[Foundation-l] Article Feedback Tool 5 testing deployment

Thu Dec 22 16:49:55 UTC 2011

Actually, we're trying to avoid turning off AFT4. The reasoning is twofold.

On a product development front, the AFT5 presence is for testing purposes,
and for testing purposes only; it will be up for around 2-3 weeks so we can
build a decent picture of the quantity and quality of feedback we're
getting. While this process is going on, we want to maintain a pretty
coherent interface for the readers to avoid confusion - and AFT4 is much
closer to AFT5 than no form at all is.

On a data front, because the AFT5 presence is only for tests, and is only
temporary (at least at the moment) there's no question of AFT4 feedback
being ignored; the actual replacement of AFT4 with AFT5 on a wider scale is
still quite some time away, and until that happens, I hope any AFT4
feedback will be taken into account.

On 22 December 2011 14:06, Liam Wyatt <liamwyatt at gmail.com> wrote:

> Good-o. That's what I also understood your & Erik's emails to mean :-)
>
> So - with regards to my original question....?
> In summary it was:
> Now that the new versions (AFTv5) of the tool are being tested on 0.3% of
> en.wp, can you turn off the now-obsolete "5-star rating" version currently
> running on the remaining 99.7% of en.wp, please?
>
> -Liam
>
> Peace, love & metadata
>
> On 23/12/2011, at 0:11, Oliver Keyes <okeyes at wikimedia.org> wrote:
>
> > That's correct, Tom. 0.3 percent of the English language Wikipedia is
> being
> > used as a testbed for the *rest* of the English-language Wikipedia; a
> > tertiary testbed, since we've already run things through on both
> prototype
> > and labs :). Obviously if we decide "lets deploy to other projects" we'd
> > take localised concerns into account, and not just jump in. With the last
> > version, interestingly, we had several projects *request* that we switch
> it
> > on.
> >
> > On 22 December 2011 13:02, Tom Morris <tom at tommorris.org> wrote:
> >
> >> On Thu, Dec 22, 2011 at 02:56, Jussi-Ville Heiskanen
> >> <cimonavaro at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> Sorry, did a double-take there. Tell me I read that wrong, please! My
> >>> eyes must be deceiving me or my reading comprehension not being
> >>> quite up to the task right now... But some weird brainfart made me
> >>> read that in such a way that you were suggesting that the english
> >>> language wikipedia would be used as a test bed for what should be
> >>> deployed side-wide. Please tell me I am hallucinating, misreading
> >>> you grotesquely, or there is some other clear communication disconnect!
> >>>
> >>
> >> Site-wide means "on all of English" not "on all projects" (which would
> >> be "cross-wiki" or "cross-project"). Currently AFT5 is deployed on a
> >> subset of enwp articles (about 11,000) for testing. From what I can
> >> gather, there is a fairly long process of testing planned to see
> >> whether the deployment on English is an improvement on the existing
> >> AFT. After that process, if it is deemed to be an improvement and the
> >> objections have been fixed, then it is possible to offer it to other
> >> wikis.
> >>
> >> The small deployment on English will be used to inform the decision as
> >> to whether to roll it out fully on English, not on all projects.
> >>
> >> It's a fairly major change, so I think the Foundation are (correctly)
> >> being conservative in their rollout on English, and being careful to
> >> collect data to inform a community decision in the future. It's not
> >> suddenly going to turn up on projects other than enwiki without a lot
> >> more discussion and consultation.
> >>
> >> But then I've just been watching the process quietly from the
> >> sidelines: I may have got this all wrong.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Tom Morris
> >> <http://tommorris.org/>
> >>
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