[Foundation-l] Is a research banner "advertising" of the evil sort?

Fri Dec 9 15:00:41 UTC 2011

If you want to see the banner:
http://meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special:NoticeTemplate/view&template=HSB_final_2

And I, Béria Lima (nice to meet you) disabled the banner upon a thread in
Internal-l where people asked for it.
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On 9 December 2011 14:52, Bod Notbod <bodnotbod em gmail.com> wrote:

> On Fri, Dec 9, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Nathan <nawrich em gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I don't see the problem, myself. There's no product, service or
> > commercial interest being advertised. It's for users who are logged
> > in, not all readers. People who choose to participate actually receive
> > money, which can then be donated to the IRC or Wikimedia. Yet other
> > objections are based on privacy concerns (over being redirected to a
> > third party website)... Such concerns are so overblown,
>
> I haven't seen the banner and am not taking a position on it but some
> of your "objections to the objections" seem rather odd.
>
> 1. You say "it's for users who are logged in, not all readers". I am
> not going to take this to mean that you feel advertising McDonalds
> would be fine if it were a) only to logged in users and/or b) only
> displayed to some users. But it is possible to read it that way.
>
> 2. You say "users actually get money out of it" and, again, I will not
> take this as you saying that McDonalds could place ads on Wikipedia if
> they a) allowed users to click through activating a donation to
> Wikipedia and/or b) were given a small sum of money if they clicked on
> it... but, again, you rather leave yourself open to these
> interpretations.
>
> So, if you'd like to fight for the right for the banner to appear,
> fine. But the way you're positioning yourself on the issue seems
> rather flakey.
>
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