[Foundation-l] [Internal-l] Regarding Berkman/Sciences Po study

Mon Dec 12 18:59:24 UTC 2011

Speaking off the record and in my personal capacity - fuckin' A. Thank you
for being the one sane voice :p

On Sunday, 11 December 2011, Renata St <renatawiki at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> The problem is that the research committee made only a token effort
>> at finding or following relevant onwiki policy or consensus , nor did
>> they try to explain or correct their actions onwiki in a timely manner
>> as per WIARM. Or where they did, they didn't follow up.
>>
>> Any of those 3 elements (Policy, Consensus, WIARM/BRD) each could and
>> still can help bring people up to speed and reduce misunderstandings.
>> That's part of what they're for, after all! I'm sure that people will be
>> more supportive once things are sorted out in that way.
>>
>> Hmm, the research committee still hasn't made any onwiki statement at a
>> relevant location that I can find. If this were a court case, RCom
>> would pretty much have lost by default and/or forfeit already.
>>
>
> As I said, analyze and nitpick things to death. Does any of that above *
> really* matter?
>
> It distresses me to see the community turned into this insane
> policy-enforcing power-hungry gang. Everything must be approved by us
> (consensus)! Everything must follow each letter and comma of every goddarn
> policy out there! If there is a single comma missing we will shred you to
> pieces, treat you like a scum and public enemy number 1, whack you with
all
> kinds of warnings, AN threads, blocks... Yeah, you go back to where you
> came from and stay there![1]
>
> Since when doing something nice and interesting on WP should be treated
and
> compared to going to a court? Why and when did the community started to
> think that compliance with WP:IDHCWTSF[2] is more important than
> intentions, than doing the "right thing", than embracing new, different
> ideas? Why does everything have to go through nine circles of bureaucracy?
>
> I weep for the memory of Wikipedia that was *free*. Yes, it is still free
> [as in $ and *©*], but it is no longer free of the instruction creep that
> stifles and regulates your every movement. I weep for the memory of a
> feeling that you *can* change, you *can* edit, you *can* do... without
that
> gripping fear that you are violating some random policy and therefore will
> be whacked on your head with some large stick.
>
> Renata
>
> [1] Exaggerated, yes, but isn't this the typical newbie experience these
> days?
> [2] Wikipedia:I don't have a clue what this stands for
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