




From shardsofmetal at gmail.com  Mon Dec 19 23:10:48 2005
From: shardsofmetal at gmail.com (shardsofmetal)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:10:48 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Merging user data between IPB 1.3 and MediaWiki
	1.5
Message-ID: <4acc0dcc0512191510x7c0a0f93t120672ea2266c2f0@mail.gmail.com>

shardsofmetal wrote:
> I am trying to merge user data between IPB 1.3.1 and MediaWiki 1.5.
However, there are a couple things that I need to know.

> 1. How can I change the name of the session cookie used in MediaWiki.
       - This value can be found in the localsettings or
defaultsettings file.

> 2. Is there anywhere (like in the database) that MediaWiki stores the
session information for each user?
       - In the documentation folder the database schema is outlined,
if in doubt look at the database.

> 3. Where can I make edits to force MediaWiki to add info to another
database also when registering a user? (if necessary, I can move the
tables to the MediaWiki database, but I need to know how to make
MediaWiki add info to another table)
       - try the documentation otherwise follow the code

People are much more willing to help when it can be seen that you have
made some effort yourself; if you want to use this software it is
worthwhile looking around the documentation and understanding how it
works.

----------- shardsofmetal --------------

Thank you for your help. Just so that everyone knows, I did look around and
could not find these things. I checked SpecialUserLogin.php and
defaultsettings.php for these things, but could not find anything. However,
I will check again. I was just hoping that maybe somebody knew the specific
places where I could find this stuff, for example, the name of the variable
for the session cookie (if it is in a variable). If anybody knows anything
specific, please let me know. Thank you again for your help, shardsofmetal


From judi_chen at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 20 00:45:52 2005
From: judi_chen at yahoo.com (judi chen)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 16:45:52 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] templates
Message-ID: <20051220004552.40311.qmail@web52306.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi,

I am running MW 1.5.3 on Fedora 4.

I try to use two templates.  In the first templates, I
opened a block with
<div style="display:block; border:1px solid
{{{border}}}; vertical-align:top;
background-color:{{{background}}};
color:{{{foreground}}}; margin-bottom:10px; padding:
1em; margin-top: 0em; padding-top:.3em; ">

But  I donot close this block in the first template.

Then in the second template I tried to close the block
opened in the first template with </div>

But the MW 1.5.3 I am using would not allow me to
close the block. The block got closed prematurely in
the first template.

However the wikipedia.org can do the feature described
above.

Any suggestion on the fix.
Thanks
jc

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From youngi at comcast.net  Tue Dec 20 01:15:40 2005
From: youngi at comcast.net (Isaac Gonzalez)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:15:40 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How do I change the default skin for users that are
	both logged in as well as not logged in?
Message-ID: <004f01c60502$e4af8760$46197443@lan.inventures.com>

When setting the local setting.php to 
$wgDefaultSkin = 'clean'; where clean is my new skin I created, 

I can see the correct skin when I'm not logged in. However, once I log in the default Monobook skin is now displayed. Is there something wrong with my Clean Skin code? or is there something else that I need to do?

From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 01:22:24 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 01:22:24 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How do I change the default skin for users that are
	both logged in as well as not logged in?
In-Reply-To: <004f01c60502$e4af8760$46197443@lan.inventures.com>
References: <004f01c60502$e4af8760$46197443@lan.inventures.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512191722w575c0a96o@mail.gmail.com>

No. Your user preferences override the site default, and those will be
set for Monobook.


Rob Church

On 20/12/05, Isaac Gonzalez <youngi at comcast.net> wrote:
> When setting the local setting.php to
> $wgDefaultSkin = 'clean'; where clean is my new skin I created,
>
> I can see the correct skin when I'm not logged in. However, once I log in the default Monobook skin is now displayed. Is there something wrong with my Clean Skin code? or is there something else that I need to do?
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From youngi at comcast.net  Tue Dec 20 01:31:35 2005
From: youngi at comcast.net (Isaac Gonzalez)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 17:31:35 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How do I change the default skin for users that
	areboth logged in as well as not logged in?
References: <004f01c60502$e4af8760$46197443@lan.inventures.com>
	<e92136380512191722w575c0a96o@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <005401c60505$1dda02c0$46197443@lan.inventures.com>

is there a way to change to user preferences for all users?
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Church" <robchur at gmail.com>
To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" 
<mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 5:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] How do I change the default skin for users that 
areboth logged in as well as not logged in?


No. Your user preferences override the site default, and those will be
set for Monobook.


Rob Church

On 20/12/05, Isaac Gonzalez <youngi at comcast.net> wrote:
> When setting the local setting.php to
> $wgDefaultSkin = 'clean'; where clean is my new skin I created,
>
> I can see the correct skin when I'm not logged in. However, once I log in 
> the default Monobook skin is now displayed. Is there something wrong with 
> my Clean Skin code? or is there something else that I need to do?
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
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From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 01:34:22 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 01:34:22 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How do I change the default skin for users that
	areboth logged in as well as not logged in?
In-Reply-To: <005401c60505$1dda02c0$46197443@lan.inventures.com>
References: <004f01c60502$e4af8760$46197443@lan.inventures.com>
	<e92136380512191722w575c0a96o@mail.gmail.com>
	<005401c60505$1dda02c0$46197443@lan.inventures.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512191734q55c3812cg@mail.gmail.com>

Not a quick one, that I know of. A custom PHP script might do it.


Rob Church

On 20/12/05, Isaac Gonzalez <youngi at comcast.net> wrote:
> is there a way to change to user preferences for all users?
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Rob Church" <robchur at gmail.com>
> To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list"
> <mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org>
> Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 5:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] How do I change the default skin for users that
> areboth logged in as well as not logged in?
>
>
> No. Your user preferences override the site default, and those will be
> set for Monobook.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 20/12/05, Isaac Gonzalez <youngi at comcast.net> wrote:
> > When setting the local setting.php to
> > $wgDefaultSkin = 'clean'; where clean is my new skin I created,
> >
> > I can see the correct skin when I'm not logged in. However, once I log in
> > the default Monobook skin is now displayed. Is there something wrong with
> > my Clean Skin code? or is there something else that I need to do?
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
> _______________________________________________
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> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From JohnsonA at rembrandt.co.nz  Tue Dec 20 01:46:01 2005
From: JohnsonA at rembrandt.co.nz (Alistair Johnson)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 14:46:01 +1300
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How do I change the default skin for users that
	areboth logged in as well as not logged in?
Message-ID: <199943BA7E2F324E9E6037FDC476D9941346@rem-srv-01.internal.rembrandt.co.nz>

Here's a script we use to copy preferences from one user to all users for MW
1.4.x. YMMV.

      mysql_connect($wgDBserver,$wgDBuser,$wgDBpassword);
      @mysql_select_db($wgDBname);
      $query="SELECT * FROM " . $wgDBprefix . "user WHERE LOWER(user_name) =
'" . strtolower($name) . "'";
      $result = mysql_query($query);
      $row = mysql_fetch_array($result, MYSQL_ASSOC);
      mysql_close();

      mysql_connect($wgDBserver,$wgDBuser,$wgDBpassword);
      @mysql_select_db($wgDBname);
      $query="UPDATE " . $wgDBprefix . "user SET user_options = '" .
$row[user_options] . "'";
      $result = mysql_query($query);
      mysql_close();

Al. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Church [mailto:robchur at gmail.com] 
Not a quick one, that I know of. A custom PHP script might do it.

On 20/12/05, Isaac Gonzalez <youngi at comcast.net> wrote:
> is there a way to change to user preferences for all users?


From youngi at comcast.net  Tue Dec 20 02:05:25 2005
From: youngi at comcast.net (Isaac Gonzalez)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:05:25 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How do I change the default skin for users
	thatareboth logged in as well as not logged in?
References: <199943BA7E2F324E9E6037FDC476D9941346@rem-srv-01.internal.rembrandt.co.nz>
Message-ID: <005d01c60509$d7f1cb30$46197443@lan.inventures.com>

thanks alot, I'll give this a whirl....on mw 1.5.3.

-Isaac
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Alistair Johnson" <JohnsonA at rembrandt.co.nz>
To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" 
<mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org>
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 5:46 PM
Subject: RE: [Mediawiki-l] How do I change the default skin for users 
thatareboth logged in as well as not logged in?


> Here's a script we use to copy preferences from one user to all users for 
> MW
> 1.4.x. YMMV.
>
>      mysql_connect($wgDBserver,$wgDBuser,$wgDBpassword);
>      @mysql_select_db($wgDBname);
>      $query="SELECT * FROM " . $wgDBprefix . "user WHERE LOWER(user_name) 
> =
> '" . strtolower($name) . "'";
>      $result = mysql_query($query);
>      $row = mysql_fetch_array($result, MYSQL_ASSOC);
>      mysql_close();
>
>      mysql_connect($wgDBserver,$wgDBuser,$wgDBpassword);
>      @mysql_select_db($wgDBname);
>      $query="UPDATE " . $wgDBprefix . "user SET user_options = '" .
> $row[user_options] . "'";
>      $result = mysql_query($query);
>      mysql_close();
>
> Al.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rob Church [mailto:robchur at gmail.com]
> Not a quick one, that I know of. A custom PHP script might do it.
>
> On 20/12/05, Isaac Gonzalez <youngi at comcast.net> wrote:
>> is there a way to change to user preferences for all users?
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From slc at publicus.net  Tue Dec 20 02:18:49 2005
From: slc at publicus.net (Steven Clift)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:18:49 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Anti-spam help
Message-ID: <06ad01c6050b$b708e370$6400a8c0@PUBLICUS2>


E-Democracy.Org is using MediaWiki for various local citizen guides and
non-partisan election information directories:
http://e-democracy.org/wiki

As you can tell we are suffering from spammers.
http://www.e-democracy.org/wiki/Special:Recentchanges

As an all volunteer-based group, we are looking for help to defend our
ability to use MediaWiki. 

What are the main things we need in place to still allow open edits, but
to reduce wiki spam?

Is there any kind of add-on that would require someone to enter a code
from a graphic to save or a way to ban HTML or the hide the crap "div"
code?

Help!

Steven Clift
E-Democracy.Org

Steven Clift - http://publicus.net - Reply to: clift at publicus.net
Join DoWire: http://dowire.org
E-Democracy: http://e-democracy.org



From wiseleyb at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 02:24:46 2005
From: wiseleyb at gmail.com (ben wiseley)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 18:24:46 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Two new extensions
In-Reply-To: <200512181002.41144.smolensk@eunet.yu>
References: <200512181002.41144.smolensk@eunet.yu>
Message-ID: <fc90a7570512191824t2a302be8u4ae9a80adf723764@mail.gmail.com>

the show hide thing is pretty cool - thanks!

On 12/18/05, Nikola Smolenski <smolensk at eunet.yu> wrote:
>
> I made two new MediaWiki extensions.
>
> 1) Poem Extension. A very simple extension, which only adds a line break
> at
> the end of each line between <poem></poem> tags, which can be truly useful
> for, err, poems. Its page is at
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Poem_Extension
>
> 2) ShowHide Extension. A bit more complex extension, which enables you to
> make
> a portion of wiki page which could be shown or hidden, as ToC could be
> now.
> Its page is at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ShowHide_Extension
>
> Please tell me what do you think of them :)
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From brion at pobox.com  Tue Dec 20 03:13:31 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 19:13:31 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How do I change the default skin for users that
	areboth logged in as well as not logged in?
In-Reply-To: <199943BA7E2F324E9E6037FDC476D9941346@rem-srv-01.internal.rembrandt.co.nz>
References: <199943BA7E2F324E9E6037FDC476D9941346@rem-srv-01.internal.rembrandt.co.nz>
Message-ID: <43A776DB.6030207@pobox.com>

Alistair Johnson wrote:
> Here's a script we use to copy preferences from one user to all users for MW
> 1.4.x. YMMV.

[snip]

This snippet appears to be vulnerable to SQL injection attacks. A cleverly
written signature or other option on the model row could probably be used to
overwrite everyone else's passwords or such.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From martin_jambon at emailuser.net  Tue Dec 20 04:37:31 2005
From: martin_jambon at emailuser.net (Martin Jambon)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 20:37:31 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Anti-spam help
In-Reply-To: <06ad01c6050b$b708e370$6400a8c0@PUBLICUS2>
References: <06ad01c6050b$b708e370$6400a8c0@PUBLICUS2>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0512192024280.25274@droopy>

On Mon, 19 Dec 2005, Steven Clift wrote:

> E-Democracy.Org is using MediaWiki for various local citizen guides and
> non-partisan election information directories:
> http://e-democracy.org/wiki
>
> As you can tell we are suffering from spammers.
> http://www.e-democracy.org/wiki/Special:Recentchanges
>
> As an all volunteer-based group, we are looking for help to defend our
> ability to use MediaWiki.
>
> What are the main things we need in place to still allow open edits, but
> to reduce wiki spam?
> 
> Is there any kind of add-on that would require someone to enter a code
> from a graphic to save or a way to ban HTML or the hide the crap "div"
> code?

The SpamBlacklist extension seems to work pretty well against spammers 
who add advertising links (with the intent of improving their Google 
ranking I suppose).

There might be other extensions which use "soft" rules to prevent 
large-scale damages (force a certain delay between 2 edits by the same 
user, forbid removal of too much stuff from different pages in the same 
time interval, ...)

In addition you should absolutely make frequent backups of your MySQL 
database so that large-scale damages could be repaired by restoring the 
last sane copy of the database.


Martin

--
Martin Jambon, PhD
http://martin.jambon.free.fr

Store and share your bioinformatics tips at http://wikiomics.org


From jediarchives11 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 04:34:54 2005
From: jediarchives11 at gmail.com (Nicholas Anderson)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:34:54 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Customizing an extension
Message-ID: <5c1f99820512192034o67e68089p2dffb5a7ec18fa2a@mail.gmail.com>

I want to use an extension on my wiki, the automatic wikification
extension, of which a version can be downloaded at
http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2336.  This extension
automatically adds wikilinks to words in an article that need them.
However, the extension normally runs on page save.  Since I don't want
to go through all pages and save them only to run the extension, I
wanted something to go through all the pages and run the extension.

Unfortunately, I realized that my knowledge of php, mysql and the
mediawiki code is inadequate to create something like that.  So I am
begging someone, anyone, to help me with this.  I've used whole days
and only learned that the method I wanted to use was wrong.

If you can help me with this, please email me at
jediarchives11 at gmail.com.  Thanks.


From jeremy at iz.org  Tue Dec 20 05:02:09 2005
From: jeremy at iz.org (Jeremy G Byrne)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:02:09 +0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Pointing broken links elsewhere than "edit"
In-Reply-To: <20051216121654.49E091AC1989@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051216121654.49E091AC1989@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.0.20051220124734.047feaa0@facks.org>

Hi All--

I'm trying to hack whatever functions produce the "&action=edit"
style defaults for broken links, but despite trawling Linker.php
and Skin.php (and a couple of less-likely candidates), googling
randomly and looking through the list archives here, I can't work
out what to change.

Can someone please point me in the right direction, or suggest
a better way to go about this? (My intention is to allow a
setting in LocalSettings.php to specify where broken links
point--which could be onsite or offsite, eg. to the wikipedia
page of the same name)? Thanks.

CYa,
JEREMY



From mauro at carmo.ws  Tue Dec 20 06:19:06 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:19:06 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Two new extensions
In-Reply-To: <200512181002.41144.smolensk@eunet.yu>
Message-ID: <20051220061918.4DF3E1AC01FE@mail.wikimedia.org>

Nikola,

I am using <poem> extension. That is very cool. Thanks a lot! mauro. 

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Nikola Smolenski
Sent: Sunday, December 18, 2005 1:03 AM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Two new extensions

I made two new MediaWiki extensions.

1) Poem Extension. A very simple extension, which only adds a line break at 
the end of each line between <poem></poem> tags, which can be truly useful 
for, err, poems. Its page is at
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Poem_Extension

2) ShowHide Extension. A bit more complex extension, which enables you to
make 
a portion of wiki page which could be shown or hidden, as ToC could be now. 
Its page is at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ShowHide_Extension

Please tell me what do you think of them :)
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From mauro at carmo.ws  Tue Dec 20 06:48:58 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 22:48:58 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Calendar
Message-ID: <20051220064859.E33B71AC02CC@mail.wikimedia.org>

Thanks ALL for all help,

I need some steps about how to create a Calendar like this one:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20s.

I have no idea where should I start from.

Thanks a lot, mauro.

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From T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de  Tue Dec 20 07:24:15 2005
From: T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de (Vasiliadis, Thomas)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 08:24:15 +0100
Subject: AW: [Mediawiki-l] Change the Navigation Bar
Message-ID: <D44B7B2E5EDC0C44A023008CF062E4000F82E3@server.worms.schlemmerblock.de>

No, he doesn't. I think it I made a mistake in my eMail. Sorry, but my english is a bit improofable...
I understood Tibor well and his adwise works well as well :-)
The thing abaut the DefaultSettings was somthing completly different.
Thince I am working with wikis, which is only a short time, I heard some people saying, that modifiing the DefaultSettings isn't a good idea, but nobody could tell me why, so I asked.
Thats all.
And by the way, whats an OP?

Have a nice day 

TV

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Rick DeNatale
Gesendet: Montag, 19. Dezember 2005 17:45
An: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Betreff: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Change the Navigation Bar

On 12/19/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> ...but, yes; changing DefaultSettings.php shouldn't be done, as these
> aren't preserved upon upgrading. It's also bad practise...

I don't see where Tibor was advocating changing DefaultSettings.php,
he was talking about editing MediaWiki:Sidebar page which is a new
feature of 1.5

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Navigation_bar

I was a little unsure why your link to this page was to a specific
pre-1.5 edition when the OP clearly said that he was using 1.5.3

--
Rick DeNatale

Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/
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From T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de  Tue Dec 20 07:26:03 2005
From: T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de (Vasiliadis, Thomas)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 08:26:03 +0100
Subject: AW: [Mediawiki-l] Change the Navigation Bar
Message-ID: <D44B7B2E5EDC0C44A023008CF062E4000F82E4@server.worms.schlemmerblock.de>

Hi Rob, if you talk abaout me as him, you are absolutly right, sorry for this confusion. 

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Rob Church
Gesendet: Montag, 19. Dezember 2005 19:46
An: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Betreff: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Change the Navigation Bar

My link *should* have been to the finished version of it which applied
to 1.5.x - I cleaned it up myself a while back, and a few others have
added to it/corrected typos etc. Basically, I linked to that clean
version, minus the template clutter; apologies if I clicked on the
wrong revision or absentmindedly copied the wrong URL or whatever.

I think the confusion over DefaultSettings.php comes from him not
removing this thread's subject before responding to some other query.


Rob Church

On 19/12/05, Rick DeNatale <rick.denatale at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/19/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > ...but, yes; changing DefaultSettings.php shouldn't be done, as these
> > aren't preserved upon upgrading. It's also bad practise...
>
> I don't see where Tibor was advocating changing DefaultSettings.php,
> he was talking about editing MediaWiki:Sidebar page which is a new
> feature of 1.5
>
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Navigation_bar
>
> I was a little unsure why your link to this page was to a specific
> pre-1.5 edition when the OP clearly said that he was using 1.5.3
>
> --
> Rick DeNatale
>
> Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
> http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/
> _______________________________________________
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From youngi at comcast.net  Tue Dec 20 07:32:08 2005
From: youngi at comcast.net (Isaac Gonzalez)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:32:08 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How do I change the default skin for users
	thatareboth logged in as well as not logged in?
In-Reply-To: <43A776DB.6030207@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <KIEEKHMBNKMLLBPMFAMMGEHGCGAA.youngi@comcast.net>

at what level can this be exploited?

>From the wiki interface?

Or from MySQL?

What if there is a firewall in front of MySQL?

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org]On Behalf Of Brion Vibber
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2005 7:14 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] How do I change the default skin for users
thatareboth logged in as well as not logged in?


Alistair Johnson wrote:
> Here's a script we use to copy preferences from one user to all users for
MW
> 1.4.x. YMMV.

[snip]

This snippet appears to be vulnerable to SQL injection attacks. A cleverly
written signature or other option on the model row could probably be used to
overwrite everyone else's passwords or such.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)




From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Tue Dec 20 07:47:03 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:47:03 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: How do I change the default skin for users that
	are both logged in as well as not logged in?
In-Reply-To: <20051220061943.14A0F1AC18D3@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051220061943.14A0F1AC18D3@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <0BF3D010-671E-4BD4-BF56-4F5A897FBB01@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: Brion Vibber <brion at pobox.com>
>
> Alistair Johnson wrote:
>> Here's a script we use to copy preferences from one user to all  
>> users for MW
>> 1.4.x. YMMV.
>
> This snippet appears to be vulnerable to SQL injection attacks. A  
> cleverly
> written signature or other option on the model row could probably  
> be used to
> overwrite everyone else's passwords or such.

Since this is used for copying *one* user's preferences to all the  
other users, and assuming you'd be pretty careful about selecting  
that one to copy, and also assuming that this script would only be  
run by trusted individuals in a trusted environment, what's the problem?

I'm not being facetious; I just want to know if I missed something  
important.

(BTW: I just ported my static HTML "Van" pages, below, to MW 1.5.3.)

:::: You can't solve a problem with the same kind of thinking that  
created it in the first place. -- Albert Einstein
:::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van>



From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Tue Dec 20 07:50:44 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 23:50:44 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Two new extensions
In-Reply-To: <20051220061943.14A0F1AC18D3@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051220061943.14A0F1AC18D3@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <E092E56C-E582-484D-9A12-3B0DB8C8C64B@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: ben wiseley <wiseleyb at gmail.com>
>
> the show hide thing is pretty cool - thanks!

I'll second that! I've installed it and added a test/demo page; now I  
just have to think of some situations to use it for... :-)

> On 12/18/05, Nikola Smolenski <smolensk at eunet.yu> wrote:
>>
>> I made two new MediaWiki extensions...
>>
>> 2) ShowHide Extension. A bit more complex extension, which enables  
>> you to
>> make
>> a portion of wiki page which could be shown or hidden, as ToC  
>> could be
>> now.
>> Its page is at http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/ShowHide_Extension

:::: Because the -- all which is on the table begins to address the  
big cost drivers. For example, how benefits are calculated, for  
example, is on the table. Whether or not benefits rise based upon  
wage increases or price increases. There's a series of parts of the  
formula that are being considered. And when you couple that, those  
different cost drivers, affecting those -- changing those with  
personal  accounts, the idea is to get what has been promised more  
likely to be -- or closer delivered to that has been promised. Does  
that make any sense to you? -- George W. Bush ::::
:::: Jan Steinman http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van ::::




From brion at pobox.com  Tue Dec 20 11:09:13 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 03:09:13 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How do I change the default skin for
	users	thatareboth logged in as well as not logged in?
In-Reply-To: <KIEEKHMBNKMLLBPMFAMMGEHGCGAA.youngi@comcast.net>
References: <KIEEKHMBNKMLLBPMFAMMGEHGCGAA.youngi@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43A7E659.2060702@pobox.com>

Isaac Gonzalez wrote:
> at what level can this be exploited?
> 
>>From the wiki interface?
> 
> Or from MySQL?
> 
> What if there is a firewall in front of MySQL?

For some general background on SQL injection attacks please see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SQL_injection

Always, *always* escape your input strings when manually constructing SQL
statements. This should have been impressed upon you when you first started
learning about SQL, but it's easy to pick up bad habits with the large amount of
sloppy example code out there.

If using PHP and MySQL directly, use the mysql_real_escape_string() function.
For documentation please see:
http://www.php.net/mysql_real_escape_string

The code that was given above takes the data from a particular user record's
user_options field and pastes it directly into an SQL statement. The existence
of "'" or "\" characters in that field could be abused to completely change the
meaning of the resulting SQL statement when someone next runs that script, by
closing the string literal and setting the value of other fields on every user
record.

If the account being read from is secure, and nobody ever makes a mistake, you
might never have a problem. Or you might just get SQL errors when you have a "'"
in there by mistake. But it does increase your chance of problems to have this
insecure system, and if you have that you likely have other insecure code
written similarly.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From brion at pobox.com  Tue Dec 20 11:17:27 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 03:17:27 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: How do I change the default skin for users
	that	are both logged in as well as not logged in?
In-Reply-To: <0BF3D010-671E-4BD4-BF56-4F5A897FBB01@Bytesmiths.com>
References: <20051220061943.14A0F1AC18D3@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<0BF3D010-671E-4BD4-BF56-4F5A897FBB01@Bytesmiths.com>
Message-ID: <43A7E847.5040209@pobox.com>

Jan Steinman wrote:
>> From: Brion Vibber <brion at pobox.com>
>> This snippet appears to be vulnerable to SQL injection attacks. A
>> cleverly written signature or other option on the model row could probably be
>> used to overwrite everyone else's passwords or such.
> 
> Since this is used for copying *one* user's preferences to all the other
> users, and assuming you'd be pretty careful about selecting that one to
> copy, and also assuming that this script would only be run by trusted
> individuals in a trusted environment, what's the problem?

That's a lot of assumptions -- *that* is the first problem.

At a minimum, it can break with an SQL error if they make a mistake and stick an
apostrophe in one of the preference fields. At a maximum, they can have their
database compromised if they "choose poorly".

The second problem is that it's an example of a bad coding habit; if somebody's
got one example of this kind of code, they need to look around in their other
code to make sure they don't have a dozen others, which might be even more
exploitable.

The third problem is that they're showing this code to other people as a
potential solution to a problem, which is going to show up when people with a
similar problem search the archives. Now your assumptions have to hold not just
for the first group, but for anyone who copies their code or uses it as an
example for writing their own code to solve another problem.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From mailsgetlost at web.de  Tue Dec 20 12:10:08 2005
From: mailsgetlost at web.de (Martin Baumann)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:10:08 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Add images to database without upload
Message-ID: <2076742001@web.de>

Hi,

is there a way to add images to the database without uploading them?
Because I have massive problems bypassing save mode I upload image files by hand.
But I cannot use [Image ...]. What can I do to use [Image ...] with these images?

Thanks, Martin
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From smolensk at eunet.yu  Tue Dec 20 12:57:58 2005
From: smolensk at eunet.yu (Nikola Smolenski)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:57:58 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Two new extensions
In-Reply-To: <E092E56C-E582-484D-9A12-3B0DB8C8C64B@Bytesmiths.com>
References: <20051220061943.14A0F1AC18D3@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<E092E56C-E582-484D-9A12-3B0DB8C8C64B@Bytesmiths.com>
Message-ID: <200512201357.58551.smolensk@eunet.yu>

On Tuesday 20 December 2005 08:50, Jan Steinman wrote:
> > From: ben wiseley <wiseleyb at gmail.com>
> > the show hide thing is pretty cool - thanks!
>
> I'll second that! I've installed it and added a test/demo page; now I
> just have to think of some situations to use it for... :-)

I added you to its page ;)


From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 13:37:47 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 08:37:47 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Pointing broken links elsewhere than "edit"
In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20051220124734.047feaa0@facks.org>
References: <20051216121654.49E091AC1989@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<7.0.0.16.0.20051220124734.047feaa0@facks.org>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512200537y66e99678k4fc737dddaa16a4b@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/20/05, Jeremy G Byrne <jeremy at iz.org> wrote:
> Hi All--
>
> I'm trying to hack whatever functions produce the "&action=edit"
> style defaults for broken links, but despite trawling Linker.php
> and Skin.php (and a couple of less-likely candidates), googling
> randomly and looking through the list archives here, I can't work
> out what to change.
>
> Can someone please point me in the right direction, or suggest
> a better way to go about this? (My intention is to allow a
> setting in LocalSettings.php to specify where broken links
> point--which could be onsite or offsite, eg. to the wikipedia
> page of the same name)? Thanks.

So why would you want this to be a global choice on the wiki, as
opposed to using the machanisms provided in wikitext markup to give
individual control

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Editor
See the section on Referencing

Interwiki links are easy,  for example on my wiki a reference like
[[w:John Doe|]] produces a link to the John_Doe article on
en.wikipedia. The | strips off the w: namespace in the rendered link.
This is widely known by wikipedians as the 'pipe trick'.

There is an interwiki map in the database which maps these
pseudo-namespaces and the "article name" into a URL.  The default
installation populates this table with many of the wikimedia sites.
But it can be changed, see
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Interwiki_links

To link to arbitrary external url you can use
[http://xxx.yyy.zzz/foo/bar Foo Bar] which will appear as Foo Bar
followed by a symbol which indicates that it's an external link, all
in the valid link color.

If you already know all this and have good reasons for a global switch
on broken links then continue your quest in peace!
--
Rick DeNatale

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From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 13:55:08 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 13:55:08 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Change the Navigation Bar
In-Reply-To: <D44B7B2E5EDC0C44A023008CF062E4000F82E3@server.worms.schlemmerblock.de>
References: <D44B7B2E5EDC0C44A023008CF062E4000F82E3@server.worms.schlemmerblock.de>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512200555l6112a04dh@mail.gmail.com>

On 20/12/05, Vasiliadis, Thomas <T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de> wrote:
> Thince I am working with wikis, which is only a short time, I heard some people saying, that modifiing the DefaultSettings isn't a good idea, but nobody could tell me why, so I asked.

In case this is still unclear, DefaultSettings.php contains the
original settings distributed with the software (which may change on
upgrade), and LocalSettings.php contains your personalised values
which over-ride these (and won't be touched on upgrade). Basically,
keeping the two sets of settings separate makes keeping track of what
you've changed easier, and ensures that you won't accidentally delete
your settings when updating the defaults.

> And by the way, whats an OP?

"Original Poster"

--
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[IMSoP]


From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 14:41:42 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 14:41:42 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Add images to database without upload
In-Reply-To: <2076742001@web.de>
References: <2076742001@web.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512200641g706793cdg@mail.gmail.com>

Look at the schema and see if you can work out how to add rows to the
image table.


Rob Church

On 20/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> is there a way to add images to the database without uploading them?
> Because I have massive problems bypassing save mode I upload image files by hand.
> But I cannot use [Image ...]. What can I do to use [Image ...] with these images?
>
> Thanks, Martin
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 14:36:28 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:36:28 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Change the Navigation Bar
In-Reply-To: <D44B7B2E5EDC0C44A023008CF062E4000F82E3@server.worms.schlemmerblock.de>
References: <D44B7B2E5EDC0C44A023008CF062E4000F82E3@server.worms.schlemmerblock.de>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512200636r2918e00em1b05773bba0c6bde@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/20/05, Vasiliadis, Thomas <T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de> wrote:
> No, he doesn't. I think it I made a mistake in my eMail. Sorry, but my english is a bit improofable...

Well you should see my Deutsch!

> And by the way, whats an OP?

In this context, original poster.  In other words, the person who
started the thread.  It could also mean original post, or the first
message in the thread.

Chus!

--
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 14:32:17 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:32:17 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Calendar
In-Reply-To: <20051220064859.E33B71AC02CC@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051220064859.E33B71AC02CC@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512200632o24d40786o1d30d189945aeb2a@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/20/05, Mauro do Carmo <mauro at carmo.ws> wrote:
> Thanks ALL for all help,
>
> I need some steps about how to create a Calendar like this one:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20s.
>
> I have no idea where should I start from.

I'm not sure what you are asking, this is a pretty simple hand edited
(judging by the history) page which uses no tricky wiki markup, the
only thing I see are standard links
--
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From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 14:57:11 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 14:57:11 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Customizing an extension
In-Reply-To: <5c1f99820512192034o67e68089p2dffb5a7ec18fa2a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5c1f99820512192034o67e68089p2dffb5a7ec18fa2a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512200657i36b7ebf4k@mail.gmail.com>

You've considered using something like a bot to do this? There's a
Python robot framework (http://pywikipediabot.sourceforge.net) which
shouldn't require too much tweaking to make it work with your wiki. I
believe there's also a Perl framework too.


Rob Church

On 20/12/05, Nicholas Anderson <jediarchives11 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I want to use an extension on my wiki, the automatic wikification
> extension, of which a version can be downloaded at
> http://bugzilla.wikipedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2336.  This extension
> automatically adds wikilinks to words in an article that need them.
> However, the extension normally runs on page save.  Since I don't want
> to go through all pages and save them only to run the extension, I
> wanted something to go through all the pages and run the extension.
>
> Unfortunately, I realized that my knowledge of php, mysql and the
> mediawiki code is inadequate to create something like that.  So I am
> begging someone, anyone, to help me with this.  I've used whole days
> and only learned that the method I wanted to use was wrong.
>
> If you can help me with this, please email me at
> jediarchives11 at gmail.com.  Thanks.
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 15:09:14 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 10:09:14 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How do I change the default skin for users
	thatareboth logged in as well as not logged in?
In-Reply-To: <43A7E659.2060702@pobox.com>
References: <KIEEKHMBNKMLLBPMFAMMGEHGCGAA.youngi@comcast.net>
	<43A7E659.2060702@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512200709q6b295610v81648765f133eec1@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/20/05, Brion Vibber <brion at pobox.com> wrote:

> Always, *always* escape your input strings when manually constructing SQL
> statements. This should have been impressed upon you when you first started
> learning about SQL, but it's easy to pick up bad habits with the large amount of
> sloppy example code out there.
>
> If using PHP and MySQL directly, use the mysql_real_escape_string() function.
> For documentation please see:
> http://www.php.net/mysql_real_escape_string

Even stronger is to use prepared SQL and bind the variables. This
isn't always supported by the language/DB combo though.  I think that
PHP 5 supports prepared SQL statements, but PHP 4 doesn't.


--
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From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 15:10:17 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:10:17 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] templates
In-Reply-To: <20051220004552.40311.qmail@web52306.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20051220004552.40311.qmail@web52306.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512200710x6222efe9t@mail.gmail.com>

1. Wikimedia's wiki farm uses 1.6-dev.
2. Where on that wiki is the trick being used successfully?


Rob Church

On 20/12/05, judi chen <judi_chen at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am running MW 1.5.3 on Fedora 4.
>
> I try to use two templates.  In the first templates, I
> opened a block with
> <div style="display:block; border:1px solid
> {{{border}}}; vertical-align:top;
> background-color:{{{background}}};
> color:{{{foreground}}}; margin-bottom:10px; padding:
> 1em; margin-top: 0em; padding-top:.3em; ">
>
> But  I donot close this block in the first template.
>
> Then in the second template I tried to close the block
> opened in the first template with </div>
>
> But the MW 1.5.3 I am using would not allow me to
> close the block. The block got closed prematurely in
> the first template.
>
> However the wikipedia.org can do the feature described
> above.
>
> Any suggestion on the fix.
> Thanks
> jc
>
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From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Tue Dec 20 15:48:35 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 07:48:35 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: How do I change the default skin for...
In-Reply-To: <20051220130336.CB8151950129@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051220130336.CB8151950129@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <8CDFBA1A-CDDE-4584-8707-25F41B7954DA@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: Brion Vibber <brion at pobox.com>
>
> Jan Steinman wrote:
>>> From: Brion Vibber <brion at pobox.com>
>>> This snippet appears to be vulnerable to SQL injection attacks...
>>
>> Since this is used for copying *one* user's preferences to all the  
>> other
>> users...
>
> That's a lot of assumptions -- *that* is the first problem.

Well, the first assumption was clearly stated in the part you cut out!

But the rest of your reasons are well taken.


:::: I see and admire your manner of living, your warm houses, your  
extensive fields of corn, your gardens, your cows, oxen, work-horses,  
wagons, and a thousand machines, that I know not the use of. I see  
that you are able to clothe yourself, even from weeds and grass. In  
short you can do almost what you choose. You whites possess the power  
of subduing almost every animal to your use. You are surrounded by  
slaves. Everything about you is in chains, and you are slaves  
yourselves. I hear I should exchange my presents for yours. I too  
should become a slave. Talk to my sons, perhaps they may be persuaded  
to adopt your fashions, or at least to recommend them to their sons;  
but for myself, I was born free, was raised free, and wish to die  
free. -- Big Soldier, 1820 ::::
:::: Jan Steinman http://www.IslandSeeds.org ::::





From mediawiki at x11.cjb.net  Tue Dec 20 16:50:38 2005
From: mediawiki at x11.cjb.net (mediawiki at x11.cjb.net)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:50:38 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] "user_groups" database corruption
Message-ID: <200512201150.38966.mediawiki@x11.cjb.net>

I've been running mediawiki at sauwiki.com (a site for my school) for a couple of years now.  I upgraded a couple of months ago to the latest version, and it has been working fine until last week, when it greeted me with the database error you can see there now: 

A database error has occurred
Query: SELECT ug_group FROM `user_groups` WHERE ug_user = '1'
Function: User::loadFromDatabase
Error: 1017 Can't find file: 'user_groups.MYI' (errno: 2) (localhost)

Backtrace:

    * GlobalFunctions.php line 451 calls wfbacktrace()
    * Database.php line 408 calls wfdebugdiebacktrace()
    * Database.php line 358 calls databasemysql::reportqueryerror()
    * Database.php line 734 calls databasemysql::query()
    * User.php line 692 calls databasemysql::select()
    * User.php line 622 calls user::loadfromdatabase()
    * Setup.php line 209 calls user::loadfromsession()
    * index.php line 63 calls require_once()

I tried to run check tables on it, but it didn't seem to have any effect.

I found this person:
http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2005-September/007350.html
who had the same problem, and the suggestion was to ask the host about fixing the database, but when I contacted iPowerweb they told me their databases were working fine, and that they didn't support third party software.

When I use phpmyadmin I get a similar error when trying to browse the "users_groups" table, but the other tables are still there.

So what I am asking, is how can I restore my wiki without losing the data?

Thank you,

Brian


From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 17:25:40 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 12:25:40 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] "user_groups" database corruption
In-Reply-To: <200512201150.38966.mediawiki@x11.cjb.net>
References: <200512201150.38966.mediawiki@x11.cjb.net>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512200925o28176c41s4d3bbb03107108f6@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/20/05, mediawiki at x11.cjb.net <mediawiki at x11.cjb.net> wrote:
> I've been running mediawiki at sauwiki.com (a site for my school) for a couple of years now.  I upgraded a couple of months ago to the latest version, and it has been working fine until last week, when it greeted me with the database error you can see there now:
>
> A database error has occurred
> Query: SELECT ug_group FROM `user_groups` WHERE ug_user = '1'
> Function: User::loadFromDatabase
> Error: 1017 Can't find file: 'user_groups.MYI' (errno: 2) (localhost)
>
> Backtrace:
>
>     * GlobalFunctions.php line 451 calls wfbacktrace()
>     * Database.php line 408 calls wfdebugdiebacktrace()
>     * Database.php line 358 calls databasemysql::reportqueryerror()
>     * Database.php line 734 calls databasemysql::query()
>     * User.php line 692 calls databasemysql::select()
>     * User.php line 622 calls user::loadfromdatabase()
>     * Setup.php line 209 calls user::loadfromsession()
>     * index.php line 63 calls require_once()
>
> I tried to run check tables on it, but it didn't seem to have any effect.
>
> I found this person:
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l/2005-September/007350.html
> who had the same problem, and the suggestion was to ask the host about fixing the database, but when I contacted iPowerweb they told me their databases were working fine, and that they didn't support third party software.
>
> When I use phpmyadmin I get a similar error when trying to browse the "users_groups" table, but the other tables are still there.
>
> So what I am asking, is how can I restore my wiki without losing the data?

Does your provider backup your files?  Restoring them might be the
only answer I'm afraid.

You mention that you are using phpmyadmin, do you have it protected? 
It's a potential door through which a malicious hacker can get at your
database.

I'm not sure what kind of school this is, but schools are one place
where inside users are nearly as untrustworthy as outsiders.

Perhaps someone else has some happier suggestions.

--
Rick DeNatale

Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/


From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Tue Dec 20 17:56:10 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 09:56:10 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: "user_groups" database corruption
In-Reply-To: <20051220165356.A57BD195013A@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051220165356.A57BD195013A@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <FFDC6760-A8AB-4EFA-B542-A5C638AA7529@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: mediawiki at x11.cjb.net
>
> A database error has occurred
> Query: SELECT ug_group FROM `user_groups` WHERE ug_user = '1'
> Function: User::loadFromDatabase
> Error: 1017 Can't find file: 'user_groups.MYI' (errno: 2) (localhost)

It would appear that the index file for the user_groups table has  
been deleted or has wrong permissions.

> I tried to run check tables on it, but it didn't seem to have any  
> effect.

If you run myisamchk from a shell prompt, it should tell you it can't  
access the table.

> I found this person... suggestion was to ask the host about fixing  
> the database, but when I contacted iPowerweb they told me their  
> databases were working fine, and that they didn't support third  
> party software.

Tell them you're not using third-party software; tell them you have a  
database table called "user_groups" that has a problem. Don't mention  
MediaWiki at all -- it's an MySQL problem!

If you're lucky, they can fix that file's permissions. If you're  
slightly less lucky, they may restore it from a recent backup. There  
may be a way of re-creating it if the corresponding .MYD and .FRM  
files are intact.

If the file is simply gone, consider some other service provider!


:::: There was a time when religion ruled the world. It is known as  
The Dark Ages. -- Ruth Hurmence Green
:::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van>




From jeremy at iz.org  Tue Dec 20 19:29:47 2005
From: jeremy at iz.org (Jeremy G Byrne)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 03:29:47 +0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Pointing broken links elsewhere than "edit"
In-Reply-To: <20051220165356.91A2619500D2@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051220165356.91A2619500D2@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.0.20051221025255.01ee4b40@facks.org>

At 08:37:47 -0500 20/12/2005, Rick DeN. wrote:
>So why would you want this to be a global choice on the
>wiki, as opposed to using the machanisms provided in
>wikitext markup to give individual control

I want to be able to control the "default broken link"
without altering the underlying wikitext. (Ideally I
would like to do this on an article-by-article basis,
but on a site-wide basis would be a good start.) This
is intended to allow re-use or mirroring of article
content across multiple wikis.

>If you already know all this and have good reasons for
>a global switch on broken links then continue your quest
>in peace!

I did know all that, but thanks very much for your reply
in any case.

CYa,
JEREMY



From judi_chen at yahoo.com  Tue Dec 20 19:32:12 2005
From: judi_chen at yahoo.com (judi chen)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 11:32:12 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] (no subject)
Message-ID: <20051220193212.32816.qmail@web52312.mail.yahoo.com>

Rob,
Thanks again for your answer.

On Wikipedia.org, it uses the following three
templates to render a portal.
It opens the box in the first template and then tries
to enclose the second (content) template inside the
box, finally tries to close this box by the third
template.

1.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiportal/box-header
2.{content template}
3.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiportal/box-footer

thanks again
jc


Message: 8
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:10:17 +0000
From: Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] templates
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
	<mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org>
Message-ID:
<e92136380512200710x6222efe9t at mail.gmail.com>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

1. Wikimedia's wiki farm uses 1.6-dev.
2. Where on that wiki is the trick being used
successfully?


Rob Church

On 20/12/05, judi chen <judi_chen at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I am running MW 1.5.3 on Fedora 4.
>
> I try to use two templates.  In the first templates,
I
> opened a block with
> <div style="display:block; border:1px solid
> {{{border}}}; vertical-align:top;
> background-color:{{{background}}};
> color:{{{foreground}}}; margin-bottom:10px; padding:
> 1em; margin-top: 0em; padding-top:.3em; ">
>
> But  I donot close this block in the first template.
>
> Then in the second template I tried to close the
block
> opened in the first template with </div>
>
> But the MW 1.5.3 I am using would not allow me to
> close the block. The block got closed prematurely in
> the first template.
>
> However the wikipedia.org can do the feature
described
> above.
>
> Any suggestion on the fix.
> Thanks
> jc


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From JohnsonA at rembrandt.co.nz  Tue Dec 20 19:43:54 2005
From: JohnsonA at rembrandt.co.nz (Alistair Johnson)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 08:43:54 +1300
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: How do I change the default skin for...
Message-ID: <199943BA7E2F324E9E6037FDC476D994134D@rem-srv-01.internal.rembrandt.co.nz>

Last time I share a solution :-)

Al. 

-----Original Message-----
From: Jan Steinman [mailto:Jan at Bytesmiths.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, 21 December 2005 4:49 a.m.
To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: How do I change the default skin for...

> From: Brion Vibber <brion at pobox.com>
>
> Jan Steinman wrote:
>>> From: Brion Vibber <brion at pobox.com> This snippet appears to be 
>>> vulnerable to SQL injection attacks...
>>
>> Since this is used for copying *one* user's preferences to all the 
>> other users...
>
> That's a lot of assumptions -- *that* is the first problem.

Well, the first assumption was clearly stated in the part you cut out!

But the rest of your reasons are well taken.


:::: I see and admire your manner of living, your warm houses, your
extensive fields of corn, your gardens, your cows, oxen, work-horses,
wagons, and a thousand machines, that I know not the use of. I see that you
are able to clothe yourself, even from weeds and grass. In short you can do
almost what you choose. You whites possess the power of subduing almost
every animal to your use. You are surrounded by slaves. Everything about you
is in chains, and you are slaves yourselves. I hear I should exchange my
presents for yours. I too should become a slave. Talk to my sons, perhaps
they may be persuaded to adopt your fashions, or at least to recommend them
to their sons; but for myself, I was born free, was raised free, and wish to
die free. -- Big Soldier, 1820 ::::
:::: Jan Steinman http://www.IslandSeeds.org ::::



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From chris_braiotta at harvard.edu  Tue Dec 20 19:49:35 2005
From: chris_braiotta at harvard.edu (Chris Braiotta)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 14:49:35 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] CSS Problem in Firefox 1.0.7 (windows) and 1.0.5 (mac)
Message-ID: <56D6D417-2FDF-44FF-A546-C7B5CA1D81E4@harvard.edu>

Hi,

I've just installed the wikimedia engine on our apache server; all  
works fine, except the CSS stuff isn't rendered in Firefox 1.0.5 for  
the Mac, and Firefox 1.0.7 for Windows. Firefox 1.0.6 for Windows  
works fine, as does Safari and IE.

We already have the line "text/css css" in mime.types, and just to be  
safe I added the line "AddType text/css .css" to httpd.conf.

Here's where it gets weird. There's a developer toolbar in Firefox  
that lets you play with the CSS info for a page; when I load the page  
into that (using the "edit css" menu option), the style info suddenly  
appears.

Any help would be appreciated for this somewhat minor but still  
annoying problem!





Thanks,
Chris Braiotta
Systems Engineer
Network Operations Center
Harvard University



From brion at pobox.com  Tue Dec 20 20:08:08 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 12:08:08 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] CSS Problem in Firefox 1.0.7 (windows) and 1.0.5
	(mac)
In-Reply-To: <56D6D417-2FDF-44FF-A546-C7B5CA1D81E4@harvard.edu>
References: <56D6D417-2FDF-44FF-A546-C7B5CA1D81E4@harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <43A864A8.8040708@pobox.com>

Chris Braiotta wrote:
> I've just installed the wikimedia engine on our apache server; all works
> fine, except the CSS stuff isn't rendered in Firefox 1.0.5 for the Mac,
> and Firefox 1.0.7 for Windows. Firefox 1.0.6 for Windows works fine, as
> does Safari and IE.

1) Clear caches and double-check.

2) Install the Live HTTP Headers extension for Firefox, and confirm that the
correct content-type is sent.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From cedric at daneel.net  Tue Dec 20 17:52:34 2005
From: cedric at daneel.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9dric?=)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:52:34 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Problem with a french special character
Message-ID: <do9gd7$3c0$1@sea.gmane.org>

Hello,

I have installed mediawiki on http://wiki.placedusport2.com/ to give a 
place for community work.
I had to export and reimport mysql data via phpmyadmin. All right, 
except french sp?cial char "?" (a with an accent on top) wich appear as 
"?" in every page.

I try to change this via a little script in wiki_cur and wiki_text 
tables, but nothing work. Could anyone help me?
Sorry if the question was already asked, I have found nothing about this 
problem.

Regards
C?dric

ps: here is the script

function Remplace($table, $champid, $champtext)
	{
	$res=mysql_query('select '.$champid.', '.$champtext.' from '.$table);
	while ($row = mysql_fetch_assoc($res))
		{
		//the string used as search string in str_replace is the one I can see 
thought phpmyadmin in cur/old_text fields.
		$row[$champtext]=str_replace('???', utf8_encode('?'), $row[$champtext]);
	
		mysql_query('UPDATE '.$table.' SET 
'.$champtext.'="'.mysql_escape_string($row[$champtext]).'" where 
'.$champid.'='.$row[$champid]);
		}
	}



From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 20:34:00 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:34:00 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] (no subject)
In-Reply-To: <20051220193212.32816.qmail@web52312.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20051220193212.32816.qmail@web52312.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512201234s73143348x@mail.gmail.com>

Wikimedia uses 1.6-dev. Are you able to reproduce the problem on a
test 1.6-dev installation?


Rob Church

On 20/12/05, judi chen <judi_chen at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Rob,
> Thanks again for your answer.
>
> On Wikipedia.org, it uses the following three
> templates to render a portal.
> It opens the box in the first template and then tries
> to enclose the second (content) template inside the
> box, finally tries to close this box by the third
> template.
>
> 1.http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiportal/box-header
> 2.{content template}
> 3.
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikiportal/box-footer
>
> thanks again
> jc
>
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:10:17 +0000
> From: Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] templates
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
>         <mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org>
> Message-ID:
> <e92136380512200710x6222efe9t at mail.gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
>
> 1. Wikimedia's wiki farm uses 1.6-dev.
> 2. Where on that wiki is the trick being used
> successfully?
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 20/12/05, judi chen <judi_chen at yahoo.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > I am running MW 1.5.3 on Fedora 4.
> >
> > I try to use two templates.  In the first templates,
> I
> > opened a block with
> > <div style="display:block; border:1px solid
> > {{{border}}}; vertical-align:top;
> > background-color:{{{background}}};
> > color:{{{foreground}}}; margin-bottom:10px; padding:
> > 1em; margin-top: 0em; padding-top:.3em; ">
> >
> > But  I donot close this block in the first template.
> >
> > Then in the second template I tried to close the
> block
> > opened in the first template with </div>
> >
> > But the MW 1.5.3 I am using would not allow me to
> > close the block. The block got closed prematurely in
> > the first template.
> >
> > However the wikipedia.org can do the feature
> described
> > above.
> >
> > Any suggestion on the fix.
> > Thanks
> > jc
>
>
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From pvarma at inventures.com  Tue Dec 20 20:42:55 2005
From: pvarma at inventures.com (Piyush Varma)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 12:42:55 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Media WiKi - Newly added user database record is not
	recognized by MediaWik Web Interface
Message-ID: <AE8AB5873C8118458AF059ED48D8FE6E05333B21@iv001dc.lan.inventures.com>

Hi,
 
I added several rows to the user table. The following fields were populated: 
 
user_name, user_password, user_newpassword, user_real_name, and user_email.
 
When I try to log in MediaWiki using one of the user names, I receive the message:
 
There is no user by the name "Pritchie". Check your spelling, or use the form below to create a new user account.
 
But the "Pritchie" (user_name column value) exists in the user table.
 
What should I do please?
 
Thank you,
 
Piyush
 


From jgrantham at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 21:36:52 2005
From: jgrantham at gmail.com (Jeff Grantham)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:36:52 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] New User
Message-ID: <86107dd30512201336o1e78563s506b076f32dab20f@mail.gmail.com>

I am a new user to Media Wiki and was wondering if there are any good
tutorials out there on getting started?

--

Thanks,
Jeff
KB5WCK


From rogan at shaw.ca  Tue Dec 20 20:37:14 2005
From: rogan at shaw.ca (Roland)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 12:37:14 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] help re: text file support...
Message-ID: <0IRT006MBDCKNQ60@l-daemon>

Are there plans for text or flat file support as opposed to MySQL storage?

Thanks.

-roland


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From chris_braiotta at harvard.edu  Tue Dec 20 21:53:18 2005
From: chris_braiotta at harvard.edu (Chris Braiotta)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 16:53:18 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] CSS Problem in Firefox 1.0.7 (windows) and 1.0.5
	(mac)
In-Reply-To: <56D6D417-2FDF-44FF-A546-C7B5CA1D81E4@harvard.edu>
References: <56D6D417-2FDF-44FF-A546-C7B5CA1D81E4@harvard.edu>
Message-ID: <B93E92BC-6FBF-4D8E-9AE1-1623A664FA78@harvard.edu>

I accidentally deleted the message from the guy who responded, but he  
got me on the right track and I wanted to acknowledge it. In case  
anyone comes across the same problem, I thought I'd pass along my fix.

I did, indeed, have the server set to send .css files as test/css.  
Unfortunately, I also had apache set up to parse all .css files  
through the PHP engine for various reasons. This had the effect of  
overriding the AddType directive. The fix I applied was to add the  
following statement to the very top of the problem CSS file

<?php header('Content-type: text/css') ?>


From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 21:56:52 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:56:52 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] New User
In-Reply-To: <86107dd30512201336o1e78563s506b076f32dab20f@mail.gmail.com>
References: <86107dd30512201336o1e78563s506b076f32dab20f@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512201356j3c4a85cdh@mail.gmail.com>

Well, there's documentation plastered all over Meta
(http://meta.wikimedia.org) and the "official" web site at
http://www.mediawiki.org. Several of the Wikipedia tutorials
(http://www.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:Contents) are geared towards
editing and concepts useful for editors to understand.

For more specific help, considering emailing the mailing list (as
you've done) or search the mailing list archives
(http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/mediawiki-l).


Rob Church

On 20/12/05, Jeff Grantham <jgrantham at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am a new user to Media Wiki and was wondering if there are any good
> tutorials out there on getting started?
>
> --
>
> Thanks,
> Jeff
> KB5WCK
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From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 21:58:01 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 21:58:01 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] help re: text file support...
In-Reply-To: <0IRT006MBDCKNQ60@l-daemon>
References: <0IRT006MBDCKNQ60@l-daemon>
Message-ID: <e92136380512201358y59b74905o@mail.gmail.com>

It's almost 100% that we won't support file-based databases, as that's
not what the Wikimedia Foundation needs, and most users will want more
than crawling performance.

Other wiki engines use file-based storage, as I understand, so perhaps
one of those would be more suited to what you need.


Rob Church

On 20/12/05, Roland <rogan at shaw.ca> wrote:
> Are there plans for text or flat file support as opposed to MySQL storage?
>
> Thanks.
>
> -roland
>
>
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From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec 20 22:00:01 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:00:01 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Media WiKi - Newly added user database record is
	not recognized by MediaWik Web Interface
In-Reply-To: <AE8AB5873C8118458AF059ED48D8FE6E05333B21@iv001dc.lan.inventures.com>
References: <AE8AB5873C8118458AF059ED48D8FE6E05333B21@iv001dc.lan.inventures.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512201400q5f50359bm@mail.gmail.com>

Hmm. I could understand how the password wouldn't be accepted
(MediaWiki uses more than a straight MD5 of the text for its hash) but
not how the user wouldn't be found.

The user's ID field's been filled in with a value? Other users can be found?


Rob Church

On 20/12/05, Piyush Varma <pvarma at inventures.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I added several rows to the user table. The following fields were populated:
>
> user_name, user_password, user_newpassword, user_real_name, and user_email.
>
> When I try to log in MediaWiki using one of the user names, I receive the message:
>
> There is no user by the name "Pritchie". Check your spelling, or use the form below to create a new user account.
>
> But the "Pritchie" (user_name column value) exists in the user table.
>
> What should I do please?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Piyush
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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From youngi at comcast.net  Tue Dec 20 23:19:07 2005
From: youngi at comcast.net (Isaac Gonzalez)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:19:07 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Media WiKi - Newly added user database record isnot
	recognized by MediaWik Web Interface
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512201400q5f50359bm@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <KIEEKHMBNKMLLBPMFAMMAEHNCGAA.youngi@comcast.net>

Hi Rob,

The user's ID field has been automatically filled in with an incremental
numerical value for all those that we imported via a our query.

The users that were created via the Wiki interface still work fine.

A  column that we did not add any data to is: user_token , which looks like
MW creates for other users.

We also added 051219 to the user_touch column field for every user we
created, so maybe that is also a problem.

If none of these columns matter....then, are there any other dependencies
that we need to be aware of so that MW knows that a users is created or not?

thanks,
Isaac


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Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 2:00 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Media WiKi - Newly added user database record
isnot recognized by MediaWik Web Interface


Hmm. I could understand how the password wouldn't be accepted
(MediaWiki uses more than a straight MD5 of the text for its hash) but
not how the user wouldn't be found.

The user's ID field's been filled in with a value? Other users can be found?


Rob Church

On 20/12/05, Piyush Varma <pvarma at inventures.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I added several rows to the user table. The following fields were
populated:
>
> user_name, user_password, user_newpassword, user_real_name, and
user_email.
>
> When I try to log in MediaWiki using one of the user names, I receive the
message:
>
> There is no user by the name "Pritchie". Check your spelling, or use the
form below to create a new user account.
>
> But the "Pritchie" (user_name column value) exists in the user table.
>
> What should I do please?
>
> Thank you,
>
> Piyush
>
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From pvarma at inventures.com  Tue Dec 20 23:53:34 2005
From: pvarma at inventures.com (Piyush Varma)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 15:53:34 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Adding a user externally
Message-ID: <AE8AB5873C8118458AF059ED48D8FE6E053351E6@iv001dc.lan.inventures.com>

Hi,
 
Is there an IDE for PHP (like Visual Studio)? I would like to single step MW code so that I can find out why a user name is not recognized, even if it exists in the user table?
 
Thank you,
 
Piyush
 


From brion at pobox.com  Wed Dec 21 00:14:21 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 16:14:21 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Adding a user externally
In-Reply-To: <AE8AB5873C8118458AF059ED48D8FE6E053351E6@iv001dc.lan.inventures.com>
References: <AE8AB5873C8118458AF059ED48D8FE6E053351E6@iv001dc.lan.inventures.com>
Message-ID: <43A89E5D.9050201@pobox.com>

Piyush Varma wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Is there an IDE for PHP (like Visual Studio)? I would like to single step MW
> code so that I can find out why a user name is not recognized, even if it
> exists in the user table?

You might try Zend Studio; IIRC there's a 60-day free evaluation. It has an
integrated debugger, though I found it somewhat awkward to use with MediaWiki.

Also check the debug log modes (see DefaultSettings.php for all available
configuration options); you can dump all SQL statements executed to the log by
setting $wgDebugDumpSql.

If your usernames aren't being found, you should first double-check that they
are valid. Note:
* usernames must be valid wiki page titles
* usernames are additionally required to be capitalized, even on a wiki with
initial-case-sensitivity enabled
* the user_name field is stored with spaces, not underscores as page_title is
* as with everything else in the wiki, they are encoded in UTF-8

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From travian.wiki at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 00:46:58 2005
From: travian.wiki at gmail.com (Travian Wiki)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 18:46:58 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Turning off GZIP
Message-ID: <37f8f8ac0512201646s4243aa6dy4a8ff8a116282102@mail.gmail.com>

How do you turn off GZIP in MediaWiki 1.5.3?  My host won't allow GZIP, so
the wiki doesn't work.  You get an error that looks like ? or ?.  I
commented out

if( !ini_get( 'zlib.output_compression' ) ) @ob_start( 'ob_gzhandler' );

in LocalSettings.php by changing it to

# if( !ini_get( 'zlib.output_compression' ) ) @ob_start( 'ob_gzhandler' );

When I do that, I get an error viewing my wiki.  The error is on Line 54
Character 67.  What can I do to turn off GZIP, and the error?



Thanks

From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Wed Dec 21 00:56:41 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 16:56:41 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Media WiKi - Newly added user database...
In-Reply-To: <20051221004714.DE13A19501A9@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051221004714.DE13A19501A9@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <1FA1226D-9B34-46E6-B85D-6D9A62419F02@Bytesmiths.com>

> We also added 051219 to the user_touch column field for every user we
> created, so maybe that is also a problem...

When I've successfully populated users directly into the database, I  
only filled in the fields I was confident of. That worked as of MW 1.4 
+. I haven't tried it on 1.5.3 yet.

I'd try emptying a user_touched field and seeing if that helps.

Of course, no one will be able to log in until they email themselves  
a password.


:::: Remember, it isn't paranoia if they're REALLY out to get 'cha.  
-- Frank Zappa ::::
:::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Item/99-6313-13> ::::




From mauro at carmo.ws  Wed Dec 21 01:23:46 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 17:23:46 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Calendar
In-Reply-To: <deb2337a0512200632o24d40786o1d30d189945aeb2a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20051221012354.7891C1AC022E@mail.wikimedia.org>

Thanks Rick,

Yes. That is what I want. A Calendar made by links where whenever you click
in a link (of the Calendar) takes you to another page with the same calendar
structure.

As instance if you click in this link http://pt.wikipedia.org/wiki/1, show
you year 1. If you click in the number 2, it takes you to year 2. If you
click in 20 a.C., it takes you to D?cada de 20 a.C. page, and so on so
forth.

I think that there is some way to do that with less pain than write and save
all pages manually. And all pages mean something like 100's and 100's of
pages.

I might be wrong, but if not, how people create a calendar like that?

Thanks a lot, mauro.


-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
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Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 6:32 AM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Calendar

On 12/20/05, Mauro do Carmo <mauro at carmo.ws> wrote:
> Thanks ALL for all help,
>
> I need some steps about how to create a Calendar like this one:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20s.
>
> I have no idea where should I start from.

I'm not sure what you are asking, this is a pretty simple hand edited
(judging by the history) page which uses no tricky wiki markup, the
only thing I see are standard links
--
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From robchur at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 02:05:04 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 02:05:04 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Turning off GZIP
In-Reply-To: <37f8f8ac0512201646s4243aa6dy4a8ff8a116282102@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37f8f8ac0512201646s4243aa6dy4a8ff8a116282102@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512201805t457a5c94v@mail.gmail.com>

Line 54, character 67 of which file? Also, what's the text of the
error? For all configuration settings that are available, please see
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Configuration_settings.


Rob Church

On 21/12/05, Travian Wiki <travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> How do you turn off GZIP in MediaWiki 1.5.3?  My host won't allow GZIP, so
> the wiki doesn't work.  You get an error that looks like ? or ?.  I
> commented out
>
> if( !ini_get( 'zlib.output_compression' ) ) @ob_start( 'ob_gzhandler' );
>
> in LocalSettings.php by changing it to
>
> # if( !ini_get( 'zlib.output_compression' ) ) @ob_start( 'ob_gzhandler' );
>
> When I do that, I get an error viewing my wiki.  The error is on Line 54
> Character 67.  What can I do to turn off GZIP, and the error?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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>
>

From youngi at comcast.net  Wed Dec 21 03:33:29 2005
From: youngi at comcast.net (Isaac Gonzalez)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 19:33:29 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Adding a user externally
In-Reply-To: <43A89E5D.9050201@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <KIEEKHMBNKMLLBPMFAMMEEHOCGAA.youngi@comcast.net>

yep that was the problem, MW was asking for a capital first letter even
though we put a lowercase letter on the login form.

changing it to a capital letter in the database for the usernames worked.

thanks,
Isaac

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From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org]On Behalf Of Brion Vibber
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2005 4:14 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Adding a user externally


Piyush Varma wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Is there an IDE for PHP (like Visual Studio)? I would like to single step
MW
> code so that I can find out why a user name is not recognized, even if it
> exists in the user table?

You might try Zend Studio; IIRC there's a 60-day free evaluation. It has an
integrated debugger, though I found it somewhat awkward to use with
MediaWiki.

Also check the debug log modes (see DefaultSettings.php for all available
configuration options); you can dump all SQL statements executed to the log
by
setting $wgDebugDumpSql.

If your usernames aren't being found, you should first double-check that
they
are valid. Note:
* usernames must be valid wiki page titles
* usernames are additionally required to be capitalized, even on a wiki with
initial-case-sensitivity enabled
* the user_name field is stored with spaces, not underscores as page_title
is
* as with everything else in the wiki, they are encoded in UTF-8

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)




From travian.wiki at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 04:22:11 2005
From: travian.wiki at gmail.com (Travian Wiki)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:22:11 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Turning off GZIP
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512201805t457a5c94v@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37f8f8ac0512201646s4243aa6dy4a8ff8a116282102@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512201805t457a5c94v@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37f8f8ac0512202022q6288fb4ci97430bb4c2dfe9fa@mail.gmail.com>

I don't know what file.  It is a syntax error that you get in IE when the
page loads.

Thanks


On 12/20/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Line 54, character 67 of which file? Also, what's the text of the
> error? For all configuration settings that are available, please see
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Configuration_settings.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 21/12/05, Travian Wiki <travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> > How do you turn off GZIP in MediaWiki 1.5.3?  My host won't allow GZIP,
> so
> > the wiki doesn't work.  You get an error that looks like ? or ?.  I
> > commented out
> >
> > if( !ini_get( 'zlib.output_compression' ) ) @ob_start( 'ob_gzhandler' );
> >
> > in LocalSettings.php by changing it to
> >
> > # if( !ini_get( 'zlib.output_compression' ) ) @ob_start( 'ob_gzhandler'
> );
> >
> > When I do that, I get an error viewing my wiki.  The error is on Line 54
> > Character 67.  What can I do to turn off GZIP, and the error?
> >
> >
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
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> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
>
>

From travian.wiki at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 04:29:03 2005
From: travian.wiki at gmail.com (Travian Wiki)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 22:29:03 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Turning off GZIP
In-Reply-To: <37f8f8ac0512202022q6288fb4ci97430bb4c2dfe9fa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37f8f8ac0512201646s4243aa6dy4a8ff8a116282102@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512201805t457a5c94v@mail.gmail.com>
	<37f8f8ac0512202022q6288fb4ci97430bb4c2dfe9fa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37f8f8ac0512202029x44215318g16a6b43b461d3abe@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry to post twice in a row, but you can see here -
http://www.wiki.8lo.net/wiki

I added the

$wgUseGzip - "false";
line and commented out

# if( !ini_get( 'zlib.output_compression' ) ) @ob_start( 'ob_gzhandler' );







On 12/20/05, Travian Wiki <travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I don't know what file.  It is a syntax error that you get in IE when the
> page loads.
>
> Thanks
>
>
>  On 12/20/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Line 54, character 67 of which file? Also, what's the text of the
> > error? For all configuration settings that are available, please see
> > http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Configuration_settings.
> >
> >
> > Rob Church
> >
> > On 21/12/05, Travian Wiki < travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > How do you turn off GZIP in MediaWiki 1.5.3?  My host won't allow
> > GZIP, so
> > > the wiki doesn't work.  You get an error that looks like ? or ?.  I
> > > commented out
> > >
> > > if( !ini_get( 'zlib.output_compression' ) ) @ob_start( 'ob_gzhandler'
> > );
> > >
> > > in LocalSettings.php by changing it to
> > >
> > > # if( !ini_get( 'zlib.output_compression' ) ) @ob_start(
> > 'ob_gzhandler' );
> > >
> > > When I do that, I get an error viewing my wiki.  The error is on Line
> > 54
> > > Character 67.  What can I do to turn off GZIP, and the error?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> >
> >
>

From brion at pobox.com  Wed Dec 21 04:48:15 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2005 20:48:15 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Turning off GZIP
In-Reply-To: <37f8f8ac0512202029x44215318g16a6b43b461d3abe@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37f8f8ac0512201646s4243aa6dy4a8ff8a116282102@mail.gmail.com>	<e92136380512201805t457a5c94v@mail.gmail.com>	<37f8f8ac0512202022q6288fb4ci97430bb4c2dfe9fa@mail.gmail.com>
	<37f8f8ac0512202029x44215318g16a6b43b461d3abe@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43A8DE8F.5010809@pobox.com>

Travian Wiki wrote:
> Sorry to post twice in a row, but you can see here -
> http://www.wiki.8lo.net/wiki

It looks like your hosting provider is configured to insert advertising banners
into all PHP output. This causes data corruption on anything that's not straight
HTML.

For example the live JavaScript code is corrupted here:

http://www.wiki.8lo.net/wiki/index.php?title=-&action=raw&gen=js&maxage=18000

You'll need to ask them to disable this, or you'll probably encounter a number
of strange errors of this kind.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de  Wed Dec 21 07:15:17 2005
From: T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de (Vasiliadis, Thomas)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 08:15:17 +0100
Subject: AW: [Mediawiki-l] Change the Navigation Bar
Message-ID: <D44B7B2E5EDC0C44A023008CF062E4000F82E9@server.worms.schlemmerblock.de>

Thanks, this separation between default and local makes sense.

TV
 

-----Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-----
Von: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] Im Auftrag von Rowan Collins
Gesendet: Dienstag, 20. Dezember 2005 15:47
An: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Betreff: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Change the Navigation Bar

On 20/12/05, Vasiliadis, Thomas <T.Vasiliadis at schlemmerblock.de> wrote:
> Thince I am working with wikis, which is only a short time, I heard some people saying, that modifiing the DefaultSettings isn't a good idea, but nobody could tell me why, so I asked.

In case this is still unclear, DefaultSettings.php contains the
original settings distributed with the software (which may change on
upgrade), and LocalSettings.php contains your personalised values
which over-ride these (and won't be touched on upgrade). Basically,
keeping the two sets of settings separate makes keeping track of what
you've changed easier, and ensures that you won't accidentally delete
your settings when updating the defaults.

> And by the way, whats an OP?

"Original Poster"

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From wrcovington at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 09:21:53 2005
From: wrcovington at gmail.com (Billy Covington)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 01:21:53 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Get Mediawiki to read template variables within
	extension tags?
Message-ID: <11d5adb10512210121m74cc77a0t899fdd16b7d4a366@mail.gmail.com>

Hello all! Thank you for your help!

I am attempting to create a template in which all anyone needs to do
to put a Google Map on a page is use a template with 3 variables
(longitude, latitude, and description) using Evan Miller's Google Maps
extension (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Emiller/GoogleMapsExtension).

The only problem is, Mediawiki won't read the variables if they're
inside the <googlemap></googlemap> extension tags.

Evan found this page:
http://blog.w-nz.com/archives/2005/08/23/using-template-variables-in-extension-tags-with-mediawiki/
Where, basically, Bas Westerbaan had created a "mod" or "patch" for
Mediawiki that would allow it to read variables that are within
extension tags. However, I tired it, and it is apparent that his patch
no longer works with the current version of Mediawiki.

I am definitely no expert or even novice at php, and when he started
talking about "diffutils" and comparing the code line by line, my eyes
glossed over.

Does anyone know of any other patches or modifications I can make to
Mediawiki to make it read template variables that are within extension
tags?


Thanks again in advance for any help you could provide. I appreciate it greatly.



--Billy Covington
http://www.thesteeps.net
http://www.singletrackwiki.com


From nina.kerimi at se.calyon.com  Wed Dec 21 09:31:08 2005
From: nina.kerimi at se.calyon.com (Nina Kerimi)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 10:31:08 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] version info
Message-ID: <OF02FAB172.9DADA18B-ONC12570DE.00343674-C12570DE.0033DEEB@prod.par.ca-indosuez.com>

Hello,
I know that this question might sound stupid but where and how can I check 
what verison of the wiki I am running.

Sincerely Yours
/Nina.K
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From nina.kerimi at se.calyon.com  Wed Dec 21 09:35:30 2005
From: nina.kerimi at se.calyon.com (Nina Kerimi)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 10:35:30 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Navigation bar 1.5
Message-ID: <OFBC6D3AD4.047C2CC1-ONC12570DE.00337F6A-C12570DE.00344538@prod.par.ca-indosuez.com>

Hello,
I know that thisquestion was asked earlier this week, but I have read all 
the documents and I cannot manage to get it working.

I want to change the nagivation bar so that it has the links that I want. 
I run 1.5.2

I copied the Navigation links array from the online manual into my 
localsettingsfile because it was not in there. I could also establish that 
these variable is not present in the defaultsetting. But changing this 
array did not make any change.

So I thought that I could do a search in all wiki files and see where e.g 
the word "community portal" occured, I found that the only place it 
occures is in language.php but changing it in that file did not make any 
good either.



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From U.Baumbach at web.de  Wed Dec 21 12:24:36 2005
From: U.Baumbach at web.de (Uwe Baumbach)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:24:36 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] create, rename a user - external user data base
Message-ID: <284564944@web.de>

Hi,

is there a official of half-official way to rename a user _name_  ?!

Because:
We have to use an external user database with existing (about) 2000 users. 
With the first logon at our wiki a user record will be created with the name taken from the external table.

Only now we realized that there were "bad"  user names, e.g. "X0456" (formerly only a logon name - in MW a apparent name) or "kilroy" (first letter in lower case). Those user names are already in use with a lot of creatings/changes of articles.

Furthermore in this external database a UserID is used - and copied into the MW user table too.

Now we have two situations that claim renaming username:
a) The user wants to do so (because of senseless user name). In that case we could suppress this feature for the future in our external application, but if would be nice to have it.
b) Admins want to do so (because of user names with underscores in the name or first letter in lower case...)

The way _I_ see is: changing all xyz_user_text fields in all tables and rename/redirect the user page article.

1. Would that be stable?
2. Is a way to do so transparently from the MW surface including a SQL script (for admins only)?
3. The function getCanonicalName in AuthPlugin.php can change the user name gotten from external. Is this change persistant in that way that a new created user record would get the "munged" user name?


Thanks.

Uwe?(Baumbach)
U.Baumbach at web.de


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From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 12:43:52 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 12:43:52 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Navigation bar 1.5
In-Reply-To: <OFBC6D3AD4.047C2CC1-ONC12570DE.00337F6A-C12570DE.00344538@prod.par.ca-indosuez.com>
References: <OFBC6D3AD4.047C2CC1-ONC12570DE.00337F6A-C12570DE.00344538@prod.par.ca-indosuez.com>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512210443m6dab5f47v@mail.gmail.com>

On 21/12/05, Nina Kerimi <nina.kerimi at se.calyon.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I know that thisquestion was asked earlier this week, but I have read all
> the documents and I cannot manage to get it working.
>
> I want to change the nagivation bar so that it has the links that I want.
> I run 1.5.2

Under 1.5.x, you need to edit the page "MediaWiki:Sidebar" on your
wiki, not any of the configuration files. All instructions (e.g.
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Navigation_bar) should reflect
this fact; if you found some instructions that didn't, perhaps you
could change them, or tell us where you looked so someone else can...

--
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 12:44:33 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:44:33 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] version info
In-Reply-To: <OF02FAB172.9DADA18B-ONC12570DE.00343674-C12570DE.0033DEEB@prod.par.ca-indosuez.com>
References: <OF02FAB172.9DADA18B-ONC12570DE.00343674-C12570DE.0033DEEB@prod.par.ca-indosuez.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512210444t23e4c1f0u94ece97ae8edcf22@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/21/05, Nina Kerimi <nina.kerimi at se.calyon.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I know that this question might sound stupid but where and how can I check
> what verison of the wiki I am running.

Just go to the Special:Version page  This is accessible off the
Special pages link in the toolbox

--
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 12:51:27 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 07:51:27 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Navigation bar 1.5
In-Reply-To: <OFBC6D3AD4.047C2CC1-ONC12570DE.00337F6A-C12570DE.00344538@prod.par.ca-indosuez.com>
References: <OFBC6D3AD4.047C2CC1-ONC12570DE.00337F6A-C12570DE.00344538@prod.par.ca-indosuez.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512210451j296d396ala51a4314c602aa10@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/21/05, Nina Kerimi <nina.kerimi at se.calyon.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I know that thisquestion was asked earlier this week, but I have read all
> the documents and I cannot manage to get it working.
>
> I want to change the nagivation bar so that it has the links that I want.
> I run 1.5.2
>
> I copied the Navigation links array from the online manual into my
> localsettingsfile because it was not in there. I could also establish that
> these variable is not present in the defaultsetting. But changing this
> array did not make any change.
>
> So I thought that I could do a search in all wiki files and see where e.g
> the word "community portal" occured, I found that the only place it
> occures is in language.php but changing it in that file did not make any
> good either.

1.5 does this a new way. The Navigation and Toolbar content are now in
a wiki page called MediaWiki:Sidebar

The format is documented here:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Navigation_bar
--
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 13:09:55 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 08:09:55 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Problems at chongqed.org?
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512210509v2efc1251o2b9b6d98bd1e097c@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone else use the spam blacklist at chongqued.org?

I've noticed lately that I can no longer resolve the name blacklist.chongqed.org

I also notice that the page served up from http://chongqed.org contains several
instance of

 [an error occurred while processing this directive]

mixed in with the content.

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From juandelacruz at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 18:48:15 2005
From: juandelacruz at gmail.com (Henry Ortega)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:48:15 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] easy html formatting?
Message-ID: <2bffcc330512211048s41b10210u9ec568e793cefc7a@mail.gmail.com>

Is there an easy way to edit or create articles with proper HTML formatting?

It doesn't make sense to me that we have put manual <BR> tags to get a
break. Is there anything I can install extra that would let me display what
I
entered the way I entered it? If I put a line break after each line, it
should distinguish
it as a line break and insert a <BR> when displaying. Same with text
formatting..

I am planning to have a team of people contribute articles to our wiki site,
but I can't afford to train them that triple (') means bold, etc. I like how
Wordpress
(for e.g.) works as far as entering articles in concerned. That way there is
no training
required for non-computer savvy people to enter things in.

Any ideas?


From mediawiki at x11.cjb.net  Wed Dec 21 18:47:17 2005
From: mediawiki at x11.cjb.net (mediawiki at x11.cjb.net)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 13:47:17 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: "user_groups" database corruption
In-Reply-To: <FFDC6760-A8AB-4EFA-B542-A5C638AA7529@Bytesmiths.com>
References: <20051220165356.A57BD195013A@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<FFDC6760-A8AB-4EFA-B542-A5C638AA7529@Bytesmiths.com>
Message-ID: <200512211347.17932.mediawiki@x11.cjb.net>

I'm not sure I will be able to fix the databases on iPowerWeb, I am now trying 
things on my on Linux box.

I was able to export the database into a really long sql statement, but it 
appeared to inly get the first five tables, among them 'cur' and 'archive'.

I see that the latest version of mediawiki (1.5.2) uses 'text' instead of 
'cur', so it won't restore.  For some reason I am having trouble installing 
older versions.

If I open the sql file in a text editor (its about 1 meg), I can see that all 
the content from my wiki is still there. So I ask, what is the best way to 
attempt restoring it?

Thanks, 

Brian

On Tuesday 20 December 2005 12:56 pm, Jan Steinman wrote:
> > From: mediawiki at x11.cjb.net
> >
> > A database error has occurred
> > Query: SELECT ug_group FROM `user_groups` WHERE ug_user = '1'
> > Function: User::loadFromDatabase
> > Error: 1017 Can't find file: 'user_groups.MYI' (errno: 2) (localhost)
>
> It would appear that the index file for the user_groups table has
> been deleted or has wrong permissions.
>
> > I tried to run check tables on it, but it didn't seem to have any
> > effect.
>
> If you run myisamchk from a shell prompt, it should tell you it can't
> access the table.
>
> > I found this person... suggestion was to ask the host about fixing
> > the database, but when I contacted iPowerweb they told me their
> > databases were working fine, and that they didn't support third
> > party software.
>
> Tell them you're not using third-party software; tell them you have a
> database table called "user_groups" that has a problem. Don't mention
> MediaWiki at all -- it's an MySQL problem!
>
> If you're lucky, they can fix that file's permissions. If you're
> slightly less lucky, they may restore it from a recent backup. There
> may be a way of re-creating it if the corresponding .MYD and .FRM
> files are intact.
>
> If the file is simply gone, consider some other service provider!
>
> :::: There was a time when religion ruled the world. It is known as
>
> The Dark Ages. -- Ruth Hurmence Green
>
> :::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van>
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From martin_jambon at emailuser.net  Wed Dec 21 19:21:59 2005
From: martin_jambon at emailuser.net (Martin Jambon)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:21:59 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] version info
In-Reply-To: <OF02FAB172.9DADA18B-ONC12570DE.00343674-C12570DE.0033DEEB@prod.par.ca-indosuez.com>
References: <OF02FAB172.9DADA18B-ONC12570DE.00343674-C12570DE.0033DEEB@prod.par.ca-indosuez.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0512211120590.19177@munge>

On Wed, 21 Dec 2005, Nina Kerimi wrote:

> Hello,
> I know that this question might sound stupid but where and how can I check
> what verison of the wiki I am running.

Follow these links:
   Special pages -> Version


Martin

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From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Wed Dec 21 19:31:49 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 11:31:49 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Get Mediawiki to read template variables within
	extension tags?
In-Reply-To: <20051221092211.852641350A06@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051221092211.852641350A06@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <747B4A83-73C1-4F6A-A5C2-C4DACF26BDFF@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: Billy Covington <wrcovington at gmail.com>
>
> I am attempting to create a template in which all anyone needs to do
> to put a Google Map on a page is use a template with 3 variables
> (longitude, latitude, and description) using Evan Miller's Google Maps
> extension (http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Emiller/ 
> GoogleMapsExtension).
>
> The only problem is, Mediawiki won't read the variables if they're
> inside the <googlemap></googlemap> extension tags.

You will have to modify the extension to feed the included text  
through the wiki parser.

> I am definitely no expert or even novice at php...

This would seem to be beyond your scope, then. It sounds like an  
interesting project, but I have no extra time to help you right now!  
Perhaps someone else with an interest will want to craft a solution.


:::: We may no longer have a free press, but it is reasonably priced.  
-- John Cory
:::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com>




From midom.lists at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 19:55:24 2005
From: midom.lists at gmail.com (Domas Mituzas)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 21:55:24 +0200
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] auto-login in single-sign-on environments
Message-ID: <E681E480-B57A-44B5-8768-DB6F2815B726@gmail.com>

Hi,

I had to make mediawiki work in single-sign-on environment, so ended  
up with single hook and a small extension utilizing it, it just takes  
user parameter from environment, that is provided by HTTP server  
authentication. It completely removes mediawiki account/password  
layer, though does not clean accounts once they've been auto-created.  
Anyway, this is just the idea, than can be polished and used in  
intranets, instead of using AuthPlugin's interface. Moreover, it  
removes lots of mediawiki user object caching, so it would have to be  
moved somewhere in here, as well as sanitizing user names, etc.

Cheers,
Domas

<?

global $wgHooks;
$wgHooks['AutoAuthenticate'][] = 'AuthServerMagic';

$wgExtensionFunctions[]="setupAuthServerMagic";

function setupAuthServerMagic() {
         global $wgSpecialPages;
         unset($wgSpecialPages["Userlogin"]);
         unset($wgSpecialPages["Userlogout"]);
}

function AuthServerMagic(&$user) {

         if ($_SERVER["REMOTE_USER"] == "") {
                 return new User();
         }

         $user = User::newFromName( $_SERVER["REMOTE_USER"] );
         if ( $user->getID() == 0 ) {
                 $user->addToDatabase();
                 $user->setToken();
		$user->setEmail($user."@domain.yaddayadda.com");
		$user->saveSettings();
         } else {
                 /* Should cache some day, I guess :) */
                 $user->loadFromDatabase();
         }
         return true;
}

?>

-- 
http://dammit.lt/


From zeeforel70 at yahoo.com  Wed Dec 21 19:39:05 2005
From: zeeforel70 at yahoo.com (Marcel de Ruiter)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 19:39:05 +0000 (GMT)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Automatically deleted line breaks after section
	editing? 
Message-ID: <20051221193905.15400.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com>

Hi there,
   
  At work we still are using MediaWiki version 1.3.? We plan on migrating to 1.5 in January.
   
  My question is if somebody knows if a (minor) bug in version 1.3 has been solved in newer versions that automatically deleted extra line breaks between neighbouring sections after you have edited only the specific sections?
   
  Thanks in advance.
   
  Best regards,
   
  Marcel 
  The Netherlands

		
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From mailsgetlost at web.de  Wed Dec 21 23:00:53 2005
From: mailsgetlost at web.de (Martin Baumann)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 00:00:53 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Add images to database without upload
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512200641g706793cdg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2076742001@web.de> <e92136380512200641g706793cdg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43A9DEA5.10700@web.de>

My idea was to look at the image upload function and copy the part that 
creates entries into
the database. I couldn't find the right file and line number. Did anyone 
do something similar and
can help me in this thing?

My problem is, that I have a lot of pictures that I want to add to the 
wiki. So it may not be too
complicated for a user to add the image to the wiki.
Any other ideas how to do this?

Thanks, Martin



Rob Church schrieb:

>Look at the schema and see if you can work out how to add rows to the
>image table.
>
>
>Rob Church
>
>On 20/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
>  
>
>>Hi,
>>
>>is there a way to add images to the database without uploading them?
>>Because I have massive problems bypassing save mode I upload image files by hand.
>>But I cannot use [Image ...]. What can I do to use [Image ...] with these images?
>>
>>Thanks, Martin
>>______________________________________________________________
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>>Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193
>>
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From robchur at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 22:57:43 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:57:43 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Automatically deleted line breaks after section
	editing?
In-Reply-To: <20051221193905.15400.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20051221193905.15400.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512211457l739ddeb0s@mail.gmail.com>

Read the changelog? Look at the bug tracker and see if the
corresponding bug report was marked as FIXED?


Rob Church

On 21/12/05, Marcel de Ruiter <zeeforel70 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi there,
>
>   At work we still are using MediaWiki version 1.3.? We plan on migrating to 1.5 in January.
>
>   My question is if somebody knows if a (minor) bug in version 1.3 has been solved in newer versions that automatically deleted extra line breaks between neighbouring sections after you have edited only the specific sections?
>
>   Thanks in advance.
>
>   Best regards,
>
>   Marcel
>   The Netherlands
>
>
> ---------------------------------
> Yahoo! Messenger  NEW - crystal clear PC to PC calling worldwide with voicemail
> _______________________________________________
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>


From robert.pfau at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 23:16:47 2005
From: robert.pfau at gmail.com (Robert Pfau)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 00:16:47 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Problem with Searchfunction
Message-ID: <43A9E25F.7010000@gmail.com>

Hi
Iam having problems with the search function.
It looks like any words i type into the search box is just ignored.
When i enter for example 'Special:Version' it shows me a search-result
without results (not even "0 results found" or something like that)
just blank... :-/
In the url it works fine http://www.dystopie.de/wiki/Spezial:Version
Same with any other article or special site.
You can try search for Searchtest - nothing
and here it is... http://www.dystopie.de/wiki/Searchtest

    *  MediaWiki: 1.5.3
    * PHP: 4.3.10 (apache2handler) (SafeMode is Off)
    * MySQL: 4.1.10a

I have no excessive customisation, its nearly the default settings after
the install.
DebugLogging gives me the following when searching

/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
Start request
GET /wiki/Spezial:Search?search=Searchtest&go=Los
Host: www.dystopie.de
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; de; rv:1.8)
Gecko/20051111 Firefox/1.5
Accept:
text/xml,application/xml,application/xhtml+xml,text/html;q=0.9,text/plain;q=0.8,image/png,*/*;q=0.5
Accept-Language: de-de,de;q=0.8,en-us;q=0.5,en;q=0.3
Accept-Encoding: gzip,deflate
Accept-Charset: ISO-8859-1,utf-8;q=0.7,*;q=0.7
Keep-Alive: 300
Connection: keep-alive
Referer: http://www.dystopie.de/wiki/Hauptseite
Cookie: wiki_dbUserName=WikiAdmin;
wiki_db_mw_session=864e9b5ce8b526639f443d112c8d111c;
wiki_dbLoggedOut=20051221211351; wiki_dbUserID=1

Main cache: fakememcachedclient
Message cache: mediawikibagostuff
Parser cache: mediawikibagostuff
User::loadFromSession() unable to load from memcached
Using reader #0: localhost...
User::loadFromSession() successfully saved user

** private caching;  **
Request ended normally
/////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
The table Searchindex exists btw.

Thx in advance for any help :)
-robert

(The Wiki is in german, but i think nearly everything is
synonymic.Shouldn't be a problem)


From brion at pobox.com  Wed Dec 21 23:39:46 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 15:39:46 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Problem with Searchfunction
In-Reply-To: <43A9E25F.7010000@gmail.com>
References: <43A9E25F.7010000@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43A9E7C2.1060907@pobox.com>

Robert Pfau wrote:
> Hi
> Iam having problems with the search function.
> It looks like any words i type into the search box is just ignored.
> When i enter for example 'Special:Version' it shows me a search-result
> without results (not even "0 results found" or something like that)
> just blank... :-/

Your rewrite rules are broken, and overwrite the query string. Use the QSA
(query string append) option in the rule.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From sy1234 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 23:46:22 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:46:22 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Automatically deleted line breaks after section
	editing?
In-Reply-To: <20051221193905.15400.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com>
References: <20051221193905.15400.qmail@web60424.mail.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512211546t409ab8eds3d7aceba9fcfe87d@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/21/05, Marcel de Ruiter <zeeforel70 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>   My question is if somebody knows if a (minor) bug in version 1.3 has been solved in newer versions that automatically deleted extra line breaks between neighbouring sections after you have edited only the specific sections?

I tested with 1.5 and can confirm that this feature lives on.  I also
noticed it back in the 1.3 days but I got used to hand-trimming my
whitespace.


From sy1234 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 23:51:56 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:51:56 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] easy html formatting?
In-Reply-To: <2bffcc330512211048s41b10210u9ec568e793cefc7a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2bffcc330512211048s41b10210u9ec568e793cefc7a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512211551h74b6db95uceb8e83cc9458091@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/21/05, Henry Ortega <juandelacruz at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is there an easy way to edit or create articles with proper HTML formatting?

Short answer: No


> It doesn't make sense to me that we have put manual <BR> tags to get a
> break. Is there anything I can install extra that would let me display what
> I
> entered the way I entered it? If I put a line break after each line, it
> should distinguish
> it as a line break and insert a <BR> when displaying. Same with text
> formatting..

It's extraordinarily useful in some cases to have soft returns merged
together.  If you really want to force mediawiki to keep your
formatting, place your text in <pre></pre> blocks.

If pre looks ugly to you, you may want to change the style which pre
displays by editing MediaWiki:Monobook.css and putting in div
statements (although my own issues with this functionality continue,
so I can't advise on using it).


> I am planning to have a team of people contribute articles to our wiki site,
> but I can't afford to train them that triple (') means bold, etc. I like how
> Wordpress
> (for e.g.) works as far as entering articles in concerned. That way there is
> no training
> required for non-computer savvy people to enter things in.
>
> Any ideas?

Have everyone use the handy-dandy row of icons at the top of every
edit box.  I personally use <b> <i> etc instead of the legacy "ticks"
which other people seem to like.

Somewhere out there is a macro for word which will convert basic
formatting to mediawiki markup.  This in combination with the external
editor option may be just what you want.

There are also a couple of WYSIWYG editors (wikiwyg) which might be of use.


From robert.pfau at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 23:56:12 2005
From: robert.pfau at gmail.com (Robert Pfau)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 00:56:12 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Problem with Searchfunction
In-Reply-To: <43A9E7C2.1060907@pobox.com>
References: <43A9E25F.7010000@gmail.com> <43A9E7C2.1060907@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <43A9EB9C.4070900@gmail.com>

it worked
RewriteRule     ^wiki/(.*)$           /w/index.php?title=$1 [QSA,L]

did the job ;)

BIG thanks ;)
robert



From sy1234 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 23:55:24 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:55:24 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Calendar
In-Reply-To: <20051221012354.7891C1AC022E@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <deb2337a0512200632o24d40786o1d30d189945aeb2a@mail.gmail.com>
	<20051221012354.7891C1AC022E@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512211555n22774221s889fe77c772ac355@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/20/05, Mauro do Carmo <mauro at carmo.ws> wrote:
> Yes. That is what I want. A Calendar made by links where whenever you click
> in a link (of the Calendar) takes you to another page with the same calendar
> structure.

Then just cut-and-paste the same links on all pages, or put your
calendar links into a template and use {{template name}} on every
page.


> I think that there is some way to do that with less pain than write and save
> all pages manually. And all pages mean something like 100's and 100's of
> pages.

You must put the template on every page, even if it's hundreds of
pages.  The only way to avoid something like that is to edit the
mediawiki template files and insert links manually.. but I don't know
how to do that.  Doing that would put the links on every single page
in your wiki.


From thezeropoint at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 23:57:08 2005
From: thezeropoint at gmail.com (Taneem)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:57:08 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Partial recovery
Message-ID: <524e0bc80512211557k68d9adf4u2dd45568a8598107@mail.gmail.com>

Hello,

I have a rather bleak problem. I have backups of 4 sql tables from an
installation of mediawiki 1.4.x . These are:

archive
cur
recentchanges
user

How much of this data can I recover into a 1.5.3 install, and how can I do
so? For example, I do not see a "cur" table in a fresh install of 1.5.3.

Any and all help would be very much appreciated.

Thanks,
Taneem Talukdar


From sy1234 at gmail.com  Wed Dec 21 23:58:16 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:58:16 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Anti-spam help
In-Reply-To: <06ad01c6050b$b708e370$6400a8c0@PUBLICUS2>
References: <06ad01c6050b$b708e370$6400a8c0@PUBLICUS2>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512211558ycf5b2c4j8644c8a67981cdd@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/19/05, Steven Clift <slc at publicus.net> wrote:
> As you can tell we are suffering from spammers.
> http://www.e-democracy.org/wiki/Special:Recentchanges

SpamBlacklist: http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SpamBlacklist_extension

Ban div tags.  In LocalSettings.php, add:
$wgSpamRegex="/<div/";

My own notes: http://jrandomhacker.info/MediaWiki_security


From sabine_cretella at yahoo.it  Thu Dec 22 00:26:28 2005
From: sabine_cretella at yahoo.it (Sabine Cretella)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:26:28 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Calendar
In-Reply-To: <20051220064859.E33B71AC02CC@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051220064859.E33B71AC02CC@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <43A9F2B4.8090103@yahoo.it>

Mauro, is that for a Wikipedia?

If yes: you can do that easily with a bot. If no: you need to know at 
least how to modifiy the pywikipedia bot in order to accept your domain 
and you can do that using the bot.

If it is needed on a wikipedia, I can help you with creating the 
structure and also uploading it (creating also the first interwiki link 
in order to allow you to run the interwiki bot) - what I then need from 
you is the translation of the basic structure I use to create the pages 
to be uploaded in the desired language.

Bots can safe a lot of time doing things and editing a calendar is also 
easy for people who do not 100% write that specific language.

Well: I can do things on that side (upload) only after the New Year when 
I am back home.

Best,

Sabine

Mauro do Carmo wrote:

>Thanks ALL for all help,
>
>I need some steps about how to create a Calendar like this one:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20s.
>
>I have no idea where should I start from.
>
>Thanks a lot, mauro.
>
>  
>


	

	
		
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From brion at pobox.com  Thu Dec 22 00:25:34 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 16:25:34 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki 1.5.4 released
Message-ID: <43A9F27E.5030806@pobox.com>

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Hash: SHA1

MediaWiki 1.5.4 is a security and bugfix maintenance release.

A hardcoded internal placeholder string has been replaced with a random
one. This closes a hole where security checks in inline style attributes
could be bypassed, injecting JavaScript code that could execute in
Microsoft Internet Explorer.

Other browsers would not be vulnerable.

Several minor fixes are included in this release, most notably a fix
to clear the "you have new messages" flag properly for usernames
containing spaces when e-mail notification is enabled.

See the changelog at the end of the release notes for a full list of
fixes.


Release notes:
http://sourceforge.net/project/shownotes.php?release_id=379951

Download:
http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/wikipedia/mediawiki-1.5.4.tar.gz?download

MD5 checksum:
c5cff706c4d2fc8dd5aabd10f1714be0  mediawiki-1.5.4.tar.gz

SHA-1 checksum:
12ccdbdd295152937595d4a00c41ae156bf19015 mediawiki-1.5.4.tar.gz


Before asking for help, try the FAQ:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_FAQ

Low-traffic release announcements mailing list:
http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-announce

Wiki admin help mailing list:
http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l

Bug report system:
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/

Play "stump the developers" live on IRC:
#mediawiki on irc.freenode.net

- -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com / brion @ wikimedia.org)
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From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec 22 01:20:42 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 01:20:42 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Partial recovery
In-Reply-To: <524e0bc80512211557k68d9adf4u2dd45568a8598107@mail.gmail.com>
References: <524e0bc80512211557k68d9adf4u2dd45568a8598107@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512211720p2112a036o@mail.gmail.com>

Instead of doing that, recover it into an install of 1.4.x, then
upgrade the whole thing to 1.5.4 (literally released less than an hour
ago) in the "normal" manner - watch your character sets.


Rob Church

On 21/12/05, Taneem <thezeropoint at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I have a rather bleak problem. I have backups of 4 sql tables from an
> installation of mediawiki 1.4.x . These are:
>
> archive
> cur
> recentchanges
> user
>
> How much of this data can I recover into a 1.5.3 install, and how can I do
> so? For example, I do not see a "cur" table in a fresh install of 1.5.3.
>
> Any and all help would be very much appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
> Taneem Talukdar
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From mauro at carmo.ws  Thu Dec 22 01:32:36 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 17:32:36 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Calendar
In-Reply-To: <43A9F2B4.8090103@yahoo.it>
Message-ID: <20051222013244.C09851AC0425@mail.wikimedia.org>

Thanks Sabine,

I am afraid, not.

I am using MediaWiki with a different domain. Nevertheless, I will be really
thankful to you for any help, even the little ones. I need them.

So far, if I understood, I will have to modify pywikipedia in order to get
it working with my domain, right?

Have a great time,
mauro.



-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Sabine Cretella
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 4:26 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Calendar

Mauro, is that for a Wikipedia?

If yes: you can do that easily with a bot. If no: you need to know at 
least how to modifiy the pywikipedia bot in order to accept your domain 
and you can do that using the bot.

If it is needed on a wikipedia, I can help you with creating the 
structure and also uploading it (creating also the first interwiki link 
in order to allow you to run the interwiki bot) - what I then need from 
you is the translation of the basic structure I use to create the pages 
to be uploaded in the desired language.

Bots can safe a lot of time doing things and editing a calendar is also 
easy for people who do not 100% write that specific language.

Well: I can do things on that side (upload) only after the New Year when 
I am back home.

Best,

Sabine

Mauro do Carmo wrote:

>Thanks ALL for all help,
>
>I need some steps about how to create a Calendar like this one:
>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/20s.
>
>I have no idea where should I start from.
>
>Thanks a lot, mauro.
>
>  
>


	

	
		
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From mauro at carmo.ws  Thu Dec 22 02:16:35 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:16:35 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Permissions
Message-ID: <20051222021640.9EA5C1AC0293@mail.wikimedia.org>

Hi ALL,

My Projet tends to use open editing philosophy to every one. However, I want
to do that gradually.

For now, I have restricted the editing option to only registered members by
adding this $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit']=false;

I am looking for restricting the access to create a new account, as
instance, as we can see in this address :
http://baoc.org/wiki?title=Special:Userlogin&returnto=Welcome .

I've tried to make some changes in Special:Userlogin.php, but always with no
success. I always get a blank page.

So, here goes my question: How can I change Special:Userloing in order to
get a page with just two box: name & password?

It seems very simple, but not for me. If you could even let me know which
block of code I have to take off, I would really appreciate.

Thanks, mauro.



From youngi at comcast.net  Thu Dec 22 02:24:12 2005
From: youngi at comcast.net (Isaac Gonzalez)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 18:24:12 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Permissions
References: <20051222021640.9EA5C1AC0293@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <001501c6069e$cc4b8aa0$46197443@lan.inventures.com>

// Only SysOp (Admin) can create accounts -
   $wgGroupPermissions['*']['createaccount'] = false;

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mauro do Carmo" <mauro at carmo.ws>
To: "'MediaWiki announcements and site admin list'" 
<mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, December 21, 2005 6:16 PM
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Permissions


> Hi ALL,
>
> My Projet tends to use open editing philosophy to every one. However, I 
> want
> to do that gradually.
>
> For now, I have restricted the editing option to only registered members 
> by
> adding this $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit']=false;
>
> I am looking for restricting the access to create a new account, as
> instance, as we can see in this address :
> http://baoc.org/wiki?title=Special:Userlogin&returnto=Welcome .
>
> I've tried to make some changes in Special:Userlogin.php, but always with 
> no
> success. I always get a blank page.
>
> So, here goes my question: How can I change Special:Userloing in order to
> get a page with just two box: name & password?
>
> It seems very simple, but not for me. If you could even let me know which
> block of code I have to take off, I would really appreciate.
>
> Thanks, mauro.
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l 



From travian.wiki at gmail.com  Thu Dec 22 04:22:18 2005
From: travian.wiki at gmail.com (Travian Wiki)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 22:22:18 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Copy the MonoBook Skin
Message-ID: <37f8f8ac0512212022p21ad37c5kbd3d4cefa296f1e8@mail.gmail.com>

Is it possible to make a copy of the MonoBook skin, and then rename it to
something else?  I want to copy the MonoBook skin, and then start modifying
it from there.

So far, I know that you have to copy the MonoBook folder and rename it to
the skin name.  You then have to copy Monobook.php and rename it to the skin
name.  You then have to change the lines -


class SkinChristmas extends SkinTemplate {

/** Using monobook. */

function initPage( &$out ) {

SkinTemplate::initPage( $out );

$this->skinname = 'Christmas';

$this->stylename = 'Christmas';

$this->template = 'ChristmasTemplate';

}

}

In this example, it would make a skin called Christmas.  Where do you go
from here?  What has to be modified in SkinTemplate.php and SkinPHPTal.php?


From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Thu Dec 22 04:57:06 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 20:57:06 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Help! Need to re-create from changes!
In-Reply-To: <20051221235410.CB99A135095B@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051221235410.CB99A135095B@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <68CF0E39-5C29-4978-B9DA-8E2A6731BFD9@Bytesmiths.com>

Some of you may remember (way back in "Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re:  
1.5.2 problems with MySQL 5.0.16?", six sad days ago) that my 1.5.3  
wiki went away when I installed MySQL 5.0.16.

<sob>It appears that none of the innodb tables are recoverable, even  
on my backup.</sob>

The good news is, it was a young site. I'm now preparing a more  
rigorous backup regime for my more mature MediaWikis.

(I know, I know: mechanic's torque wrench syndrome: "turn until it  
strips, then back off a quarter-turn..." :-)

Luckily, for whatever reason, the changes database was MyISAM, so  
it's still good. (There's something to be said for separate database  
file sets.) But [[Special:Recentchanges]] wouldn't show any of it.

HOWEVER, I stopped sobbing when I was showing a colleague how to get  
an RSS feed in her browser (Safari 2.0.2 rocks!) and I discovered  
that the changes were visible in the RSS feed!

So I've copied what I could from the RSS feed, but am hungry to  
restore the entire site.

So, my questions are:
1) is there a way to get more RSS out of it, like back to the Epoch?  
I searched in my prefs in the Browser, on MediaWiki, and also through  
includes/DefaultSettings.php to no avail. I recall seeing some  
"number of items" setting, but can't find it.

2) or better yet, is there some easier way to recover things from the  
changes? I looked at the database directory, and can't imagine where  
this history is coming from.

:::: Our present economic system is... little more than a well- 
organized method for converting natural resources into garbage. --  
Jay Hanson
:::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van>




From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Thu Dec 22 05:12:42 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 21:12:42 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: easy html formatting?
In-Reply-To: <20051221235410.CB99A135095B@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051221235410.CB99A135095B@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <B8B6F8A1-4F7A-49A0-A297-2B44170486D9@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: Sy Ali <sy1234 at gmail.com>
>
> On 12/21/05, Henry Ortega <juandelacruz at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Is there an easy way to edit or create articles with proper HTML  
>> formatting?
>
> Short answer: No

I think this is one of many, "Can I beat and hammer MediaWiki into  
something I'm more used to."

I think, not only is the answer, "No," but it's actually, "No, isn't  
that grand!"

Case in point: I've never seen a language as beautiful and easy to  
read as Smalltalk. Yet, everyone who creates a new language makes it  
look either like C, or like BASIC. But the way it looks affects the  
way it's used!

I very much prefer wiki markup to XML-style things like HTML. I find  
it really liberates my thinking, so that formatting is more natural  
and more subconscious. And I've been doing HTML longer than I've been  
doing wiki!

I think Ward Cunningham was aware of this. Besides the inventor of  
wiki, he was also a Smalltalk pioneer and a HyperCard enthusiast. He  
could have made it more "HTML-like", or could have spent his time  
making an end-user HTML-entry system instead of wiki, but he crafted  
wiki markup to fill a need that he saw as unfilled with HTML.

>> It doesn't make sense to me that we have put manual <BR> tags to  
>> get a
>> break. Is there anything I can install extra that would let me  
>> display what
>> I
>> entered the way I entered it? If I put a line break after each  
>> line, it
>> should distinguish
>> it as a line break and insert a <BR> when displaying.

Hey, why don't you try the <poem></poem> extension that went whipping  
through here a while ago?

But this is a strange request, coming from someone who wanted "proper  
HTML formatting." Certainly, HTML is even LESS LIKELY to "display  
what [you] entered, the way [you] entered it"!

I think you're just being grouchy. Relax. Play with wiki markup a  
while. Go with the flow.


:::: The per capita wattage that is critical for social well-being  
lies within an order of magnitude which is far above the horsepower  
known to four-fifths of humanity and far below the power commanded by  
any Volkswagen driver. -- Ivan Illich ::::
:::: Jan Steinman http://www.IslandSeeds.org/wiki/Energy ::::



From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Thu Dec 22 05:17:26 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 21:17:26 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Permissions
In-Reply-To: <20051222042240.3173711583A3@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051222042240.3173711583A3@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <7B44F680-4CF3-4D1E-8F66-86C3491967DF@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: "Mauro do Carmo" <mauro at carmo.ws>

> My Projet tends to use open editing philosophy to every one.  
> However, I want
> to do that gradually.
>
> For now, I have restricted the editing option to only registered  
> members by
> adding this $wgGroupPermissions['*']['edit']=false;
>
> I am looking for restricting the access to create a new account...

This is what I use for that purpose:

$wgGroupPermissions['user']['createaccount']    = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['user']['edit']             = true;
$wgGroupPermissions['*'   ]['createaccount']    = false;
$wgGroupPermissions['*'   ]['edit']             = false;



:::: People should be free to speak their mind, but not to invent  
their own history.
:::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van>




From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec 22 06:09:59 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 06:09:59 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Help! Need to re-create from changes!
In-Reply-To: <68CF0E39-5C29-4978-B9DA-8E2A6731BFD9@Bytesmiths.com>
References: <20051221235410.CB99A135095B@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<68CF0E39-5C29-4978-B9DA-8E2A6731BFD9@Bytesmiths.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512212209l71d2293bj@mail.gmail.com>

Recent changes comes out of the recent changes table, which is
basically just a cache for convenience. There's a default age limit of
one week on items, alas...


Rob Church

On 22/12/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
> Some of you may remember (way back in "Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re:
> 1.5.2 problems with MySQL 5.0.16?", six sad days ago) that my 1.5.3
> wiki went away when I installed MySQL 5.0.16.
>
> <sob>It appears that none of the innodb tables are recoverable, even
> on my backup.</sob>
>
> The good news is, it was a young site. I'm now preparing a more
> rigorous backup regime for my more mature MediaWikis.
>
> (I know, I know: mechanic's torque wrench syndrome: "turn until it
> strips, then back off a quarter-turn..." :-)
>
> Luckily, for whatever reason, the changes database was MyISAM, so
> it's still good. (There's something to be said for separate database
> file sets.) But [[Special:Recentchanges]] wouldn't show any of it.
>
> HOWEVER, I stopped sobbing when I was showing a colleague how to get
> an RSS feed in her browser (Safari 2.0.2 rocks!) and I discovered
> that the changes were visible in the RSS feed!
>
> So I've copied what I could from the RSS feed, but am hungry to
> restore the entire site.
>
> So, my questions are:
> 1) is there a way to get more RSS out of it, like back to the Epoch?
> I searched in my prefs in the Browser, on MediaWiki, and also through
> includes/DefaultSettings.php to no avail. I recall seeing some
> "number of items" setting, but can't find it.
>
> 2) or better yet, is there some easier way to recover things from the
> changes? I looked at the database directory, and can't imagine where
> this history is coming from.
>
> :::: Our present economic system is... little more than a well-
> organized method for converting natural resources into garbage. --
> Jay Hanson
> :::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From al.degutis at gmail.com  Thu Dec 22 06:10:44 2005
From: al.degutis at gmail.com (Al Degutis)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 00:10:44 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] side by side tables
Message-ID: <9425013d0512212210j3b09f91didb4e9b0d943fa874@mail.gmail.com>

I'm trying to force myself into using the wiki markup for tables
instead of <table> tags. I've looked at the help files and I think I
understand it but I can't get two tables to come up side-by-side. I'm
trying to use an outer table with two cells in the same row, with each
cell containing another table. The second table is being put beneath
the first one, not next to it. What I'm I doing wrong or is there an
better way? Also, how do I get the contents of the second cell
(Percent) to center?

{|
|-
{| border="1" cellpadding="2"
|+Imaging Brands Used
|-
!Brand!!Percent
|-
|Meade || 17.1%
|-
|Canon || 12.9%
|-
|SBIG || 9.0%
|-
|Philips || 8.3 %
|-
|Nikon || 6.3%
|-
|Starlight Xpress || 4.9%
|-
|SAC Imaging || 3.1%
|-
|AstroVid || 1.7%
|}
||
{| border="1" cellpadding="2"
|+Imager Purchased New or Used
|-
!New/Used!!Percent
|-
|New|| 49.3%
|-
|Used || 12.3%
|}
|}

--
Al Degutis
http://www.skyinsight.com - astronomy
http://www.degutis.com/blog - ramblings


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec 22 06:12:35 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 06:12:35 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Copy the MonoBook Skin
In-Reply-To: <37f8f8ac0512212022p21ad37c5kbd3d4cefa296f1e8@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37f8f8ac0512212022p21ad37c5kbd3d4cefa296f1e8@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512212212r7598f7ect@mail.gmail.com>

Nothing. That's the whole idea of class inheritance. You ought to find
that modification of the skin will now be relatively painless.


Rob Church

On 22/12/05, Travian Wiki <travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> Is it possible to make a copy of the MonoBook skin, and then rename it to
> something else?  I want to copy the MonoBook skin, and then start modifying
> it from there.
>
> So far, I know that you have to copy the MonoBook folder and rename it to
> the skin name.  You then have to copy Monobook.php and rename it to the skin
> name.  You then have to change the lines -
>
>
> class SkinChristmas extends SkinTemplate {
>
> /** Using monobook. */
>
> function initPage( &$out ) {
>
> SkinTemplate::initPage( $out );
>
> $this->skinname = 'Christmas';
>
> $this->stylename = 'Christmas';
>
> $this->template = 'ChristmasTemplate';
>
> }
>
> }
>
> In this example, it would make a skin called Christmas.  Where do you go
> from here?  What has to be modified in SkinTemplate.php and SkinPHPTal.php?
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec 22 06:13:20 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 06:13:20 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] side by side tables
In-Reply-To: <9425013d0512212210j3b09f91didb4e9b0d943fa874@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9425013d0512212210j3b09f91didb4e9b0d943fa874@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512212213h1e5b9c92l@mail.gmail.com>

Use the CSS float style, perhaps?


Rob Church

On 22/12/05, Al Degutis <al.degutis at gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm trying to force myself into using the wiki markup for tables
> instead of <table> tags. I've looked at the help files and I think I
> understand it but I can't get two tables to come up side-by-side. I'm
> trying to use an outer table with two cells in the same row, with each
> cell containing another table. The second table is being put beneath
> the first one, not next to it. What I'm I doing wrong or is there an
> better way? Also, how do I get the contents of the second cell
> (Percent) to center?
>
> {|
> |-
> {| border="1" cellpadding="2"
> |+Imaging Brands Used
> |-
> !Brand!!Percent
> |-
> |Meade || 17.1%
> |-
> |Canon || 12.9%
> |-
> |SBIG || 9.0%
> |-
> |Philips || 8.3 %
> |-
> |Nikon || 6.3%
> |-
> |Starlight Xpress || 4.9%
> |-
> |SAC Imaging || 3.1%
> |-
> |AstroVid || 1.7%
> |}
> ||
> {| border="1" cellpadding="2"
> |+Imager Purchased New or Used
> |-
> !New/Used!!Percent
> |-
> |New|| 49.3%
> |-
> |Used || 12.3%
> |}
> |}
>
> --
> Al Degutis
> http://www.skyinsight.com - astronomy
> http://www.degutis.com/blog - ramblings
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From igtorque at eliop.es  Thu Dec 22 09:59:39 2005
From: igtorque at eliop.es (Ignacio Gonzalez T.)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 10:59:39 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Translations
Message-ID: <43AA871B.27035.A5FCEA6@localhost>

Hello everybody.

I've recently installed Mediawiki in my Department's intranet web server and 
things are working fine.

Alas, some text strings are in English (even very visible ones, such as 
discussion, edit and history) instead of in our local language (Spanish). So I 
decided to translate them, for the beneift of my less international mates.

After reading through the online help pages and documentation, I'm a bit 
confused about the current procedure to translate a wiki to another 
language. On one hand, there is the LanguageXX.php files. On the other 
hand, there is the recommended procedure ("as of August 2005") to edit the 
texts directly through the very wiki editing mechanism and the Special 
Pages.

The last method works fine and is very direct and easy to use. But I find it 
very time consuming: instead of translating a batch of strings, I find myself 
translating string by string and updating page by page on my (very slow) 
server. At this pace, I won't have my wiki ready for Xmas.

Is there any batch procedure for doing the same "in just a couple of 
commits"? I mean, some php script, sql script or the like that takes all the 
string from a text file or table and updates the whole thing. (I'm quite new on 
php, sql, apache and life in general, so I don't know if I am asking for absurd 
things).

Please forgive my na?veness.

Many thanks.
--
Ignacio Gonzalez
igtorque(AT)eliop(DOT)es(ANDTHISISTHEEND)



From ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au  Thu Dec 22 10:39:35 2005
From: ldlewis at swiftdsl.com.au (Laurie Lewis)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 21:39:35 +1100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Translations
In-Reply-To: <43AA871B.27035.A5FCEA6@localhost>
Message-ID: <000501c606e4$005ea2b0$661aa8c0@airedale>

Have you set the default language in LocalSettings.php to Spanish

$wgLanguageCode = "es" ;

This should make the default language show up all system pages of the
wiki.  Also have you set your language preference to Spanish??

Laurie


-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Ignacio Gonzalez
T.
Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2005 9:00 PM
To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Translations

Hello everybody.

I've recently installed Mediawiki in my Department's intranet web server
and 
things are working fine.

Alas, some text strings are in English (even very visible ones, such as 
discussion, edit and history) instead of in our local language
(Spanish). So I 
decided to translate them, for the beneift of my less international
mates.

After reading through the online help pages and documentation, I'm a bit

confused about the current procedure to translate a wiki to another 
language. On one hand, there is the LanguageXX.php files. On the other 
hand, there is the recommended procedure ("as of August 2005") to edit
the 
texts directly through the very wiki editing mechanism and the Special 
Pages.

The last method works fine and is very direct and easy to use. But I
find it 
very time consuming: instead of translating a batch of strings, I find
myself 
translating string by string and updating page by page on my (very slow)

server. At this pace, I won't have my wiki ready for Xmas.

Is there any batch procedure for doing the same "in just a couple of 
commits"? I mean, some php script, sql script or the like that takes all
the 
string from a text file or table and updates the whole thing. (I'm quite
new on 
php, sql, apache and life in general, so I don't know if I am asking for
absurd 
things).

Please forgive my na?veness.

Many thanks.
--
Ignacio Gonzalez
igtorque(AT)eliop(DOT)es(ANDTHISISTHEEND)

_______________________________________________
MediaWiki-l mailing list
MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l



From igtorque at eliop.es  Thu Dec 22 12:27:35 2005
From: igtorque at eliop.es (Ignacio Gonzalez T.)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:27:35 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Translations
Message-ID: <43AAA9C7.7441.AE73828@localhost>

Laurie Lewis wrote:

> Have you set the default language in LocalSettings.php to Spanish
>
> $wgLanguageCode = "es" ;
>
> This should make the default language show up all system pages of the
> wiki.  Also have you set your language preference to Spanish??
>
> Laurie


Yes, everything is as you said. Note that most of the text appears correctly 
translated. There are only a few (but very visible) strings that appears in 
English. Curiously enough, the tab "article" is translated (art?culo) but the 
next tabs, "discussion", "edit", etc. are not.

>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces-
T31ubCBy5U6GglJvpFV4uA at public.gmane.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces-
T31ubCBy5U6GglJvpFV4uA at public.gmane.org] On Behalf Of Ignacio 
Gonzalez
> T.
> Sent: Thursday, 22 December 2005 9:00 PM
> To: mediawiki-l-T31ubCBy5U6GglJvpFV4uA at public.gmane.org
> Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Translations
>
> Hello everybody.
>
> I've recently installed Mediawiki in my Department's intranet web server
> and things are working fine.
>
> Alas, some text strings are in English (even very visible ones, such
> as discussion, edit and history) instead of in our local language
> (Spanish). So I decided to translate them, for the beneift of my less
> international mates. 
>
> After reading through the online help pages and documentation, I'm a
> bit confused about the current procedure to translate a wiki to
> another language. On one hand, there is the LanguageXX.php files. On
> the other hand, there is the recommended procedure ("as of August
> 2005") to edit the texts directly through the very wiki editing
> mechanism and the Special Pages. 
>
> The last method works fine and is very direct and easy to use. But I
> find it very time consuming: instead of translating a batch of
> strings, I find myself translating string by string and updating page
> by page on my (very slow) server. At this pace, I won't have my wiki
> ready for Xmas. 
>
> Is there any batch procedure for doing the same "in just a couple of
> commits"? I mean, some php script, sql script or the like that takes
> all the string from a text file or table and updates the whole thing.
> (I'm quite new on php, sql, apache and life in general, so I don't know
> if I am asking for absurd things). 
>
> Please forgive my na?veness.
>
> Many thanks.
> -- 
> Ignacio Gonzalez
> igtorque(AT)eliop(DOT)es(ANDTHISISTHEEND)
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l-T31ubCBy5U6GglJvpFV4uA at public.gmane.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l


-- 
Saludos,
  Ignacio Gonz?lez Torquemada
  ELIOP, S.A.                Departamento de Productos
  http://www.eliop.es       mailto:igtorque at eliop.es
  Tel. +34 91 383 57 47   Fax. +34 91 302 92 49




From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Thu Dec 22 13:02:02 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 08:02:02 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: easy html formatting?
In-Reply-To: <B8B6F8A1-4F7A-49A0-A297-2B44170486D9@Bytesmiths.com>
References: <20051221235410.CB99A135095B@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<B8B6F8A1-4F7A-49A0-A297-2B44170486D9@Bytesmiths.com>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512220502h838a9bvef36c3055035e289@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/22/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:

> I think Ward Cunningham was aware of this. Besides the inventor of
> wiki, he was also a Smalltalk pioneer and a HyperCard enthusiast. He
> could have made it more "HTML-like", or could have spent his time
> making an end-user HTML-entry system instead of wiki,

But that wouldn't be "the simplest thing that could possibly work," so

> he crafted
> wiki markup to fill a need that he saw as unfilled with HTML.

Oh how I miss those old late-night alcohol fueled discussions with
Ward at OOPSLA!

--
Rick DeNatale

Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec 22 13:05:40 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 13:05:40 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Translations
In-Reply-To: <43AA871B.27035.A5FCEA6@localhost>
References: <43AA871B.27035.A5FCEA6@localhost>
Message-ID: <e92136380512220505n4516b991n@mail.gmail.com>

If you edit the LanguageXX.php files, then you can run the
rebuildMessages.php maintenance script afterwards, which updates the
MediaWiki namespace using the updated language file.

Of course, the other benefit of editing the LanguageXX.php files is
that you can post a patch on BugZilla, which helps to get MediaWiki's
overall internationalisation improved. ;-)


Rob Church

On 22/12/05, Ignacio Gonzalez T. <igtorque at eliop.es> wrote:
> Hello everybody.
>
> I've recently installed Mediawiki in my Department's intranet web server and
> things are working fine.
>
> Alas, some text strings are in English (even very visible ones, such as
> discussion, edit and history) instead of in our local language (Spanish). So I
> decided to translate them, for the beneift of my less international mates.
>
> After reading through the online help pages and documentation, I'm a bit
> confused about the current procedure to translate a wiki to another
> language. On one hand, there is the LanguageXX.php files. On the other
> hand, there is the recommended procedure ("as of August 2005") to edit the
> texts directly through the very wiki editing mechanism and the Special
> Pages.
>
> The last method works fine and is very direct and easy to use. But I find it
> very time consuming: instead of translating a batch of strings, I find myself
> translating string by string and updating page by page on my (very slow)
> server. At this pace, I won't have my wiki ready for Xmas.
>
> Is there any batch procedure for doing the same "in just a couple of
> commits"? I mean, some php script, sql script or the like that takes all the
> string from a text file or table and updates the whole thing. (I'm quite new on
> php, sql, apache and life in general, so I don't know if I am asking for absurd
> things).
>
> Please forgive my na?veness.
>
> Many thanks.
> --
> Ignacio Gonzalez
> igtorque(AT)eliop(DOT)es(ANDTHISISTHEEND)
>
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From al.degutis at gmail.com  Thu Dec 22 13:48:04 2005
From: al.degutis at gmail.com (Al Degutis)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 07:48:04 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Center 2nd column cell content (was: side by side
	tables)
Message-ID: <9425013d0512220548r513aefe2g5c1971263c36b6a2@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/22/05, Rob Church wrote:
> Use the CSS float style, perhaps?

Thanks. I'm muddling my way through using div's for positioning.

How about this one part:
Also, how do I get the contents of the second cell (Percent) to center?

{| border="1" cellpadding="2"
|+Imager Purchased New or Used
|-
!New/Used!!Percent
|-
|New|| 49.3%
|-
|Used || 12.3%
|}

Thanks
Al Degutis


From Udo.Adametz at preh.de  Thu Dec 22 16:51:10 2005
From: Udo.Adametz at preh.de (Udo.Adametz at preh.de)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 17:51:10 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Udo Adametz / Preh GmbH ist
	=?iso-8859-1?q?au=DFer_Haus=2E?=
Message-ID: <OF06A8D5AB.69B9E932-ONC12570DF.005C9339-C12570DF.005C9339@preh.de>

Ich werde ab  22.12.2005 nicht im B?ro sein. Ich kehre zur?ck am
10.01.2006.

Ich werde Ihre Nachricht nach meiner R?ckkehr beantworten.

Ihre Email wurde nicht weitergeleitet. Dies ist eine automatisch erstellte
Nachricht !



From travian.wiki at gmail.com  Thu Dec 22 20:39:56 2005
From: travian.wiki at gmail.com (Travian Wiki)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 14:39:56 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Copy the MonoBook Skin
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512212212r7598f7ect@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37f8f8ac0512212022p21ad37c5kbd3d4cefa296f1e8@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512212212r7598f7ect@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37f8f8ac0512221239v21f106cav4dd13a056271b6aa@mail.gmail.com>

I can modify the existing skin.  I want to copy MonoBook and then modify the
copied version and still have the original version of MonoBook run along
side the new skin.



On 12/22/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Nothing. That's the whole idea of class inheritance. You ought to find
> that modification of the skin will now be relatively painless.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 22/12/05, Travian Wiki <travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Is it possible to make a copy of the MonoBook skin, and then rename it
> to
> > something else?  I want to copy the MonoBook skin, and then start
> modifying
> > it from there.
> >
> > So far, I know that you have to copy the MonoBook folder and rename it
> to
> > the skin name.  You then have to copy Monobook.php and rename it to the
> skin
> > name.  You then have to change the lines -
> >
> >
> > class SkinChristmas extends SkinTemplate {
> >
> > /** Using monobook. */
> >
> > function initPage( &$out ) {
> >
> > SkinTemplate::initPage( $out );
> >
> > $this->skinname = 'Christmas';
> >
> > $this->stylename = 'Christmas';
> >
> > $this->template = 'ChristmasTemplate';
> >
> > }
> >
> > }
> >
> > In this example, it would make a skin called Christmas.  Where do you go
> > from here?  What has to be modified in SkinTemplate.php and
> SkinPHPTal.php?
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec 22 20:48:22 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 20:48:22 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Copy the MonoBook Skin
In-Reply-To: <37f8f8ac0512221239v21f106cav4dd13a056271b6aa@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37f8f8ac0512212022p21ad37c5kbd3d4cefa296f1e8@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512212212r7598f7ect@mail.gmail.com>
	<37f8f8ac0512221239v21f106cav4dd13a056271b6aa@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512221248m370bac1bo@mail.gmail.com>

I mean, you now modify your copy of the skin fine.


Rob Church

On 22/12/05, Travian Wiki <travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> I can modify the existing skin.  I want to copy MonoBook and then modify the
> copied version and still have the original version of MonoBook run along
> side the new skin.
>
>
>
> On 12/22/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Nothing. That's the whole idea of class inheritance. You ought to find
> > that modification of the skin will now be relatively painless.
> >
> >
> > Rob Church
> >
> > On 22/12/05, Travian Wiki <travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Is it possible to make a copy of the MonoBook skin, and then rename it
> > to
> > > something else?  I want to copy the MonoBook skin, and then start
> > modifying
> > > it from there.
> > >
> > > So far, I know that you have to copy the MonoBook folder and rename it
> > to
> > > the skin name.  You then have to copy Monobook.php and rename it to the
> > skin
> > > name.  You then have to change the lines -
> > >
> > >
> > > class SkinChristmas extends SkinTemplate {
> > >
> > > /** Using monobook. */
> > >
> > > function initPage( &$out ) {
> > >
> > > SkinTemplate::initPage( $out );
> > >
> > > $this->skinname = 'Christmas';
> > >
> > > $this->stylename = 'Christmas';
> > >
> > > $this->template = 'ChristmasTemplate';
> > >
> > > }
> > >
> > > }
> > >
> > > In this example, it would make a skin called Christmas.  Where do you go
> > > from here?  What has to be modified in SkinTemplate.php and
> > SkinPHPTal.php?
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From yeidel at wsu.edu  Thu Dec 22 20:59:50 2005
From: yeidel at wsu.edu (Joshua Yeidel)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 12:59:50 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: easy html formatting?
In-Reply-To: <B8B6F8A1-4F7A-49A0-A297-2B44170486D9@Bytesmiths.com>
Message-ID: <BFD053C6.149B6%yeidel@wsu.edu>

On 12/21/05 9:12 PM, "Jan Steinman" <Jan at Bytesmiths.com> wrote:

>> From: Sy Ali <sy1234 at gmail.com>
>> 
>> On 12/21/05, Henry Ortega <juandelacruz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Is there an easy way to edit or create articles with proper HTML
>>> formatting?
>> 
>> Short answer: No
> 
> I think this is one of many, "Can I beat and hammer MediaWiki into
> something I'm more used to."

Or another:  "Mediawiki would make a _great_ content management system, if
only it weren't so... Wiki-ish."

> 
> I think, not only is the answer, "No," but it's actually, "No, isn't
> that grand!"

There's always a trade-off between simplicity and expressiveness and power.
In the case of wikis, some authorial expressiveness is sacrificed to two
related goals:

1) making authoring simple so people will become engaged
2) keeping enough commonality of appearance so that the "community property"
aspect of the wiki is not submerged by individual formatting quirks.

Most content management systems attempt to achieve these goals via
templates;  wikis typically attempt to achieve them by limited markup
vocabularies;  bulletin boards often off UBBcode or another markup for
similar reasons.  None of these strategies is entirely satisfactory even for
their own purposes.

Choose the medicine that fits your ills...

-- Joshua



From mailsgetlost at web.de  Thu Dec 22 22:53:54 2005
From: mailsgetlost at web.de (Martin Baumann)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 23:53:54 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Add images to database without upload
In-Reply-To: <2076742001@web.de>
References: <2076742001@web.de>
Message-ID: <43AB2E82.9060507@web.de>

Is it possible that save mode makes mediawiki absolutely not able to 
upload images?
And as admin of the mediawiki I have no chance to change this fact?

I tried anything I found in this mailing list and in the internet. But 
without success.

ohhhh :-(

Martin



Martin Baumann schrieb:

>Hi,
>
>is there a way to add images to the database without uploading them?
>Because I have massive problems bypassing save mode I upload image files by hand.
>But I cannot use [Image ...]. What can I do to use [Image ...] with these images?
>
>Thanks, Martin
>______________________________________________________________
>Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS!
>Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193
>
>_______________________________________________
>MediaWiki-l mailing list
>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
>  
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec 22 23:02:26 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 23:02:26 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Add images to database without upload
In-Reply-To: <43AB2E82.9060507@web.de>
References: <2076742001@web.de> <43AB2E82.9060507@web.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512221502o47566b80x@mail.gmail.com>

PHP's safe mode breaks a number of things MediaWiki uses, uploads
being one of them. However, it is possible to work around the problem.
Disable hashed uploads, create the individual images subdirectories
and ensure those are writable, then enable uploads and see.

Be aware that safe mode configuration can and will cause other
problems in other areas, some of which don't have corresponding
workarounds.


Rob Church

On 22/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> Is it possible that save mode makes mediawiki absolutely not able to
> upload images?
> And as admin of the mediawiki I have no chance to change this fact?
>
> I tried anything I found in this mailing list and in the internet. But
> without success.
>
> ohhhh :-(
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> Martin Baumann schrieb:
>
> >Hi,
> >
> >is there a way to add images to the database without uploading them?
> >Because I have massive problems bypassing save mode I upload image files by hand.
> >But I cannot use [Image ...]. What can I do to use [Image ...] with these images?
> >
> >Thanks, Martin
> >______________________________________________________________
> >Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS!
> >Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193
> >
> >_______________________________________________
> >MediaWiki-l mailing list
> >MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> >http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> >
> >
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From mediawiki at x11.cjb.net  Thu Dec 22 23:07:42 2005
From: mediawiki at x11.cjb.net (mediawiki at x11.cjb.net)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 18:07:42 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: "user_groups" database corruption
In-Reply-To: <200512211347.17932.mediawiki@x11.cjb.net>
References: <20051220165356.A57BD195013A@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<FFDC6760-A8AB-4EFA-B542-A5C638AA7529@Bytesmiths.com>
	<200512211347.17932.mediawiki@x11.cjb.net>
Message-ID: <200512221807.42612.mediawiki@x11.cjb.net>

Alright so this is my problem.  My site (sauwiki.com)  is down because some of 
the tables cannot be read.  I've pretty much lost hope of getting them back.

I did figure out how to do a repair on all tables, but some of the tables 
could not be found.  

Apparently the newer versions of mediawiki do not use the 'cur' table anymore, 
but mine still has it because I've been upgrading for about two years.

I can see all my pages still in this database, how can I get them out, and put 
them in a new installation of mediawiki?

-Brian

(this is the list of tables I have, and their problems)

krohnefa_wikidb.archive  	repair  	status  	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.blobs 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.brokenlinks 	repair 	status 	O
krohnefa_wikidb.categorylinks 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.cur 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.hitcounter 	repair 	error 	The handler for the table doesn't 
support repair
krohnefa_wikidb.image 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.imagelinks 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.interwiki 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.ipblocks 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.links 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.linkscc 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.logging 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.math 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.objectcache 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.oldimage 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.page 	repair 	error 	Can't find file: 'page.MYI' (errno: 2)
krohnefa_wikidb.pagelinks 	repair 	error 	Can't find file: 
'pagelinks.MYI' (errno: 2)
krohnefa_wikidb.querycache 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.recentchanges 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.revision 	repair 	error 	Can't find file: 
'revision.MYI' (errno: 2)
krohnefa_wikidb.searchindex 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.site_stats 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.text 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.trackbacks 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.transcache 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.user 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.user_groups 	repair 	error 	Can't find file: 
'user_groups.MYI' (errno: 2)
krohnefa_wikidb.user_newtalk 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.user_rights 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.validate 	repair 	error 	Can't find file: 
'validate.MYI' (errno: 2)
krohnefa_wikidb.watchlist 	repair 	status 	OK

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 1:47 pm, mediawiki at x11.cjb.net wrote:
> I'm not sure I will be able to fix the databases on iPowerWeb, I am now
> trying things on my on Linux box.
>
> I was able to export the database into a really long sql statement, but it
> appeared to inly get the first five tables, among them 'cur' and 'archive'.
>
> I see that the latest version of mediawiki (1.5.2) uses 'text' instead of
> 'cur', so it won't restore.  For some reason I am having trouble installing
> older versions.
>
> If I open the sql file in a text editor (its about 1 meg), I can see that
> all the content from my wiki is still there. So I ask, what is the best way
> to attempt restoring it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
>
> On Tuesday 20 December 2005 12:56 pm, Jan Steinman wrote:
> > > From: mediawiki at x11.cjb.net
> > >
> > > A database error has occurred
> > > Query: SELECT ug_group FROM `user_groups` WHERE ug_user = '1'
> > > Function: User::loadFromDatabase
> > > Error: 1017 Can't find file: 'user_groups.MYI' (errno: 2) (localhost)
> >
> > It would appear that the index file for the user_groups table has
> > been deleted or has wrong permissions.
> >
> > > I tried to run check tables on it, but it didn't seem to have any
> > > effect.
> >
> > If you run myisamchk from a shell prompt, it should tell you it can't
> > access the table.
> >
> > > I found this person... suggestion was to ask the host about fixing
> > > the database, but when I contacted iPowerweb they told me their
> > > databases were working fine, and that they didn't support third
> > > party software.
> >
> > Tell them you're not using third-party software; tell them you have a
> > database table called "user_groups" that has a problem. Don't mention
> > MediaWiki at all -- it's an MySQL problem!
> >
> > If you're lucky, they can fix that file's permissions. If you're
> > slightly less lucky, they may restore it from a recent backup. There
> > may be a way of re-creating it if the corresponding .MYD and .FRM
> > files are intact.
> >
> > If the file is simply gone, consider some other service provider!
> >
> > :::: There was a time when religion ruled the world. It is known as
> >
> > The Dark Ages. -- Ruth Hurmence Green
> >
> > :::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
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From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec 22 23:12:25 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 23:12:25 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: "user_groups" database corruption
In-Reply-To: <200512221807.42612.mediawiki@x11.cjb.net>
References: <20051220165356.A57BD195013A@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<FFDC6760-A8AB-4EFA-B542-A5C638AA7529@Bytesmiths.com>
	<200512211347.17932.mediawiki@x11.cjb.net>
	<200512221807.42612.mediawiki@x11.cjb.net>
Message-ID: <e92136380512221512h35022243h@mail.gmail.com>

Your "page" table is buggered. This will be a messier process than
you'd hoped for.


Rob Church

On 22/12/05, mediawiki at x11.cjb.net <mediawiki at x11.cjb.net> wrote:
> Alright so this is my problem.  My site (sauwiki.com)  is down because some of
> the tables cannot be read.  I've pretty much lost hope of getting them back.
>
> I did figure out how to do a repair on all tables, but some of the tables
> could not be found.
>
> Apparently the newer versions of mediawiki do not use the 'cur' table anymore,
> but mine still has it because I've been upgrading for about two years.
>
> I can see all my pages still in this database, how can I get them out, and put
> them in a new installation of mediawiki?
>
> -Brian
>
> (this is the list of tables I have, and their problems)
>
> krohnefa_wikidb.archive         repair          status          OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.blobs   repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.brokenlinks     repair  status  O
> krohnefa_wikidb.categorylinks   repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.cur     repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.hitcounter      repair  error   The handler for the table doesn't
> support repair
> krohnefa_wikidb.image   repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.imagelinks      repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.interwiki       repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.ipblocks        repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.links   repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.linkscc         repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.logging         repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.math    repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.objectcache     repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.oldimage        repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.page    repair  error   Can't find file: 'page.MYI' (errno: 2)
> krohnefa_wikidb.pagelinks       repair  error   Can't find file:
> 'pagelinks.MYI' (errno: 2)
> krohnefa_wikidb.querycache      repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.recentchanges   repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.revision        repair  error   Can't find file:
> 'revision.MYI' (errno: 2)
> krohnefa_wikidb.searchindex     repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.site_stats      repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.text    repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.trackbacks      repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.transcache      repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.user    repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.user_groups     repair  error   Can't find file:
> 'user_groups.MYI' (errno: 2)
> krohnefa_wikidb.user_newtalk    repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.user_rights     repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.validate        repair  error   Can't find file:
> 'validate.MYI' (errno: 2)
> krohnefa_wikidb.watchlist       repair  status  OK
>
> On Wednesday 21 December 2005 1:47 pm, mediawiki at x11.cjb.net wrote:
> > I'm not sure I will be able to fix the databases on iPowerWeb, I am now
> > trying things on my on Linux box.
> >
> > I was able to export the database into a really long sql statement, but it
> > appeared to inly get the first five tables, among them 'cur' and 'archive'.
> >
> > I see that the latest version of mediawiki (1.5.2) uses 'text' instead of
> > 'cur', so it won't restore.  For some reason I am having trouble installing
> > older versions.
> >
> > If I open the sql file in a text editor (its about 1 meg), I can see that
> > all the content from my wiki is still there. So I ask, what is the best way
> > to attempt restoring it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > On Tuesday 20 December 2005 12:56 pm, Jan Steinman wrote:
> > > > From: mediawiki at x11.cjb.net
> > > >
> > > > A database error has occurred
> > > > Query: SELECT ug_group FROM `user_groups` WHERE ug_user = '1'
> > > > Function: User::loadFromDatabase
> > > > Error: 1017 Can't find file: 'user_groups.MYI' (errno: 2) (localhost)
> > >
> > > It would appear that the index file for the user_groups table has
> > > been deleted or has wrong permissions.
> > >
> > > > I tried to run check tables on it, but it didn't seem to have any
> > > > effect.
> > >
> > > If you run myisamchk from a shell prompt, it should tell you it can't
> > > access the table.
> > >
> > > > I found this person... suggestion was to ask the host about fixing
> > > > the database, but when I contacted iPowerweb they told me their
> > > > databases were working fine, and that they didn't support third
> > > > party software.
> > >
> > > Tell them you're not using third-party software; tell them you have a
> > > database table called "user_groups" that has a problem. Don't mention
> > > MediaWiki at all -- it's an MySQL problem!
> > >
> > > If you're lucky, they can fix that file's permissions. If you're
> > > slightly less lucky, they may restore it from a recent backup. There
> > > may be a way of re-creating it if the corresponding .MYD and .FRM
> > > files are intact.
> > >
> > > If the file is simply gone, consider some other service provider!
> > >
> > > :::: There was a time when religion ruled the world. It is known as
> > >
> > > The Dark Ages. -- Ruth Hurmence Green
> > >
> > > :::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van>
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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From sineswiper at gmail.com  Thu Dec 22 13:30:39 2005
From: sineswiper at gmail.com (Brendan Byrd/SineSwiper)
Date: Thu, 22 Dec 2005 08:30:39 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Special:Userlogin results in a blank page
Message-ID: <d93d44f60512220530i72b42559h7a18c6e2b9c3721b@mail.gmail.com>

After an fresh install of MediaWiki, clicking on the "Create an account or
log in" results in either a blank page or download form (with blank content)
in Firefox, or a "Page cannot be displayed" in IE. All other pages seem to
work fine, but there's no way to login.

Web server = Apache/2.0.50 (Linux/SUSE)
PHP = PHP 4.3.8 (cli) (built: Jul  5 2005 19:33:29)
MySQL = mysql  Ver 12.22 Distrib 4.0.21, for suse-linux (i686)
MediaWiki = 1.5.3

Any idea what's going wrong with it?

--
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http://www.ResonatorSoft.org/


From sabine_cretella at yahoo.it  Fri Dec 23 00:08:17 2005
From: sabine_cretella at yahoo.it (Sabine Cretella)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 01:08:17 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Calendar
In-Reply-To: <20051222013244.C09851AC0425@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051222013244.C09851AC0425@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <43AB3FF1.10609@yahoo.it>

Hi Mauro,

>I am using MediaWiki with a different domain. Nevertheless, I will be really
>thankful to you for any help, even the little ones. I need them.
>  
>
If you don't have problems with a Neapolitan or Italian source text I 
can help you to create tha pages to be uploaded - it is easy to do this 
with an Office application (OOo or Microsoft Office) that has mailmerge

>So far, if I understood, I will have to modify pywikipedia in order to get
>it working with my domain, right?
>  
>
yes - I remember that this needs to be done, but I don't remember in 
which file

Best, Sabine

	

	
		
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From mailsgetlost at web.de  Fri Dec 23 00:44:10 2005
From: mailsgetlost at web.de (Martin Baumann)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 01:44:10 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Add images to database without upload
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512221502o47566b80x@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2076742001@web.de> <43AB2E82.9060507@web.de>
	<e92136380512221502o47566b80x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43AB485A.2040301@web.de>

I did this things. But it doesn't help.
As far as I can see the uploading process is done in file 
SpecialUpload.php in function
processUpload(). At least the comments say so.

But which line exactly copies the file from local drive to the temp 
directory?
How is the function named? Is it a standard php function? Or a mediawiki 
function?

This is really tricky to someone that has no experiences in php 
programming...


Martin



Rob Church schrieb:

>PHP's safe mode breaks a number of things MediaWiki uses, uploads
>being one of them. However, it is possible to work around the problem.
>Disable hashed uploads, create the individual images subdirectories
>and ensure those are writable, then enable uploads and see.
>
>Be aware that safe mode configuration can and will cause other
>problems in other areas, some of which don't have corresponding
>workarounds.
>
>
>Rob Church
>
>On 22/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
>  
>
>>Is it possible that save mode makes mediawiki absolutely not able to
>>upload images?
>>And as admin of the mediawiki I have no chance to change this fact?
>>
>>I tried anything I found in this mailing list and in the internet. But
>>without success.
>>
>>ohhhh :-(
>>
>>Martin
>>
>>
>>
>>Martin Baumann schrieb:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Hi,
>>>
>>>is there a way to add images to the database without uploading them?
>>>Because I have massive problems bypassing save mode I upload image files by hand.
>>>But I cannot use [Image ...]. What can I do to use [Image ...] with these images?
>>>
>>>Thanks, Martin
>>>______________________________________________________________
>>>Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS!
>>>Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193
>>>
>>>_______________________________________________
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>>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
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>>    
>>
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>  
>


From sakura.i8i at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 01:47:58 2005
From: sakura.i8i at gmail.com (kaluguran seven)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:17:58 +1030
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Use XmlHttpRequest
Message-ID: <646e71840512221747u44ece6cof02570ad07c0e4dd@mail.gmail.com>

Hi! Has anyone used xmlhttprequest in mediawiki? I am a newbie in using that
but I made it work for sometime and it really worked but after several test
i get some error. The error is regarding responseText. I get the html
version of the page instead of the xml that I made. I found out that the
objectcache prevents the page to execute the xml. After I delete the
objectcache in the database, then the program works the way I want it but
then produce error again after sometime.

Do you know how to disable the object caching. and if ever I do that, is
there any consequence?

I hope someone helps me..

--j*


From cedric at daneel.net  Fri Dec 23 10:10:58 2005
From: cedric at daneel.net (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?C=E9dric?=)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:10:58 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Problem with a french special character
In-Reply-To: <do9gd7$3c0$1@sea.gmane.org>
References: <do9gd7$3c0$1@sea.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <dogifj$4ec$1@sea.gmane.org>

C?dric wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> I have installed mediawiki on http://wiki.placedusport2.com/ to give a 
> place for community work.
> I had to export and reimport mysql data via phpmyadmin. All right, 
> except french sp?cial char "?" (a with an accent on top) wich appear as 
> "?" in every page.
> 
> I try to change this via a little script in wiki_cur and wiki_text 
> tables, but nothing work. Could anyone help me?
> Sorry if the question was already asked, I have found nothing about this 
> problem.
> 
> Regards
> C?dric
> 
> ps: here is the script
> 
> function Remplace($table, $champid, $champtext)
>     {
>     $res=mysql_query('select '.$champid.', '.$champtext.' from '.$table);
>     while ($row = mysql_fetch_assoc($res))
>         {
>         //the string used as search string in str_replace is the one I 
> can see thought phpmyadmin in cur/old_text fields.
>         $row[$champtext]=str_replace('???', utf8_encode('?'), 
> $row[$champtext]);
>     
>         mysql_query('UPDATE '.$table.' SET 
> '.$champtext.'="'.mysql_escape_string($row[$champtext]).'" where 
> '.$champid.'='.$row[$champid]);
>         }
>     }

No one can help me?

Regards
C?dric



From realjaencf at yahoo.es  Fri Dec 23 11:58:27 2005
From: realjaencf at yahoo.es (Manuel Chica Serrano)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 12:58:27 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] how to change the bar of the bottom
Message-ID: <004501c607b8$30f83e70$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>

Hi!! Could i change the bar of the bottom? For example, remove the About... 
link , add a new link etc...
Thanks!! 



		
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From U.Baumbach at web.de  Fri Dec 23 12:41:04 2005
From: U.Baumbach at web.de (Uwe Baumbach)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:41:04 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] create,
	rename a user - external user data base (2nd attempt)
Message-ID: <289133985@web.de>

Hi,

since this is a very important topic for us I repeat my question(s) here.

P.S.:

If these questions are too stupid:
(How) Can I do a full text search of the whole mailing list archive?

===================================================
Is there a official of half-official way to rename a user _name_ ?!

Because:
We have to use an external user database with existing (about) 2000 users. 
With the first logon at our wiki a user record will be created with the name taken from the external table (using AuthPlugin.php)

Only now we realized that there were "bad" user names, e.g. "X0456" (formerly only a logon name - in MW a apparent name) or "kilroy" (first letter in lower case). Those user names are already in use with a lot of creatings/changes of articles.

Furthermore in this external database a UserID (number) is used - and copied into the MW user table too.

Now we have two situations that claim renaming username:
a) The user wants to do so (because of senseless user name). In that case we could suppress this feature for the future in our external application, but if would be nice to have it.
b) Admins want to do so (because of user names with underscores in the name or first letter in lower case already in the MW user table...)

The way _I_ see is: changing all xyz_user_text fields in all MW tables and rename/redirect the user page article.

1. Would that be stable?
2. Is there a way to do so transparently from the MW surface (for admins only)?
3. The function getCanonicalName in AuthPlugin.php can change the user name gotten from external. 
Is this change persistant in that way that a new created user record would get the "munged" user name?

--?
Thanks.

Uwe?(Baumbach)
U.Baumbach at web.de

______________________________________________________________
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From rick.denatale at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 12:53:38 2005
From: rick.denatale at gmail.com (Rick DeNatale)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 07:53:38 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Problem with a french special character
In-Reply-To: <dogifj$4ec$1@sea.gmane.org>
References: <do9gd7$3c0$1@sea.gmane.org> <dogifj$4ec$1@sea.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <deb2337a0512230453o5e72f68av3ed67ac896fe97dd@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/23/05, C?dric <cedric at daneel.net> wrote:
> C?dric wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > I have installed mediawiki on http://wiki.placedusport2.com/ to give a
> > place for community work.
> > I had to export and reimport mysql data via phpmyadmin. All right,
> > except french sp?cial char "?" (a with an accent on top) wich appear as
> > "?" in every page.
> >
> > I try to change this via a little script in wiki_cur and wiki_text
> > tables, but nothing work. Could anyone help me?
> > Sorry if the question was already asked, I have found nothing about this
> > problem.
> >
> > Regards
> > C?dric
> >
> > ps: here is the script
> >
> > function Remplace($table, $champid, $champtext)
> >     {
> >     $res=mysql_query('select '.$champid.', '.$champtext.' from '.$table);
> >     while ($row = mysql_fetch_assoc($res))
> >         {
> >         //the string used as search string in str_replace is the one I
> > can see thought phpmyadmin in cur/old_text fields.
> >         $row[$champtext]=str_replace('???', utf8_encode('?'),
> > $row[$champtext]);
> >
> >         mysql_query('UPDATE '.$table.' SET
> > '.$champtext.'="'.mysql_escape_string($row[$champtext]).'" where
> > '.$champid.'='.$row[$champid]);
> >         }
> >     }
>
> No one can help me?


C?dric,

I went to your wiki and looked at a few random pages. I saw plenty of
a acent grave characters and no odd ?s.

I'm using firefox 1.0.7 on Ubuntu linux 5.10.

This problem is probably either with the way your browser is
displaying the pages, or in phymyadmin's UI.  Have you checked your
browser's preferences?


--
Rick DeNatale

Visit the Project Mercury Wiki Site
http://www.mercuryspacecraft.com/


From travian.wiki at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 15:27:31 2005
From: travian.wiki at gmail.com (Travian Wiki)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 09:27:31 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Copy the MonoBook Skin
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512221248m370bac1bo@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37f8f8ac0512212022p21ad37c5kbd3d4cefa296f1e8@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512212212r7598f7ect@mail.gmail.com>
	<37f8f8ac0512221239v21f106cav4dd13a056271b6aa@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512221248m370bac1bo@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37f8f8ac0512230727q3278973ft894ddb088cf7c360@mail.gmail.com>

What?  How can I take Monobook, and then make a copy of it, and then rename
the copied skin?

First, I copy the Monobook.php file and rename it to the skin name,
Christmas.php.  I then copy the monobook folder and rename it Christmas.
Where do I go from there so that my copy of the skin works?  If I just
upload the Christmas.php and Christmas folder the way they are, you get an
error message when you choose to use that skin!


On 12/22/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I mean, you now modify your copy of the skin fine.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 22/12/05, Travian Wiki <travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I can modify the existing skin.  I want to copy MonoBook and then modify
> the
> > copied version and still have the original version of MonoBook run along
> > side the new skin.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/22/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > Nothing. That's the whole idea of class inheritance. You ought to find
> > > that modification of the skin will now be relatively painless.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rob Church
> > >
> > > On 22/12/05, Travian Wiki <travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Is it possible to make a copy of the MonoBook skin, and then rename
> it
> > > to
> > > > something else?  I want to copy the MonoBook skin, and then start
> > > modifying
> > > > it from there.
> > > >
> > > > So far, I know that you have to copy the MonoBook folder and rename
> it
> > > to
> > > > the skin name.  You then have to copy Monobook.php and rename it to
> the
> > > skin
> > > > name.  You then have to change the lines -
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > class SkinChristmas extends SkinTemplate {
> > > >
> > > > /** Using monobook. */
> > > >
> > > > function initPage( &$out ) {
> > > >
> > > > SkinTemplate::initPage( $out );
> > > >
> > > > $this->skinname = 'Christmas';
> > > >
> > > > $this->stylename = 'Christmas';
> > > >
> > > > $this->template = 'ChristmasTemplate';
> > > >
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > }
> > > >
> > > > In this example, it would make a skin called Christmas.  Where do
> you go
> > > > from here?  What has to be modified in SkinTemplate.php and
> > > SkinPHPTal.php?
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> _______________________________________________
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From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 15:48:27 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 15:48:27 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] how to change the bar of the bottom
In-Reply-To: <004501c607b8$30f83e70$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>
References: <004501c607b8$30f83e70$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>
Message-ID: <e92136380512230748i5f2eba3et@mail.gmail.com>

Yes, this is all done within the skin. See
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki_look_and_feel for more
information on customisation.


Rob Church

On 23/12/05, Manuel Chica Serrano <realjaencf at yahoo.es> wrote:
> Hi!! Could i change the bar of the bottom? For example, remove the About...
> link , add a new link etc...
> Thanks!!
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________
> Renovamos el Correo Yahoo!
> Nuevos servicios, m?s seguridad
> http://correo.yahoo.es
> _______________________________________________
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> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 15:49:04 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 15:49:04 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Copy the MonoBook Skin
In-Reply-To: <37f8f8ac0512230727q3278973ft894ddb088cf7c360@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37f8f8ac0512212022p21ad37c5kbd3d4cefa296f1e8@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512212212r7598f7ect@mail.gmail.com>
	<37f8f8ac0512221239v21f106cav4dd13a056271b6aa@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512221248m370bac1bo@mail.gmail.com>
	<37f8f8ac0512230727q3278973ft894ddb088cf7c360@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512230749k178c95e3k@mail.gmail.com>

Rename the references to MonoBook within the skin files to Christmas
or whatever.


Rob Church

On 23/12/05, Travian Wiki <travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> What?  How can I take Monobook, and then make a copy of it, and then rename
> the copied skin?
>
> First, I copy the Monobook.php file and rename it to the skin name,
> Christmas.php.  I then copy the monobook folder and rename it Christmas.
> Where do I go from there so that my copy of the skin works?  If I just
> upload the Christmas.php and Christmas folder the way they are, you get an
> error message when you choose to use that skin!
>
>
> On 12/22/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I mean, you now modify your copy of the skin fine.
> >
> >
> > Rob Church
> >
> > On 22/12/05, Travian Wiki <travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > I can modify the existing skin.  I want to copy MonoBook and then modify
> > the
> > > copied version and still have the original version of MonoBook run along
> > > side the new skin.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/22/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Nothing. That's the whole idea of class inheritance. You ought to find
> > > > that modification of the skin will now be relatively painless.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rob Church
> > > >
> > > > On 22/12/05, Travian Wiki <travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Is it possible to make a copy of the MonoBook skin, and then rename
> > it
> > > > to
> > > > > something else?  I want to copy the MonoBook skin, and then start
> > > > modifying
> > > > > it from there.
> > > > >
> > > > > So far, I know that you have to copy the MonoBook folder and rename
> > it
> > > > to
> > > > > the skin name.  You then have to copy Monobook.php and rename it to
> > the
> > > > skin
> > > > > name.  You then have to change the lines -
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > class SkinChristmas extends SkinTemplate {
> > > > >
> > > > > /** Using monobook. */
> > > > >
> > > > > function initPage( &$out ) {
> > > > >
> > > > > SkinTemplate::initPage( $out );
> > > > >
> > > > > $this->skinname = 'Christmas';
> > > > >
> > > > > $this->stylename = 'Christmas';
> > > > >
> > > > > $this->template = 'ChristmasTemplate';
> > > > >
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > }
> > > > >
> > > > > In this example, it would make a skin called Christmas.  Where do
> > you go
> > > > > from here?  What has to be modified in SkinTemplate.php and
> > > > SkinPHPTal.php?
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 15:50:11 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 15:50:11 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] create,
	rename a user - external user data base (2nd attempt)
In-Reply-To: <289133985@web.de>
References: <289133985@web.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512230750i745c5939w@mail.gmail.com>

Just change the value of users.user_name. If desired, run a large
query to change all instances of the old username in
revisions.rev_user_text to the new value, but it's not essential.


Rob Church

On 23/12/05, Uwe Baumbach <U.Baumbach at web.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> since this is a very important topic for us I repeat my question(s) here.
>
> P.S.:
>
> If these questions are too stupid:
> (How) Can I do a full text search of the whole mailing list archive?
>
> ===================================================
> Is there a official of half-official way to rename a user _name_ ?!
>
> Because:
> We have to use an external user database with existing (about) 2000 users.
> With the first logon at our wiki a user record will be created with the name taken from the external table (using AuthPlugin.php)
>
> Only now we realized that there were "bad" user names, e.g. "X0456" (formerly only a logon name - in MW a apparent name) or "kilroy" (first letter in lower case). Those user names are already in use with a lot of creatings/changes of articles.
>
> Furthermore in this external database a UserID (number) is used - and copied into the MW user table too.
>
> Now we have two situations that claim renaming username:
> a) The user wants to do so (because of senseless user name). In that case we could suppress this feature for the future in our external application, but if would be nice to have it.
> b) Admins want to do so (because of user names with underscores in the name or first letter in lower case already in the MW user table...)
>
> The way _I_ see is: changing all xyz_user_text fields in all MW tables and rename/redirect the user page article.
>
> 1. Would that be stable?
> 2. Is there a way to do so transparently from the MW surface (for admins only)?
> 3. The function getCanonicalName in AuthPlugin.php can change the user name gotten from external.
> Is this change persistant in that way that a new created user record would get the "munged" user name?
>
> --
> Thanks.
>
> Uwe(Baumbach)
> U.Baumbach at web.de
>
> ______________________________________________________________
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From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 16:04:47 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:04:47 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Use XmlHttpRequest
In-Reply-To: <646e71840512221747u44ece6cof02570ad07c0e4dd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <646e71840512221747u44ece6cof02570ad07c0e4dd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512230804s17a945cap@mail.gmail.com>

Two possible answers. Since it's Christmas, you get the polite one*:
http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Configuration_settings.


Rob Church

*The other, for the curious, is
http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/search?q=MediaWiki+configuration.

On 23/12/05, kaluguran seven <sakura.i8i at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi! Has anyone used xmlhttprequest in mediawiki? I am a newbie in using that
> but I made it work for sometime and it really worked but after several test
> i get some error. The error is regarding responseText. I get the html
> version of the page instead of the xml that I made. I found out that the
> objectcache prevents the page to execute the xml. After I delete the
> objectcache in the database, then the program works the way I want it but
> then produce error again after sometime.
>
> Do you know how to disable the object caching. and if ever I do that, is
> there any consequence?
>
> I hope someone helps me..
>
> --j*
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From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 16:12:21 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 16:12:21 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Add images to database without upload
In-Reply-To: <43AB485A.2040301@web.de>
References: <2076742001@web.de> <43AB2E82.9060507@web.de>
	<e92136380512221502o47566b80x@mail.gmail.com>
	<43AB485A.2040301@web.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512230812p181e9e37y@mail.gmail.com>

The actual uploading bit's done by the browser and the web server; the
PHP script calls functions which finds out where the file content has
gone and what the file's called at that precise moment, amongst other
things.

I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve.


Rob Church

On 23/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> I did this things. But it doesn't help.
> As far as I can see the uploading process is done in file
> SpecialUpload.php in function
> processUpload(). At least the comments say so.
>
> But which line exactly copies the file from local drive to the temp
> directory?
> How is the function named? Is it a standard php function? Or a mediawiki
> function?
>
> This is really tricky to someone that has no experiences in php
> programming...
>
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> Rob Church schrieb:
>
> >PHP's safe mode breaks a number of things MediaWiki uses, uploads
> >being one of them. However, it is possible to work around the problem.
> >Disable hashed uploads, create the individual images subdirectories
> >and ensure those are writable, then enable uploads and see.
> >
> >Be aware that safe mode configuration can and will cause other
> >problems in other areas, some of which don't have corresponding
> >workarounds.
> >
> >
> >Rob Church
> >
> >On 22/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Is it possible that save mode makes mediawiki absolutely not able to
> >>upload images?
> >>And as admin of the mediawiki I have no chance to change this fact?
> >>
> >>I tried anything I found in this mailing list and in the internet. But
> >>without success.
> >>
> >>ohhhh :-(
> >>
> >>Martin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Martin Baumann schrieb:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Hi,
> >>>
> >>>is there a way to add images to the database without uploading them?
> >>>Because I have massive problems bypassing save mode I upload image files by hand.
> >>>But I cannot use [Image ...]. What can I do to use [Image ...] with these images?
> >>>
> >>>Thanks, Martin
> >>>______________________________________________________________
> >>>Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS!
> >>>Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
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From youngi at comcast.net  Fri Dec 23 19:19:22 2005
From: youngi at comcast.net (Isaac Gonzalez)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 11:19:22 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] create,
	rename a user - external user data base (2nd attempt)
In-Reply-To: <289133985@web.de>
Message-ID: <KIEEKHMBNKMLLBPMFAMMOEJBCGAA.youngi@comcast.net>

the way I handle this is when the user does not exist in my external
database, but exists in the wiki, I scramble their password, so they won't
be able to login to Wiki interface, but they will not lose any of their
pages.  I also disabled the email password part in localsettings.php so they
won't be able to get a new password, so that way the external database
controls the usernames/logins in the wiki.

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org]On Behalf Of Uwe Baumbach
Sent: Friday, December 23, 2005 4:41 AM
To: mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] create,rename a user - external user data base
(2nd attempt)


Hi,

since this is a very important topic for us I repeat my question(s) here.

P.S.:

If these questions are too stupid:
(How) Can I do a full text search of the whole mailing list archive?

===================================================
Is there a official of half-official way to rename a user _name_ ?!

Because:
We have to use an external user database with existing (about) 2000 users.
With the first logon at our wiki a user record will be created with the name
taken from the external table (using AuthPlugin.php)

Only now we realized that there were "bad" user names, e.g. "X0456"
(formerly only a logon name - in MW a apparent name) or "kilroy" (first
letter in lower case). Those user names are already in use with a lot of
creatings/changes of articles.

Furthermore in this external database a UserID (number) is used - and copied
into the MW user table too.

Now we have two situations that claim renaming username:
a) The user wants to do so (because of senseless user name). In that case we
could suppress this feature for the future in our external application, but
if would be nice to have it.
b) Admins want to do so (because of user names with underscores in the name
or first letter in lower case already in the MW user table...)

The way _I_ see is: changing all xyz_user_text fields in all MW tables and
rename/redirect the user page article.

1. Would that be stable?
2. Is there a way to do so transparently from the MW surface (for admins
only)?
3. The function getCanonicalName in AuthPlugin.php can change the user name
gotten from external.
Is this change persistant in that way that a new created user record would
get the "munged" user name?

--?
Thanks.

Uwe?(Baumbach)
U.Baumbach at web.de

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From michael at bartmess.net  Fri Dec 23 21:16:19 2005
From: michael at bartmess.net (Michael Bartmess)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 14:16:19 -0700
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: "user_groups" database corruption
In-Reply-To: <200512221807.42612.mediawiki@x11.cjb.net>
Message-ID: <BAY107-DAV9C3B36B1B2BFA91BE5475A5330@phx.gbl>

 
Can you point me at a source of info on "repairing all tables" you referred
to in the previous post?  I have lost the small icons to the editing window
edit bar and need to rebuild something, so thought I might try the
rebuilding of tables you're referring to.

I've asked several times about what ties these icons into the application
but nobody has offered any ideas, so I'm ready to try something new. 

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of
mediawiki at x11.cjb.net
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 4:08 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Re: "user_groups" database corruption

Alright so this is my problem.  My site (sauwiki.com)  is down because some
of the tables cannot be read.  I've pretty much lost hope of getting them
back.

I did figure out how to do a repair on all tables, but some of the tables
could not be found.  

Apparently the newer versions of mediawiki do not use the 'cur' table
anymore, but mine still has it because I've been upgrading for about two
years.

I can see all my pages still in this database, how can I get them out, and
put them in a new installation of mediawiki?

-Brian

(this is the list of tables I have, and their problems)

krohnefa_wikidb.archive  	repair  	status  	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.blobs 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.brokenlinks 	repair 	status 	O
krohnefa_wikidb.categorylinks 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.cur 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.hitcounter 	repair 	error 	The handler for the table
doesn't 
support repair
krohnefa_wikidb.image 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.imagelinks 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.interwiki 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.ipblocks 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.links 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.linkscc 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.logging 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.math 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.objectcache 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.oldimage 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.page 	repair 	error 	Can't find file: 'page.MYI' (errno:
2)
krohnefa_wikidb.pagelinks 	repair 	error 	Can't find file: 
'pagelinks.MYI' (errno: 2)
krohnefa_wikidb.querycache 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.recentchanges 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.revision 	repair 	error 	Can't find file: 
'revision.MYI' (errno: 2)
krohnefa_wikidb.searchindex 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.site_stats 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.text 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.trackbacks 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.transcache 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.user 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.user_groups 	repair 	error 	Can't find file: 
'user_groups.MYI' (errno: 2)
krohnefa_wikidb.user_newtalk 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.user_rights 	repair 	status 	OK
krohnefa_wikidb.validate 	repair 	error 	Can't find file: 
'validate.MYI' (errno: 2)
krohnefa_wikidb.watchlist 	repair 	status 	OK

On Wednesday 21 December 2005 1:47 pm, mediawiki at x11.cjb.net wrote:
> I'm not sure I will be able to fix the databases on iPowerWeb, I am 
> now trying things on my on Linux box.
>
> I was able to export the database into a really long sql statement, 
> but it appeared to inly get the first five tables, among them 'cur' and
'archive'.
>
> I see that the latest version of mediawiki (1.5.2) uses 'text' instead 
> of 'cur', so it won't restore.  For some reason I am having trouble 
> installing older versions.
>
> If I open the sql file in a text editor (its about 1 meg), I can see 
> that all the content from my wiki is still there. So I ask, what is 
> the best way to attempt restoring it?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Brian
>
> On Tuesday 20 December 2005 12:56 pm, Jan Steinman wrote:
> > > From: mediawiki at x11.cjb.net
> > >
> > > A database error has occurred
> > > Query: SELECT ug_group FROM `user_groups` WHERE ug_user = '1'
> > > Function: User::loadFromDatabase
> > > Error: 1017 Can't find file: 'user_groups.MYI' (errno: 2) 
> > > (localhost)
> >
> > It would appear that the index file for the user_groups table has 
> > been deleted or has wrong permissions.
> >
> > > I tried to run check tables on it, but it didn't seem to have any 
> > > effect.
> >
> > If you run myisamchk from a shell prompt, it should tell you it 
> > can't access the table.
> >
> > > I found this person... suggestion was to ask the host about fixing 
> > > the database, but when I contacted iPowerweb they told me their 
> > > databases were working fine, and that they didn't support third 
> > > party software.
> >
> > Tell them you're not using third-party software; tell them you have 
> > a database table called "user_groups" that has a problem. Don't 
> > mention MediaWiki at all -- it's an MySQL problem!
> >
> > If you're lucky, they can fix that file's permissions. If you're 
> > slightly less lucky, they may restore it from a recent backup. There 
> > may be a way of re-creating it if the corresponding .MYD and .FRM 
> > files are intact.
> >
> > If the file is simply gone, consider some other service provider!
> >
> > :::: There was a time when religion ruled the world. It is known as
> >
> > The Dark Ages. -- Ruth Hurmence Green
> >
> > :::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
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From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec 23 22:03:54 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 22:03:54 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: "user_groups" database corruption
In-Reply-To: <BAY107-DAV9C3B36B1B2BFA91BE5475A5330@phx.gbl>
References: <200512221807.42612.mediawiki@x11.cjb.net>
	<BAY107-DAV9C3B36B1B2BFA91BE5475A5330@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <e92136380512231403p5e6e7fb3r@mail.gmail.com>

Disappearing icons has nothing to do with the SQL tables. The images
referred to by the skin and JS all exist, and are all readable by the
web server?


Rob Church

On 23/12/05, Michael Bartmess <michael at bartmess.net> wrote:
>
> Can you point me at a source of info on "repairing all tables" you referred
> to in the previous post?  I have lost the small icons to the editing window
> edit bar and need to rebuild something, so thought I might try the
> rebuilding of tables you're referring to.
>
> I've asked several times about what ties these icons into the application
> but nobody has offered any ideas, so I'm ready to try something new.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
> [mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of
> mediawiki at x11.cjb.net
> Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 4:08 PM
> To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
> Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Re: "user_groups" database corruption
>
> Alright so this is my problem.  My site (sauwiki.com)  is down because some
> of the tables cannot be read.  I've pretty much lost hope of getting them
> back.
>
> I did figure out how to do a repair on all tables, but some of the tables
> could not be found.
>
> Apparently the newer versions of mediawiki do not use the 'cur' table
> anymore, but mine still has it because I've been upgrading for about two
> years.
>
> I can see all my pages still in this database, how can I get them out, and
> put them in a new installation of mediawiki?
>
> -Brian
>
> (this is the list of tables I have, and their problems)
>
> krohnefa_wikidb.archive         repair          status          OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.blobs   repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.brokenlinks     repair  status  O
> krohnefa_wikidb.categorylinks   repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.cur     repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.hitcounter      repair  error   The handler for the table
> doesn't
> support repair
> krohnefa_wikidb.image   repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.imagelinks      repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.interwiki       repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.ipblocks        repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.links   repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.linkscc         repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.logging         repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.math    repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.objectcache     repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.oldimage        repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.page    repair  error   Can't find file: 'page.MYI' (errno:
> 2)
> krohnefa_wikidb.pagelinks       repair  error   Can't find file:
> 'pagelinks.MYI' (errno: 2)
> krohnefa_wikidb.querycache      repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.recentchanges   repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.revision        repair  error   Can't find file:
> 'revision.MYI' (errno: 2)
> krohnefa_wikidb.searchindex     repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.site_stats      repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.text    repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.trackbacks      repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.transcache      repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.user    repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.user_groups     repair  error   Can't find file:
> 'user_groups.MYI' (errno: 2)
> krohnefa_wikidb.user_newtalk    repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.user_rights     repair  status  OK
> krohnefa_wikidb.validate        repair  error   Can't find file:
> 'validate.MYI' (errno: 2)
> krohnefa_wikidb.watchlist       repair  status  OK
>
> On Wednesday 21 December 2005 1:47 pm, mediawiki at x11.cjb.net wrote:
> > I'm not sure I will be able to fix the databases on iPowerWeb, I am
> > now trying things on my on Linux box.
> >
> > I was able to export the database into a really long sql statement,
> > but it appeared to inly get the first five tables, among them 'cur' and
> 'archive'.
> >
> > I see that the latest version of mediawiki (1.5.2) uses 'text' instead
> > of 'cur', so it won't restore.  For some reason I am having trouble
> > installing older versions.
> >
> > If I open the sql file in a text editor (its about 1 meg), I can see
> > that all the content from my wiki is still there. So I ask, what is
> > the best way to attempt restoring it?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Brian
> >
> > On Tuesday 20 December 2005 12:56 pm, Jan Steinman wrote:
> > > > From: mediawiki at x11.cjb.net
> > > >
> > > > A database error has occurred
> > > > Query: SELECT ug_group FROM `user_groups` WHERE ug_user = '1'
> > > > Function: User::loadFromDatabase
> > > > Error: 1017 Can't find file: 'user_groups.MYI' (errno: 2)
> > > > (localhost)
> > >
> > > It would appear that the index file for the user_groups table has
> > > been deleted or has wrong permissions.
> > >
> > > > I tried to run check tables on it, but it didn't seem to have any
> > > > effect.
> > >
> > > If you run myisamchk from a shell prompt, it should tell you it
> > > can't access the table.
> > >
> > > > I found this person... suggestion was to ask the host about fixing
> > > > the database, but when I contacted iPowerweb they told me their
> > > > databases were working fine, and that they didn't support third
> > > > party software.
> > >
> > > Tell them you're not using third-party software; tell them you have
> > > a database table called "user_groups" that has a problem. Don't
> > > mention MediaWiki at all -- it's an MySQL problem!
> > >
> > > If you're lucky, they can fix that file's permissions. If you're
> > > slightly less lucky, they may restore it from a recent backup. There
> > > may be a way of re-creating it if the corresponding .MYD and .FRM
> > > files are intact.
> > >
> > > If the file is simply gone, consider some other service provider!
> > >
> > > :::: There was a time when religion ruled the world. It is known as
> > >
> > > The Dark Ages. -- Ruth Hurmence Green
> > >
> > > :::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van>
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
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From michael at bartmess.net  Fri Dec 23 22:37:01 2005
From: michael at bartmess.net (Michael Bartmess)
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 15:37:01 -0700
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: easy html formatting?
In-Reply-To: <BFD053C6.149B6%yeidel@wsu.edu>
Message-ID: <BAY107-DAV11F8EECFF86E4A3BBC50F0A5330@phx.gbl>

There is a way around this.  Use the mediawiki for what it's designed to do,
create theis templated interwoven documentation.

You can always format an HTML file any way you want and link it as an
external link.

Mix the two together and you may be able to do what you desire  -- "mostly."



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[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Joshua Yeidel
Sent: Thursday, December 22, 2005 2:00 PM
To: mediawiki list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Re: easy html formatting?

On 12/21/05 9:12 PM, "Jan Steinman" <Jan at Bytesmiths.com> wrote:

>> From: Sy Ali <sy1234 at gmail.com>
>> 
>> On 12/21/05, Henry Ortega <juandelacruz at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Is there an easy way to edit or create articles with proper HTML 
>>> formatting?
>> 
>> Short answer: No
> 
> I think this is one of many, "Can I beat and hammer MediaWiki into 
> something I'm more used to."

Or another:  "Mediawiki would make a _great_ content management system, if
only it weren't so... Wiki-ish."

> 
> I think, not only is the answer, "No," but it's actually, "No, isn't 
> that grand!"

There's always a trade-off between simplicity and expressiveness and power.
In the case of wikis, some authorial expressiveness is sacrificed to two
related goals:

1) making authoring simple so people will become engaged
2) keeping enough commonality of appearance so that the "community property"
aspect of the wiki is not submerged by individual formatting quirks.

Most content management systems attempt to achieve these goals via
templates;  wikis typically attempt to achieve them by limited markup
vocabularies;  bulletin boards often off UBBcode or another markup for
similar reasons.  None of these strategies is entirely satisfactory even for
their own purposes.

Choose the medicine that fits your ills...

-- Joshua

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From mailsgetlost at web.de  Fri Dec 23 23:57:01 2005
From: mailsgetlost at web.de (Martin Baumann)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:57:01 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Add images to database without upload
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512230812p181e9e37y@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2076742001@web.de>
	<43AB2E82.9060507@web.de>	<e92136380512221502o47566b80x@mail.gmail.com>	<43AB485A.2040301@web.de>
	<e92136380512230812p181e9e37y@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43AC8ECD.7040202@web.de>

I am not shure what exactly my problem is...
I press upload button, it takes a few seconds, then an error message is 
shown:

Could not copy file "/tmp/php8DaiV2" to "/home/ws/ry149/.public_html/wiki/images/Cutplane_snapshot.png".'

There aren't any files in images/tmp directory. So I guess that not even 
these uploads to the temp directory are
done correct. Then Mediawiki cannot copy file from temp to destination 
directory (as in the message).
But what makes the browkser not to be able to upload files?
I am not an export in web-servers and so. I should do a "little wiki" 
for an programming project.
Maybe I am looking for the wrong things... I thought it would be a good 
idea to look for the command that uploads
the file (from local to temp directory).

Martin


Rob Church schrieb:

>The actual uploading bit's done by the browser and the web server; the
>PHP script calls functions which finds out where the file content has
>gone and what the file's called at that precise moment, amongst other
>things.
>
>I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve.
>
>
>Rob Church
>
>On 23/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
>  
>
>>I did this things. But it doesn't help.
>>As far as I can see the uploading process is done in file
>>SpecialUpload.php in function
>>processUpload(). At least the comments say so.
>>
>>But which line exactly copies the file from local drive to the temp
>>directory?
>>How is the function named? Is it a standard php function? Or a mediawiki
>>function?
>>
>>This is really tricky to someone that has no experiences in php
>>programming...
>>
>>
>>Martin
>>
>>
>>
>>Rob Church schrieb:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>PHP's safe mode breaks a number of things MediaWiki uses, uploads
>>>being one of them. However, it is possible to work around the problem.
>>>Disable hashed uploads, create the individual images subdirectories
>>>and ensure those are writable, then enable uploads and see.
>>>
>>>Be aware that safe mode configuration can and will cause other
>>>problems in other areas, some of which don't have corresponding
>>>workarounds.
>>>
>>>
>>>Rob Church
>>>
>>>On 22/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Is it possible that save mode makes mediawiki absolutely not able to
>>>>upload images?
>>>>And as admin of the mediawiki I have no chance to change this fact?
>>>>
>>>>I tried anything I found in this mailing list and in the internet. But
>>>>without success.
>>>>
>>>>ohhhh :-(
>>>>
>>>>Martin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Martin Baumann schrieb:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>>is there a way to add images to the database without uploading them?
>>>>>Because I have massive problems bypassing save mode I upload image files by hand.
>>>>>But I cannot use [Image ...]. What can I do to use [Image ...] with these images?
>>>>>
>>>>>Thanks, Martin
>>>>>______________________________________________________________
>>>>>Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS!
>>>>>Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193
>>>>>
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From robchur at gmail.com  Sat Dec 24 00:19:11 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 00:19:11 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Add images to database without upload
In-Reply-To: <43AC8ECD.7040202@web.de>
References: <2076742001@web.de> <43AB2E82.9060507@web.de>
	<e92136380512221502o47566b80x@mail.gmail.com>
	<43AB485A.2040301@web.de>
	<e92136380512230812p181e9e37y@mail.gmail.com>
	<43AC8ECD.7040202@web.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512231619u576d7cf2r@mail.gmail.com>

Is the /images directory writable by the web server? You may need to
set global write (CHMOD 777) permissions on it.


Rob Church

On 23/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> I am not shure what exactly my problem is...
> I press upload button, it takes a few seconds, then an error message is
> shown:
>
> Could not copy file "/tmp/php8DaiV2" to "/home/ws/ry149/.public_html/wiki/images/Cutplane_snapshot.png".'
>
> There aren't any files in images/tmp directory. So I guess that not even
> these uploads to the temp directory are
> done correct. Then Mediawiki cannot copy file from temp to destination
> directory (as in the message).
> But what makes the browkser not to be able to upload files?
> I am not an export in web-servers and so. I should do a "little wiki"
> for an programming project.
> Maybe I am looking for the wrong things... I thought it would be a good
> idea to look for the command that uploads
> the file (from local to temp directory).
>
> Martin
>
>
> Rob Church schrieb:
>
> >The actual uploading bit's done by the browser and the web server; the
> >PHP script calls functions which finds out where the file content has
> >gone and what the file's called at that precise moment, amongst other
> >things.
> >
> >I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve.
> >
> >
> >Rob Church
> >
> >On 23/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I did this things. But it doesn't help.
> >>As far as I can see the uploading process is done in file
> >>SpecialUpload.php in function
> >>processUpload(). At least the comments say so.
> >>
> >>But which line exactly copies the file from local drive to the temp
> >>directory?
> >>How is the function named? Is it a standard php function? Or a mediawiki
> >>function?
> >>
> >>This is really tricky to someone that has no experiences in php
> >>programming...
> >>
> >>
> >>Martin
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>Rob Church schrieb:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>PHP's safe mode breaks a number of things MediaWiki uses, uploads
> >>>being one of them. However, it is possible to work around the problem.
> >>>Disable hashed uploads, create the individual images subdirectories
> >>>and ensure those are writable, then enable uploads and see.
> >>>
> >>>Be aware that safe mode configuration can and will cause other
> >>>problems in other areas, some of which don't have corresponding
> >>>workarounds.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Rob Church
> >>>
> >>>On 22/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Is it possible that save mode makes mediawiki absolutely not able to
> >>>>upload images?
> >>>>And as admin of the mediawiki I have no chance to change this fact?
> >>>>
> >>>>I tried anything I found in this mailing list and in the internet. But
> >>>>without success.
> >>>>
> >>>>ohhhh :-(
> >>>>
> >>>>Martin
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Martin Baumann schrieb:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>Hi,
> >>>>>
> >>>>>is there a way to add images to the database without uploading them?
> >>>>>Because I have massive problems bypassing save mode I upload image files by hand.
> >>>>>But I cannot use [Image ...]. What can I do to use [Image ...] with these images?
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Thanks, Martin
> >>>>>______________________________________________________________
> >>>>>Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS!
> >>>>>Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193
> >>>>>
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From mailsgetlost at web.de  Sat Dec 24 09:01:12 2005
From: mailsgetlost at web.de (Martin Baumann)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 10:01:12 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Add images to database without upload
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512231619u576d7cf2r@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2076742001@web.de>
	<43AB2E82.9060507@web.de>	<e92136380512221502o47566b80x@mail.gmail.com>	<43AB485A.2040301@web.de>	<e92136380512230812p181e9e37y@mail.gmail.com>	<43AC8ECD.7040202@web.de>
	<e92136380512231619u576d7cf2r@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43AD0E58.2090906@web.de>

Yepp, also the subdirectories

Rob Church schrieb:

>Is the /images directory writable by the web server? You may need to
>set global write (CHMOD 777) permissions on it.
>
>
>Rob Church
>
>On 23/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
>  
>
>>I am not shure what exactly my problem is...
>>I press upload button, it takes a few seconds, then an error message is
>>shown:
>>
>>Could not copy file "/tmp/php8DaiV2" to "/home/ws/ry149/.public_html/wiki/images/Cutplane_snapshot.png".'
>>
>>There aren't any files in images/tmp directory. So I guess that not even
>>these uploads to the temp directory are
>>done correct. Then Mediawiki cannot copy file from temp to destination
>>directory (as in the message).
>>But what makes the browkser not to be able to upload files?
>>I am not an export in web-servers and so. I should do a "little wiki"
>>for an programming project.
>>Maybe I am looking for the wrong things... I thought it would be a good
>>idea to look for the command that uploads
>>the file (from local to temp directory).
>>
>>Martin
>>
>>
>>Rob Church schrieb:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>The actual uploading bit's done by the browser and the web server; the
>>>PHP script calls functions which finds out where the file content has
>>>gone and what the file's called at that precise moment, amongst other
>>>things.
>>>
>>>I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve.
>>>
>>>
>>>Rob Church
>>>
>>>On 23/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>I did this things. But it doesn't help.
>>>>As far as I can see the uploading process is done in file
>>>>SpecialUpload.php in function
>>>>processUpload(). At least the comments say so.
>>>>
>>>>But which line exactly copies the file from local drive to the temp
>>>>directory?
>>>>How is the function named? Is it a standard php function? Or a mediawiki
>>>>function?
>>>>
>>>>This is really tricky to someone that has no experiences in php
>>>>programming...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Martin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Rob Church schrieb:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>PHP's safe mode breaks a number of things MediaWiki uses, uploads
>>>>>being one of them. However, it is possible to work around the problem.
>>>>>Disable hashed uploads, create the individual images subdirectories
>>>>>and ensure those are writable, then enable uploads and see.
>>>>>
>>>>>Be aware that safe mode configuration can and will cause other
>>>>>problems in other areas, some of which don't have corresponding
>>>>>workarounds.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Rob Church
>>>>>
>>>>>On 22/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>Is it possible that save mode makes mediawiki absolutely not able to
>>>>>>upload images?
>>>>>>And as admin of the mediawiki I have no chance to change this fact?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>I tried anything I found in this mailing list and in the internet. But
>>>>>>without success.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>ohhhh :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Martin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Martin Baumann schrieb:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>is there a way to add images to the database without uploading them?
>>>>>>>Because I have massive problems bypassing save mode I upload image files by hand.
>>>>>>>But I cannot use [Image ...]. What can I do to use [Image ...] with these images?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Thanks, Martin
>>>>>>>______________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS!
>>>>>>>Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>>MediaWiki-l mailing list
>>>>>>>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>>>>>>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
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From realjaencf at yahoo.es  Sat Dec 24 11:20:36 2005
From: realjaencf at yahoo.es (Manuel Chica Serrano)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 12:20:36 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] is it possible to configure User pages as anonymous
	page? 
Message-ID: <004401c6087c$1184f190$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>

Hi!! Firstly, thanks to Rob Church for the last answer.
Now, a new problem, i have the following lines in LocalSettings.php:

$wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['read']  = false;
$wgWhitelistRead = array (  all pages that could be view by anonymous 
sers  );

Although User:XXX pages are included en wgWhitelistRead, anonymous users 
can't view them. Why??

Thanks a lot!! Bye 



		
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From robchur at gmail.com  Sat Dec 24 15:19:32 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:19:32 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Add images to database without upload
In-Reply-To: <43AD0E58.2090906@web.de>
References: <2076742001@web.de> <43AB2E82.9060507@web.de>
	<e92136380512221502o47566b80x@mail.gmail.com>
	<43AB485A.2040301@web.de>
	<e92136380512230812p181e9e37y@mail.gmail.com>
	<43AC8ECD.7040202@web.de>
	<e92136380512231619u576d7cf2r@mail.gmail.com>
	<43AD0E58.2090906@web.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512240719p578ee891x@mail.gmail.com>

Well, the temp. dir. it's attempting to copy from is not the one in
the images dir. - it's the one on the web server. However, I'm not
sure what the problem is here.

If you do a small, pilot install afresh, and without customising
anything else, make the images dir. writable and set $wgEnableUploads
= true in LocalSettings.php, does that work? If so, we know it's a
MediaWiki configuration issue; if not, then it's something else we
should look at.


Rob Church

On 24/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> Yepp, also the subdirectories
>
> Rob Church schrieb:
>
> >Is the /images directory writable by the web server? You may need to
> >set global write (CHMOD 777) permissions on it.
> >
> >
> >Rob Church
> >
> >On 23/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>I am not shure what exactly my problem is...
> >>I press upload button, it takes a few seconds, then an error message is
> >>shown:
> >>
> >>Could not copy file "/tmp/php8DaiV2" to "/home/ws/ry149/.public_html/wiki/images/Cutplane_snapshot.png".'
> >>
> >>There aren't any files in images/tmp directory. So I guess that not even
> >>these uploads to the temp directory are
> >>done correct. Then Mediawiki cannot copy file from temp to destination
> >>directory (as in the message).
> >>But what makes the browkser not to be able to upload files?
> >>I am not an export in web-servers and so. I should do a "little wiki"
> >>for an programming project.
> >>Maybe I am looking for the wrong things... I thought it would be a good
> >>idea to look for the command that uploads
> >>the file (from local to temp directory).
> >>
> >>Martin
> >>
> >>
> >>Rob Church schrieb:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>The actual uploading bit's done by the browser and the web server; the
> >>>PHP script calls functions which finds out where the file content has
> >>>gone and what the file's called at that precise moment, amongst other
> >>>things.
> >>>
> >>>I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Rob Church
> >>>
> >>>On 23/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I did this things. But it doesn't help.
> >>>>As far as I can see the uploading process is done in file
> >>>>SpecialUpload.php in function
> >>>>processUpload(). At least the comments say so.
> >>>>
> >>>>But which line exactly copies the file from local drive to the temp
> >>>>directory?
> >>>>How is the function named? Is it a standard php function? Or a mediawiki
> >>>>function?
> >>>>
> >>>>This is really tricky to someone that has no experiences in php
> >>>>programming...
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Martin
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Rob Church schrieb:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>PHP's safe mode breaks a number of things MediaWiki uses, uploads
> >>>>>being one of them. However, it is possible to work around the problem.
> >>>>>Disable hashed uploads, create the individual images subdirectories
> >>>>>and ensure those are writable, then enable uploads and see.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Be aware that safe mode configuration can and will cause other
> >>>>>problems in other areas, some of which don't have corresponding
> >>>>>workarounds.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Rob Church
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On 22/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>Is it possible that save mode makes mediawiki absolutely not able to
> >>>>>>upload images?
> >>>>>>And as admin of the mediawiki I have no chance to change this fact?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>I tried anything I found in this mailing list and in the internet. But
> >>>>>>without success.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>ohhhh :-(
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Martin
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Martin Baumann schrieb:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Hi,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>is there a way to add images to the database without uploading them?
> >>>>>>>Because I have massive problems bypassing save mode I upload image files by hand.
> >>>>>>>But I cannot use [Image ...]. What can I do to use [Image ...] with these images?
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Thanks, Martin
> >>>>>>>______________________________________________________________
> >>>>>>>Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS!
> >>>>>>>Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193
> >>>>>>>
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From jonstreeter at hotmail.com  Sat Dec 24 15:21:48 2005
From: jonstreeter at hotmail.com (Jonathan Streeter)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:21:48 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Edittools page - how?
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512230750i745c5939w@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <BAY113-F16A9ECC759D76B3B935DD6B2320@phx.gbl>

Hey all,

I have searched around and been unable to find the answer:

how can i add a speaial edittools page which allows me to put easy 
insertable characters and strings on the edit page?

the Wikipedia site has this as a special page here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Edittools

a search through the archives did not reveal an answer...

-jon




From robchur at gmail.com  Sat Dec 24 15:24:17 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:24:17 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] is it possible to configure User pages as anonymous
	page?
In-Reply-To: <004401c6087c$1184f190$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>
References: <004401c6087c$1184f190$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>
Message-ID: <e92136380512240724i62080018k@mail.gmail.com>

When you say they're "included" in $wgWhitelistRead, what exactly have
you set that to for this to be the case?


Rob Church

On 24/12/05, Manuel Chica Serrano <realjaencf at yahoo.es> wrote:
> Hi!! Firstly, thanks to Rob Church for the last answer.
> Now, a new problem, i have the following lines in LocalSettings.php:
>
> $wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['read']  = false;
> $wgWhitelistRead = array (  all pages that could be view by anonymous
> sers  );
>
> Although User:XXX pages are included en wgWhitelistRead, anonymous users
> can't view them. Why??
>
> Thanks a lot!! Bye
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________
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From robchur at gmail.com  Sat Dec 24 15:25:22 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 15:25:22 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Edittools page - how?
In-Reply-To: <BAY113-F16A9ECC759D76B3B935DD6B2320@phx.gbl>
References: <e92136380512230750i745c5939w@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY113-F16A9ECC759D76B3B935DD6B2320@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <e92136380512240725x56fcb844r@mail.gmail.com>

The MediaWiki:Edittools message is present in MediaWiki 1.6-dev;
previous versions don't have it. You can achieve a similar effect
using MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning and MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning2,
however, on release versions.


Rob Church

On 24/12/05, Jonathan Streeter <jonstreeter at hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> I have searched around and been unable to find the answer:
>
> how can i add a speaial edittools page which allows me to put easy
> insertable characters and strings on the edit page?
>
> the Wikipedia site has this as a special page here:
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MediaWiki:Edittools
>
> a search through the archives did not reveal an answer...
>
> -jon
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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From realjaencf at yahoo.es  Sat Dec 24 16:34:53 2005
From: realjaencf at yahoo.es (Manuel Chica Serrano)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 17:34:53 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] is it possible to configure User pages as
	anonymouspage?
References: <004401c6087c$1184f190$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>
	<e92136380512240724i62080018k@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001e01c608a7$ff4b8da0$269fd9d9@usuariomnwvxlv>

Hi! My array contains:

$wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['read']  = false;

$wgWhitelistRead = array ("Portada", "SiMiDa:KEEL",
  "SiMiDa:Ayuda","SiMiDa:About", "User:Anthony", "User:Kevin", 
"Special:Userlogin", "SiMiDa:General_disclaimer","Special:Search");

Anonymous users can't view User:Anthony, User:Kevin, Special:Search and 
General_disclaimer (the names of the pages are correctly written). The 
others pages can be accessed without problems. I don't know what is the 
problem.

bye!


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rob Church" <robchur at gmail.com>
To: "MediaWiki announcements and site admin list" 
<mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org>
Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 4:24 PM
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] is it possible to configure User pages as 
anonymouspage?


When you say they're "included" in $wgWhitelistRead, what exactly have
you set that to for this to be the case?


Rob Church

On 24/12/05, Manuel Chica Serrano <realjaencf at yahoo.es> wrote:
> Hi!! Firstly, thanks to Rob Church for the last answer.
> Now, a new problem, i have the following lines in LocalSettings.php:
>
> $wgGroupPermissions['*' ]['read']  = false;
> $wgWhitelistRead = array (  all pages that could be view by anonymous
> sers  );
>
> Although User:XXX pages are included en wgWhitelistRead, anonymous users
> can't view them. Why??
>
> Thanks a lot!! Bye
>
>
>
>
> ______________________________________________
> Renovamos el Correo Yahoo!
> Nuevos servicios, m?s seguridad
> http://correo.yahoo.es
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From dkbyrne at gmail.com  Sat Dec 24 19:36:58 2005
From: dkbyrne at gmail.com (D B)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 14:36:58 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] "old mySQL" versions message during install of v1.5.2
Message-ID: <ee4495fc0512241136l60702245kd79082fee077da93@mail.gmail.com>

I seem to be having a similar problem installing MediaWiki 1.5.4 on
Mac OS X 10.3.9 with Mysql 5.0.17, Apache 1.3.29 and PHP-4.3.11 (as
was recommended by
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Running_MediaWiki_on_Mac_OS_X).

I can't seem to resolve the "You are using MySQL 4.1 server, but PHP
is linked to old client libraries" error message:

MediaWiki 1.5.4 installation
Please include all of the lines below when reporting installation problems.
Checking environment...
* PHP 4.3.11: ok
* PHP server API is apache; ok, using pretty URLs (index.php/Page_Title)
* Have XML / Latin1-UTF-8 conversion support.
* PHP is configured with no memory_limit.
* Have zlib support; enabling output compression.
* Neither Turck MMCache nor eAccelerator are installed, can't use
object caching functions
* GNU diff3 not found.
* Found ImageMagick: /usr/local/bin/convert; image thumbnailing will
be enabled if you enable uploads.
* Installation directory: /Users/David/Sites/wiki
* Script URI path: /~David/wiki
* PHP is linked with old MySQL client libraries. If you are  using a
MySQL 4.1 server and have problems connecting to the database,  see
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/old-client.html for help.
* Trying to connect to MySQL on localhost as root...
* Connected as root (automatic)
* Connected to 5.0.17-standard; enabling MySQL 4 enhancements; You are
using MySQL 4.1 server, but PHP is linked to old client libraries; if
you have trouble with authentication, see 
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/old-client.html for help.
* Created database wikidb
* Creating tables... using MySQL 3/4 table defs... done.
* Initializing data...
* Granting user permissions...
Wiki has a problem
Sorry! This site is experiencing technical difficulties.
Try waiting a few minutes and reloading.
(Can't contact the database server: )

I've tried using the information provided via the link to
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/old-client.html, but without avail. 
A link on that page directs me to http://www.php.net/mysqli.  The only
way I could think to use this info was to try at the terminal:

cd /usr/local/mysql-standard-5.0.17-osx10.3-powerpc/
.configure --with-mysqli=/Library/MySQL/bin/mysql_config

...though that's probably not right since I get...

NOTE: This is a MySQL binary distribution. It's ready to run, you don't
need to configure it!

Any suggestions would be most helpful.  Thanks!


From mailsgetlost at web.de  Sat Dec 24 23:37:46 2005
From: mailsgetlost at web.de (Martin Baumann)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 00:37:46 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Add images to database without upload
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512240719p578ee891x@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2076742001@web.de>
	<43AB2E82.9060507@web.de>	<e92136380512221502o47566b80x@mail.gmail.com>	<43AB485A.2040301@web.de>	<e92136380512230812p181e9e37y@mail.gmail.com>	<43AC8ECD.7040202@web.de>	<e92136380512231619u576d7cf2r@mail.gmail.com>	<43AD0E58.2090906@web.de>
	<e92136380512240719p578ee891x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43ADDBCA.8020305@web.de>

Hi,

I did what you said: New wiki installation. chmod 777 to images dir and 
subdirectories.
Also $wgEnableUploads = true in LocalSettings.php.
Same thing!

You wrote:

Well, the temp. dir. it's attempting to copy from is not the one in
the images dir. - it's the one on the web server. However, I'm not
sure what the problem is here.

Which temp directory is used? How can I find out which one it is?
Is this a server setting or can I modify this thing within my wiki settings?

Thanks, Martin


Rob Church schrieb:

>Well, the temp. dir. it's attempting to copy from is not the one in
>the images dir. - it's the one on the web server. However, I'm not
>sure what the problem is here.
>
>If you do a small, pilot install afresh, and without customising
>anything else, make the images dir. writable and set $wgEnableUploads
>= true in LocalSettings.php, does that work? If so, we know it's a
>MediaWiki configuration issue; if not, then it's something else we
>should look at.
>
>
>Rob Church
>
>On 24/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
>  
>
>>Yepp, also the subdirectories
>>
>>Rob Church schrieb:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Is the /images directory writable by the web server? You may need to
>>>set global write (CHMOD 777) permissions on it.
>>>
>>>
>>>Rob Church
>>>
>>>On 23/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>I am not shure what exactly my problem is...
>>>>I press upload button, it takes a few seconds, then an error message is
>>>>shown:
>>>>
>>>>Could not copy file "/tmp/php8DaiV2" to "/home/ws/ry149/.public_html/wiki/images/Cutplane_snapshot.png".'
>>>>
>>>>There aren't any files in images/tmp directory. So I guess that not even
>>>>these uploads to the temp directory are
>>>>done correct. Then Mediawiki cannot copy file from temp to destination
>>>>directory (as in the message).
>>>>But what makes the browkser not to be able to upload files?
>>>>I am not an export in web-servers and so. I should do a "little wiki"
>>>>for an programming project.
>>>>Maybe I am looking for the wrong things... I thought it would be a good
>>>>idea to look for the command that uploads
>>>>the file (from local to temp directory).
>>>>
>>>>Martin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Rob Church schrieb:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>The actual uploading bit's done by the browser and the web server; the
>>>>>PHP script calls functions which finds out where the file content has
>>>>>gone and what the file's called at that precise moment, amongst other
>>>>>things.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Rob Church
>>>>>
>>>>>On 23/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>I did this things. But it doesn't help.
>>>>>>As far as I can see the uploading process is done in file
>>>>>>SpecialUpload.php in function
>>>>>>processUpload(). At least the comments say so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But which line exactly copies the file from local drive to the temp
>>>>>>directory?
>>>>>>How is the function named? Is it a standard php function? Or a mediawiki
>>>>>>function?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is really tricky to someone that has no experiences in php
>>>>>>programming...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Martin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rob Church schrieb:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>PHP's safe mode breaks a number of things MediaWiki uses, uploads
>>>>>>>being one of them. However, it is possible to work around the problem.
>>>>>>>Disable hashed uploads, create the individual images subdirectories
>>>>>>>and ensure those are writable, then enable uploads and see.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Be aware that safe mode configuration can and will cause other
>>>>>>>problems in other areas, some of which don't have corresponding
>>>>>>>workarounds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rob Church
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 22/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is it possible that save mode makes mediawiki absolutely not able to
>>>>>>>>upload images?
>>>>>>>>And as admin of the mediawiki I have no chance to change this fact?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I tried anything I found in this mailing list and in the internet. But
>>>>>>>>without success.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>ohhhh :-(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Martin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Martin Baumann schrieb:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>is there a way to add images to the database without uploading them?
>>>>>>>>>Because I have massive problems bypassing save mode I upload image files by hand.
>>>>>>>>>But I cannot use [Image ...]. What can I do to use [Image ...] with these images?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks, Martin
>>>>>>>>>______________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS!
>>>>>>>>>Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>_______________________________________________
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>_______________________________________________
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
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>>>
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From brion.vibber at gmail.com  Sun Dec 25 07:23:32 2005
From: brion.vibber at gmail.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 23:23:32 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] "old mySQL" versions message during install of
	v1.5.2
In-Reply-To: <ee4495fc0512241136l60702245kd79082fee077da93@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ee4495fc0512241136l60702245kd79082fee077da93@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e8342d870512242323r5590043bm60b4921fc3498049@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/24/05, D B <dkbyrne at gmail.com> wrote:
> I seem to be having a similar problem installing MediaWiki 1.5.4 on
> Mac OS X 10.3.9 with Mysql 5.0.17, Apache 1.3.29 and PHP-4.3.11 (as
> was recommended by
> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Running_MediaWiki_on_Mac_OS_X).
>
> I can't seem to resolve the "You are using MySQL 4.1 server, but PHP
> is linked to old client libraries" error message:
[snip]
> I've tried using the information provided via the link to
> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/old-client.html, but without avail.
> A link on that page directs me to http://www.php.net/mysqli.  The only
> way I could think to use this info was to try at the terminal:
[snip]

That part of the MySQL documentation is not really correct. PHP's
mysql extension *does* support the new authentication, *if* it has
been compiled using the newer MySQL libraries. (MediaWiki does not
support the mysqli extension, only the standard mysql extension, at
this time.)

If you are reasonably familiar with installing Unix programs from
source and have the developer tools installed, you can recompile PHP
from source code, passing --with-mysql=/usr/local/mysql to have it use
the libraries from the MySQL.

If that sounds complicated, you should probably first try the
configuration options mentioned in the earlier paragraphs of
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/old-client.html

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)


From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Sun Dec 25 08:13:40 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 00:13:40 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: "old mySQL" versions message during install
In-Reply-To: <20051225072356.9A6E01AC17BD@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051225072356.9A6E01AC17BD@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <0FA28A0E-5230-4960-85B8-207C0CCEB440@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: Brion Vibber <brion.vibber at gmail.com>
>
> On 12/24/05, D B <dkbyrne at gmail.com> wrote:
>> I can't seem to resolve the "You are using MySQL 4.1 server, but PHP
>> is linked to old client libraries" error message:
>
> If you are reasonably familiar with installing Unix programs from
> source and have the developer tools installed, you can recompile PHP
> from source code, passing --with-mysql=/usr/local/mysql to have it use
> the libraries from the MySQL.
>
> If that sounds complicated, you should probably first try the
> configuration options mentioned in the earlier paragraphs of
> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/refman/5.0/en/old-client.html

Put the following in /etc/my.cnf:

[mysqld]
old_passwords=1

This has been criticized as somehow being "less secure", but  
certainly no less secure than MySQL versions prior to the better  
password hashing scheme.



:::: WARNING: free advice is worth every penny you paid for it! ::::
:::: Jan Steinman http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van ::::




From sakura.i8i at gmail.com  Mon Dec 26 07:21:53 2005
From: sakura.i8i at gmail.com (kaluguran seven)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:51:53 +1030
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Use XmlHttpRequest
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512230804s17a945cap@mail.gmail.com>
References: <646e71840512221747u44ece6cof02570ad07c0e4dd@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512230804s17a945cap@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <646e71840512252321k1a641fa2md0e4e2430cb02c5d@mail.gmail.com>

ooopppss.. sometimes asking dumb questions make sense (although I was
expecting a different answer, probably because of a bad quesiton)

:) Merry Christmas!


On 12/24/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Two possible answers. Since it's Christmas, you get the polite one*:
> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Help:Configuration_settings.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> *The other, for the curious, is
> http://www.justfuckinggoogleit.com/search?q=MediaWiki+configuration.
>
> On 23/12/05, kaluguran seven <sakura.i8i at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi! Has anyone used xmlhttprequest in mediawiki? I am a newbie in using
> that
> > but I made it work for sometime and it really worked but after several
> test
> > i get some error. The error is regarding responseText. I get the html
> > version of the page instead of the xml that I made. I found out that the
> > objectcache prevents the page to execute the xml. After I delete the
> > objectcache in the database, then the program works the way I want it
> but
> > then produce error again after sometime.
> >
> > Do you know how to disable the object caching. and if ever I do that, is
> > there any consequence?
> >
> > I hope someone helps me..
> >
> > --j*
> > _______________________________________________
> > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
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From xassius at gmail.com  Mon Dec 26 13:24:52 2005
From: xassius at gmail.com (Carson Ka Shun Au)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 05:24:52 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Customizing Monobook Problems (IE/Firefox)
Message-ID: <ff8a98f0512260524l56e0e93brad63327c714fb0ba@mail.gmail.com>

I have customized some parts of the monobook skin on my wiki -
www.wikihardware.com
However, whilst things appear quite normal with IE, with Firefox, the left
sidebar isn't correctly placed (placed too far down). Does anyone know a
solution to this problem?


From frames at lct.jussieu.fr  Mon Dec 26 21:14:52 2005
From: frames at lct.jussieu.fr (Frames Project)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:14:52 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] To delete all the pages on the data-base written by a
	given User
Message-ID: <43B05D4C.4060902@lct.jussieu.fr>

Is there any tool to delete all the pages on the data-base having been
written by a given User ?
I think it is the easiest way to recover vandalized pages, is that true ?

On the data base, I cannot find out were are the pages.
Could you tell me ?

Thanks

Fran?ois Colonna


From robchur at gmail.com  Mon Dec 26 22:07:48 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 22:07:48 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] To delete all the pages on the data-base written by
	a given User
In-Reply-To: <43B05D4C.4060902@lct.jussieu.fr>
References: <43B05D4C.4060902@lct.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <e92136380512261407l4d2cb9e9u@mail.gmail.com>

I believe there's a Special:Nuke page in the extensions module of the
CVS repository, but it's in an experimental stage, and may not work as
desired.

Pages are stored in the page table; revision information is stored in
the revision table, while the text itself is stored in the text table.
For full details on the database schema, see the documentation on Meta
(http://meta.wikimedia.org), the official web site
(http://www.mediawiki.org), and the well-commented Schema.sql file in
the maintenance directories.


Rob Church

On 26/12/05, Frames Project <frames at lct.jussieu.fr> wrote:
> Is there any tool to delete all the pages on the data-base having been
> written by a given User ?
> I think it is the easiest way to recover vandalized pages, is that true ?
>
> On the data base, I cannot find out were are the pages.
> Could you tell me ?
>
> Thanks
>
> Fran?ois Colonna
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From sy1234 at gmail.com  Mon Dec 26 22:49:58 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 17:49:58 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] To delete all the pages on the data-base written by
	a given User
In-Reply-To: <43B05D4C.4060902@lct.jussieu.fr>
References: <43B05D4C.4060902@lct.jussieu.fr>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512261449n2dc2b4a2we92dae48f54474ea@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/26/05, Frames Project <frames at lct.jussieu.fr> wrote:
> Is there any tool to delete all the pages on the data-base having been
> written by a given User ?
> I think it is the easiest way to recover vandalized pages, is that true ?
>
> On the data base, I cannot find out were are the pages.
> Could you tell me ?

Special:Contributions/username lists the edits for a particular user. 
The only way I know to deal with graffiti is to do it manually.  There
are some bots and such to help with rollbacks, but no official tool
exists.  =(


From mauro at carmo.ws  Tue Dec 27 02:10:19 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:10:19 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] time zone for ~~~~
Message-ID: <20051227021042.DB1201AC03E0@mail.wikimedia.org>

Hi everyone,

I have set up $wgLocaltimezone and I get it right; when I save a page, it
takes the time I've set up in $wgLocaltimezone.

However, when I assign a page with ~~~~, my signature always takes the CST
(Central Standard Time); and unfortunately that doesn't work for me.

Does someone know where should I set up, in order to get the local PC time
into my signatures?

Thanks a lot,
mauro.

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From astronouth7303 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 27 02:33:28 2005
From: astronouth7303 at gmail.com (Jamie Bliss)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 21:33:28 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: time zone for ~~~~
In-Reply-To: <20051227021042.DB1201AC03E0@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051227021042.DB1201AC03E0@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <doq975$j8a$1@sea.gmane.org>

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Mauro do Carmo wrote:
> Does someone know where should I set up, in order to get the local PC time
> into my signatures?

Configure your timezone in the user preferences.

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From mauro at carmo.ws  Tue Dec 27 03:25:03 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 19:25:03 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: time zone for ~~~~
In-Reply-To: <doq975$j8a$1@sea.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <20051227032505.73E1C1AC02A9@mail.wikimedia.org>

Thanks Jamie,

I've checked out Time Zone in user preferences, but I have not seen where I
should change the configuration there.

If you could give me more detail I would appreciate,

Thanks, mauro.

-----------

Hi everyone,

I have set up $wgLocaltimezone and I get it right; when I save a page, it
takes the time I've set up in $wgLocaltimezone.

However, when I assign a page with ~~~~, my signature always takes the CST
(Central Standard Time); and unfortunately that doesn't work for me.

Does someone know where should I set up, in order to get the local PC time
into my signatures?

Thanks a lot,
mauro. 

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, December 26, 2005 6:33 PM
To: mediawiki-l at wikimedia.org
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: time zone for ~~~~

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
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Mauro do Carmo wrote:
> Does someone know where should I set up, in order to get the local PC time
> into my signatures?

Configure your timezone in the user preferences.

- -- Jamie

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From tburns at hawaii.edu  Tue Dec 27 04:01:40 2005
From: tburns at hawaii.edu (Thomas David Burns)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 18:01:40 -1000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] how to delete my wiki page? mistakes orphans etc.
Message-ID: <f5fe0cbe34395.43b03004@hawaii.edu>

I'd like to get rid of some of the pages in my wiki. I've spent about an hour RTFMing around in the docs, can't seem to find the answer.  Or is the philosophy to never delete anything? Even if this is the case, seems like the user guide should have an entry "Deleting Wiki pages: Just don't."
I guess I could use mysql to delete them directly from the db, but I bet it would be easy to make a ghastly mess.
Dave


From martin_jambon at emailuser.net  Tue Dec 27 07:07:03 2005
From: martin_jambon at emailuser.net (Martin Jambon)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:07:03 -0800 (PST)
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] how to delete my wiki page? mistakes orphans etc.
In-Reply-To: <f5fe0cbe34395.43b03004@hawaii.edu>
References: <f5fe0cbe34395.43b03004@hawaii.edu>
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.63.0512262303490.6820@droopy>

On Mon, 26 Dec 2005, Thomas David Burns wrote:

> I'd like to get rid of some of the pages in my wiki. I've spent about an hour RTFMing around in the docs, can't seem to find the answer.  Or is the philosophy to never delete anything? Even if this is the case, seems like the user guide should have an entry "Deleting Wiki pages: Just don't."
> I guess I could use mysql to delete them directly from the db, but I bet it would be easy to make a ghastly mess.
> Dave

You must have sysop rights for doing this.
See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Administration


Martin

--
Martin Jambon, PhD
http://martin.jambon.free.fr

Visit http://wikiomics.org, the Bioinformatics Howto Wiki


From mailsgetlost at web.de  Tue Dec 27 07:03:30 2005
From: mailsgetlost at web.de (Martin Baumann)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 08:03:30 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Add images to database without upload
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512240719p578ee891x@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2076742001@web.de>
	<43AB2E82.9060507@web.de>	<e92136380512221502o47566b80x@mail.gmail.com>	<43AB485A.2040301@web.de>	<e92136380512230812p181e9e37y@mail.gmail.com>	<43AC8ECD.7040202@web.de>	<e92136380512231619u576d7cf2r@mail.gmail.com>	<43AD0E58.2090906@web.de>
	<e92136380512240719p578ee891x@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43B0E742.5060909@web.de>

What is the upload command?
Written in HTML? PHP?

Martin

Rob Church schrieb:

>Well, the temp. dir. it's attempting to copy from is not the one in
>the images dir. - it's the one on the web server. However, I'm not
>sure what the problem is here.
>
>If you do a small, pilot install afresh, and without customising
>anything else, make the images dir. writable and set $wgEnableUploads
>= true in LocalSettings.php, does that work? If so, we know it's a
>MediaWiki configuration issue; if not, then it's something else we
>should look at.
>
>
>Rob Church
>
>On 24/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
>  
>
>>Yepp, also the subdirectories
>>
>>Rob Church schrieb:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>Is the /images directory writable by the web server? You may need to
>>>set global write (CHMOD 777) permissions on it.
>>>
>>>
>>>Rob Church
>>>
>>>On 23/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>      
>>>
>>>>I am not shure what exactly my problem is...
>>>>I press upload button, it takes a few seconds, then an error message is
>>>>shown:
>>>>
>>>>Could not copy file "/tmp/php8DaiV2" to "/home/ws/ry149/.public_html/wiki/images/Cutplane_snapshot.png".'
>>>>
>>>>There aren't any files in images/tmp directory. So I guess that not even
>>>>these uploads to the temp directory are
>>>>done correct. Then Mediawiki cannot copy file from temp to destination
>>>>directory (as in the message).
>>>>But what makes the browkser not to be able to upload files?
>>>>I am not an export in web-servers and so. I should do a "little wiki"
>>>>for an programming project.
>>>>Maybe I am looking for the wrong things... I thought it would be a good
>>>>idea to look for the command that uploads
>>>>the file (from local to temp directory).
>>>>
>>>>Martin
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Rob Church schrieb:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>The actual uploading bit's done by the browser and the web server; the
>>>>>PHP script calls functions which finds out where the file content has
>>>>>gone and what the file's called at that precise moment, amongst other
>>>>>things.
>>>>>
>>>>>I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>Rob Church
>>>>>
>>>>>On 23/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>>>I did this things. But it doesn't help.
>>>>>>As far as I can see the uploading process is done in file
>>>>>>SpecialUpload.php in function
>>>>>>processUpload(). At least the comments say so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>But which line exactly copies the file from local drive to the temp
>>>>>>directory?
>>>>>>How is the function named? Is it a standard php function? Or a mediawiki
>>>>>>function?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>This is really tricky to someone that has no experiences in php
>>>>>>programming...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Martin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Rob Church schrieb:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>PHP's safe mode breaks a number of things MediaWiki uses, uploads
>>>>>>>being one of them. However, it is possible to work around the problem.
>>>>>>>Disable hashed uploads, create the individual images subdirectories
>>>>>>>and ensure those are writable, then enable uploads and see.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Be aware that safe mode configuration can and will cause other
>>>>>>>problems in other areas, some of which don't have corresponding
>>>>>>>workarounds.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Rob Church
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On 22/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Is it possible that save mode makes mediawiki absolutely not able to
>>>>>>>>upload images?
>>>>>>>>And as admin of the mediawiki I have no chance to change this fact?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>I tried anything I found in this mailing list and in the internet. But
>>>>>>>>without success.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>ohhhh :-(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Martin
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>Martin Baumann schrieb:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Hi,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>is there a way to add images to the database without uploading them?
>>>>>>>>>Because I have massive problems bypassing save mode I upload image files by hand.
>>>>>>>>>But I cannot use [Image ...]. What can I do to use [Image ...] with these images?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>Thanks, Martin
>>>>>>>>>______________________________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS!
>>>>>>>>>Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>MediaWiki-l mailing list
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>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>MediaWiki-l mailing list
>>>>>>>>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>>>>>>>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>                
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>>MediaWiki-l mailing list
>>>>>>>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>>>>>>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>              
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>>MediaWiki-l mailing list
>>>>>>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>>>>>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>            
>>>>>>
>>>>>_______________________________________________
>>>>>MediaWiki-l mailing list
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>>>>>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>          
>>>>>
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>>>>
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From xassius at gmail.com  Tue Dec 27 07:38:21 2005
From: xassius at gmail.com (Carson Ka Shun Au)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 23:38:21 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Customizing Monobook Problems (IE/Firefox)
In-Reply-To: <ff8a98f0512260524l56e0e93brad63327c714fb0ba@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ff8a98f0512260524l56e0e93brad63327c714fb0ba@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ff8a98f0512262338vbd52ee0qb5a32a5d756d82a1@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/26/05, Carson Ka Shun Au <xassius at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I have customized some parts of the monobook skin on my wiki -
> www.wikihardware.com
> However, whilst things appear quite normal with IE, with Firefox, the left
> sidebar isn't correctly placed (placed too far down). Does anyone know a
> solution to this problem?
>


From sy1234 at gmail.com  Tue Dec 27 12:07:52 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 07:07:52 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] how to delete my wiki page? mistakes orphans etc.
In-Reply-To: <f5fe0cbe34395.43b03004@hawaii.edu>
References: <f5fe0cbe34395.43b03004@hawaii.edu>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512270407y78932121m5528850ef7513cd8@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/26/05, Thomas David Burns <tburns at hawaii.edu> wrote:
> I'd like to get rid of some of the pages in my wiki. I've spent about an hour RTFMing around in the docs, can't seem to find the answer.  Or is the philosophy to never delete anything? Even if this is the case, seems like the user guide should have an entry "Deleting Wiki pages: Just don't."
> I guess I could use mysql to delete them directly from the db, but I bet it would be easy to make a ghastly mess.

<rant>

No there is no functionality to:
* actually permanently delete..
* merge revisions made by the same author (even revisions that happen
within seconds of oneanother)
* purge deletion history (all, or before a particular date)
* nuke edits by a particular user (some alpha code exists but isn't done)

So for editors like myself who have many thousands of minor edits
there are many thousands of revisions.  Until recently, mediawiki kept
a complete page for every edit.  This means that I have really
mindboggling bloat on my database, with no safe way to remove it. 
This makes backing up my system extraordinarily tedious.

I investigated a little bit, and apparently going into the database
would indeed be required to purge history.. but such things are not
for me.. I'd rather have a trusted tool to do that sort of stuff for
me.

</rant>


Apologies for the rant, this is another sore spot..


From joshua_seagroves at hotmail.com  Tue Dec 27 14:23:39 2005
From: joshua_seagroves at hotmail.com (Joshua Seagroves)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 09:23:39 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Export Wiki's to Static HTML
In-Reply-To: <20051227061024.0BCF91AC03F9@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <BAY101-DAV116923A8234FD35A80AECAF7370@phx.gbl>

I have a simple WGET script running now to extract Wiki's once they get to a
stage that we want. 

However, the links don't update and fix themselves appropriately and was
wondering if someone is trying to do the same and maybe go some kind of hack
working.  All I am trying to do is export to static html, have the links
inside update and keep the metadata. 

Thanks

Joshua


From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec 27 15:45:37 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 15:45:37 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] how to delete my wiki page? mistakes orphans etc.
In-Reply-To: <f5fe0cbe34395.43b03004@hawaii.edu>
References: <f5fe0cbe34395.43b03004@hawaii.edu>
Message-ID: <e92136380512270745i1c9e96cex@mail.gmail.com>

When logged in as a user with sysop rights, click the Delete button at
the top of the page, fill in a reason if desired, then click OK.


Rob Church

On 27/12/05, Thomas David Burns <tburns at hawaii.edu> wrote:
> I'd like to get rid of some of the pages in my wiki. I've spent about an hour RTFMing around in the docs, can't seem to find the answer.  Or is the philosophy to never delete anything? Even if this is the case, seems like the user guide should have an entry "Deleting Wiki pages: Just don't."
> I guess I could use mysql to delete them directly from the db, but I bet it would be easy to make a ghastly mess.
> Dave
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Tue Dec 27 15:55:12 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 15:55:12 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Add images to database without upload
In-Reply-To: <43B0E742.5060909@web.de>
References: <2076742001@web.de> <43AB2E82.9060507@web.de>
	<e92136380512221502o47566b80x@mail.gmail.com>
	<43AB485A.2040301@web.de>
	<e92136380512230812p181e9e37y@mail.gmail.com>
	<43AC8ECD.7040202@web.de>
	<e92136380512231619u576d7cf2r@mail.gmail.com>
	<43AD0E58.2090906@web.de>
	<e92136380512240719p578ee891x@mail.gmail.com>
	<43B0E742.5060909@web.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512270755h221cf254x@mail.gmail.com>

There is no "command" which performs the actual upload; the upload
form contains a "file" field. Upon submission of the form, the web
server and browser handle the upload between them, the former saves
the uploaded file in a temp. dir.

The PHP functions handling the form submission will access this file
using functions to get the file's name and location, and copy the file
to a known location, in this case, the images dir., before adding
information about the file to the database.

You might write a simple HTML form and a PHP script which handles it.
The form would contain a file field, the script would attempt to copy
the uploaded file from the temp. dir. to another directory. If you
encounter errors here, then it's almost certainly a global
configuration error. If not, then it's probably still a configuration
error, but restricted to MediaWiki.


Rob Church

On 27/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> What is the upload command?
> Written in HTML? PHP?
>
> Martin
>
> Rob Church schrieb:
>
> >Well, the temp. dir. it's attempting to copy from is not the one in
> >the images dir. - it's the one on the web server. However, I'm not
> >sure what the problem is here.
> >
> >If you do a small, pilot install afresh, and without customising
> >anything else, make the images dir. writable and set $wgEnableUploads
> >= true in LocalSettings.php, does that work? If so, we know it's a
> >MediaWiki configuration issue; if not, then it's something else we
> >should look at.
> >
> >
> >Rob Church
> >
> >On 24/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Yepp, also the subdirectories
> >>
> >>Rob Church schrieb:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Is the /images directory writable by the web server? You may need to
> >>>set global write (CHMOD 777) permissions on it.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>Rob Church
> >>>
> >>>On 23/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>I am not shure what exactly my problem is...
> >>>>I press upload button, it takes a few seconds, then an error message is
> >>>>shown:
> >>>>
> >>>>Could not copy file "/tmp/php8DaiV2" to "/home/ws/ry149/.public_html/wiki/images/Cutplane_snapshot.png".'
> >>>>
> >>>>There aren't any files in images/tmp directory. So I guess that not even
> >>>>these uploads to the temp directory are
> >>>>done correct. Then Mediawiki cannot copy file from temp to destination
> >>>>directory (as in the message).
> >>>>But what makes the browkser not to be able to upload files?
> >>>>I am not an export in web-servers and so. I should do a "little wiki"
> >>>>for an programming project.
> >>>>Maybe I am looking for the wrong things... I thought it would be a good
> >>>>idea to look for the command that uploads
> >>>>the file (from local to temp directory).
> >>>>
> >>>>Martin
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Rob Church schrieb:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>>The actual uploading bit's done by the browser and the web server; the
> >>>>>PHP script calls functions which finds out where the file content has
> >>>>>gone and what the file's called at that precise moment, amongst other
> >>>>>things.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>I'm not sure what you're trying to achieve.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Rob Church
> >>>>>
> >>>>>On 23/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>>I did this things. But it doesn't help.
> >>>>>>As far as I can see the uploading process is done in file
> >>>>>>SpecialUpload.php in function
> >>>>>>processUpload(). At least the comments say so.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>But which line exactly copies the file from local drive to the temp
> >>>>>>directory?
> >>>>>>How is the function named? Is it a standard php function? Or a mediawiki
> >>>>>>function?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>This is really tricky to someone that has no experiences in php
> >>>>>>programming...
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Martin
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>Rob Church schrieb:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>PHP's safe mode breaks a number of things MediaWiki uses, uploads
> >>>>>>>being one of them. However, it is possible to work around the problem.
> >>>>>>>Disable hashed uploads, create the individual images subdirectories
> >>>>>>>and ensure those are writable, then enable uploads and see.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Be aware that safe mode configuration can and will cause other
> >>>>>>>problems in other areas, some of which don't have corresponding
> >>>>>>>workarounds.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>Rob Church
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>On 22/12/05, Martin Baumann <mailsgetlost at web.de> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Is it possible that save mode makes mediawiki absolutely not able to
> >>>>>>>>upload images?
> >>>>>>>>And as admin of the mediawiki I have no chance to change this fact?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>I tried anything I found in this mailing list and in the internet. But
> >>>>>>>>without success.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>ohhhh :-(
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Martin
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>Martin Baumann schrieb:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Hi,
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>is there a way to add images to the database without uploading them?
> >>>>>>>>>Because I have massive problems bypassing save mode I upload image files by hand.
> >>>>>>>>>But I cannot use [Image ...]. What can I do to use [Image ...] with these images?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>Thanks, Martin
> >>>>>>>>>______________________________________________________________
> >>>>>>>>>Verschicken Sie romantische, coole und witzige Bilder per SMS!
> >>>>>>>>>Jetzt bei WEB.DE FreeMail: http://f.web.de/?mc=021193
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From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Tue Dec 27 17:08:37 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:08:37 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Edittools page - how?
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512240725x56fcb844r@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e92136380512230750i745c5939w@mail.gmail.com>
	<BAY113-F16A9ECC759D76B3B935DD6B2320@phx.gbl>
	<e92136380512240725x56fcb844r@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512270908v286d1fb8j@mail.gmail.com>

On 24/12/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> The MediaWiki:Edittools message is present in MediaWiki 1.6-dev;
> previous versions don't have it. You can achieve a similar effect
> using MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning and MediaWiki:Copyrightwarning2,
> however, on release versions.

Also, I believe you'll need the <charinsert> extension, from
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/viewcvs.py/wikipedia/extensions/CharInsert/

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From rowan.collins at gmail.com  Tue Dec 27 17:11:04 2005
From: rowan.collins at gmail.com (Rowan Collins)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:11:04 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Export Wiki's to Static HTML
In-Reply-To: <BAY101-DAV116923A8234FD35A80AECAF7370@phx.gbl>
References: <20051227061024.0BCF91AC03F9@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<BAY101-DAV116923A8234FD35A80AECAF7370@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <9f02ca4c0512270911i53f63bb7u@mail.gmail.com>

On 27/12/05, Joshua Seagroves <joshua_seagroves at hotmail.com> wrote:
> All I am trying to do is export to static html, have the links
> inside update and keep the metadata.

See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Alternative_parsers - particularly
the "non-parser dumper" which uses MediaWiki itself to do the
rendering and exporting.

--
Rowan Collins BSc
[IMSoP]


From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Tue Dec 27 18:00:40 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 10:00:40 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: how to delete my wiki page? mistakes
In-Reply-To: <20051227155539.25D661158343@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051227155539.25D661158343@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <597AAB08-93F7-4A2B-8F50-4133143CD4F9@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: Sy Ali <sy1234 at gmail.com>
>
> ... apparently going into the database
> would indeed be required to purge history.. but such things are not
> for me...

I think anyone who is going to administer a MediaWiki site would  
benefit from learning something about MySQL.

If you're someone who does a lot of web stuff, that learning would  
not be limited to one application, either, as the PHP/MySQL combo is  
used on hundreds of free web applications.

There are also numerous GUI tools for administering a MySQL database,  
that span the range from free to thousands of dollars. My favorite  
(although it lacks a thing or two that cause me to run off to some  
other tool now and then) is phpMyAdmin, which is free.

As when learning anything, work on a backup. Record the manual steps  
you take to accomplish your goal. Then try to do them in a script.  
Then instead of ranting, submit your work for the benefit of all, and  
become a famous contributor, rather than an infamous ranter!


:::: At the root of our problem is America's addiction to cheap  
energy. It would be a sad commentary if our leaders found it easier  
to send Americans to fight in the desert than to impose gasoline and  
other energy taxes. -- James Gustave Speth, 1990
:::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesimths.com/Van>




From brion at pobox.com  Tue Dec 27 23:28:14 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 00:28:14 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] time zone for ~~~~
In-Reply-To: <20051227021042.DB1201AC03E0@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051227021042.DB1201AC03E0@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <43B1CE0E.4090401@pobox.com>

Mauro do Carmo wrote:
> I have set up $wgLocaltimezone and I get it right; when I save a page, it
> takes the time I've set up in $wgLocaltimezone.
> 
> However, when I assign a page with ~~~~, my signature always takes the CST
> (Central Standard Time); and unfortunately that doesn't work for me.
> 
> Does someone know where should I set up, in order to get the local PC time
> into my signatures?

Signatures use the system's configured timezone. On Unix/Linux you can generally
set this by changing the TZ environment variable in LocalSettings.php, for instance:

putenv("TZ=Europe/Berlin");

A sitewide default timezone is used here rather than the individual user's
preference or local version to keep things consistent. If you have a page full
of signatures, and they're all in different timezones, it's pretty hard to
mentally keep track of what was before what.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From mediawiki at xmcs.cjb.net  Mon Dec 26 20:21:57 2005
From: mediawiki at xmcs.cjb.net (mediawiki at xmcs.cjb.net)
Date: Mon, 26 Dec 2005 15:21:57 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: "user_groups" database corruption
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512221512h35022243h@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051220165356.A57BD195013A@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<200512221807.42612.mediawiki@x11.cjb.net>
	<e92136380512221512h35022243h@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200512261521.57476.mediawiki@xmcs.cjb.net>

Thanks, I managed to fix it by copying the entire database to a new database 
(not sure why it read it then and not before, but it is working and I'll make 
a backup).

Any case Rob, I hope the trolls don't keep you off Wikipedia forever.

-Brian

On Thursday 22 December 2005 6:12 pm, Rob Church wrote:
> Your "page" table is buggered. This will be a messier process than
> you'd hoped for.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 22/12/05, mediawiki at x11.cjb.net <mediawiki at x11.cjb.net> wrote:
> > Alright so this is my problem.  My site (sauwiki.com)  is down because
> > some of the tables cannot be read.  I've pretty much lost hope of getting
> > them back.
> >
> > I did figure out how to do a repair on all tables, but some of the tables
> > could not be found.
> >
> > Apparently the newer versions of mediawiki do not use the 'cur' table
> > anymore, but mine still has it because I've been upgrading for about two
> > years.
> >
> > I can see all my pages still in this database, how can I get them out,
> > and put them in a new installation of mediawiki?
> >
> > -Brian
> >
> > (this is the list of tables I have, and their problems)
> >
> > krohnefa_wikidb.archive         repair          status          OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.blobs   repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.brokenlinks     repair  status  O
> > krohnefa_wikidb.categorylinks   repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.cur     repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.hitcounter      repair  error   The handler for the table
> > doesn't support repair
> > krohnefa_wikidb.image   repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.imagelinks      repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.interwiki       repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.ipblocks        repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.links   repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.linkscc         repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.logging         repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.math    repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.objectcache     repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.oldimage        repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.page    repair  error   Can't find file: 'page.MYI'
> > (errno: 2) krohnefa_wikidb.pagelinks       repair  error   Can't find
> > file: 'pagelinks.MYI' (errno: 2)
> > krohnefa_wikidb.querycache      repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.recentchanges   repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.revision        repair  error   Can't find file:
> > 'revision.MYI' (errno: 2)
> > krohnefa_wikidb.searchindex     repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.site_stats      repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.text    repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.trackbacks      repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.transcache      repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.user    repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.user_groups     repair  error   Can't find file:
> > 'user_groups.MYI' (errno: 2)
> > krohnefa_wikidb.user_newtalk    repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.user_rights     repair  status  OK
> > krohnefa_wikidb.validate        repair  error   Can't find file:
> > 'validate.MYI' (errno: 2)
> > krohnefa_wikidb.watchlist       repair  status  OK
> >
> > On Wednesday 21 December 2005 1:47 pm, mediawiki at x11.cjb.net wrote:
> > > I'm not sure I will be able to fix the databases on iPowerWeb, I am now
> > > trying things on my on Linux box.
> > >
> > > I was able to export the database into a really long sql statement, but
> > > it appeared to inly get the first five tables, among them 'cur' and
> > > 'archive'.
> > >
> > > I see that the latest version of mediawiki (1.5.2) uses 'text' instead
> > > of 'cur', so it won't restore.  For some reason I am having trouble
> > > installing older versions.
> > >
> > > If I open the sql file in a text editor (its about 1 meg), I can see
> > > that all the content from my wiki is still there. So I ask, what is the
> > > best way to attempt restoring it?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Brian
> > >
> > > On Tuesday 20 December 2005 12:56 pm, Jan Steinman wrote:
> > > > > From: mediawiki at x11.cjb.net
> > > > >
> > > > > A database error has occurred
> > > > > Query: SELECT ug_group FROM `user_groups` WHERE ug_user = '1'
> > > > > Function: User::loadFromDatabase
> > > > > Error: 1017 Can't find file: 'user_groups.MYI' (errno: 2)
> > > > > (localhost)
> > > >
> > > > It would appear that the index file for the user_groups table has
> > > > been deleted or has wrong permissions.
> > > >
> > > > > I tried to run check tables on it, but it didn't seem to have any
> > > > > effect.
> > > >
> > > > If you run myisamchk from a shell prompt, it should tell you it can't
> > > > access the table.
> > > >
> > > > > I found this person... suggestion was to ask the host about fixing
> > > > > the database, but when I contacted iPowerweb they told me their
> > > > > databases were working fine, and that they didn't support third
> > > > > party software.
> > > >
> > > > Tell them you're not using third-party software; tell them you have a
> > > > database table called "user_groups" that has a problem. Don't mention
> > > > MediaWiki at all -- it's an MySQL problem!
> > > >
> > > > If you're lucky, they can fix that file's permissions. If you're
> > > > slightly less lucky, they may restore it from a recent backup. There
> > > > may be a way of re-creating it if the corresponding .MYD and .FRM
> > > > files are intact.
> > > >
> > > > If the file is simply gone, consider some other service provider!
> > > >
> > > > :::: There was a time when religion ruled the world. It is known as
> > > >
> > > > The Dark Ages. -- Ruth Hurmence Green
> > > >
> > > > :::: Jan Steinman <http://www.Bytesmiths.com/Van>
> > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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From mauro at carmo.ws  Wed Dec 28 01:02:25 2005
From: mauro at carmo.ws (Mauro do Carmo)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:02:25 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] time zone for ~~~~
In-Reply-To: <43B1CE0E.4090401@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <20051228010229.E8B541AC03DF@mail.wikimedia.org>

Thanks Brion,

Would you know where I find TZ for whatsoever place/state I need? For
instance, instead of Berlin, let's say I need a sitewide default timezone TZ
for California/USA, or S?o Paulo/BR.

I don't think I could go ahead and make up some thing like:
putenv("TZ=USA/California"); Or putenv("TZ=Brazil/S?o Paulo"). Couldn't I?:)

Thanks a lot, mauro.

-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org] On Behalf Of Brion Vibber
Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2005 3:28 PM
To: MediaWiki announcements and site admin list
Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] time zone for ~~~~

Mauro do Carmo wrote:
> I have set up $wgLocaltimezone and I get it right; when I save a page, it
> takes the time I've set up in $wgLocaltimezone.
> 
> However, when I assign a page with ~~~~, my signature always takes the CST
> (Central Standard Time); and unfortunately that doesn't work for me.
> 
> Does someone know where should I set up, in order to get the local PC time
> into my signatures?

Signatures use the system's configured timezone. On Unix/Linux you can
generally
set this by changing the TZ environment variable in LocalSettings.php, for
instance:

putenv("TZ=Europe/Berlin");

A sitewide default timezone is used here rather than the individual user's
preference or local version to keep things consistent. If you have a page
full
of signatures, and they're all in different timezones, it's pretty hard to
mentally keep track of what was before what.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From pvarma at inventures.com  Wed Dec 28 01:54:37 2005
From: pvarma at inventures.com (Piyush Varma)
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2005 17:54:37 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] How to add / edit drop down menus in Clean Skin
Message-ID: <AE8AB5873C8118458AF059ED48D8FE6E05333B24@iv001dc.lan.inventures.com>

Hi,
 
I want to add and update menu options in Clean.php skin. The skin was downloaded from http://wiki.kevcom.com/wiki/Clean_Skin.
 
I found follo: lines of code which I believe creates the menu options:
 
 // Navigation links
 
 foreach ($this->data['nav_urls'] as $key => $item) {
  $href = htmlspecialchars($item['href']);
  $text = strtolower(htmlspecialchars(
   $this->translator->translate($key)));
  if ($key == "upload" && $isEnglish)
   $text = "upload files";
  $link = "<a href='$href'>$text</a>";
  if ($key == "help")
   $helpLink = $link;
  if ($key == "recentchanges")
   $recentLink = $link;
  if ($key == "upload")
   $uploadLink = $link;
  if ($key == "specialpages")
   $specialLink = $link;
  if ($key == "recentchangeslinked")
   $relatedLink = $link;
 }
 
I also found that function showMenu(menuID, parentID, alignment) is called with options.
 
My skin drop down options are different. Hence how do I find the definition of $this->data['nav_urls']. Where do I learn more on $this->data please?
 
Thank you,
 
Piyush
 


From jason.mcpeak at gmail.com  Wed Dec 28 07:24:01 2005
From: jason.mcpeak at gmail.com (Jason McPeak)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 01:24:01 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Installation Problems
Message-ID: <000001c60b7f$adb76fb0$6601a8c0@opentext.net>

MediaWiki 1.5.4 installation
Please include all of the lines below when reporting installation problems.
Checking environment...
    * WARNING: PHP 4.3.2 or higher is recommended. Older versions from 4.1.x
up may work but are not actively supported. PHP 4.1.2: ok
    * Warning: PHP's register_globals option is enabled. MediaWiki will work
correctly, but this setting increases your exposure to potential security
vulnerabilities in PHP-based software running on your server. You should
disable it if you are able.
    * PHP server API is apache; ok, using pretty URLs (index.php/Page_Title)
    * Have XML / Latin1-UTF-8 conversion support.
    * PHP's memory_limit is 16M. If this is too low, installation may fail!
Attempting to raise limit to 20M... ok.
    * Have zlib support; enabling output compression.
    * Neither Turck MMCache nor eAccelerator are installed, can't use object
caching functions
    * Found GNU diff3: /usr/bin/diff3.
    * Found GD graphics library built-in, image thumbnailing will be enabled
if you enable uploads.
    * Installation directory: /home/m/c/mcpeakfamily.org/html/wiki
    * Script URI path: /wiki
      Run me from the command line please.


Looking at the few places it spits out "Run me from the command line
please." it is checking the connection to make sure it is command line.

Ideas???



From brion at pobox.com  Wed Dec 28 09:52:14 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:52:14 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] time zone for ~~~~
In-Reply-To: <20051228010229.E8B541AC03DF@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051228010229.E8B541AC03DF@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <43B2604E.9030204@pobox.com>

Mauro do Carmo wrote:
> Would you know where I find TZ for whatsoever place/state I need? For
> instance, instead of Berlin, let's say I need a sitewide default timezone TZ
> for California/USA, or S?o Paulo/BR.
> 
> I don't think I could go ahead and make up some thing like:
> putenv("TZ=USA/California"); Or putenv("TZ=Brazil/S?o Paulo"). Couldn't I?:)

Time zone info is usually in someplace like /usr/share/zoneinfo.

On the machine I'm on at the moment (Mac OS X) there are America/Los_Angeles and
America/Sao_Paulo settings available; I'm not 100% sure how standard the naming
is across *nixes.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From christophermcintosh at mchsi.com  Wed Dec 28 08:40:00 2005
From: christophermcintosh at mchsi.com (Christopher McIntosh)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 02:40:00 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Special:Statistics giving odd result
Message-ID: <43B24F60.5080802@mchsi.com>




I have installed MediaWiki 1.5.4, using MySQL 5, PHP 5, on Windows XP.

It works beautifully!

However, when I request Special:Statistics, I get a huge number 
(18,446,744,073,709,551,614) in the output.

I.e., the page reads:

<snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip>

MacHershellWiki statistics

There are 1,298 total pages in the database. This includes "talk" pages, 
pages about MacHershellWiki, minimal "stub" pages, redirects, and others 
that probably don't qualify as content pages. Excluding those, there are 
18,446,744,073,709,551,614 pages that are probably legitimate content pages.

There have been a total of 423 page views, and 161 page edits since the 
wiki was setup. That comes to 0.12 average edits per page, and 2.63 
views per edit.
User statistics

There are 3 registered users, of which 2 (or 66.67%) are administrators 
(see Project:Administrators).

<snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip><snip>

I've done quite a bit of searching, but haven't found any references to 
this odd behavior...

Could someone please help me understand this?

Chris




From brion at pobox.com  Wed Dec 28 10:27:59 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 11:27:59 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Special:Statistics giving odd result
In-Reply-To: <43B24F60.5080802@mchsi.com>
References: <43B24F60.5080802@mchsi.com>
Message-ID: <43B268AF.5050605@pobox.com>

Christopher McIntosh wrote:
> There are 1,298 total pages in the database. This includes "talk" pages,
> pages about MacHershellWiki, minimal "stub" pages, redirects, and others
> that probably don't qualify as content pages. Excluding those, there are
> 18,446,744,073,709,551,614 pages that are probably legitimate content
> pages.

Probably the counter wrapped backwards by mistake. You can manually reset the
count like this in MySQL:
update site_stats set ss_good_articles=NNN;

An approximation to the count might be:

select count(*) from page where page_namespace=0 and page_is_redirect and
page_len > 0;

(not exact; it should check the text field for presence of a '[' char)

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Wed Dec 28 15:45:50 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 07:45:50 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: How to add / edit drop down menus in Clean Skin
In-Reply-To: <20051228072427.1DF9211584DC@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051228072427.1DF9211584DC@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <187F65E3-3A4C-4928-BBC5-F863A4A7BFC1@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: "Piyush Varma" <pvarma at inventures.com>
>
> I want to add and update menu options in Clean.php skin. The skin  
> was downloaded from http://wiki.kevcom.com/wiki/Clean_Skin.

Boy, that skin is really CLEAN! (When I try it, I get a blank page.)

Have you tried contacting the author directly? His website has  
contact info.


:::: The white man seeks to conquer nature, to bend it to his will  
and to use it wastefully until it?s all gone and then he simply moves  
on, leaving the waste behind him and looking for new places to take.  
The whole white race is a monster who is always hungry and what he  
eats is land. ? Chiksika, elder brother of Tecumseh, March 19, 1779
:::: Jan Steinman, http://www.Bytesmiths.com



From jeremy at iz.org  Wed Dec 28 17:05:39 2005
From: jeremy at iz.org (Jeremy G Byrne)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 01:05:39 +0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Help: where do I hack to change link output?
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.0.20051229005909.0405d020@facks.org>

Hi All--

[I posted this in a different form last week, but didn't get a
definitive reply.]

I'm trying to work out what or where I need to hack the php
code to alter the way "broken local links" (ie. references to
pages which aren't in the wiki, which are normally transformed
into "&action=edit" style links) are displayed.

I have looked in the obvious places--Linker.php and Skin.php--but
I can't seem to locate the relevant function, and more general
research has turned up nothing.

Can anyone shed some light, please?

CYa,
JEREMY



From brion at pobox.com  Wed Dec 28 17:16:34 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 18:16:34 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Help: where do I hack to change link output?
In-Reply-To: <7.0.0.16.0.20051229005909.0405d020@facks.org>
References: <7.0.0.16.0.20051229005909.0405d020@facks.org>
Message-ID: <43B2C872.9010506@pobox.com>

Jeremy G Byrne wrote:
> I'm trying to work out what or where I need to hack the php
> code to alter the way "broken local links" (ie. references to
> pages which aren't in the wiki, which are normally transformed
> into "&action=edit" style links) are displayed.

If you want to alter how they're _displayed_ you should look at the CSS for each
skin, in skins/*. They're the a.new class, iirc.

If you want to change the HTML markup that's produced, poke at
Linker::makeBrokenLinkObj().

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From andrea at arena.cd  Wed Dec 28 03:29:29 2005
From: andrea at arena.cd (Arena Andrea)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 04:29:29 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Wie gleichzeitig mehrere Wikis betreiben
Message-ID: <9DF9ADDD-DD58-4FB4-863E-F0E39EDAB0E2@arena.cd>

Zu beginn, ich komm mit diesem Mailsystem nicht klar.

Unter http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.org.wikimedia.mediawiki/9142
habe ich mein Problem geschildert. Welche Emailadresse muss ich  
brauchen um meine Probleme mit meiner eigenen Wiki zu l?sen?
Und was genau muss im Betreff stehen, um einen saubere Hierarchie zu  
behalten?




ok, habe ?ber die Tage etwas daran gearbeitet.

Mein erstes Anliegen:
Im Moment habe ich 4 versch. wikis.
Alle sind so konfiguriert:

$wgSharedUploadPath = 'http://www.xx.ch/common/wiki/images';
# Path on the file system where shared uploads can be found
$wgSharedUploadDirectory = '/home/xx/public_html/common/wiki/images';
# Set this to false especially if you have a set of files that need  
to be
# accessible by all wikis, and you do not want to use the hash (path/ 
a/aa/)
# directory layout.
$wgHashedSharedUploadDirectory = true;
$wgSharedUploadDBname = 'xxx_wikiartikel';


$wgUploadPath       = "http://www.xx.ch/common/wiki/images";
$wgUploadDirectory  = "/home/xxx/public_html/common/wiki/images";

so weit so gut. Alle Bilder sind in einem Ordner.
Durch das verschieben der Bilder, passiert es vereinzelt, dass bei  
einer Artikelseite, die Bilder mit einem ? markiert sind,bearbeitet man
den Artikel und Speichert ihn neu ab, werden die Bilder wieder  
angezeigt.
Gibt es ein script der solche ?nderungen automatisch vornehmen kann?

Zur eigentlichen Frage.
Wie kann ich jetzt die Bilder untereinander gebrauchen?
Habe das Bild  [[Bild:Glas.gif]] durch die Deutsche Wiki hochgeladen,  
wie verwende ich es in der Italienischen wiki?

hoffentlich hattet Ihr auch so sch?ne Weihnachten wie ich ;-D

andy


From christophermcintosh at mchsi.com  Wed Dec 28 17:31:11 2005
From: christophermcintosh at mchsi.com (Christopher McIntosh)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 11:31:11 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: Special:Statistics giving odd result
In-Reply-To: <43B268AF.5050605@pobox.com>
References: <43B24F60.5080802@mchsi.com> <43B268AF.5050605@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <doui51$vho$1@sea.gmane.org>

Brion:

Thank you for your help.  This is very interesting...

I performed the update as you pointed out.  Now, when I visit the site 
as an anonymous user, the count is fine.  However, if I visit as an 
authenticated user, I get the old, erroneous number 
(18,446,744,073,709,551,614).  I switch browsers (using IE and Mozilla), 
clear their caches, and observe the same result...

Does MediaWiki actually pull from 2 different places for authenticated 
vs. anonymous user?

This seems counter-intuitive...

Chris


Brion Vibber wrote:
> Christopher McIntosh wrote:
> 
>>There are 1,298 total pages in the database. This includes "talk" pages,
>>pages about MacHershellWiki, minimal "stub" pages, redirects, and others
>>that probably don't qualify as content pages. Excluding those, there are
>>18,446,744,073,709,551,614 pages that are probably legitimate content
>>pages.
> 
> 
> Probably the counter wrapped backwards by mistake. You can manually reset the
> count like this in MySQL:
> update site_stats set ss_good_articles=NNN;
> 
> An approximation to the count might be:
> 
> select count(*) from page where page_namespace=0 and page_is_redirect and
> page_len > 0;
> 
> (not exact; it should check the text field for presence of a '[' char)
> 
> -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
> 
> 
> 
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
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From pvarma at inventures.com  Wed Dec 28 18:28:51 2005
From: pvarma at inventures.com (Piyush Varma)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 10:28:51 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] A PHP question for a newbie
Message-ID: <AE8AB5873C8118458AF059ED48D8FE6E053351F7@iv001dc.lan.inventures.com>

Hi,
 
I need interpretation the following lines of code:
 
foreach ($this->data['nav_urls'] as $key => $item) {
  $href = htmlspecialchars($item['href']);
  $text = strtolower(htmlspecialchars(
   $this->translator->translate($key)));
  if ($key == "upload" && $isEnglish)
   $text = "upload files";
  $link = "<a href='$href'>$text</a>";
  if ($key == "help")
   $helpLink = $link;
  if ($key == "recentchanges")
   $recentLink = $link;
  if ($key == "upload")
   $uploadLink = $link;
  if ($key == "specialpages")
   $specialLink = $link;
  if ($key == "recentchangeslinked")
   $relatedLink = $link;
 }
 
Especially, what do I understand by "$this->data['nav_urls'] as $key => $item" line of code?
 
Thank you,
 
Piyush
 


From mediawiki at fulda-vogelsberg.de  Wed Dec 28 19:20:09 2005
From: mediawiki at fulda-vogelsberg.de (mediawiki at fulda-vogelsberg.de)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 20:20:09 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Pfadprobleme/ problems with path
Message-ID: <23966978.277501135797609019.JavaMail.servlet@kundenserver>

Hallo Liste,
bin auch Anf?nger und konnte bislang niemand hier weiterhelfen, aber 
jetzt brauche ich Hilfe:
insgesamt habe ich 3 wikis laufen. Eines bei 1und1 das l?uft derzeit 
ohne Problem. Zwei weitere habe ich bei silverlineserver. Die liefen 
bislang auch, bis letzte Woche, pl?tzlich ging nichts mehr, obwohl ich 
nichts ver?ndert habe.

Wenn ich jetzt wie ?blich  meine URL aufrufe, kommt
die Fehlermeldung:
"Umleitungslimit f?r diese URL ist ?berschritten. Die angeforderte Seite 
kann nicht geladen werden. Das kann von geblockten Cockies herr?hren"

Eine Unterseite kann ich erreichen, wenn ich den urspr?nglichen Link 
eingebe, von dort aus wird aber wieder falsch verlinkt
statt
wiki/index.php?title=Spezial:Specialpages

versucht der browser folgenem Pfad zu folgen und findet nat?rlich nix, 
weil es den Ordner Index.php gibt es nicht:
wiki/index.php/Spezial:Specialpages

Habt ihr ne Ahnung an was das liegen kann?

Ein PHP update? Ordner wurden verschoben oder wei? der geier. Der 
Provider antwortet leider nicht auf meine Fragen :-(
Kann mir jemand weiterhelfen?
Es gr??t Euch
Karin


Hello,
is there anybody, who is able to help me with my  wikiproblem?
My wiki worked ok. But suddenly I could not reach the URL. I found out 
that I can fetch a page if I change the link from the shown way:
wiki/index.php/Spezial:Specialpages

to
wiki/index.php?title=Spezial:Specialpages

But all links on this page are wrong again. I changed nothing. How can I 
fix this problem, I think my provider changed anything.

I would be happy  if annybody got an idea
Karin from Germany


From pvarma at inventures.com  Wed Dec 28 19:22:16 2005
From: pvarma at inventures.com (Piyush Varma)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 11:22:16 -0800
Subject: [SPAM] - [Mediawiki-l] A PHP question for a newbie - Email found
	in subject
Message-ID: <AE8AB5873C8118458AF059ED48D8FE6E05333B25@iv001dc.lan.inventures.com>

Hi,

I found the meaning of foreach ($this->data['nav_urls'] as $key => $item). Does it iterate the data array? Where is this data array defined in clean.php or MediaWiki code please?

Thank you,
 
Piyush


-----Original Message-----
From: mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org
[mailto:mediawiki-l-bounces at Wikimedia.org]On Behalf Of Piyush Varma
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2005 10:29 AM
To: mediawiki-l at Wikimedia.org
Subject: [SPAM] - [Mediawiki-l] A PHP question for a newbie - Email
found in subject


Hi,
 
I need interpretation the following lines of code:
 
foreach ($this->data['nav_urls'] as $key => $item) {
  $href = htmlspecialchars($item['href']);
  $text = strtolower(htmlspecialchars(
   $this->translator->translate($key)));
  if ($key == "upload" && $isEnglish)
   $text = "upload files";
  $link = "<a href='$href'>$text</a>";
  if ($key == "help")
   $helpLink = $link;
  if ($key == "recentchanges")
   $recentLink = $link;
  if ($key == "upload")
   $uploadLink = $link;
  if ($key == "specialpages")
   $specialLink = $link;
  if ($key == "recentchangeslinked")
   $relatedLink = $link;
 }
 
Especially, what do I understand by "$this->data['nav_urls'] as $key => $item" line of code?
 
Thank you,
 
Piyush
 
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From lianluoyuan at gmail.com  Wed Dec 28 22:36:44 2005
From: lianluoyuan at gmail.com (LianLuoYuan)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:36:44 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] why the wiki is not searchable by googles?
Message-ID: <2d1f3f560512281436w3de1ea55q@mail.gmail.com>

hi, All,

I have a site: dongfangtiger.de/wiki (chinese language, UTF-8), but almost
no search engine can search into this wiki, i.e:
if search "dongfangtiger.de/wiki" as keyword in google, only some external
webpages containing the word "dongfangtiger.de/wiki" can be found.

what shall I do to get it searchable?

thanks a lot!
lianluoyuan


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec 29 00:28:53 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 00:28:53 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Pfadprobleme/ problems with path
In-Reply-To: <23966978.277501135797609019.JavaMail.servlet@kundenserver>
References: <23966978.277501135797609019.JavaMail.servlet@kundenserver>
Message-ID: <e92136380512281628o578044eep@mail.gmail.com>

Chances are, you're running PHP as a CGI binary. Set the following in
LocalSettings.php:

$wgArticlePath = "$wgScript?title=$1";

This is, by default, commented out somewhere in there.


Rob Church

On 28/12/05, mediawiki at fulda-vogelsberg.de
<mediawiki at fulda-vogelsberg.de> wrote:
> Hallo Liste,
> bin auch Anf?nger und konnte bislang niemand hier weiterhelfen, aber
> jetzt brauche ich Hilfe:
> insgesamt habe ich 3 wikis laufen. Eines bei 1und1 das l?uft derzeit
> ohne Problem. Zwei weitere habe ich bei silverlineserver. Die liefen
> bislang auch, bis letzte Woche, pl?tzlich ging nichts mehr, obwohl ich
> nichts ver?ndert habe.
>
> Wenn ich jetzt wie ?blich  meine URL aufrufe, kommt
> die Fehlermeldung:
> "Umleitungslimit f?r diese URL ist ?berschritten. Die angeforderte Seite
> kann nicht geladen werden. Das kann von geblockten Cockies herr?hren"
>
> Eine Unterseite kann ich erreichen, wenn ich den urspr?nglichen Link
> eingebe, von dort aus wird aber wieder falsch verlinkt
> statt
> wiki/index.php?title=Spezial:Specialpages
>
> versucht der browser folgenem Pfad zu folgen und findet nat?rlich nix,
> weil es den Ordner Index.php gibt es nicht:
> wiki/index.php/Spezial:Specialpages
>
> Habt ihr ne Ahnung an was das liegen kann?
>
> Ein PHP update? Ordner wurden verschoben oder wei? der geier. Der
> Provider antwortet leider nicht auf meine Fragen :-(
> Kann mir jemand weiterhelfen?
> Es gr??t Euch
> Karin
>
>
> Hello,
> is there anybody, who is able to help me with my  wikiproblem?
> My wiki worked ok. But suddenly I could not reach the URL. I found out
> that I can fetch a page if I change the link from the shown way:
> wiki/index.php/Spezial:Specialpages
>
> to
> wiki/index.php?title=Spezial:Specialpages
>
> But all links on this page are wrong again. I changed nothing. How can I
> fix this problem, I think my provider changed anything.
>
> I would be happy  if annybody got an idea
> Karin from Germany
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From puzzlet at gmail.com  Thu Dec 29 04:46:57 2005
From: puzzlet at gmail.com (Puzzlet Chung)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 13:46:57 +0900
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Multilingual boilderplates, and more
Message-ID: <b172ea670512282046o1c278f80o39cba2aea2edd413@mail.gmail.com>

There is a proposal for multilingual license boilderplates in
Wikimedia Commons, which makes me come up with an idea:

http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Village_pump#Multi-Language_version_is_needed...

MediaWiki interfaces are available in many languages, which is set to
the local language of a project by default, and can be chosen in
Special:Preferences as well. Then why not make multilingual
boilderplates available, beside some other things?

This could work in this way: Make a new namespace, say Multilingua,
which would carry multilingual messages. License boilderplates should
include the multilingual messages with {{Multilingua:PD-msg}}.
Multilingua:PD-msg has the default canonical message, probably in
English, with translated messages in Multilingua:PD-msg/en,
Multilingua:PD-msg/ko, etc.

And the parser would show the message in the appropriate language the
user had set or the default. If the message in the language is not
available, it should show the default. For Commons feature, caching
process should be changed to cache by different languages.

Regards,

Puzzlet Chung


From ajs at ajs.com  Thu Dec 29 04:50:04 2005
From: ajs at ajs.com (Aaron Sherman)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 23:50:04 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] why the wiki is not searchable by googles?
In-Reply-To: <2d1f3f560512281436w3de1ea55q@mail.gmail.com>
References: <2d1f3f560512281436w3de1ea55q@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1135831804.7303.11.camel@markab>

On Wed, 2005-12-28 at 23:36 +0100, LianLuoYuan wrote:

> I have a site: dongfangtiger.de/wiki (chinese language, UTF-8), but almost
> no search engine can search into this wiki, i.e:
> if search "dongfangtiger.de/wiki" as keyword in google, only some external
> webpages containing the word "dongfangtiger.de/wiki" can be found.
> 
> what shall I do to get it searchable?

See:

http://www.google.com/support/bin/topic.py?topic=356

and some additional info at:

http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Using_a_very_short_URL




From jeremy at iz.org  Thu Dec 29 10:37:46 2005
From: jeremy at iz.org (Jeremy G Byrne)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:37:46 +0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Help: where do I hack to change link output?
In-Reply-To: <20051228192025.6AF691158529@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051228192025.6AF691158529@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <7.0.0.16.0.20051229183428.04015030@facks.org>

At 18:16:34 +0100 28/12/2005, Brion V. wrote:
>Jeremy G Byrne wrote:
> > I'm trying to work out what or where I need to hack the php
> > code to alter the way "broken local links" (ie. references to
> > pages which aren't in the wiki, which are normally transformed
> > into "&action=edit" style links) are displayed.
>
>If you want to alter how they're _displayed_ you should look at
>the CSS for each skin, in skins/*. They're the a.new class, iirc.

Sorry; imprecise wording.

>If you want to change the HTML markup that's produced, poke at
>Linker::makeBrokenLinkObj().

I had, but thanks to your prompting I've gone back to it and
persisted, and once I realised I needed to reload the pages with
&action=purge to see the effects of my hacking, it was pretty easy.
Many thanks!

CYa,
JEREMY



From mediawiki at fulda-vogelsberg.de  Thu Dec 29 10:40:07 2005
From: mediawiki at fulda-vogelsberg.de (mediawiki at fulda-vogelsberg.de)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 11:40:07 +0100
Subject: AW: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Pfadprobleme/ problems with path
Message-ID: <13216186.445851135852807307.JavaMail.servlet@kundenserver>

Great, it works!!
Thank you very much, Rob
Karin


>Chances are, you're running PHP as a CGI binary. Set the following in
>LocalSettings.php:
>
>$wgArticlePath = "$wgScript?title=$1";
>
>This is, by default, commented out somewhere in there.
>
>
>Rob Church
>
>On 28/12/05, mediawiki at fulda-vogelsberg.de
><mediawiki at fulda-vogelsberg.de> wrote:
>> Hallo Liste,
>> bin auch Anf?nger und konnte bislang niemand hier weiterhelfen, aber
>> jetzt brauche ich Hilfe:
>> insgesamt habe ich 3 wikis laufen. Eines bei 1und1 das l?uft derzeit
>> ohne Problem. Zwei weitere habe ich bei silverlineserver. Die liefen
>> bislang auch, bis letzte Woche, pl?tzlich ging nichts mehr, obwohl ich
>> nichts ver?ndert habe.
>>
>> Wenn ich jetzt wie ?blich  meine URL aufrufe, kommt
>> die Fehlermeldung:
>> "Umleitungslimit f?r diese URL ist ?berschritten. Die angeforderte Seite
>> kann nicht geladen werden. Das kann von geblockten Cockies herr?hren"
>>
>> Eine Unterseite kann ich erreichen, wenn ich den urspr?nglichen Link
>> eingebe, von dort aus wird aber wieder falsch verlinkt
>> statt
>> wiki/index.php?title=Spezial:Specialpages
>>
>> versucht der browser folgenem Pfad zu folgen und findet nat?rlich nix,
>> weil es den Ordner Index.php gibt es nicht:
>> wiki/index.php/Spezial:Specialpages
>>
>> Habt ihr ne Ahnung an was das liegen kann?
>>
>> Ein PHP update? Ordner wurden verschoben oder wei? der geier. Der
>> Provider antwortet leider nicht auf meine Fragen :-(
>> Kann mir jemand weiterhelfen?
>> Es gr??t Euch
>> Karin
>>
>>
>> Hello,
>> is there anybody, who is able to help me with my  wikiproblem?
>> My wiki worked ok. But suddenly I could not reach the URL. I found out
>> that I can fetch a page if I change the link from the shown way:
>> wiki/index.php/Spezial:Specialpages
>>
>> to
>> wiki/index.php?title=Spezial:Specialpages
>>
>> But all links on this page are wrong again. I changed nothing. How can I
>> fix this problem, I think my provider changed anything.
>>
>> I would be happy  if annybody got an idea
>> Karin from Germany
>> _______________________________________________
>> MediaWiki-l mailing list
>> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>
>_______________________________________________
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>MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l


From gangleri at wikimagic.com  Thu Dec 29 11:04:28 2005
From: gangleri at wikimagic.com (gangleri)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 12:04:28 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] who would create at MediaZilla a / some tracking bugs
	as custom namespaces at Wikimedia Foundation (tracking)
Message-ID: <032901c60c67$a7bca240$561cfea9@gangleri>

Hallo!

There should be one or more tracking bugs as
custom namespaces at Wikimedia Foundation (tracking)
for cookbook, author, portal, etc. namespaces
As far as I can remember commons: has custum namespaces too.

The "product", "component" etc. fields should be unified and the summaries 
should help searching these bugs.

Examples:
general reports
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3736
FIXED == Bug 3736: New namespaces for Wikiportals and WikiProjects
Wikimedia web sites > General/Unknown

http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1676
WORKSFORME == Bug 1676: Request: New namespace for Portal
Wikimedia web sites > General/Unknown

individual reports (somtimes mixed with additional requests)
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2418
FIXED == Bug 2418: Request update portal BE and NL
Wikimedia web sites > General/Unknown
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3385
FIXED == Bug 3385: Namespace for wikiportals at WP:PT
Wikimedia web sites > General/Unknown
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3818
*NEW* Bug 3818: portal namespaces in the hebrew wikipedia
Wikimedia web sites > General/Unknown
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4113
FIXED == Bug 4113: Portal: namespace on hr.wikipedia.org
Wikimedia web sites > General/Unknown
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4135
FIXED == Bug 4135: Portal namespaces in the Esperanto Wikipedia
Wikimedia web sites > *Language setup*
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4143
NEW == Bug 4143: Add portal namespace to Catalan Wikipedia (CA) and set 
project namespace
Wikimedia web sites > General/Unknown
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4247
FIXED == Bug 4247: Request for 2 new namespaces
(about WP:IT:)
Wikimedia web sites > General/Unknown
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4297
FIXED == Bug 4297: Portal namespace for sk.wikipedia
Wikimedia web sites > *Language setup*
http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=4369
*NEW* == Bug 4369: Add Portal namespace to Dutch Wikipedia
Wikimedia web sites > General/Unknown

best regards reinhardt [[user:gangleri]]
irc://irc.freenode.net/mediawiki
irc://irc.freenode.net/wiktionary
ICQ: 317732084 



From sy1234 at gmail.com  Thu Dec 29 12:27:27 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 07:27:27 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: how to delete my wiki page? mistakes
In-Reply-To: <597AAB08-93F7-4A2B-8F50-4133143CD4F9@Bytesmiths.com>
References: <20051227155539.25D661158343@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<597AAB08-93F7-4A2B-8F50-4133143CD4F9@Bytesmiths.com>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512290427t72fc151fwc00e235893f7f37c@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/27/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
> > From: Sy Ali <sy1234 at gmail.com>
> >
> > ... apparently going into the database
> > would indeed be required to purge history.. but such things are not
> > for me...
>
> I think anyone who is going to administer a MediaWiki site would
> benefit from learning something about MySQL.
>
> If you're someone who does a lot of web stuff, that learning would
> not be limited to one application, either, as the PHP/MySQL combo is
> used on hundreds of free web applications.
>
> There are also numerous GUI tools for administering a MySQL database,
> that span the range from free to thousands of dollars. My favorite
> (although it lacks a thing or two that cause me to run off to some
> other tool now and then) is phpMyAdmin, which is free.
>
> As when learning anything, work on a backup. Record the manual steps
> you take to accomplish your goal. Then try to do them in a script.
> Then instead of ranting, submit your work for the benefit of all, and
> become a famous contributor, rather than an infamous ranter!

You might want to involve me in a reply to me.. I might have skipped
over this post.

Firstly, there are big fat disclaimers with making manual changes to
the mediawiki database.  That alone says NO to fiddling around. 
That's a real showstopper to most people and especially myself.

Then I could go on about how mysql isn't a real database and not a
real skill I want to pick up anyways.  I'd rather not even work with
phpmyadmin or any other tool.. especially for functionality which
ought to exist in the host software.  I could also go on about how php
is a letdown and not something I want to get involved with (too much
exposure to php5).

Having made those vague suggestions, I'd rather just say that I intend
to stay a regular everyday user, which means ranting when I feel that
developers leave gaping omissions in philosophy and functionality. 
MediaWiki is built for the Wikipedia.. something which wasn't and
still isn't stressed enough.  This means that its needs and focuses
aren't real-world.  Which sucks and I'm unfortunately stuck with it.

Even if I were to get into it myself, which would invariably involve
hiring a team to do it for me, tinkering with a project's database
from the outside not only requires backups, it's not something which
can be done lightly on a live installation of thousands of documents. 
It's not a matter of backing it up before trying it out, it would then
require a massive backup history.  Tinkering with one thing leads to
fun issues way down the road.. and having had data magically poof away
from flakey database issues (thanks mysql!) there's no way I'd want
random hacking in my database.

So the only real solution to any of this is supporting a close fork of
mediawiki with a team that has very in-depth knowledge of that
project.  The fork would then support the real-world functionality
that I keep ranting about.

This fork reaching stability would let me use the functionality I
need.  Randomly hacking around without proper knowledge isn't a good
idea when a good decade of writing is on the line.

Or I could do some scripting, back my database up, unleash the script
to remove history older than a certain date, and then manually go
through a few thousand documents to see if there was any damage.  I've
done that before, it sucks.  I'd rather look for supported
functionality for stuff like that this time around.


The only real inbetween is to read the "it works for me" experiences
of others when they are poking around their database the manual way. 
I'm not going to blaze any trails anymore..

For example.. I have an "it works for me" on removing the row for a
particular user login.  Developers here gave a "the sky will fall!"
response to someone else's question about it.. so I'm still a bit
inbetween (that was probably mw 1.3 though).


In conclusion.. I don't like learning new tricks.  =)


From slc at publicus.net  Thu Dec 29 15:20:04 2005
From: slc at publicus.net (Steven Clift)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:20:04 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Help with upgrade - small honorarium available
Message-ID: <037401c60c8b$58cc2880$6400a8c0@PUBLICUS2>


E-Democracy.Org needs help upgrading MediaWiki from 1.4.5 to the current
stable release at http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download

We are a small non-profit with a limited budget, but I can offer a small
honorarium if needed.

Most importantly we need help with anti-spam techniques like the
installation of http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bad_Behavior and whatever
else is recommended.

Our wiki is at: http://e-democracy.org/wiki

We also want to know how this extension is working for people:
http://public.kitware.com/Wiki/User:Barre/MediaWiki/Extensions/kw_bread_
crumbs

Thanks,
Steven Clift
Volunteer Board Chair, E-Democracy.Org


Steven Clift - http://publicus.net - Reply to: clift at publicus.net
Join DoWire: http://dowire.org
E-Democracy: http://e-democracy.org



From andyc at cunningham.me.uk  Thu Dec 29 15:36:37 2005
From: andyc at cunningham.me.uk (Andy Cunningham)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:36:37 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Help with upgrade - small honorarium available 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:20:04 CST."
	<037401c60c8b$58cc2880$6400a8c0@PUBLICUS2> 
Message-ID: <200512291536.jBTFabCf027770@cunningham.me.uk>


Steven

I'd be happy to help out with the upgrade.  

I'll mail you off list with some more background.

Andy


-- 
Andy Cunningham    -- www.cunningham.me.uk
I stopped believing in Santa Clause when I was six. Mother took me
to see him in a department store and he asked for my autograph.
                        --- Shirley Temple 


From andyc at cunningham.me.uk  Thu Dec 29 15:47:20 2005
From: andyc at cunningham.me.uk (Andy Cunningham)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 15:47:20 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Help with upgrade - small honorarium available 
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 29 Dec 2005 09:20:04 CST."
	<037401c60c8b$58cc2880$6400a8c0@PUBLICUS2> 
Message-ID: <200512291547.jBTFlKCf027922@cunningham.me.uk>

>>>>> "Steven" == Steven Clift <slc at publicus.net> writes:

    Steven> E-Democracy.Org needs help upgrading MediaWiki from 1.4.5 to
    Steven> the current stable release at
    Steven> http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Download

I presume you mean up to 1.5.4, which is the version I've just set up
(minimal content yet) at http://www.cunningham.me.uk/mlowiki.

    Steven> We are a small non-profit with a limited budget, but I can
    Steven> offer a small honorarium if needed.

If I can do it in 10 hours or less, we'll call it a donation.

    Steven> Most importantly we need help with anti-spam techniques like
    Steven> the installation of
    Steven> http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bad_Behavior and whatever
    Steven> else is recommended.

I'm no expert in this area, so you may find someone else better
equipped to help out with this part - and if they can do the whole
thing, I won't be offended.

My own background in Computing can be found at
http://www.cunningham.me.uk/cv.doc

Can you let me know

1) What your hosting environment is?  Specifically, do you have a
   dedicated server with command line access?   And do you have
   sufficient space to create a copy of the wiki files and database on
   that server to dry-run the upgrade?

2) Have you modified the existing Wiki software in any way?  It looks
   pretty vanilla to me, but there may be "under the hood" things that I
   haven't found yet.

3) The size of the database?

I'd propose that we copy the existing wiki and database, upgrade that,
and then test it out, and then repeat the process with the live database
locked out - the last step being to point the real website to the
upgraded database.  That way we can't lose anything!

Let me know if you're interested in proceeding and what kind of
timescales you have in mind for getting this done.

Andy


-- 
Andy Cunningham    -- www.cunningham.me.uk
I have a longstanding agreement with tequila:
I won't drink it, and it won't make me sick.
              -- Brian Kantor


From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec 29 16:29:29 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:29:29 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: how to delete my wiki page? mistakes
In-Reply-To: <1e55af990512290427t72fc151fwc00e235893f7f37c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051227155539.25D661158343@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<597AAB08-93F7-4A2B-8F50-4133143CD4F9@Bytesmiths.com>
	<1e55af990512290427t72fc151fwc00e235893f7f37c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512290829r721ca19g@mail.gmail.com>

Undelete the pages; yes, undelete. Then nip into the page table and
find out the page id...delete that page's row from the page table. Hop
over to the revisions table and delete all rows where rev_page is the
same as that page id. That's a permanent deletion; the page never
existed.

For the small touches, check that corresponding revisions are wiped
from the recent changes table, too.


Rob Church

On 29/12/05, Sy Ali <sy1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/27/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
> > > From: Sy Ali <sy1234 at gmail.com>
> > >
> > > ... apparently going into the database
> > > would indeed be required to purge history.. but such things are not
> > > for me...
> >
> > I think anyone who is going to administer a MediaWiki site would
> > benefit from learning something about MySQL.
> >
> > If you're someone who does a lot of web stuff, that learning would
> > not be limited to one application, either, as the PHP/MySQL combo is
> > used on hundreds of free web applications.
> >
> > There are also numerous GUI tools for administering a MySQL database,
> > that span the range from free to thousands of dollars. My favorite
> > (although it lacks a thing or two that cause me to run off to some
> > other tool now and then) is phpMyAdmin, which is free.
> >
> > As when learning anything, work on a backup. Record the manual steps
> > you take to accomplish your goal. Then try to do them in a script.
> > Then instead of ranting, submit your work for the benefit of all, and
> > become a famous contributor, rather than an infamous ranter!
>
> You might want to involve me in a reply to me.. I might have skipped
> over this post.
>
> Firstly, there are big fat disclaimers with making manual changes to
> the mediawiki database.  That alone says NO to fiddling around.
> That's a real showstopper to most people and especially myself.
>
> Then I could go on about how mysql isn't a real database and not a
> real skill I want to pick up anyways.  I'd rather not even work with
> phpmyadmin or any other tool.. especially for functionality which
> ought to exist in the host software.  I could also go on about how php
> is a letdown and not something I want to get involved with (too much
> exposure to php5).
>
> Having made those vague suggestions, I'd rather just say that I intend
> to stay a regular everyday user, which means ranting when I feel that
> developers leave gaping omissions in philosophy and functionality.
> MediaWiki is built for the Wikipedia.. something which wasn't and
> still isn't stressed enough.  This means that its needs and focuses
> aren't real-world.  Which sucks and I'm unfortunately stuck with it.
>
> Even if I were to get into it myself, which would invariably involve
> hiring a team to do it for me, tinkering with a project's database
> from the outside not only requires backups, it's not something which
> can be done lightly on a live installation of thousands of documents.
> It's not a matter of backing it up before trying it out, it would then
> require a massive backup history.  Tinkering with one thing leads to
> fun issues way down the road.. and having had data magically poof away
> from flakey database issues (thanks mysql!) there's no way I'd want
> random hacking in my database.
>
> So the only real solution to any of this is supporting a close fork of
> mediawiki with a team that has very in-depth knowledge of that
> project.  The fork would then support the real-world functionality
> that I keep ranting about.
>
> This fork reaching stability would let me use the functionality I
> need.  Randomly hacking around without proper knowledge isn't a good
> idea when a good decade of writing is on the line.
>
> Or I could do some scripting, back my database up, unleash the script
> to remove history older than a certain date, and then manually go
> through a few thousand documents to see if there was any damage.  I've
> done that before, it sucks.  I'd rather look for supported
> functionality for stuff like that this time around.
>
>
> The only real inbetween is to read the "it works for me" experiences
> of others when they are poking around their database the manual way.
> I'm not going to blaze any trails anymore..
>
> For example.. I have an "it works for me" on removing the row for a
> particular user login.  Developers here gave a "the sky will fall!"
> response to someone else's question about it.. so I'm still a bit
> inbetween (that was probably mw 1.3 though).
>
>
> In conclusion.. I don't like learning new tricks.  =)
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From zigger at gmail.com  Thu Dec 29 17:20:37 2005
From: zigger at gmail.com (Zigger)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 04:20:37 +1100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Center 2nd column cell content (was: side by side
	tables)
In-Reply-To: <9425013d0512220548r513aefe2g5c1971263c36b6a2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9425013d0512220548r513aefe2g5c1971263c36b6a2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <419a942d0512290920g48f7b41fl@mail.gmail.com>

Use standard HTML attributes, including align and style.
See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table

-- Zigger

On 23/12/05, Al Degutis wrote:
>...
> Also, how do I get the contents of the second cell (Percent) to center?
>
> {| border="1" cellpadding="2"
> |+Imager Purchased New or Used
> |-
> !New/Used!!Percent
> |-
> |New|| 49.3%
> |-
> |Used || 12.3%
> |}
>...

From robchur at gmail.com  Thu Dec 29 17:29:21 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 17:29:21 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Center 2nd column cell content (was: side by side
	tables)
In-Reply-To: <419a942d0512290920g48f7b41fl@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9425013d0512220548r513aefe2g5c1971263c36b6a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<419a942d0512290920g48f7b41fl@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512290929l6e138baax@mail.gmail.com>

Specifically:

|New|align="center"|49.3%


Rob Church

On 29/12/05, Zigger <zigger at gmail.com> wrote:
> Use standard HTML attributes, including align and style.
> See http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Table
>
> -- Zigger
>
> On 23/12/05, Al Degutis wrote:
> >...
> > Also, how do I get the contents of the second cell (Percent) to center?
> >
> > {| border="1" cellpadding="2"
> > |+Imager Purchased New or Used
> > |-
> > !New/Used!!Percent
> > |-
> > |New|| 49.3%
> > |-
> > |Used || 12.3%
> > |}
> >...
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
>
>


From mediawiki at fulda-vogelsberg.de  Thu Dec 29 18:15:40 2005
From: mediawiki at fulda-vogelsberg.de (mediawiki at fulda-vogelsberg.de)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:15:40 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Login problems
Message-ID: <2503235.10161135880141060.JavaMail.servlet@kundenserver>

Hello,

Rob helped me to solve my path problems. The reason was that php4 is now in cgi-bin folder.

But now there is an new problem, I am not able to log in :-(   

Fehlermeldung:
Premature end of script headers: php4-cgi

I think this problem belongs to the same reason, but how do I solve it?

Best greatings
Karin


From Jan at Bytesmiths.com  Thu Dec 29 18:43:17 2005
From: Jan at Bytesmiths.com (Jan Steinman)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 10:43:17 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: how to delete my wiki page? mistakes
In-Reply-To: <20051229122748.EEBEF1158555@mail.wikimedia.org>
References: <20051229122748.EEBEF1158555@mail.wikimedia.org>
Message-ID: <A478FDF8-6C7F-4D1A-A1F7-D4F2BCDB40A8@Bytesmiths.com>

> From: Sy Ali <sy1234 at gmail.com>
>
> On 12/27/05, Jan Steinman <Jan at bytesmiths.com> wrote:
>>> From: Sy Ali <sy1234 at gmail.com>
>>>
>>> ... apparently going into the database
>>> would indeed be required to purge history.. but such things are not
>>> for me...
>>
>> I think anyone who is going to administer a MediaWiki site would
>> benefit from learning something about MySQL.
>
> You might want to involve me in a reply to me.. I might have skipped
> over this post.

This sort of sums up our differences. If I post something to a public  
forum, I expect that people will reply there. I don't expect others  
to change the way they do things to cater to me, unless it's  
something truly personal. (By the way, Sy, how's the wife and kids? :-)

> I could go on about how mysql isn't a real database...
> I'd rather not even work with
> phpmyadmin...
> I could also go on about how php
> is a letdown and not something I want to get involved with...

My, aren't you a bundle of joy!

Patient: "Doctor, doctor, it hurts when I do this!"

Doctor: "Well, then stop doing that!"

I think you're using the wrong software for the wrong reasons.

> MediaWiki is built for the Wikipedia.. something which wasn't and
> still isn't stressed enough.  This means that its needs and focuses
> aren't real-world.  Which sucks and I'm unfortunately stuck with it.

WikiPedia isn't "real-world"? I think insisting that someone else's  
hammer doesn't serve your need for a screwdriver is what isn't "real- 
world!"

> In conclusion.. I don't like learning new tricks.  =)

I think you'd be best served by a commercial product. There are  
commercially supported wikis available. These people are paid to  
listen to customers whine -- and then to cater to the needs of their  
market.

In my experience, whining on this list that MediaWiki doesn't fit  
your particular needs -- especially in a deprecating manner -- is  
simply a quick way to get in a lot of people's spam filters.


:::: The white man seeks to conquer nature, to bend it to his will  
and to use it wastefully until it?s all gone and then he simply moves  
on, leaving the waste behind him and looking for new places to take.  
The whole white race is a monster who is always hungry and what he  
eats is land. ? Chiksika, elder brother of Tecumseh, March 19, 1779
:::: Jan Steinman, http://www.Bytesmiths.com



From mozakca at indiana.edu  Thu Dec 29 23:50:24 2005
From: mozakca at indiana.edu (Muzaffer Ozakca)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 18:50:24 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Usage stats and Google Analytics
Message-ID: <43B47640.6060509@indiana.edu>

Hi all,

I'm using a traffic log analysis tool and Google analytics to see what people 
are doing on my wiki site. As you know if you don't do pretty url modifications 
(e.g. still use index.php?title=... format), you only see index.php in the 
outputs of the analysis results. Would using short urls (e.g. domain/w/title) 
help in this regard? In other words, if I use short urls, will I be able to see 
the hits individual pages get?

Thanks.



From fenton.travers at gmail.com  Fri Dec 30 00:59:06 2005
From: fenton.travers at gmail.com (Fenton Travers)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:59:06 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] making an image a link to an external page.
Message-ID: <9c9a2f7a0512291659y5c986ceaj8aa4f98d6feca2bc@mail.gmail.com>

Okay, in plain old html I'd make an image a link to another page by going:

<a href="www.yahoo.com"><img src="myYahooLogo.gif"></a>

Reading the mediawiki help and trying to figure out how to do this
within the wiki...my god...I'm sorry but it seems horribly complex for
a relatively easy concept.  Is it really true that I have to make a
redirect at the image page?

So what I want to do is upload an image and then make that image link
to an external website, like perhaps:

[http://gmail.google.com/gmail [[Image:GmailIcon.jpg]]]

I'm hoping that there is a reasonably easy way to do this reasonably
common thing.

Thanks,

fenton


From travian.wiki at gmail.com  Fri Dec 30 01:45:31 2005
From: travian.wiki at gmail.com (Travian Wiki)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 19:45:31 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Copy the MonoBook Skin
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512230749k178c95e3k@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37f8f8ac0512212022p21ad37c5kbd3d4cefa296f1e8@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512212212r7598f7ect@mail.gmail.com>
	<37f8f8ac0512221239v21f106cav4dd13a056271b6aa@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512221248m370bac1bo@mail.gmail.com>
	<37f8f8ac0512230727q3278973ft894ddb088cf7c360@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512230749k178c95e3k@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37f8f8ac0512291745m76388464o3967e65f9aec5bec@mail.gmail.com>

I am afraid it is not that easy!  I copied Monobook.php and renamed it to
Christmas.php.  I then copied the monobook folder and renamed it Christmas.
I uploaded it, went into skins and chose Christmas.  As soon as I hit save,
nothing works and you get an error!

*Fatal error*: Cannot redeclare class skinmonobook in *
/home/supportw/public_html/wiki/skins/Christmas.php* on line *25*

You can see for yourself by going to
http://www.supportwiki.2plans.com/wikiand logging in as Username -
Demo  Password - demo

I searched for monobook in the Christmas.php file, and changed each one to
Christmas.  I ended up changing only


class SkinMonoBook extends SkinTemplate {

/** Using monobook. */

function initPage( &$out ) {

SkinTemplate::initPage( $out );

$this->skinname = 'Christmas';

$this->stylename = 'Christmas';

$this->template = 'ChristmasTemplate';

}

}



On 12/23/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Rename the references to MonoBook within the skin files to Christmas
> or whatever.
>
>
> Rob Church
>
> On 23/12/05, Travian Wiki <travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> > What?  How can I take Monobook, and then make a copy of it, and then
> rename
> > the copied skin?
> >
> > First, I copy the Monobook.php file and rename it to the skin name,
> > Christmas.php.  I then copy the monobook folder and rename it Christmas.
> > Where do I go from there so that my copy of the skin works?  If I just
> > upload the Christmas.php and Christmas folder the way they are, you get
> an
> > error message when you choose to use that skin!
> >
> >
> > On 12/22/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > I mean, you now modify your copy of the skin fine.
> > >
> > >
> > > Rob Church
> > >
> > > On 22/12/05, Travian Wiki <travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I can modify the existing skin.  I want to copy MonoBook and then
> modify
> > > the
> > > > copied version and still have the original version of MonoBook run
> along
> > > > side the new skin.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 12/22/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Nothing. That's the whole idea of class inheritance. You ought to
> find
> > > > > that modification of the skin will now be relatively painless.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Rob Church
> > > > >
> > > > > On 22/12/05, Travian Wiki <travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Is it possible to make a copy of the MonoBook skin, and then
> rename
> > > it
> > > > > to
> > > > > > something else?  I want to copy the MonoBook skin, and then
> start
> > > > > modifying
> > > > > > it from there.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > So far, I know that you have to copy the MonoBook folder and
> rename
> > > it
> > > > > to
> > > > > > the skin name.  You then have to copy Monobook.php and rename it
> to
> > > the
> > > > > skin
> > > > > > name.  You then have to change the lines -
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > class SkinChristmas extends SkinTemplate {
> > > > > >
> > > > > > /** Using monobook. */
> > > > > >
> > > > > > function initPage( &$out ) {
> > > > > >
> > > > > > SkinTemplate::initPage( $out );
> > > > > >
> > > > > > $this->skinname = 'Christmas';
> > > > > >
> > > > > > $this->stylename = 'Christmas';
> > > > > >
> > > > > > $this->template = 'ChristmasTemplate';
> > > > > >
> > > > > > }
> > > > > >
> > > > > > }
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In this example, it would make a skin called Christmas.  Where
> do
> > > you go
> > > > > > from here?  What has to be modified in SkinTemplate.php and
> > > > > SkinPHPTal.php?
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
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From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec 30 02:01:31 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 02:01:31 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] making an image a link to an external page.
In-Reply-To: <9c9a2f7a0512291659y5c986ceaj8aa4f98d6feca2bc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9c9a2f7a0512291659y5c986ceaj8aa4f98d6feca2bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512291801u60f83988m@mail.gmail.com>

Alas, this is a feature which has been requested, but not yet
implemented. See http://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=539 for
more details.


Rob Church

On 30/12/05, Fenton Travers <fenton.travers at gmail.com> wrote:
> Okay, in plain old html I'd make an image a link to another page by going:
>
> <a href="www.yahoo.com"><img src="myYahooLogo.gif"></a>
>
> Reading the mediawiki help and trying to figure out how to do this
> within the wiki...my god...I'm sorry but it seems horribly complex for
> a relatively easy concept.  Is it really true that I have to make a
> redirect at the image page?
>
> So what I want to do is upload an image and then make that image link
> to an external website, like perhaps:
>
> [http://gmail.google.com/gmail [[Image:GmailIcon.jpg]]]
>
> I'm hoping that there is a reasonably easy way to do this reasonably
> common thing.
>
> Thanks,
>
> fenton
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec 30 02:28:57 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 02:28:57 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Copy the MonoBook Skin
In-Reply-To: <37f8f8ac0512291745m76388464o3967e65f9aec5bec@mail.gmail.com>
References: <37f8f8ac0512212022p21ad37c5kbd3d4cefa296f1e8@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512212212r7598f7ect@mail.gmail.com>
	<37f8f8ac0512221239v21f106cav4dd13a056271b6aa@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512221248m370bac1bo@mail.gmail.com>
	<37f8f8ac0512230727q3278973ft894ddb088cf7c360@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512230749k178c95e3k@mail.gmail.com>
	<37f8f8ac0512291745m76388464o3967e65f9aec5bec@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512291828o4573f6c0q@mail.gmail.com>

Rename the class to SkinChristmas or somesuch. That's what's producing
the error; the duplicate class definition.


Rob Church

On 30/12/05, Travian Wiki <travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> I am afraid it is not that easy!  I copied Monobook.php and renamed it to
> Christmas.php.  I then copied the monobook folder and renamed it Christmas.
> I uploaded it, went into skins and chose Christmas.  As soon as I hit save,
> nothing works and you get an error!
>
> *Fatal error*: Cannot redeclare class skinmonobook in *
> /home/supportw/public_html/wiki/skins/Christmas.php* on line *25*
>
> You can see for yourself by going to
> http://www.supportwiki.2plans.com/wikiand logging in as Username -
> Demo  Password - demo
>
> I searched for monobook in the Christmas.php file, and changed each one to
> Christmas.  I ended up changing only
>
>
> class SkinMonoBook extends SkinTemplate {
>
> /** Using monobook. */
>
> function initPage( &$out ) {
>
> SkinTemplate::initPage( $out );
>
> $this->skinname = 'Christmas';
>
> $this->stylename = 'Christmas';
>
> $this->template = 'ChristmasTemplate';
>
> }
>
> }
>
>
>
> On 12/23/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Rename the references to MonoBook within the skin files to Christmas
> > or whatever.
> >
> >
> > Rob Church
> >
> > On 23/12/05, Travian Wiki <travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > What?  How can I take Monobook, and then make a copy of it, and then
> > rename
> > > the copied skin?
> > >
> > > First, I copy the Monobook.php file and rename it to the skin name,
> > > Christmas.php.  I then copy the monobook folder and rename it Christmas.
> > > Where do I go from there so that my copy of the skin works?  If I just
> > > upload the Christmas.php and Christmas folder the way they are, you get
> > an
> > > error message when you choose to use that skin!
> > >
> > >
> > > On 12/22/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I mean, you now modify your copy of the skin fine.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rob Church
> > > >
> > > > On 22/12/05, Travian Wiki <travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > I can modify the existing skin.  I want to copy MonoBook and then
> > modify
> > > > the
> > > > > copied version and still have the original version of MonoBook run
> > along
> > > > > side the new skin.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On 12/22/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Nothing. That's the whole idea of class inheritance. You ought to
> > find
> > > > > > that modification of the skin will now be relatively painless.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Rob Church
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On 22/12/05, Travian Wiki <travian.wiki at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > > Is it possible to make a copy of the MonoBook skin, and then
> > rename
> > > > it
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > something else?  I want to copy the MonoBook skin, and then
> > start
> > > > > > modifying
> > > > > > > it from there.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > So far, I know that you have to copy the MonoBook folder and
> > rename
> > > > it
> > > > > > to
> > > > > > > the skin name.  You then have to copy Monobook.php and rename it
> > to
> > > > the
> > > > > > skin
> > > > > > > name.  You then have to change the lines -
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > class SkinChristmas extends SkinTemplate {
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > /** Using monobook. */
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > function initPage( &$out ) {
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > SkinTemplate::initPage( $out );
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > $this->skinname = 'Christmas';
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > $this->stylename = 'Christmas';
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > $this->template = 'ChristmasTemplate';
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > }
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > }
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > In this example, it would make a skin called Christmas.  Where
> > do
> > > > you go
> > > > > > > from here?  What has to be modified in SkinTemplate.php and
> > > > > > SkinPHPTal.php?
> > > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > > > MediaWiki-l mailing list
> > > > > > MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> > > > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > > > >
> > > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > > >
> > > > _______________________________________________
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> > > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
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> > > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
> >
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From ralf-buero at kruedewagen.de  Fri Dec 30 08:32:47 2005
From: ralf-buero at kruedewagen.de (ralf-buero at kruedewagen.de)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 09:32:47 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] making an image a link to an external page.
In-Reply-To: <9c9a2f7a0512291659y5c986ceaj8aa4f98d6feca2bc@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9c9a2f7a0512291659y5c986ceaj8aa4f98d6feca2bc@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200512300932.48195.ralf-buero@kruedewagen.de>

I have also tried to link from an internal image to an external page. 
Although the Mediawiki Help pages describe how to do that, it was not 
working for me.

However, I ended up in linking from an external image. This works for 
example:
[http://www.mozilla-europe.org/de/ 
http://sfx-images.mozilla.org/affiliates/Buttons/110x32/get.gif]


On Friday 30 December 2005 01:59, Fenton Travers wrote:
> Okay, in plain old html I'd make an image a link to another page by
> going:
>
> <a href="www.yahoo.com"><img src="myYahooLogo.gif"></a>
>
> Reading the mediawiki help and trying to figure out how to do this
> within the wiki...my god...I'm sorry but it seems horribly complex
> for a relatively easy concept.  Is it really true that I have to
> make a redirect at the image page?
>
> So what I want to do is upload an image and then make that image
> link to an external website, like perhaps:
>
> [http://gmail.google.com/gmail [[Image:GmailIcon.jpg]]]
>
> I'm hoping that there is a reasonably easy way to do this
> reasonably common thing.
>
> Thanks,
>
> fenton
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l




From andres at holzapfel.ch  Fri Dec 30 10:31:42 2005
From: andres at holzapfel.ch (Andres Obrero)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 11:31:42 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] spam again and again in history_version link of
	mediawiki
Message-ID: <43B50C8E.5030906@holzapfel.ch>

here my story:
i host about 10 websites with mediawiki.
i noticed some anonymous guy from france spamming  in Current Events 
with all the span crap hidden in a very small div.
My reaction was to delete everything and install a spamblocker (no more 
anonymous login / the extension etc...)
All wikis were spammed and after doing some research myself in the net, 
i found a lot of other beginners wiki spammed too.

The ranking in google dropped from 4 to 0 within one week, even having 
removed all the crap.

Now i realized that google also look in all the versions and deleted 
pages !!!!!

So here the question:
How can i remove safely all spam in the database without leaving any 
link to a version.
Can i just delete the blob in mysql?

Thanks for helping.

unfortunately all wikis are going to be abused that way, even reacting 
immediately the ranking drops because of the versions!!!

Thanks for any hint
Andres


From sy1234 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 30 12:19:51 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 07:19:51 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: how to delete my wiki page? mistakes
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512290829r721ca19g@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051227155539.25D661158343@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<597AAB08-93F7-4A2B-8F50-4133143CD4F9@Bytesmiths.com>
	<1e55af990512290427t72fc151fwc00e235893f7f37c@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512290829r721ca19g@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512300419t329d34d5i6bad4cf5da0e674d@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/29/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> Undelete the pages; yes, undelete. Then nip into the page table and
> find out the page id...delete that page's row from the page table. Hop
> over to the revisions table and delete all rows where rev_page is the
> same as that page id. That's a permanent deletion; the page never
> existed.
>
> For the small touches, check that corresponding revisions are wiped
> from the recent changes table, too.

Is there wiki-side documentation on spelunking around the database
like this?  I don't know where to begin looking. (the mediawiki
hacking topics?)

This looks like it's only good for totally nuking a complete page, can
it be varied to delete the history of a particular page and leave the
the present revision intact?  I understand that it might not work that
way now (with revisions being tracked, and not complete page copies).

This stuff wouldn't work for bulk stuff as-is, but if it's simple
enough I could pull off some Ruby scripting it if there were some nice
mysql tools for Ruby (I'm not sure).  That, and I know some people I
can pay to do it and test it if need be.  =)


From sy1234 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 30 12:43:08 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 07:43:08 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] spam again and again in history_version link of
	mediawiki
In-Reply-To: <43B50C8E.5030906@holzapfel.ch>
References: <43B50C8E.5030906@holzapfel.ch>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512300443x630621a4v7b8d7b37c879276@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/30/05, Andres Obrero <andres at holzapfel.ch> wrote:
> So here the question:
> How can i remove safely all spam in the database without leaving any
> link to a version.
> Can i just delete the blob in mysql?

I don't know of a way to
* bulk-remove edits by a particular user
* remove certain content

However, to block future spam like this, I recommend that you edit
your LocalSettings.php and add either:
$wgSpamRegex="/<div/";
or if you need to use <div> tags, try:
$wgSpamRegex="/overflow:\s*auto/";

I also recommend the SpamBlacklist extension (although I couldn't get
it to work 100%, it still works fairly well for me)
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SpamBlacklist_extension


From sy1234 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 30 12:46:23 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 07:46:23 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Usage stats and Google Analytics
In-Reply-To: <43B47640.6060509@indiana.edu>
References: <43B47640.6060509@indiana.edu>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512300446y565d6824ud6dafaec63fc53af@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/29/05, Muzaffer Ozakca <mozakca at indiana.edu> wrote:
> I'm using a traffic log analysis tool and Google analytics to see what people
> are doing on my wiki site. As you know if you don't do pretty url modifications
> (e.g. still use index.php?title=... format), you only see index.php in the
> outputs of the analysis results. Would using short urls (e.g. domain/w/title)
> help in this regard? In other words, if I use short urls, will I be able to see
> the hits individual pages get?

When I tried using google sitemaps[1] it wouldn't work because my
rewriting made all hits to nonexistant page return as OK instead of
404/etc.  My mediawiki is in the root and has rewriting.

If your installation is in a subdirectory (domain/w/title) it should
work fine for you, even with rewriting.


[1] https://www.google.com/webmasters/sitemaps/


From sy1234 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 30 12:48:00 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 07:48:00 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Center 2nd column cell content (was: side by side
	tables)
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512290929l6e138baax@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9425013d0512220548r513aefe2g5c1971263c36b6a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<419a942d0512290920g48f7b41fl@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512290929l6e138baax@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512300448k7e664c7p41d30a18b7041a01@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/29/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> Specifically:
>
> |New|align="center"|49.3%

There's also valign="center" if I'm not mistaken.


From sy1234 at gmail.com  Fri Dec 30 12:52:45 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 07:52:45 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Help with upgrade - small honorarium available
In-Reply-To: <037401c60c8b$58cc2880$6400a8c0@PUBLICUS2>
References: <037401c60c8b$58cc2880$6400a8c0@PUBLICUS2>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512300452r7ab6f008g2c1c9f644764fc95@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/29/05, Steven Clift <slc at publicus.net> wrote:
> Most importantly we need help with anti-spam techniques like the
> installation of http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Bad_Behavior and whatever
> else is recommended.

Whoa, that's an interesting extension, thanks for mentioning it!

Also check out http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/SpamBlacklist_extension and put
$wgSpamRegex="/<div/";
or
$wgSpamRegex="/overflow:\s*auto/";
in your LocalSettings.php


From brion at pobox.com  Fri Dec 30 15:29:10 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:29:10 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] spam again and again in history_version link of
	mediawiki
In-Reply-To: <43B50C8E.5030906@holzapfel.ch>
References: <43B50C8E.5030906@holzapfel.ch>
Message-ID: <43B55246.8080709@pobox.com>

Andres Obrero wrote:
> Now i realized that google also look in all the versions and deleted
> pages !!!!!

No it doesn't. To begin with, old versions are specifically marked for spiders
not to index them. Deleted pages aren't accessible to an outside spider at all.

If your robots.txt is not set up properly to keep the robots from visiting the
pages, you should also set that up though that's just to keep useless load from
hitting the server.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From hubbsllc at comcast.net  Fri Dec 30 14:29:39 2005
From: hubbsllc at comcast.net (Jeff Hubbs)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:29:39 -0400
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] 1.4.12 --> 1.5.4 update.php failure
Message-ID: <43B54453.3060905@comcast.net>

I'm moving a wiki from one machine to another (both are Gentoo Linux).  
I brought in MW 1.5.4 from CVS, dumped/restored the wikidb, moved over 
my LocalSettings.php and images directory from my old machine and set 
their permissions.  I placed the new machine's MySQL root username and 
password in AdminSettings.php.  When I ran 
.../mediawiki/maintenance/update.php, I get a nonexistent-table failure; 
results are at http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/HAXWLN16.html.

There is no such table in the 1.4.12 machine's wikidb database. 

Is this a problem with the update script or do I need to get the new 
machine fully up and working under 1.4.12 before attempting to update it 
to 1.5.4?

Jeff


From hubbsllc at comcast.net  Fri Dec 30 14:36:47 2005
From: hubbsllc at comcast.net (Jeff Hubbs)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:36:47 -0400
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] 1.4.12 --> 1.5.4 update.php failure FIXED URL
In-Reply-To: <43B54453.3060905@comcast.net>
References: <43B54453.3060905@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <43B545FF.20305@comcast.net>

I made a mistake in that URL - it's 
http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/HAXwLN16.html -  sorry!

Jeff Hubbs wrote:

> I'm moving a wiki from one machine to another (both are Gentoo 
> Linux).  I brought in MW 1.5.4 from CVS, dumped/restored the wikidb, 
> moved over my LocalSettings.php and images directory from my old 
> machine and set their permissions.  I placed the new machine's MySQL 
> root username and password in AdminSettings.php.  When I ran 
> .../mediawiki/maintenance/update.php, I get a nonexistent-table 
> failure; results are at http://www.rafb.net/paste/results/HAXWLN16.html.
>
> There is no such table in the 1.4.12 machine's wikidb database.
> Is this a problem with the update script or do I need to get the new 
> machine fully up and working under 1.4.12 before attempting to update 
> it to 1.5.4?
>
> Jeff
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
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From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec 30 15:50:41 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 15:50:41 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Re: how to delete my wiki page? mistakes
In-Reply-To: <1e55af990512300419t329d34d5i6bad4cf5da0e674d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20051227155539.25D661158343@mail.wikimedia.org>
	<597AAB08-93F7-4A2B-8F50-4133143CD4F9@Bytesmiths.com>
	<1e55af990512290427t72fc151fwc00e235893f7f37c@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512290829r721ca19g@mail.gmail.com>
	<1e55af990512300419t329d34d5i6bad4cf5da0e674d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512300750s2b13b98n@mail.gmail.com>

Do you want complete removal of the old revisions, or do you just want
to hide them from the history?

If the latter...

1. Delete the page
2. Go to the undelete page (Special:Undelete/Pagename)
3. Scroll down and check the topmost box
4. Click Restore

This restores the latest revision from the deletion archives, but will
keep the old revisions hidden from non-sysops.


Rob Church

On 30/12/05, Sy Ali <sy1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/29/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Undelete the pages; yes, undelete. Then nip into the page table and
> > find out the page id...delete that page's row from the page table. Hop
> > over to the revisions table and delete all rows where rev_page is the
> > same as that page id. That's a permanent deletion; the page never
> > existed.
> >
> > For the small touches, check that corresponding revisions are wiped
> > from the recent changes table, too.
>
> Is there wiki-side documentation on spelunking around the database
> like this?  I don't know where to begin looking. (the mediawiki
> hacking topics?)
>
> This looks like it's only good for totally nuking a complete page, can
> it be varied to delete the history of a particular page and leave the
> the present revision intact?  I understand that it might not work that
> way now (with revisions being tracked, and not complete page copies).
>
> This stuff wouldn't work for bulk stuff as-is, but if it's simple
> enough I could pull off some Ruby scripting it if there were some nice
> mysql tools for Ruby (I'm not sure).  That, and I know some people I
> can pay to do it and test it if need be.  =)
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> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
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From robchur at gmail.com  Fri Dec 30 15:51:38 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 15:51:38 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Center 2nd column cell content (was: side by side
	tables)
In-Reply-To: <1e55af990512300448k7e664c7p41d30a18b7041a01@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9425013d0512220548r513aefe2g5c1971263c36b6a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<419a942d0512290920g48f7b41fl@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512290929l6e138baax@mail.gmail.com>
	<1e55af990512300448k7e664c7p41d30a18b7041a01@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512300751r578815bfn@mail.gmail.com>

True. Depends upon how the original poster meant "centre" though, doesn't it? :)


Rob Church

On 30/12/05, Sy Ali <sy1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/29/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Specifically:
> >
> > |New|align="center"|49.3%
>
> There's also valign="center" if I'm not mistaken.
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> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From al.degutis at gmail.com  Fri Dec 30 16:18:04 2005
From: al.degutis at gmail.com (Al Degutis)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 10:18:04 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Center 2nd column cell content (was: side by side
	tables)
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512300751r578815bfn@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9425013d0512220548r513aefe2g5c1971263c36b6a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<419a942d0512290920g48f7b41fl@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512290929l6e138baax@mail.gmail.com>
	<1e55af990512300448k7e664c7p41d30a18b7041a01@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512300751r578815bfn@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9425013d0512300818y3a0e5516o75fad405aa7d66da@mail.gmail.com>

> |New|align="center"|49.3%

Maybe I'm daft, but I'm still not getting it to work.

Look at http://www.skyinsight.com/wiki/index.php/Astronomy_Survey_2005
and what I'm trying to do is center only the second column with the
percentages, but it would also be okay it all cells were centered.

When I do

|align="center"|Meade || 25.2%

It only centers the first column. I tried:

||Meade|align="center"| 25.2%

but then it displays all of this in the first cell:

Meade |align="center"| 25.2%

and an empty second cell.

Confused,
Al Degutis
http://www.skyinsight.com/wiki


From peteandtaryn at hotmail.com  Fri Dec 30 21:30:11 2005
From: peteandtaryn at hotmail.com (peter hill)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 13:30:11 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Images and Distributed Wiki
Message-ID: <BAY104-F275CFED94F3E892E4EE31BD0280@phx.gbl>

Hi,

I'm creating an internal documentation wiki which will be hosted on a couple 
of hosts. Database replication will ensure that documentation gets 
syncronized across the different systems, but there doesn't appear to be a 
common solution to distribute the uploaded images/files. At least that is my 
impression from reading through the FAQs and documentation that I have been 
able to find. Is there a tool or common solution for this? Is it an option 
to store this data within the database as blobs?

Because of our architecture I will be unable to host these directories on 
NFS. I've considered putting together a simple rsync/shell script but will 
have to rely on ctime/mtime for conflicts. I don't mind having to write code 
to do this, but didn't want to recreate the wheel if an existing solution is 
out there.

Thanks!

-pete




From JTitus at kgw.com  Sat Dec 31 00:17:25 2005
From: JTitus at kgw.com (Titus, Jim)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 16:17:25 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Questions about customizing the interface
Message-ID: <F056CF28490BD411A8D600805F9F6E720CC1FCD6@kgwmail.kgw.belo.com>

I'm having some strange problems customizing the interface. I apologize if
this has been asked before--I searched mediawiki.org and I would search the
mail list if there was an easy way to do it. I'm running Mediawiki 1.5.4.

The first problem:
I changed $wgLogo to point to my logo, but the default logo shows up if I'm
on the main page and not logged in. If I go to any other page I see the
custom logo. If I log in I see the custom logo even on the main page.

The second problem (possibly related to the first):
I edited MediaWiki:Sidebar but the default one shows up on the main page.
Any other page shows my edited MediaWiki:Sidebar. This is logged in or not.

Is there something magic about the main page that it doesn't display
changes?

--Jim Titus


From robchur at gmail.com  Sat Dec 31 00:50:48 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 00:50:48 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Questions about customizing the interface
In-Reply-To: <F056CF28490BD411A8D600805F9F6E720CC1FCD6@kgwmail.kgw.belo.com>
References: <F056CF28490BD411A8D600805F9F6E720CC1FCD6@kgwmail.kgw.belo.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512301650w2c6bd9fbi@mail.gmail.com>

This is a caching issue. Quickest and simplest fix is:

1. Go to the main page
2. Hit the history tab
3. Edit the URL and change action=history to action=purge
4. Hit enter

Should be sorted.


Rob Church

On 31/12/05, Titus, Jim <JTitus at kgw.com> wrote:
> I'm having some strange problems customizing the interface. I apologize if
> this has been asked before--I searched mediawiki.org and I would search the
> mail list if there was an easy way to do it. I'm running Mediawiki 1.5.4.
>
> The first problem:
> I changed $wgLogo to point to my logo, but the default logo shows up if I'm
> on the main page and not logged in. If I go to any other page I see the
> custom logo. If I log in I see the custom logo even on the main page.
>
> The second problem (possibly related to the first):
> I edited MediaWiki:Sidebar but the default one shows up on the main page.
> Any other page shows my edited MediaWiki:Sidebar. This is logged in or not.
>
> Is there something magic about the main page that it doesn't display
> changes?
>
> --Jim Titus
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From brion at pobox.com  Sat Dec 31 06:53:54 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 07:53:54 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Images and Distributed Wiki
In-Reply-To: <BAY104-F275CFED94F3E892E4EE31BD0280@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY104-F275CFED94F3E892E4EE31BD0280@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <43B62B02.5020307@pobox.com>

peter hill wrote:
> I'm creating an internal documentation wiki which will be hosted on a
> couple of hosts. Database replication will ensure that documentation
> gets syncronized across the different systems, but there doesn't appear
> to be a common solution to distribute the uploaded images/files. At
> least that is my impression from reading through the FAQs and
> documentation that I have been able to find. Is there a tool or common
> solution for this? Is it an option to store this data within the
> database as blobs?

Not currently. This is a planned side feature of a rewrite of the image storage
system I've got in my todo queue, but that may be a couple months as the
priority has been lowered by our new fileserver giving excellent performance on
the old system for now.

> Because of our architecture I will be unable to host these directories
> on NFS. I've considered putting together a simple rsync/shell script but
> will have to rely on ctime/mtime for conflicts. I don't mind having to
> write code to do this, but didn't want to recreate the wheel if an
> existing solution is out there.

If you have *one* wiki spread over two hosts which can't share a filesystem,
we've got nothing built-in for you. If you have *two* wikis on two hosts, which
share some additional stuff, you could set up another wiki to run uploads to and
use the 'shared upload' (commons) stuff to load them remotely from both.

If you go for rsync-type copying of files, you can make your life easier by
disabling overwriting of uploaded images; this should avoid most worries about
conflicts. In 1.6 (CVS devel ver) you can set the group permissions (see
DefaultSettings.php for the permissions list), or you could probably hack
SpecialUpload.php a little bit in 1.5.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From zora at fulda-vogelsberg.de  Wed Dec 28 18:52:49 2005
From: zora at fulda-vogelsberg.de (km)
Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 19:52:49 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Pfadprobleme/ problems with path
Message-ID: <43B2DF01.7040907@fulda-vogelsberg.de>

Hallo Liste,
bin auch Anf?nger und konnte bislang niemand hier weiterhelfen, aber 
jetzt brauche ich Hilfe:
insgesamt habe ich 3 wikis laufen. Eines bei 1und1 das l?uft derzeit 
ohne Problem. Zwei weitere habe ich bei silverlineserver. Die liefen 
bislang auch, bis letzte Woche, pl?tzlich ging nichts mehr, obwohl ich 
nichts ver?ndert habe.

Wenn ich jetzt wie ?blich  meine URL aufrufe, kommt
die Fehlermeldung:
"Umleitungslimit f?r diese URL ist ?berschritten. Die angeforderte Seite 
kann nicht geladen werden. Das kann von geblockten Cockies herr?hren"

Eine Unterseite kann ich erreichen, wenn ich den urspr?nglichen Link 
eingebe, von dort aus wird aber wieder falsch verlinkt
statt
wiki/index.php?title=Spezial:Specialpages

versucht der browser folgenem Pfad zu folgen und findet nat?rlich nix, 
weil es den Ordner Index.php gibt es nicht:
wiki/index.php/Spezial:Specialpages

Habt ihr ne Ahnung an was das liegen kann?

Ein PHP update? Ordner wurden verschoben oder wei? der geier. Der 
Provider antwortet leider nicht auf meine Fragen :-(
Kann mir jemand weiterhelfen?
Es gr??t Euch
Karin


Hello,
is there anybody, who is able to help me with my  wikiproblem?
My wiki worked ok. But suddenly I could not reach the URL. I found out 
that I can fetch a page if I change the link from the shown way:
wiki/index.php/Spezial:Specialpages

to
wiki/index.php?title=Spezial:Specialpages

But all links on this page are wrong again. I changed nothing. How can I 
fix this problem, I think my provider changed anything.

I would be happy  if annybody got an idea
Karin from Germany


 



From plovic at activit.sk  Thu Dec 29 15:28:15 2005
From: plovic at activit.sk (Peter Lovic)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 16:28:15 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] wrong link 
Message-ID: <14e001c60c8c$80644ed0$0301a8c0@lotus>

Hello, 

on this page: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Communication at "All three lists are also available through Gmane which provides" is wron url address to Gnane. 

With regards, 
Peter Lovic from Slovakia ;)

From ploosqva at gmail.com  Thu Dec 29 22:32:18 2005
From: ploosqva at gmail.com (Tomasz Pluskiewicz)
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 23:32:18 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki 1.5.4 installation problem
Message-ID: <3a16f0160512291432w555bc550hfa68ddbacec6b85a@mail.gmail.com>

Hi I have a problem installing MediaWiki on my hosting service package.
Here's what I get when I try. It says it's a MySQL problem, but won't even
have a clue what to ask my administrator to do...

RSVP
ploosqva


PHP 4.3.11: ok
Warning: PHP's register_globals option is enabled. MediaWiki will work
correctly, but this setting increases your exposure to potential security
vulnerabilities in PHP-based software running on your server. You should
disable it if you are able.
PHP server API is cgi; using ugly URLs (index.php?title=Page_Title)
Have XML / Latin1-UTF-8 conversion support.
PHP's memory_limit is 16M. If this is too low, installation may fail!
Attempting to raise limit to 20M... ok.
Have zlib support; enabling output compression.
Neither Turck MMCache nor eAccelerator are installed, can't use object
caching functions
Warning: shell_exec() has been disabled for security reasons in
/home/wikibus/public_html/wiki/config/index.php on line 1328
GNU diff3 not found.
Found GD graphics library built-in, image thumbnailing will be enabled if
you enable uploads.
Installation directory: /home/wikibus/public_html/wiki
Script URI path: /wiki
PHP is linked with old MySQL client libraries. If you are using a
MySQL 4.1server and have problems connecting to the database, see
http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/old-client.html for help.
Trying to connect to MySQL on 127.0.0.1 as root...
MySQL error 1045: Access denied for user: 'root at localhost' (Using password:
NO)
Trying regular user...
MySQL error 1045: Access denied for user: 'wikibus_admin at localhost' (Using
password: YES)


From jcarr at linuxmachines.com  Fri Dec 30 20:57:33 2005
From: jcarr at linuxmachines.com (Jeff Carr)
Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 12:57:33 -0800
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki as a blog?
Message-ID: <43B59F3D.5@linuxmachines.com>

A while back a developer posted:

On 08/13/05 11:59, Sy <sy1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
> I designed a simple set of templates to allow weblog-style articles --
> namely for permanent links and discussion.
<snip>
> http://jrandomhacker.info/mw/index.php/MediaWiki_as_a_weblog
> http://jrandomhacker.info/mw/index.php/MediaWiki_calendar_templating

My email is just to request that a blog feature be added to MediaWiki.
Perhaps a blog link on each user's mail wiki page that can be enabled by
the site administrator? A bonus would be having a site-wide option to
make the blog's only editable by the blog owner.

When the Mozilla Foundation migrated developer.mozilla.org to the
MediaWiki, one of the things I noticed at the time was that they use
something else for the developer blogs. Perhaps if the MediaWiki had
this feature it could be used for everything?

Enjoy,
Jeff


From brion at pobox.com  Sat Dec 31 07:15:24 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:15:24 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki 1.5.4 installation problem
In-Reply-To: <3a16f0160512291432w555bc550hfa68ddbacec6b85a@mail.gmail.com>
References: <3a16f0160512291432w555bc550hfa68ddbacec6b85a@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43B6300C.8090807@pobox.com>

Tomasz Pluskiewicz wrote:
> Hi I have a problem installing MediaWiki on my hosting service package.
> Here's what I get when I try. It says it's a MySQL problem, but won't even
> have a clue what to ask my administrator to do...

[snip]
> PHP is linked with old MySQL client libraries. If you are using a
> MySQL 4.1server and have problems connecting to the database, see
> http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/old-client.html for help.
[snip]

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From robchur at gmail.com  Sat Dec 31 07:54:47 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 07:54:47 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki as a blog?
In-Reply-To: <43B59F3D.5@linuxmachines.com>
References: <43B59F3D.5@linuxmachines.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512302354l74f2ce1fj@mail.gmail.com>

Similar behaviour could be achieved with user pages. I would support
(and perhaps code a patch for, even if not to be included in the main
code) a feature whereby ordinary users can only edit their own user
pages, while allowing sysops to edit other user's user pages as
needed.


Rob Church

On 30/12/05, Jeff Carr <jcarr at linuxmachines.com> wrote:
> A while back a developer posted:
>
> On 08/13/05 11:59, Sy <sy1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I designed a simple set of templates to allow weblog-style articles --
> > namely for permanent links and discussion.
> <snip>
> > http://jrandomhacker.info/mw/index.php/MediaWiki_as_a_weblog
> > http://jrandomhacker.info/mw/index.php/MediaWiki_calendar_templating
>
> My email is just to request that a blog feature be added to MediaWiki.
> Perhaps a blog link on each user's mail wiki page that can be enabled by
> the site administrator? A bonus would be having a site-wide option to
> make the blog's only editable by the blog owner.
>
> When the Mozilla Foundation migrated developer.mozilla.org to the
> MediaWiki, one of the things I noticed at the time was that they use
> something else for the developer blogs. Perhaps if the MediaWiki had
> this feature it could be used for everything?
>
> Enjoy,
> Jeff
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Sat Dec 31 07:56:55 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 07:56:55 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki 1.5.4 installation problem
In-Reply-To: <43B6300C.8090807@pobox.com>
References: <3a16f0160512291432w555bc550hfa68ddbacec6b85a@mail.gmail.com>
	<43B6300C.8090807@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512302356w612227beo@mail.gmail.com>

To the original poster:

In other words, this means this is something your hosting company
ought to sort out pronto, so it's not directly your problem. ;-)


Rob Church

On 31/12/05, Brion Vibber <brion at pobox.com> wrote:
> Tomasz Pluskiewicz wrote:
> > Hi I have a problem installing MediaWiki on my hosting service package.
> > Here's what I get when I try. It says it's a MySQL problem, but won't even
> > have a clue what to ask my administrator to do...
>
> [snip]
> > PHP is linked with old MySQL client libraries. If you are using a
> > MySQL 4.1server and have problems connecting to the database, see
> > http://dev.mysql.com/doc/mysql/en/old-client.html for help.
> [snip]
>
> -- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>
>
>
>


From robchur at gmail.com  Sat Dec 31 07:57:58 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 07:57:58 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Pfadprobleme/ problems with path
In-Reply-To: <43B2DF01.7040907@fulda-vogelsberg.de>
References: <43B2DF01.7040907@fulda-vogelsberg.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512302357t7ff0e328v@mail.gmail.com>

A classic, this. Set $wgArticlePath in LocalSettings.php to:

$wgArticlePath = "$wgScript?title=$1";

...and see if that works.


Rob Church

On 28/12/05, km <zora at fulda-vogelsberg.de> wrote:
> Hallo Liste,
> bin auch Anf?nger und konnte bislang niemand hier weiterhelfen, aber
> jetzt brauche ich Hilfe:
> insgesamt habe ich 3 wikis laufen. Eines bei 1und1 das l?uft derzeit
> ohne Problem. Zwei weitere habe ich bei silverlineserver. Die liefen
> bislang auch, bis letzte Woche, pl?tzlich ging nichts mehr, obwohl ich
> nichts ver?ndert habe.
>
> Wenn ich jetzt wie ?blich  meine URL aufrufe, kommt
> die Fehlermeldung:
> "Umleitungslimit f?r diese URL ist ?berschritten. Die angeforderte Seite
> kann nicht geladen werden. Das kann von geblockten Cockies herr?hren"
>
> Eine Unterseite kann ich erreichen, wenn ich den urspr?nglichen Link
> eingebe, von dort aus wird aber wieder falsch verlinkt
> statt
> wiki/index.php?title=Spezial:Specialpages
>
> versucht der browser folgenem Pfad zu folgen und findet nat?rlich nix,
> weil es den Ordner Index.php gibt es nicht:
> wiki/index.php/Spezial:Specialpages
>
> Habt ihr ne Ahnung an was das liegen kann?
>
> Ein PHP update? Ordner wurden verschoben oder wei? der geier. Der
> Provider antwortet leider nicht auf meine Fragen :-(
> Kann mir jemand weiterhelfen?
> Es gr??t Euch
> Karin
>
>
> Hello,
> is there anybody, who is able to help me with my  wikiproblem?
> My wiki worked ok. But suddenly I could not reach the URL. I found out
> that I can fetch a page if I change the link from the shown way:
> wiki/index.php/Spezial:Specialpages
>
> to
> wiki/index.php?title=Spezial:Specialpages
>
> But all links on this page are wrong again. I changed nothing. How can I
> fix this problem, I think my provider changed anything.
>
> I would be happy  if annybody got an idea
> Karin from Germany
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From lists at sprayen.de  Sat Dec 31 10:53:05 2005
From: lists at sprayen.de (Claus Malter)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 11:53:05 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] No Email on site changes
Message-ID: <43B66311.1070401@sprayen.de>

Hello,

i have a problem with MediaWiki 1.5.4.

I have added an Email address to the Admin user account. Also i've
checked the options to get an Email on every change in the Wiki.

But i do not receive any notifications on site changes. I've tested it
with other user accounts. Not with the Admin itself.

If I change the Email address of the Admin user i get a confirmation
Email. I guess the sending of a mail should work.

What's the matter about that?

Kind regards and a happy new year,

Claus Malter



From sy1234 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 31 13:54:04 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:54:04 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Center 2nd column cell content (was: side by side
	tables)
In-Reply-To: <9425013d0512300818y3a0e5516o75fad405aa7d66da@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9425013d0512220548r513aefe2g5c1971263c36b6a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<419a942d0512290920g48f7b41fl@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512290929l6e138baax@mail.gmail.com>
	<1e55af990512300448k7e664c7p41d30a18b7041a01@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512300751r578815bfn@mail.gmail.com>
	<9425013d0512300818y3a0e5516o75fad405aa7d66da@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512310554v198ed2aaw14e5c3c5803fd51b@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/30/05, Al Degutis <al.degutis at gmail.com> wrote:
> Confused,

I need to understand your problem better.

You are saying that you want the percentages horizontally centered
within their individual cells?

So you mean..

Brand 	 Percent
Meade 	25.2%

1)
Where the string "25.2%" is centered within the "Percent" column?  If
so, that's as easy as: replacing 25.2% with <center>25.2%</center>

2)
That is one way.  The other way is to do something like this to center
the entire right-hand column:

{|
|-
| top-left
| align="center" | top-right
|-
| bottom-left
| bottom-right
|}

See how I've chosen different syntax for my table.  I'm not used to your method,

3)
You are doing:
|align="center"|Meade || 25.2%
but should instead be doing:
|Meade || align="center" | 25.2%
But that only works for one single cell.  My method above (2) works
for all cells in that column.


From sy1234 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 31 14:01:54 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 09:01:54 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki as a blog?
In-Reply-To: <43B59F3D.5@linuxmachines.com>
References: <43B59F3D.5@linuxmachines.com>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512310601y251d1215y24f02599d164f0e2@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/30/05, Jeff Carr <jcarr at linuxmachines.com> wrote:
> A while back a developer posted:
>
> On 08/13/05 11:59, Sy <sy1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > I designed a simple set of templates to allow weblog-style articles --
> > namely for permanent links and discussion.
> <snip>
> > http://jrandomhacker.info/mw/index.php/MediaWiki_as_a_weblog
> > http://jrandomhacker.info/mw/index.php/MediaWiki_calendar_templating

I'm still enjoying what I've done with that templating.  I agree that
some official support would be wonderful to see, but I'm going to
brace myself for "mediawiki is not a blog, if you want a blog you
should be using something else"  ;)

I think having that in mind is why I decided to do it myself.. it
works for a single-user environment right now, but it's also made to
be able to use different "styles" -- that style concept could be used
to support multiple users.

I understand there are a few extensions.. I wonder if it's feasible to
push to get one of those absorbed into the mainstream code..  I don't
even know how good any of the extensions are..


From sy1234 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 31 14:03:04 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 09:03:04 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki as a blog?
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512302354l74f2ce1fj@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43B59F3D.5@linuxmachines.com>
	<e92136380512302354l74f2ce1fj@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512310603v1d9a478dq404b2f62921c5ed1@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/31/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> Similar behaviour could be achieved with user pages. I would support
> (and perhaps code a patch for, even if not to be included in the main
> code) a feature whereby ordinary users can only edit their own user
> pages, while allowing sysops to edit other user's user pages as
> needed.

You're talking about the automatically-generated sub-page and backlink
concepts?  I'm not sure how pretty that would be..


From al.degutis at gmail.com  Sat Dec 31 14:20:06 2005
From: al.degutis at gmail.com (Al Degutis)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 08:20:06 -0600
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Center 2nd column cell content (was: side by side
	tables)
In-Reply-To: <1e55af990512310554v198ed2aaw14e5c3c5803fd51b@mail.gmail.com>
References: <9425013d0512220548r513aefe2g5c1971263c36b6a2@mail.gmail.com>
	<419a942d0512290920g48f7b41fl@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512290929l6e138baax@mail.gmail.com>
	<1e55af990512300448k7e664c7p41d30a18b7041a01@mail.gmail.com>
	<e92136380512300751r578815bfn@mail.gmail.com>
	<9425013d0512300818y3a0e5516o75fad405aa7d66da@mail.gmail.com>
	<1e55af990512310554v198ed2aaw14e5c3c5803fd51b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <9425013d0512310620j2bb089f2h14c27331b8c81a6d@mail.gmail.com>

> I need to understand your problem better.
> You are saying that you want the percentages horizontally centered
> within their individual cells?

Exactly.

> 2)
> That is one way.  The other way is to do something like this to center
> the entire right-hand column:
>
> {|
> |-
> | top-left
> | align="center" | top-right
> |-
> | bottom-left
> | bottom-right
> |}

> 3)
> You are doing:
> |align="center"|Meade || 25.2%
> but should instead be doing:
> |Meade || align="center" | 25.2%
> But that only works for one single cell.  My method above (2) works
> for all cells in that column.

#2 looks like the solution I'm looking for. I'll give that a try.

Thanks!
Al Degutis
http://www.skyinsight.com/wiki


From sy1234 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 31 16:06:44 2005
From: sy1234 at gmail.com (Sy Ali)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 11:06:44 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] spam again and again in history_version link of
	mediawiki
In-Reply-To: <43B55246.8080709@pobox.com>
References: <43B50C8E.5030906@holzapfel.ch> <43B55246.8080709@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <1e55af990512310806x4706c631jb89ec3f1fc84b12f@mail.gmail.com>

On 12/30/05, Brion Vibber <brion at pobox.com> wrote:
(snip)
> To begin with, old versions are specifically marked for spiders
> not to index them. Deleted pages aren't accessible to an outside spider at all.
>
> If your robots.txt is not set up properly to keep the robots from visiting the
> pages, you should also set that up though that's just to keep useless load from
> hitting the server.

So does this mean that I either /must/ or /don't need to/ tweak my own
robots.txt to ensure that robots don't crawl history?

I had heard that there are the proper meta tag (or whatever) to tell
spiders not to delve into revisions.. where can I learn more about
this issue?

I visited the meta page, but it doesn't go into detail..
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Robots.txt


From astronouth7303 at gmail.com  Sat Dec 31 16:49:06 2005
From: astronouth7303 at gmail.com (Jamie Bliss)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 11:49:06 -0500
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] GD2 warning
Message-ID: <dp6cqe$om4$1@sea.gmane.org>

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A few warnings about using GD2 as your thumbnail generator.

I have found at least 2 bugs with the GD2 library, both dealing with
PNGs with an alpha channel. One of them is purely aesthetic; the other
silently crashes PHP (and Apache).

The first bug is that in resizing a PNG image, it will either (depending
on how the destination image was created)
* Keep the alpha and change the colors to shades of an arbitrary one (in
my case, yellow)
* Loose the alpha

The second bug is that while loading the source image, GD2 causes some
kind of error and silently kills PHP and (if you're using SAPI) Apache.
(To know that it is actually crashing Apache, try running Apache with
"-D ONE_PROCESS".)

Just a word of warning. There are advantages to running other programs
to do your work.

- -- Jamie
- -------------------------------------------------------------------
http://endeavour.zapto.org/astro73/
Thank you to JosephM for inviting me to Gmail!
Have lots of invites. Gmail now has 2GB.
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From nijmegenaar at gmail.com  Sat Dec 31 17:16:49 2005
From: nijmegenaar at gmail.com (Joris)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 18:16:49 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Common.css
Message-ID: <ac59fc5a0512310916k28bf7808wfe69db6585418599@mail.gmail.com>

If i look on mediawiki.org or meta.wikimedia.org or wikipedia.org in
the page source i see:
@import "/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css&smaxage=2678400";

In each skin, with userstyles on or off, doesn't matter.
However i can't find how to enable this on my own wiki-website, i
think it's not on the mediawiki as distributed (i have latest version
downloaded 3 days ago).

How can i fix this?


From robchur at gmail.com  Sat Dec 31 22:53:33 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 22:53:33 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] MediaWiki as a blog?
In-Reply-To: <1e55af990512310603v1d9a478dq404b2f62921c5ed1@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43B59F3D.5@linuxmachines.com>
	<e92136380512302354l74f2ce1fj@mail.gmail.com>
	<1e55af990512310603v1d9a478dq404b2f62921c5ed1@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <e92136380512311453n2570b03fg@mail.gmail.com>

No, I'm stating that one could, if one was so inclined, use one's user
page to manage such a blog, and that it would be possible to make a
number of modifications to prevent ordinary users from editing any
user page but their own. (Talk pages would still be freely editable)


Rob Church

On 31/12/05, Sy Ali <sy1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
> On 12/31/05, Rob Church <robchur at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Similar behaviour could be achieved with user pages. I would support
> > (and perhaps code a patch for, even if not to be included in the main
> > code) a feature whereby ordinary users can only edit their own user
> > pages, while allowing sysops to edit other user's user pages as
> > needed.
>
> You're talking about the automatically-generated sub-page and backlink
> concepts?  I'm not sure how pretty that would be..
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From brion at pobox.com  Sat Dec 31 22:56:27 2005
From: brion at pobox.com (Brion Vibber)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:56:27 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] Common.css
In-Reply-To: <ac59fc5a0512310916k28bf7808wfe69db6585418599@mail.gmail.com>
References: <ac59fc5a0512310916k28bf7808wfe69db6585418599@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43B70C9B.6050206@pobox.com>

Joris wrote:
> If i look on mediawiki.org or meta.wikimedia.org or wikipedia.org in
> the page source i see:
> @import "/w/index.php?title=MediaWiki:Common.css&action=raw&ctype=text/css&smaxage=2678400";
> 
> In each skin, with userstyles on or off, doesn't matter.
> However i can't find how to enable this on my own wiki-website, i
> think it's not on the mediawiki as distributed (i have latest version
> downloaded 3 days ago).

I believe this is new in 1.6. You can run the development code out of our CVS
repository, but be aware that things may change without warning day to day.

-- brion vibber (brion @ pobox.com)

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From funkfeuer at gmail.com  Sat Dec 31 11:17:51 2005
From: funkfeuer at gmail.com (Martin Puaschitz)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 12:17:51 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] HTML to Wiki-Converter?
Message-ID: <43B668DF.6090509@gmail.com>

Hello!

We would like to transfer a big CMS-System to a brandnew Wiki-System.
As everything was done with HTML we would love to get a good filter
where we put HTML in and get Wiki-Syntax out - i know such filters exist
for Word & Co....

Any ideas, links or hints?

Would be great.

Happy new Year,
Martin


From robchur at gmail.com  Sat Dec 31 23:27:35 2005
From: robchur at gmail.com (Rob Church)
Date: Sat, 31 Dec 2005 23:27:35 +0000
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] No Email on site changes
In-Reply-To: <43B66311.1070401@sprayen.de>
References: <43B66311.1070401@sprayen.de>
Message-ID: <e92136380512311527v5f286febg@mail.gmail.com>

Is email authentication enabled, and if so, is the user authenticated?


Rob Church

On 31/12/05, Claus Malter <lists at sprayen.de> wrote:
> Hello,
>
> i have a problem with MediaWiki 1.5.4.
>
> I have added an Email address to the Admin user account. Also i've
> checked the options to get an Email on every change in the Wiki.
>
> But i do not receive any notifications on site changes. I've tested it
> with other user accounts. Not with the Admin itself.
>
> If I change the Email address of the Admin user i get a confirmation
> Email. I guess the sending of a mail should work.
>
> What's the matter about that?
>
> Kind regards and a happy new year,
>
> Claus Malter
>
> _______________________________________________
> MediaWiki-l mailing list
> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>


From lists at sprayen.de  Sat Dec 31 23:52:19 2005
From: lists at sprayen.de (Claus Malter)
Date: Sun, 01 Jan 2006 00:52:19 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] No Email on site changes
In-Reply-To: <e92136380512311527v5f286febg@mail.gmail.com>
References: <43B66311.1070401@sprayen.de>
	<e92136380512311527v5f286febg@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <43B719B3.3060604@sprayen.de>

Hello Rob,

Rob Church wrote:
> Is email authentication enabled, and if so, is the user authenticated?

Yes. '$wgEmailAuthentication = true;' and the user is also
authenticated. That's why I'm wondering why it doesn't work.

In the error logs of my apache nothing can be found.

> Rob Church

Kind regards,

Claus Malter

> On 31/12/05, Claus Malter <lists at sprayen.de> wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> i have a problem with MediaWiki 1.5.4.
>>
>> I have added an Email address to the Admin user account. Also i've
>> checked the options to get an Email on every change in the Wiki.
>>
>> But i do not receive any notifications on site changes. I've tested it
>> with other user accounts. Not with the Admin itself.
>>
>> If I change the Email address of the Admin user i get a confirmation
>> Email. I guess the sending of a mail should work.
>>
>> What's the matter about that?
>>
>> Kind regards and a happy new year,
>>
>> Claus Malter
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> MediaWiki-l mailing list
>> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
>> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> MediaWiki-l at Wikimedia.org
> http://mail.wikipedia.org/mailman/listinfo/mediawiki-l



From anselmthecrack at yahoo.de  Sat Dec 24 09:29:50 2005
From: anselmthecrack at yahoo.de (anselm)
Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 10:29:50 +0100
Subject: [Mediawiki-l] (kein Betreff)
Message-ID: <op.s197b0azuhkqbt@linux.site>

How do i change the directory where to upload files with the upload dialog?
is is possible to upload files to another server?
thank you for answering
anselm

	

	
		
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