[Foundation-l] Show community consensus for Wikilove

Orionist orion.ist at gmail.com
Tue Nov 1 15:54:31 UTC 2011


>
> (just today I came across a nice example
>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jcb&oldid=59812254#A_barnstar_for_you.21
> - though I have no idea of the background of this message)


That was between two established Commons users, both of which are
administrators, and completely capable of sarcastically posting a template
without the help of Wikilove. Hence the example is irrelevant to this
conversation.

Regards,
--
Orionist



On Tue, Nov 1, 2011 at 4:18 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter <putevod at mccme.ru>wrote:

> On Tue, 1 Nov 2011 11:56:48 +0000, Fae <fae at wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
> >> Efficiency has never been a part of Wikipedia's mission
> >
> > That's a slightly odd interpretation,
> > <http://wikimediafoundation.org/wiki/Mission_statement> specifically
> > includes effective dissemination of content. Though the word
> > "effective" is quite different in meaning to "efficient", it would be
> > hard to imagine operational processes or practices being judged as an
> > effective use of donated funds if at the same time they blatantly
> > failed to be efficient.
> >
> > I may be missing the point, perhaps someone can provide a practical
> > counter-example?
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Fae
> >
> Since it all started from my message, by "efficiency" I meant "efficient
> creation of knowledge" which in my opinion can sometimes arise from
> interaction between the editors (when this collaboration is constructive)
> and sometimes may be deterred by the interaction when this interaction is
> destructive. I do not see any indication to the fact that Wikilove always
> enables constructive interaction (just today I came across a nice example
>
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User_talk:Jcb&oldid=59812254#A_barnstar_for_you.21
> - though I have no idea of the background of this message). I personally
> will opt-out of Wikilove at the receiving side as soon as the option is
> available. I am also not sure that the family-like model always enables
> constructive interactions, since some users prefer to treat some others as
> family members, and more others as aliens or enemies.
>
> Cheers
> Yaroslav
>
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