[Foundation-l] Wiki Loves Monuments (Was: On curiosity, cats and scapegoats)

Tue Sep 13 08:39:52 UTC 2011

Hi Naoko,

Thanks for your pointers. What I'm seeing this year is that in order
to go global, we'll probably need around 10 people to coordinate the
event (I'm thinking that this year there were only 2 people involved
in all the steps and a few more that helped in different areas).

This means that it's not too early to start talking about WLM2012, but
perhaps a better place for this is the WikiLovesMonuments lists. We
would like to see you participate in discussions there :)

Thanks,
Strainu

2011/9/13 KIZU Naoko <aphaia at gmail.com>:
> Hello there,
>
> Japan has a such (thanks Yaroslave for your concern) and iirc Taiwan
> has too. Perhaps other countries.
>
> If people are ambition enough to spread coordination efforts to the
> large international orgs, I'd point out not only UNESCO but also
> International Society of Aesthetics would be a good candidate to
> contact. In particular where the government doesn't provide such a
> list. ISA itself won't be so excited but you could ask them to have
> you contact to the local appropriate associations which are keen and
> open to collaborate with guys coming outsides from adacemia.
>
> On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 6:04 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod at mccme.ru> wrote:
>>> @Yaroslav: the main reason to focus on Europe this year was the large
>>> concentration, intergovernmental support (European Commission & Council
>> of
>>> Europe) and lack of resources (mainly man power). If there are next year
>>> enough people to carry on the idea, I'm sure we can include more
>> countries,
>>> *if* the concept works for them.
>>>
>> <...>
>>
>>> Finally a note about chapters. Yes, having a chapter is very helpful -
>>> usually it is a group of organized volunteers who has existing
>> experience
>>> with media and volunteer coordination (because some coordination is
>>> necessary) and they have access to some kind of budgeting / bank
>> accounts.
>>> But also this is very practical - this year four countries without any
>>> chapter participated: Andorra (with the help of Amical), Belgium &
>>> Luxembourg (with a lot of dedicated volunteers, mostly in Belgium) and
>>> Romania (with the help of a local pro-linux association and local
>>> volunteers). So there is definitely no rule against chapters without a
>>> chapter to participate, but it does require a steeper learning curve,
>> and
>>> some extra dedication.
>>>
>>
>> Well, as one example, we had some private correspondence about involvement
>> of Russia: The chapter failed to organize anything, mostly because they
>> failed to realize that the database they were pointed out to is workable,
>> they did not want or dis not manage to contact other people who understand
>> the subject, and there was no way for any other group of people to organize
>> the contest. As the result, I just had to fill up the (previously empty)
>> category "WLM 2011 in Russia" myself single-handedly, not obviously
>> expecting any credit for this, but just to avoid creating an impression
>> that there are no monuments in Russia.
>>
>> Also, if there was no group let us give a random example - in Macedonia -
>> who wanted to organize the contest, still it would be a good idea to open a
>> category for WLM in Macedonia, just to get a chance to indeed involve new
>> people and to possibly get a number of good quality image previously
>> missing. Especially if people would know this in advance and could take
>> pictures for instance during the summer holidays.
>>
>> Just to be understood correctly, I think WLM is in general a good idea,
>> and my criticism is not to undermine it is any way, but to possibly create
>> some input for the next time. (I am a WLM supporter and I uploaded so far I
>> believe about 1% of the total amount of images).
>>
>> Cheers
>> Yaroslav
>>
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